On Dec 30, 2006, at 4:37 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
However, if you add enough ethanol (or methanol) to raise the octane
sufficiently and control detonation, you end up with a distressingly
low power fuel. Thus, you consume more to go the same distance. There
are no easy answers.
Yes, but if
graywolf wrote:
On the other hand fried left over mashed potatoes are also pretty good
with breakfast.
In my mom's kitchen, last night's mashed potatoes are the starting point
for the potato pancakes. :-)
I also have taken to nuking a large potato for 3 minutes, then baking it
for 15-20
who was a goddess...
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If you were god free, you'd be Frey:-).
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I wouldn't reply to this normally, since I'm living in a God-Free
zone, ...
It's tough to be God-Free ... or not, depending upon your
predilections and beliefs.
I've been God-Free all my life and
consequences of utilitarianism.
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But a logical one...
Bob W wrote
William Robb wrote:
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Your freedom ends at the tip of my nose.
It is the theory that the anti smoking lobby has used to force the
discontinuance of smoking in public places.
And I agree with that 100
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Already been done. The argument worked very well to get rid of lead
from fuel.
A situation where politics and reality meet with less than optimal results.
By coincidence, my cousin, a fellow named
William Robb wrote:
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Already been done. The argument worked very well to get rid of lead
from fuel.
A situation where politics and reality meet with less than optimal results.
By coincidence, my
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But a logical one...
Bob W wrote:
if this is the basis of the Vulcan political system it is quite
clearly a fascist dictatorship.
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On 28/12/06, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed
Apparently Ethanol works almost as well and is somewhat less toxic,
however it's distressingly low tech.
William Robb wrote:
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Already been done. The argument worked very well to get rid of lead
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Apparently Ethanol works almost as well and is somewhat less toxic,
however it's distressingly low tech.
It can have a detrimental effect on some of the metals that were in the fuel
delivery systems
On 31/12/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It can have a detrimental effect on some of the metals that were in the fuel
delivery systems of the day.
Mainly due to the fact that ethanol is a hydrophile I believe?
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On 31/12/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It can have a detrimental effect on some of the metals that were in the fuel
delivery systems of the day.
Mainly due to the fact that ethanol is a hydrophile I believe?
I believe water is miscible in alcohol.
:
Apparently Ethanol works almost as well and is somewhat less toxic,
however it's distressingly low tech.
William Robb wrote:
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Already been done. The argument worked very well to get rid of lead
from fuel
On Dec 28, 2006, at 11:12 PM, David Savage wrote:
Touchy, touchy. I wasn't attacking your intelligence. Simply saying
that an education doesn't make you a smart person.
I never said that it did. Being educated has nothing to do with being
smart. It has everything to do with being trained in
On 29/12/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:
I work in a field where I come into contact with a lot of educated
people. While most of them are smart, there a also quite a few who
aren't, no matter what the piece of paper hanging on the wall
proclaims.
I work in a field.
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I work in a field.
With educated mud. :-)
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On 12/29/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was wondering when this thread might turn to the tobacco habits of
so many of our European friends. There are those among them who are
quick to criticize the vehicle habits of Americans but staunchly
defend their right to burn tobacco
There's virtually no difference in European and American
positions on tobacco.
g
Except that Europeans smoke in smaller, less polluting cars.
/g
...and the French in particular have nicer bars to do it in (for a
little while longer), and a certain Sartrian je m'en fous-tism in the
way
Another aspect is that tobacco is a cash crop. Just like cocaine,
opium, and cannabis it is intended solely for supporting a
nerve-system stimulating habit.. With the latter three, much effort
goes into encouraging farmers to produce other crops instead. That
would be nice for tobacco too.
Subject: Re: Doomsday is coming upon us?
I wasn't discussing your personal habits. I was discussing the
personal habits of the millions of cigarette smokers worldwide, many
of who reside in countries that are most critical of American habits
and practices. I'm not sure that the pollution
commitment, but not about your part of the deal.
Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
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It has a continuously variable transmission.
Paul
On Dec 29, 2006, at 12:47 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Dec 28, 2006, at 6:18 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
Only difference over a regular car would be some electronics, electric
motor, and batteries.
I'm not sure what you mean by this. Yes, it
On Dec 28, 2006, at 12:28 AM, William Robb wrote:
Using the Patriot Act was a cheap shot, but it is the cudgel of the
moment,
and we have our own version of it here, though I think it is in
front of our
Supreme Court at them moment deciding if it is consitutional or not.
If it's not
Godfrey,
I've met your car in person and think it is pretty neat.
The only think that I can imagine is exotic about it is the batteries.
I was just inquiring if you knew how exotic or not they were.
For the past 30 years, various incarnations of the electric car have
been discussed. The issue
This discussion is so silly.
My mother died from 2nd hand smoke.
She was never a smoker.
My father quit in his early thirties.
She spent the last years of her life with a big oxygen bottle at her side 24x7.
Bob S.
On 12/29/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 12/29/06, Paul Stenquist
On 12/28/06 4:04 PM, P. J. Alling, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If the arctic ice
is melting as fast as some seem to think, Polar Bears will be extinct
long before anything done to stop it takes effect.
Or they will change their behavior to adapt to the new conditions.
The arctic has been
On Dec 28, 2006, at 10:10 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote:
To put it simple (I like it simple). Smoking is plain stupidity.
There many reasons why it is stupid. My personal life span is one
example.
You have listed several others.
It is also an environmental problem. But not because of global
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I could do a simple study on my own
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On 12/29/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was wondering when this thread might turn to the tobacco habits of
so many of our European friends. There are those among them who are
quick to criticize the vehicle habits of Americans
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This discussion is so silly.
My mother died from 2nd hand smoke.
She was never a smoker.
My father quit in his early thirties.
She spent
about.
Before I start looking into it, what do you suggest?
Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
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Sorry about your mother, Bob S.
With all respect, what do you find silly about the discussion?
Jostein
On 12/29/06, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This discussion is so silly.
My mother died from 2nd hand smoke.
She was never a smoker.
My father quit in his early thirties.
She spent
On 12/29/06, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 28, 2006, at 10:10 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote:
To put it simple (I like it simple). Smoking is plain stupidity.
There many reasons why it is stupid. My personal life span is one
example.
You have listed several others.
It is also an
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On Dec 28, 2006, at 10:57 AM, Gonz wrote:
Some of the most pompous, dumbest, and most ill informed people I know
have a college education, some of them with advanced degrees. On the
flip side, some of the warmest, smartest people I know do not.
So go buy a
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That wholly depends on the person. A university degree won't make you
sexy.
Generally, it takes money to do that.
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On Dec 28, 2006, at 10:06 PM, David Savage wrote:
That wholly depends on the person. A university degree won't make
you sexy.
Of course. What do you think, educated people are stupid?
Some
On Dec 29, 2006, at 4:35 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
I've met your car in person and think it is pretty neat.
The only think that I can imagine is exotic about it is the batteries.
I was just inquiring if you knew how exotic or not they were.
The battery pack is essentially an assembly of
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From: Bob Shell
Subject: Re: Doomsday is coming upon us?
If none adapt, then it was their time to go as a species. Did anyone
mourn the extinction of cave bears in Europe? Most species that ever
existed are extinct now. The idea that we must preserve
.
On 12/28/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Agreed. That's why I smoke outside rain or cold. You could argue
that I
pollute the environment. That's true, but I don't think it is
significant
On Dec 29, 2006, at 7:49 AM, Gonz wrote:
Some of the most pompous, dumbest, and most ill informed people I
know
have a college education, some of them with advanced degrees. On
the
flip side, some of the warmest, smartest people I know do not.
So go buy a camera or lens designed by
What a fuckin' crock of shit. There is a big difference between a species
becoming extinct naturally and its extinction at the hand of man through
our contribution to climate change. I suppose it's OK for tigers to become
extinct through our predatory hunting practices. It's their time ... how
personally Bob, just what you said)
Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
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What a fuckin
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140. Wow, you must have studied a lot ;-)
Just enough to think I know more than I really do.
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Or just living where we do. I live in a relatively hot climate, so the
air conditioner runs quite a bit during the summer. The amount of crap
that gets burnt just to keep us cool is probably much more than I
Actually I was thinking of Bjoern Lomborg, although he isn't a founding
member (I had him conflated with Moore there).
-Adam
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From:
Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In this case, I am a bit suspicious. The
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
I just completed a round the USA trip in the Toyota Prius.
Actual fuel consumption averaged over the trip: 44.5 MPG (US Gallons
of course).
Total miles: 7,300
Average speeds: 70-85 mph on the highways, normal 20-40 mph in city
traffic.
My 2000 Civic EX gets an
I'm just picking on you Tim. Glad you're not offended.
Tom C.
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To put it simple
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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 23:29:16 -0600
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From: Tim Øsleby Subject: RE: Doomsday is coming upon us?
I could do a simple study on my own. Concentrate on Norway. There are
studies on the amount of CO2 from our car park. We also
I find this discussion silly because it is winding all over the place
and cannot be resolved. None of us want global warming or are in
favor of it. The scientific facts are still under review and
development. None of us can do very much at this moment to stop it.
And nobody has built the
I work in a field.
Yes I suppose on some days you are out standing in your field.
(Couldn't resist)
Kenneth Waller
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On 29/12/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:
I work
agree that's important.
Tom C.
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Yes, it is, but with 1/10 the toxic emissions output
I work in a field where I come into contact with a lot of educated
people. While most of them are smart, there a also quite a few who
aren't, no matter what the piece of paper hanging on the wall
proclaims.
I also have a lot to do with people who'd be considered uneducated,
boilermakers,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 29, 2006, at 7:49 AM, Gonz wrote:
Some of the most pompous, dumbest, and most ill informed people I
know
have a college education, some of them with advanced degrees. On
the
flip side, some of the warmest, smartest people I know do not.
So go buy a
Hey, did you guys hear about the car a guy made with laptop batteries?
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.08/tesla.html
rg2
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140. Wow, you must have studied a lot ;-)
Just enough to think I know more than I really do.
William Robb
Your Wisers' Whiskey joke was pretty intelligent, I gotta give you that...
:-)
Tom C
rg2 wrote:
Hey, did you guys hear about the car a guy made with laptop batteries?
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.08/tesla.html
Ah yes, the Tesla http://www.teslamotors.com/
Now, if Detroit would just embrace this kind of technology, we could
have a fully electric car that costs
On Dec 29, 2006, at 8:42 AM, Christian wrote:
My 2000 Civic EX gets an average of 35 MPG mixed driving (see
gridlocked
Washington, DC traffic, punctuated with brief bursts of 80mph). Pure
highway at an average of 70mph will see 40 MPG without an issue.
Certainly, Christian. That is not
responsible and 2) that
the real solution in the bigger picture is out of our hands.
Tom C.
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Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 11:03:07
consumed pollutants are
those used to spinup the flywheels, with zero tailpipe emissions.
Tom C.
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Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:32:51
On Dec 29, 2006, at 9:14 AM, Tom C wrote:
Well sure that is progress, but it's done somewhat at the expense
of comfort
and performance. While there's nothing wrong with either of those
To my senses, the Prius comfort (measured in ride quality, interior
noise, and support by the seat as it
On Dec 29, 2006, at 9:34 AM, Gonz wrote:
Your logic is flawed. Being able to dream up interesting things is
one thing. Being able to engineer and manufacture them is quite
another.
No, thats exactly what I meant. You don't need an engineering
degree to
engineer or design stuff. I
No, this is a common misconception. I knew nothing about it when I
first started looking into the Prius, but I've since found several
articles on how it works.
The Hybrid Synergy Drive system has a planetary gearbox coupling the
ICE and two electric drive motor/generators. There is no
I don't see how what I was willing to accept/afford for the 1981
Toyota Tercel has any bearing on an objective ranking in these
matters. Compared to that car, the Prius is a far more comfortable,
quieter, roomier car with much more performance.
On the 1/10 emissions, I agree that's important.
On 12/29/06, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I find this discussion silly because it is winding all over the place
and cannot be resolved. None of us want global warming or are in
favor of it. The scientific facts are still under review and
development. None of us can do very much at
On 29/12/06, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
Should we all move to more moderate parts of the earth? :)
He means England.
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On 29/12/06, Kenneth Waller, discombobulated, unleashed:
Yes I suppose on some days you are out standing in your field.
I aim to be. Cocky repartee aimed at newbies and tagalongs: 'Every frame
a Rembrandt (unless I drank too much last night, in which case think
Picasso)'
(Couldn't
On Dec 29, 2006, at 9:53 AM, Tom C wrote:
The sky is falling most definitely. My particular beliefs lead me
to believe 1) that we should individually be environmentally
responsible and 2) that the real solution in the bigger picture is
out of our hands.
My gosh, more agreement! On two
Maybe that's the silliest part. But anyway, any small actions we're
able to undertake may spur the next generation to do better, at least.
Even discussions like this one will at least heigthen the level of
conciousness.
Jostein
There you go. There's nothing wrong with talking about it. And
On Dec 29, 2006, at 10:42 AM, Tom C wrote:
I don't see how what I was willing to accept/afford for the 1981
Toyota Tercel has any bearing on an objective ranking in these
matters. Compared to that car, the Prius is a far more comfortable,
quieter, roomier car with much more performance.
On
Damn straight. There's nothing sexier than a smart, well-educated
person.
Godfrey
Of course. What do you think, educated people are stupid? Only
stupid, uneducated people think that having a piece of paper
automatically makes you think you're something special.
Godfrey
On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 12:49:23PM -0500, Christian wrote:
rg2 wrote:
Hey, did you guys hear about the car a guy made with laptop batteries?
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.08/tesla.html
Hear about it? I've seen it - the design studio is quite local.
Here's a (pretty bad) snapshot
Tom C wrote:
We'd get slaughtered on an ecology/global warming mailing list I'm sure.
They wouldn't notice; they're in the middle of a long OT discussion on
Pentax cameras.
Malcolm
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140. Wow, you must have studied a lot ;-)
Just enough to think I know more than I really do.
William Robb
Your Wisers' Whiskey joke was pretty intelligent, I gotta give you
Bob Sullivan wrote:
This discussion is so silly.
My mother died from 2nd hand smoke.
I'm of the opinion that the doctors call it that when they can't come up
with some other convenient and plausible cause.
She was never a smoker.
My mother died of complications of cirrhosis of the liver,
Malcolm Smith wrote:
Tom C wrote:
We'd get slaughtered on an ecology/global warming mailing list I'm sure.
They wouldn't notice; they're in the middle of a long OT discussion on
Pentax cameras.
Malcolm
Now THAT'S funny! LOL ROTFLMAO etc etc
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On Dec 29, 2006, at 11:55 AM, John Francis wrote:
On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 12:49:23PM -0500, Christian wrote:
rg2 wrote:
Hey, did you guys hear about the car a guy made with laptop
batteries?
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.08/tesla.html
Hear about it? I've seen it - the design
John Francis wrote:
Ah yes, the Tesla http://www.teslamotors.com/
Now, if Detroit would just embrace this kind of technology, we could
have a fully electric car that costs less than US$100k... Too bad they
are in so deep with Big Oil
Well, Detroit might not be interested, but Lotus are
On Dec 29, 2006, at 11:33 AM, Gonz wrote:
Damn straight. There's nothing sexier than a smart, well-educated
person.
Godfrey
Of course. What do you think, educated people are stupid? Only
stupid, uneducated people think that having a piece of paper
automatically makes you think you're
On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 03:14:16PM -0500, Christian wrote:
John Francis wrote:
Ah yes, the Tesla http://www.teslamotors.com/
Now, if Detroit would just embrace this kind of technology, we could
have a fully electric car that costs less than US$100k... Too bad they
are in so deep
Tom C wrote:
We'd get slaughtered on an ecology/global warming mailing list I'm sure.
They wouldn't notice; they're in the middle of a long OT discussion on
Pentax cameras.
Malcolm
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On 12/29/06, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I find this discussion silly because it is winding all over the place
and cannot be resolved. None of us want global warming or are in
favor of it. The scientific facts are still under review
They always say that to the many. The few have somewhat different rules
to go by.
Cotty wrote:
On 28/12/06, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed:
Hmm. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
Or the one ;-)
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On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 12:18:50PM -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Dec 29, 2006, at 11:55 AM, John Francis wrote:
Well, Detroit might not be interested, but Lotus are - they seem
to be planning to market the Tesla.
Getting quite close to release too. I've seen two of them, marked as
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Very well put Jostein.
Add like to throw in a thought or two. The two main problems is transport
and heating/cooling.
We have all noticed that Godfrey has bought himself a fancy new
environmental car. By doing this he contributes directly. This has started a
Your filter has been turned back on. I thought you had improved, but it
appears you were only away for awhile. Congratulations, you are still
the most self-centered person on the list. You make the rest of us glad
that we are not perfect like you.
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
On Dec 28, 2006, at
if this is the basis of the Vulcan political system it is quite
clearly a fascist dictatorship.
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On 28/12/06, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed:
Hmm. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
Or the one ;-)
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You kind of left out the part about my passing the GED cold, the 10 or
20 tech certificates I have obtained, and the fact I have the equivalent
of a BSEE. I do have some college but there are too many people like you
for me to be comfortable there. However, I am proud of walking out of
school
This is getting a little too personal for my comfort, guys. Stop
attacking each other on such a low level. If you're both so
intelligent, put that to work in your arguments. Otherwise, take it
off-list.
Mike
On 12/29/06, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You kind of left out the part about
graywolf wrote:
You kind of left out the part about my passing the GED cold, the 10 or
20 tech certificates I have obtained, and the fact I have the equivalent
of a BSEE. I do have some college but there are too many people like you
for me to be comfortable there. However, I am proud of
That's it, Tom. I do not care that you're filtering me, or about your
opinion of me. Continue with the insults: you do it poorly but at
least you are able to perform some function as a list clown that way.
Your opinions on environmental science are without merit or
credibility, and you
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Very well put Jostein.
Add like to throw in a thought or two. The two main problems is transport
and heating/cooling.
We have all noticed that Godfrey has bought himself a fancy new
environmental car. By doing this he
On Dec 29, 2006, at 10:29 AM, William Robb wrote:
The idea that we have the right to drive species to extinction is
criminal.
I agree. It would be criminal if we were doing it. I don't for a
moment believe that humanity has anything to do with breakup of pack
ice in the arctic. There
On Dec 29, 2006, at 11:07 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
What a fuckin' crock of shit. There is a big difference between a
species
becoming extinct naturally and its extinction at the hand of man
through
our contribution to climate change. I suppose it's OK for tigers
to become
extinct
On Dec 29, 2006, at 10:38 AM, Scott Loveless wrote:
How about the nicotine used in organic gardening? g
http://www.coopext.colostate.edu/4DMG/VegFruit/organic.htm
Nicotine is a potent neurotoxin. Growing any plant that contains
nicotine should be outlawed forthwith!!
Possession of more
- Original Message -
From: Jostein Øksne Subject: Re: Doomsday is coming upon us?
If you live in a place that needs heating parts of the year, install a
heat pump and reconsider the house insulation. Reduce heating at the
times of day when nobody's home anyway.
Next time you buy
Subject: Re: Doomsday is coming upon us?
If none adapt, then it was their time to go as a species. Did anyone
mourn the extinction of cave bears in Europe? Most species that ever
existed are extinct now. The idea that we must preserve each and
every living species is pretty silly
I believe that global warming is voodoo science of the
worst kind.
do you just believe that, or do you have evidence?
--
Bob
I think you misunderstand me. I'm saying that if polar bears go
extinct due to natural climate cycles, then it was their time
to go.
I believe that
YAWN...
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Oh, wow, a my car is better than your car thread!
Well my '86 Ford Escort Diesel got 45mpg combined (when I was driving
it, on 40 when my wife was) and normally 55+ on the expressway. Once I
busted 65mpg from New Mexico to Indiana (but note that is mostly down
hill). Unfortunately it was
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