Re: Kruger 27/12/2013
There are always several old bulls in the area. Most likely died of natural causes. Parks Board probably took the tusks. There must have been quite an orgy a couple of days ago when it died. I'm sure a large croc could take a young elephant I have seen photos of elephants with the end of their trunks bitten off. Mind you, a 6m brute like this one from the Zambezi might be able to do the job: http://weheartit.com/entry/90965125/search?context_type=searchcontext_user=davidsaltipage=2query=crocodile I agree, one does tend to get a bit blasè after a while. You have to look beyond the obvious to stay interested. Most people don't even notice the small stuff. Alan C Original Message- From: Bob W Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 9:57 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: GESO: Kruger 27/12/2013 That must have been a sight to see. I wonder how the elephant died. Too old to defend itself? Can crocs take a healthy elephant? Your comments about the turtles remind me of my South African hosts when I was there. Getting all excited about seeing giraffes, and elephants and buffalo and lions, they just went meh!, but got themselves all excited about dung beetles. B On 27 Dec 2013, at 19:33, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote: Had a relaxing day in the Park today but unfortunately it was a rainy, grey day - not the best for photography - only 2 shots worth sharing. Firstly, an elephant carcass on a Letaba River bank with 7 gorged 2-3m crocs in attendance. The vultures have already been judging from the excrement on the hide. A pair of Plovers picking up scraps too. Rather far away. Secondly, a tortoise drinking from a small puddle on the road. Have never seen that before. This one is about 9 long. We saw at least 10, the largest about a foot long. http://www.flickr.com/photos/87994495@N06/sets/72157639082628226 Alan C --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: For Cotty!!!
On 27/12/13, CollinB, discombobulated, unleashed: http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/ele/4238293683.html Wretched things -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: most photographed places in the world
I interpret this handy heatmap as where _not_ to go ... http://www.sightsmap.com/ -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Peso - Happy New Year!
ashley explains why I have barely been commenting in the last week or so.. I'll come back later - maybe not til next year http://annsan.smugmug.com/The-KItty-Corner/Ashley-ultimate-alpha-tabby/2526444_dnhbv8/1/2992726225_R2CsNsn/Medium ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)
Hello all, I don't post here much anymore, but I decided to ask this because I see a lot of the old names and the pdml has always been an awesome group of people. As some of you might know, I've shot with Pentax all my photographic life. Starting with an ME-Super, going through PZ-1, MX (I still have two black ones!), ZX-n, istD, K10D, to my current ones, a K5 and a K-01 I bought because it was a really cheap way to put a sensor behind my lenses. I love the quality and ergonomics of my Pentax cameras. After all these years, I obviously have a nice set of lenses. I am currently traveling in South America long term, so I have a subset of those with me: 12-24 zoom, 21 Limited, FA28/2.8, FA35/2, FA50/1.7, 17-70 zoom. The first three are my most used ones right now. I also shoot a lot with a Leica M8 and either a 28 or 35mm lens on it. Now the time has came to renew my DSLR. Obviously, an option that is up there is a K3. It seems like a camera I'd love, and given that it's a Pentax, I can just use it without waiting for my fingers to learn where the controls are. BUT. I've missed having full frame all this time. I would love to go back to shooting mostly with a 50mm, because of its shallow depth of field. I would love to have a big viewfinder, and fast AF wouldn't hurt. Every time I pick up a Canon, it makes me sad how fast the AF is. Even way older models, like an original 5D, focuses way faster with a 50/1.8 than my K5 with a 50/1.7 or 35/2. So I am now trying to make this decision: get a K3, along with a 20-40 (that zoom looks great for photos in the street!), or get a 60D ($1300 at KEH), with a 50/1.8 and possibly a 28/1.8? If I get a Canon, I have lenses available through my girlfriend: a 17-40/4 and a 24-105/4, so I would immediately have a complete kit. The money spent would be about the same. One option means staying with a brand I know and love. The other means getting full frame and state of the art AF, no more little screws on my lenses. I feel like if I get the 60D I will miss Pentax tremendously. And if I get the K3 I will love it, and in three months I will be wishing for a full frame K mount. What says the PDML? It seems like the only good thing about Pentax not releasing a FF camera is that Cotty's hat is still intact, no? j -- Juan Buhler - http://www.jbuhler.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)
All I can say is that the K-3 image quality is terrific. I suspect it would equal the 60D, although the sensor wouldn't be as large. (Both cameras shoot a full frame:-). The autofocus of the K-3 is much improved over the K-5, but I don't know that it's the equal of Canon. Paul On Dec 28, 2013, at 11:48 AM, Juan Buhler juanbuh...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I don't post here much anymore, but I decided to ask this because I see a lot of the old names and the pdml has always been an awesome group of people. As some of you might know, I've shot with Pentax all my photographic life. Starting with an ME-Super, going through PZ-1, MX (I still have two black ones!), ZX-n, istD, K10D, to my current ones, a K5 and a K-01 I bought because it was a really cheap way to put a sensor behind my lenses. I love the quality and ergonomics of my Pentax cameras. After all these years, I obviously have a nice set of lenses. I am currently traveling in South America long term, so I have a subset of those with me: 12-24 zoom, 21 Limited, FA28/2.8, FA35/2, FA50/1.7, 17-70 zoom. The first three are my most used ones right now. I also shoot a lot with a Leica M8 and either a 28 or 35mm lens on it. Now the time has came to renew my DSLR. Obviously, an option that is up there is a K3. It seems like a camera I'd love, and given that it's a Pentax, I can just use it without waiting for my fingers to learn where the controls are. BUT. I've missed having full frame all this time. I would love to go back to shooting mostly with a 50mm, because of its shallow depth of field. I would love to have a big viewfinder, and fast AF wouldn't hurt. Every time I pick up a Canon, it makes me sad how fast the AF is. Even way older models, like an original 5D, focuses way faster with a 50/1.8 than my K5 with a 50/1.7 or 35/2. So I am now trying to make this decision: get a K3, along with a 20-40 (that zoom looks great for photos in the street!), or get a 60D ($1300 at KEH), with a 50/1.8 and possibly a 28/1.8? If I get a Canon, I have lenses available through my girlfriend: a 17-40/4 and a 24-105/4, so I would immediately have a complete kit. The money spent would be about the same. One option means staying with a brand I know and love. The other means getting full frame and state of the art AF, no more little screws on my lenses. I feel like if I get the 60D I will miss Pentax tremendously. And if I get the K3 I will love it, and in three months I will be wishing for a full frame K mount. What says the PDML? It seems like the only good thing about Pentax not releasing a FF camera is that Cotty's hat is still intact, no? j -- Juan Buhler - http://www.jbuhler.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)
Juan - I have been enjoying the adventures of Milo and envy you your trip. With each photo you posted I played a bit of a guessing game: Did he shoot this one with Leica or Pentax? I never found any defining characteristic in the subjects or in the rendering which gave a clue as to which one you used... I don't know Canon, so I can't speak to your alternatives on the dark side. I do have the K-3 and 20-40. Very quiet in operation, very comfortable, straightforward to use, good results... If you go this route, you may still lust for a 35mm-sized sensor, but you won't otherwise be disappointed with your choice. stan On Dec 28, 2013, at 11:48 AM, Juan Buhler wrote: Hello all, I don't post here much anymore, but I decided to ask this because I see a lot of the old names and the pdml has always been an awesome group of people. As some of you might know, I've shot with Pentax all my photographic life. Starting with an ME-Super, going through PZ-1, MX (I still have two black ones!), ZX-n, istD, K10D, to my current ones, a K5 and a K-01 I bought because it was a really cheap way to put a sensor behind my lenses. I love the quality and ergonomics of my Pentax cameras. After all these years, I obviously have a nice set of lenses. I am currently traveling in South America long term, so I have a subset of those with me: 12-24 zoom, 21 Limited, FA28/2.8, FA35/2, FA50/1.7, 17-70 zoom. The first three are my most used ones right now. I also shoot a lot with a Leica M8 and either a 28 or 35mm lens on it. Now the time has came to renew my DSLR. Obviously, an option that is up there is a K3. It seems like a camera I'd love, and given that it's a Pentax, I can just use it without waiting for my fingers to learn where the controls are. BUT. I've missed having full frame all this time. I would love to go back to shooting mostly with a 50mm, because of its shallow depth of field. I would love to have a big viewfinder, and fast AF wouldn't hurt. Every time I pick up a Canon, it makes me sad how fast the AF is. Even way older models, like an original 5D, focuses way faster with a 50/1.8 than my K5 with a 50/1.7 or 35/2. So I am now trying to make this decision: get a K3, along with a 20-40 (that zoom looks great for photos in the street!), or get a 60D ($1300 at KEH), with a 50/1.8 and possibly a 28/1.8? If I get a Canon, I have lenses available through my girlfriend: a 17-40/4 and a 24-105/4, so I would immediately have a complete kit. The money spent would be about the same. One option means staying with a brand I know and love. The other means getting full frame and state of the art AF, no more little screws on my lenses. I feel like if I get the 60D I will miss Pentax tremendously. And if I get the K3 I will love it, and in three months I will be wishing for a full frame K mount. What says the PDML? It seems like the only good thing about Pentax not releasing a FF camera is that Cotty's hat is still intact, no? j -- Juan Buhler - http://www.jbuhler.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)
Juan - just buy the K-3 - clearly your pro-con list is leaning that way :-) gotta keep having your photos in the PDML Annual.. ann - (who diverted to the dark-side briefly and came back to the fold.) On 12/28/2013 11:48, Juan Buhler wrote: Hello all, I don't post here much anymore, but I decided to ask this because I see a lot of the old names and the pdml has always been an awesome group of people. As some of you might know, I've shot with Pentax all my photographic life. Starting with an ME-Super, going through PZ-1, MX (I still have two black ones!), ZX-n, istD, K10D, to my current ones, a K5 and a K-01 I bought because it was a really cheap way to put a sensor behind my lenses. I love the quality and ergonomics of my Pentax cameras. After all these years, I obviously have a nice set of lenses. I am currently traveling in South America long term, so I have a subset of those with me: 12-24 zoom, 21 Limited, FA28/2.8, FA35/2, FA50/1.7, 17-70 zoom. The first three are my most used ones right now. I also shoot a lot with a Leica M8 and either a 28 or 35mm lens on it. Now the time has came to renew my DSLR. Obviously, an option that is up there is a K3. It seems like a camera I'd love, and given that it's a Pentax, I can just use it without waiting for my fingers to learn where the controls are. BUT. I've missed having full frame all this time. I would love to go back to shooting mostly with a 50mm, because of its shallow depth of field. I would love to have a big viewfinder, and fast AF wouldn't hurt. Every time I pick up a Canon, it makes me sad how fast the AF is. Even way older models, like an original 5D, focuses way faster with a 50/1.8 than my K5 with a 50/1.7 or 35/2. So I am now trying to make this decision: get a K3, along with a 20-40 (that zoom looks great for photos in the street!), or get a 60D ($1300 at KEH), with a 50/1.8 and possibly a 28/1.8? If I get a Canon, I have lenses available through my girlfriend: a 17-40/4 and a 24-105/4, so I would immediately have a complete kit. The money spent would be about the same. One option means staying with a brand I know and love. The other means getting full frame and state of the art AF, no more little screws on my lenses. I feel like if I get the 60D I will miss Pentax tremendously. And if I get the K3 I will love it, and in three months I will be wishing for a full frame K mount. What says the PDML? It seems like the only good thing about Pentax not releasing a FF camera is that Cotty's hat is still intact, no? j -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso - Happy New Year!
I often have that same look of wilting dismay. My wife stroking me helps. Jack - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 8:03 AM Subject: Peso - Happy New Year! ashley explains why I have barely been commenting in the last week or so.. I'll come back later - maybe not til next year http://annsan.smugmug.com/The-KItty-Corner/Ashley-ultimate-alpha-tabby/2526444_dnhbv8/1/2992726225_R2CsNsn/Medium ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Happy Isaac Newton's birthday... and herre's the 2013 PDML Quotations List!
Nice quote list. With the exception that I am not on it. I guess I have to hang around more to be quoted . WTG, Ann, some good ones. Marnie aka Doe ;-) In a message dated 12/25/2013 8:08:44 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, postmas...@robertstech.com writes: http://www.robertstech.com/quote.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, and a Salubrious Solstice!
Very nice, like it. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 12/23/2013 7:45:53 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, rwomer1...@yahoo.com writes: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17629071 or http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17629071-lg.jpg (K-5, FA 28/2.8) Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)
The Canon 24/105 is a great lens. Just saying... Marnie aka Doe :-) Actually so is the 17-40, I believe. In a message dated 12/28/2013 8:48:46 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, juanbuh...@gmail.com writes: Hello all, I don't post here much anymore, but I decided to ask this because I see a lot of the old names and the pdml has always been an awesome group of people. As some of you might know, I've shot with Pentax all my photographic life. Starting with an ME-Super, going through PZ-1, MX (I still have two black ones!), ZX-n, istD, K10D, to my current ones, a K5 and a K-01 I bought because it was a really cheap way to put a sensor behind my lenses. I love the quality and ergonomics of my Pentax cameras. After all these years, I obviously have a nice set of lenses. I am currently traveling in South America long term, so I have a subset of those with me: 12-24 zoom, 21 Limited, FA28/2.8, FA35/2, FA50/1.7, 17-70 zoom. The first three are my most used ones right now. I also shoot a lot with a Leica M8 and either a 28 or 35mm lens on it. Now the time has came to renew my DSLR. Obviously, an option that is up there is a K3. It seems like a camera I'd love, and given that it's a Pentax, I can just use it without waiting for my fingers to learn where the controls are. BUT. I've missed having full frame all this time. I would love to go back to shooting mostly with a 50mm, because of its shallow depth of field. I would love to have a big viewfinder, and fast AF wouldn't hurt. Every time I pick up a Canon, it makes me sad how fast the AF is. Even way older models, like an original 5D, focuses way faster with a 50/1.8 than my K5 with a 50/1.7 or 35/2. So I am now trying to make this decision: get a K3, along with a 20-40 (that zoom looks great for photos in the street!), or get a 60D ($1300 at KEH), with a 50/1.8 and possibly a 28/1.8? If I get a Canon, I have lenses available through my girlfriend: a 17-40/4 and a 24-105/4, so I would immediately have a complete kit. The money spent would be about the same. One option means staying with a brand I know and love. The other means getting full frame and state of the art AF, no more little screws on my lenses. I feel like if I get the 60D I will miss Pentax tremendously. And if I get the K3 I will love it, and in three months I will be wishing for a full frame K mount. What says the PDML? It seems like the only good thing about Pentax not releasing a FF camera is that Cotty's hat is still intact, no? j -- Juan Buhler - http://www.jbuhler.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: most photographed places in the world
One of the hotspots is Versailles, from which I have just returned. Photos to follow, whether the place is over-photoed or not. Jostein gave us an example recently of how to go to a place that's been photographed to death, and still come back with something good. I don't claim to have done the same, but I did try. B -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker Sent: 28 December 2013 14:58 To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List Subject: OT: most photographed places in the world I interpret this handy heatmap as where _not_ to go ... http://www.sightsmap.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Christmas in Versailles
I spent Christmas week in Versailles, and had a very enjoyable time. I'm no Atget, and here are some photos to prove it: http://www.web-options.com/V2013/ B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Las Vegas Photo Spots?
Anyone been to Las Vegas in recent memory? Know any good photo spots, in town, or out? Going with a friend in about a week (big electronic show), and haven't been there since I was about 15. I am not a gambler. I will visit the show for a while, but it's not really my thing. Googling I have found: Valley of Fire (red rock formations, 1 hour north), Goodsprings (ghost town, 30 minutes south), and in Las Vegas itself: a mock Venetian street with water and gondolas, a mock Eiffel tower, a mock Sphinx, and a neon sign boneyard (junk yard of old Las Vegas signs). Sometimes people on this list know where to shoot. Anything I've missed? Or shouldn't miss? Thanks in advance, Marnie aka Doe :-) Probably no one on this list has been there at all recently. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Old Lace
Very nice. The remaining lace in the window lifts it above the ordinary. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 12/26/2013 12:21:19 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, apathy...@lyons-ryan.org writes: From Nevada City, Montana. http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP3711-K5-1peso.htm l http://tinyurl.com/lyjqz5q -- Cheers Brian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Las Vegas Photo Spots?
Have noticed a few photogs, over the years, doing street/marquee shooting. Jack - Original Message - From: eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 10:09 AM Subject: Las Vegas Photo Spots? Anyone been to Las Vegas in recent memory? Know any good photo spots, in town, or out? Going with a friend in about a week (big electronic show), and haven't been there since I was about 15. I am not a gambler. I will visit the show for a while, but it's not really my thing. Googling I have found: Valley of Fire (red rock formations, 1 hour north), Goodsprings (ghost town, 30 minutes south), and in Las Vegas itself: a mock Venetian street with water and gondolas, a mock Eiffel tower, a mock Sphinx, and a neon sign boneyard (junk yard of old Las Vegas signs). Sometimes people on this list know where to shoot. Anything I've missed? Or shouldn't miss? Thanks in advance, Marnie aka Doe :-) Probably no one on this list has been there at all recently. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Christmas Wonder
Very good portrait, like the softness, but not too soft. Except it looks like his nose is running, poor guy. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 12/25/2013 4:50:34 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, ldott...@gmail.com writes: Hi all! First of all, I hope everyone is having a great Christmas Day along with any other holiday you may be observing. Next, I wanted to share this photo of my great-nephew I took earlier today. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/11556218463/ K-5, F 50/1.7, f/2.8, ISO 100, 1/180, shoe-mounted flash Comments are, as always, welcome. Happy holidays! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Las Vegas Photo Spots?
I thought I'd do one night of night photography, try it out. I still haven't done that much, and there will be PLENTY of lit signs to play with. Heh. Marnie In a message dated 12/28/2013 10:14:52 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, jdavi...@yahoo.com writes: Have noticed a few photogs, over the years, doing street/marquee shooting. Jack - Original Message - From: eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 10:09 AM Subject: Las Vegas Photo Spots? Anyone been to Las Vegas in recent memory? Know any good photo spots, in town, or out? Going with a friend in about a week (big electronic show), and haven't been there since I was about 15. I am not a gambler. I will visit the show for a while, but it's not really my thing. Googling I have found: Valley of Fire (red rock formations, 1 hour north), Goodsprings (ghost town, 30 minutes south), and in Las Vegas itself: a mock Venetian street with water and gondolas, a mock Eiffel tower, a mock Sphinx, and a neon sign boneyard (junk yard of old Las Vegas signs). Sometimes people on this list know where to shoot. Anything I've missed? Or shouldn't miss? Thanks in advance, Marnie aka Doe :-) Probably no one on this list has been there at all recently. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: More grunge (letter box this time)
This from two years ago. In a village near Cotty's place: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7dc01428.jpg -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: most photographed places in the world
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 09:58:30AM -0500, Bruce Walker wrote: I interpret this handy heatmap as where _not_ to go ... http://www.sightsmap.com/ Hmm. It appears that the most photographed scene in San Jose is the sign outside the main eBay building. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 02:48:00PM -0200, Juan Buhler wrote: Now the time has came to renew my DSLR. Obviously, an option that is up there is a K3. It seems like a camera I'd love, and given that it's a Pentax, I can just use it without waiting for my fingers to learn where the controls are. Fingers are generally pretty good at learning new things, even if it takes a week or so of fumbling at first. BUT. I've missed having full frame all this time. I would love to go back to shooting mostly with a 50mm, because of its shallow depth of field. I would love to have a big viewfinder, and fast AF wouldn't hurt. Every time I pick up a Canon, it makes me sad how fast the AF is. Even way older models, like an original 5D, focuses way faster with a 50/1.8 than my K5 with a 50/1.7 or 35/2. But do they focus accurately that quickly? So I am now trying to make this decision: get a K3, along with a 20-40 (that zoom looks great for photos in the street!), or get a 60D ($1300 at KEH), with a 50/1.8 and possibly a 28/1.8? If I get a Canon, I have lenses available through my girlfriend: a 17-40/4 and a 24-105/4, so I would immediately have a complete kit. Or, you could offer your girlfriend half the cost of the 60D, as long as you get access to it. That way you have access to full frame, and get to see how well it really works, plush she gets to carry the heavy kit. The money spent would be about the same. One option means staying with a brand I know and love. The other means getting full frame and state of the art AF, no more little screws on my lenses. I feel like if I get the 60D I will miss Pentax tremendously. And if I get the K3 I will love it, and in three months I will be wishing for a full frame K mount. My hunch is that if you get the K3, in three months you'll be wishing you had the money for the full frame K mount. What says the PDML? It seems like the only good thing about Pentax not releasing a FF camera is that Cotty's hat is still intact, no? It seems to me that debating K3 or full frame is kind of like debating Corvette or Ferrari. There are differences in performance, but I don't know how often they'll have an effect in day to day use. I think that we are also starting to see the effects that Ricoh is having on Pentax. There are people on this list that know more about marketing than I do, and perhaps they could answer what would be the ideal timing on releasing a high end APS and a high end full frame. If you release them at the same time, you only get one publicity bump. If you release the full frame first then people who buy the full frame won't buy the APS, however there are certain people that will always buy the top of the line body when it is available. However, even they might take pause at dropping $2K+ on a full frame body only a few weeks after dropping $1,300 on a K3. Also, when the full frame comes out, the K-3 will no longer be the best Pentax body on the market, and will lose sales value. So, even barring engineering challenges, I don't think that they'd release the full frame until prices start to drop on the K-3. The other question is, would they announce it at a big show? Or would they avoid that period and announce it during an otherwise quiet photo news period, so that they are not competing with other announcements? I'd be inclined to wait until at least a short while after whatever would be the best time, from a marketing point of view, to announce a full frame, to make any Pentax buying decisions that have a long term financial impact. If you were to buy the 60D, would you keep your Pentax gear? If you were to buy it, and in four months Pentax announces a full frame, could you sell it to your girlfriend to finance the Pentax upgrade? Is there anyplace that you could rent the 60D for a week or two and see if you really like it? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Christmas in Versailles
On 28/12/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: I spent Christmas week in Versailles, and had a very enjoyable time. I'm no Atget, and here are some photos to prove it: http://www.web-options.com/V2013/ Enjoyed looking at those, thanks for posting! Love this one: http://www.web-options.com/V2013/content/P0270734_large.html I hope you were pricing up some retirement flats! ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)
Few random idea, Juan, if I may. 1. Canon 60D is not a full frame camera. The Canon 6D however is. 2. You can buy a bundle of 6D plus 24-105/4L relatively cheap. Further it stands to reason that currently there're further discounts. 3. I would suggest you double check whether you could adapt your Pentax lenses to Canon camera in reversible manner. 4. I don't think you should consider a *possibility* of Pentax introducing a full frame camera *in the future*. You, if I understand you correctly, want to renew your camera here and now. So I think the strategy would be simple. Someplace along your travel route there ought to be a shop where you could actually hold/look into viewfinder/take few shots of a sample unit of both Canon 6D and Pentax K3. So instead of asking us - you will see for yourself. You know what - may be, just may be, instead of buying a new DSLR you could buy a new lens for your Leica M8. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 1st composite
My reaction is... it's not entirely successful. Left side is too large in proportion to the right. A mix of even more photos might be better. But that is MY reaction. I used to do a lot of collages back when too. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 12/27/2013 10:09:11 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, christ...@caguila.com writes: http://www.caguila.com/1stcomp/content/first_composit_large.html Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 1st composite
You have both a style and a taste, Christine. On 12/28/2013 8:08 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: Despite having only Photoshop Elements 11, I purchased Larry’s book suggestion Photoshop for Lightroom Users in the ebook format. Turns out one can do a bit of compositing in PS Elements, and I had my first go at it today. I’ve always loved collage and such and have done a bit of textile collage. I hope to do some more of this photo compositing in the coming year. Two different parts of the Chicago River. The part with the boat was taken from the north Michigan Ave Bridge facing west. The frame on the left side was taken from the 15th floor of the Holiday Inn behind the Merchandise Mart. The first bridge is on Randolph Street Nothing very grand, but it was fun to learn something new! And I even made a print—now that I’m able to do so :-)! http://www.caguila.com/1stcomp/content/first_composit_large.html Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: most photographed places in the world
-Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Francis Sent: 28 December 2013 18:25 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: most photographed places in the world On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 09:58:30AM -0500, Bruce Walker wrote: I interpret this handy heatmap as where _not_ to go ... http://www.sightsmap.com/ Hmm. It appears that the most photographed scene in San Jose is the sign outside the main eBay building. the Streetview vans are in a recursive dive with no exit. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Christmas in Versailles
I always love your galleries, Bob, and this is no exception. Lovely. Liked too many to pick some out, but did notice especially the BW of the various levels of buildings, the statue head (male), the reflecting ponds (two), and the draped statues. But also some good long distant shots of the area exterior and interior. The covered statues are very surreal and sort of spooky. Took me a moment, on the first one, to figure out what the heck they were. Heh. Envious (re trip). Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 12/28/2013 10:06:21 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, p...@web-options.com writes: I spent Christmas week in Versailles, and had a very enjoyable time. I'm no Atget, and here are some photos to prove it: http://www.web-options.com/V2013/ B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Beaumaris Pier (at night)
The only other photograph of our trip to North Wales worth sharing. A view towards the mainland (and the snow-capped mountains) at twilight. Could've done with a lonely figure walking through, but decided that was too cliched !! http://cottycam.posthaven.com/beaumaris-pier-anglesey-2013 -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2013 - 200 - GDG
Nice. Like the light. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 12/11/2013 7:17:03 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, godfreydigio...@me.com writes: By the latter part of Saturday's walk, the threat of rain had disappeared, clouds blown to the east and north, and the sun came out. The chill remained, however, and the light had that glinty, harsh severity of winter in it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/11290838255/ Thanks for looking. Comments always appreciated. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Upcoming UK Trip
OK, so Lisa and I have pretty much solidified our travel plans for our upcoming trip. We'll be arriving in London on the 11th of January (Saturday) and staying in London for the week (I talked Lisa out of going to Cambridge). We have theatre tickets for Tuesday and Thursday evenings (although the Tuesday show is contingent on the Apollo Theatre being re-opened by then as they have stated). We're doing a day trip to Oxford on Wednesday, largely so Lisa can see the Bodlian Library's exhibit on 800 years of medical history in Oxford. Considering that return trains to London run fairly late, perhaps we can connect with Cotty and company? For the rest of the time in London we're planning on seeing the Wildlife Photographer of the Year exhibit at the Natural History Museum and the Astronomy Photographer of the Year exhibit in Greenwich (Bob Walkden territory fancy a pint somewhere in the neighborhood?) We've got plenty of other items on the itinerary but they're all pretty flexible, so if any UK PDML people can come down we'd love to meet up. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Happy Isaac Newton's birthday... and herre's the 2013 PDML Quotations List!
On 25/12/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: My 2013 resolution was to be as unquotable as possible, so it looked as though I had a life. Mission accomplished. I once had a life where I wasn't envious of anything - then I took up photography. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: questions about the 20-40
Zos, my reply interspersed. I also took the liberty and used * symbols to outline some things that kind of jumped to my eyes. On 12/27/2013 8:00 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: Let's see. As a walk around lens this is ideal. Compared to the DA*16-50 its: Smaller Lighter Slower Less Range Both have WR. I wonder how come the lens that is slower and has less range is ideal walk around?! You see, I have about 5,000 images in my collection shot with DA* 16-50/2.8. It is a very good lens. I did not like its double cam barrel design and wasn't very appreciative of not knowing whether the SDM motor would quit on me. Also I did not like the sharpness towards the corner at wider zoom settings. However, when it would hit, it would hit it big. Further, for walk around, I would rather agree to lose on the long end of the zoom range rather than on the wide one. Its f2.8 on its wide end and f4 at 40mm. From the samples I saw it rendered very nicely. Much better than the 16-50. Out of focus areas and the roll off are rather smooth and pleasing. I don't know what minimum focus is, but I suspect its closer than the 16-50. I also have a feeling this lens would look really nice on some extension tubes. This looks like nearly a stack of primes and could replace having a 21ltd, 35ltd, 40ltd with one lens. For a zoom like this, I rarely shoot wide open, but it does look very usable there. That's right. All these limited lenses are rather slow, so it would be only natural to replace them with another slow zoom lens of similar range. Re the three limited lenses you mentioned: 1. 21/3.2 - well, better close it to 4.0 or even 5.6 to get optimal sharpness. 2. 40/2.8 - the OOF rendering is not to my liking from what I've seen on the net. 3. 35/2.8 - this one looks particularly limited to me. What would be the use of a macro lens if at maximal magnification the distance between the front element of the lens and the subject would be how much? Few centimeters?! Good for inanimate subjects or reproduction. And slow like a zoom lens... So indeed, it would seem that new DA Limited zoom is preferable to these three. Beside macro capabilities of 35/2.8 - one would seem to be only gaining. *Compared to the Sigma 18-35*, it has a slightly different range and is much slower. I think they are both pretty sharp lenses, but I bet the limited resolves more. The sigma is also HUGE, lacks SMC/HD coating, and *doesn't say pentax on the barrel*. I know that if I wanted to shoot some street, I'd want the much smaller lens. I only wish it were say 16-40. The extra width would come in handy, but other than that this covers a range that is very useful, at least for landscape and outdoors shooters. I think it is way too expensive, but I have to admit that I really want one and a 15 and 70 to go along with it. The fact that average banana weighs approximately like an average apple which in turn weighs somewhat close to an orange, does not mean these fruits need to be compared. Let me suggest to you, Zos, that Sigma is a truly revolutionary breakthrough in lens design. The sharpness that is provides and other renderings qualities (except work against the light sources) are indeed worth of title stack of _high quality_ primes. Additionally, you get wonderful USB connectivity option that would allow you to fully align this lens with AF system of your very camera, which for critical applications is well - critical. I have very old 17-70/2.8-4.5 and in terms of coatings it is 100% there. I don't miss SMC/HD or whatever. I totally don't understand doesn't say pentax on the barrel argument/sentiment/mention. Let me ask you - when having to choose 85/1.4 lens, would you then immediately dismiss Zeiss 85/1.4 (in Pentax K mount, of course) or Leica R 80/1.4 (with properly applied Leitax mount conversion) just because both Zeiss and Leica are not Pentax? Granted the Sigma 18-35 is big and heavy and very much so, it is how I would want Pentax to push the envelope and not offer to me yet another slow limited lens. The FA limited lenses were brilliant in being of exceptional optical quality and optimal speed (not too fast, not too slow). The DA limited lenses are, well, how to put it - indicative of someone in Pentax non-engineering headquarters deciding - I want my new limited lenses small, nothing else matters, give me small lenses. And so we have all the pancakes... And like I said - DA 20-40 seems like a good small street shooting lens or common purpose slow around the standard focal length optic. The WR adds nicely, the barrel design would seem to ensure somewhat better than average longevity. As for optical qualities - I would very much hope to see PDMLers shots that were made with it. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Las Vegas Photo Spots?
Drive west on Charleston (route 159) to Red Rock Canyon early in the morning... It's about a 20 minute drive as I remember and there is a loop road with foot trails going off it and a vistors center with more info. It was my get away place when I was caring for Richard because I couldn't be gone long... then go back to town by continuing on 159 and possibly stop at Spring Valley ranch - 159 will bring you back to LV from the south. I haven't been there since 1993 -- but spent a lot of time there- long story why Downtown used to be funky and fun for shooting... not sure what the story is these days. really good, cheap mexican food here El Sombrero - my fave and apparently still in favor with locals - I miss it. http://www.timeout.com/las-vegas/restaurants/venue/1%3A11715/el-sombrero here is an old shot of mine from red rock http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/48-states-project/25651290_9Dw44L#!i=2133090605k=zwXG8g9lb=1s=A Have fun! ann On 12/28/2013 13:09, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Anyone been to Las Vegas in recent memory? Know any good photo spots, in town, or out? Going with a friend in about a week (big electronic show), and haven't been there since I was about 15. I am not a gambler. I will visit the show for a while, but it's not really my thing. Googling I have found: Valley of Fire (red rock formations, 1 hour north), Goodsprings (ghost town, 30 minutes south), and in Las Vegas itself: a mock Venetian street with water and gondolas, a mock Eiffel tower, a mock Sphinx, and a neon sign boneyard (junk yard of old Las Vegas signs). Sometimes people on this list know where to shoot. Anything I've missed? Or shouldn't miss? Thanks in advance, Marnie aka Doe :-) Probably no one on this list has been there at all recently. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Waiting to Mush
Nice one! Attractive dog. Okay, reading this thread, because can't believe one dog can pull you. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 12/21/2013 5:15:01 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, danmaty...@gmail.com writes: My dog and his sled: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17632497size=md Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: I have a Great Niece
On 25/12/13, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/kayla1.html The shot has little technical merit, but I think the subject matter carries it nicely. Agreed. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: questions about the 20-40
On 12/27/2013 5:59 AM, Bill wrote: I'm really asking myself that question right now. Don't get me wrong, it's a gorgeous lens, and *the short zoom range makes it like an extended range standard lens*, it's sharp and has nice bokeh.. The problem is it's big, and at 2/3 of a pound, it isn't light, though it certainly isn't as heavy as it looks, *and it's slow*. OTOH, it *say Pentax on the bezel* and for me that is generally enough. *I just turn off the rational part of my brain and let the bit that is attracted to shiny things make the important decisions*. bill You have summed it up very nicely, Bill. I used * to emphasize the key points. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: More grunge (letter box this time)
On 28/12/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: This from two years ago. In a village near Cotty's place: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7dc01428.jpg Wow - where the heck was that! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Windchime
On 26/12/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: The Romans made interesting windchimes. http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20130419-the-shock-of-the-old And you complain about photo.net ;-) 'We're sorry but this site is not accessible from the UK as it is part of our international service and is not funded by the licence fee...' -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris PESO x3
On 12/24/2013 4:51 PM, Mark C wrote: At Sea is my favorite of the bunch - nice combination of colors, peaceful scene. The soft focus works for me. Cause and Effect is interesting buy looks a little contrived to me. Mark Finally! Mark, you just made me very happy! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: questions about the 20-40
On 26/12/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm curious, what is the appeal of the 20-40? Other than size, what are the advantages of it over the 16-50? You have to use your legs a little bit more. #health -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris PESO x3
On 12/21/2013 9:19 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: I wasn't sure if I was being clear in my original comment or not Boris, and it appears not. It would have been easy to take a picture of snow in the foreground with a well-known recognizable skyline in the background, or a road sign 25 kms to Tel Aviv, or whatever. The result would have been mild interest: oh, that is unusual for snow to be there. Quite forgettable unless you were there at the time. Like many vacation shots. I think that what you did was much more difficult (and interesting): you saw, recognized, and captured a nice abstract created by tire marks in the snow. It needs no geotag to be interesting in its own right. Thanks, Stan. Indeed I misunderstood your previous post on this matter. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Upcoming UK Trip
On 28/12/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: We're doing a day trip to Oxford on Wednesday, largely so Lisa can see the Bodlian Library's exhibit on 800 years of medical history in Oxford. Considering that return trains to London run fairly late, perhaps we can connect with Cotty and company? I'm free all day Weds so we'll pop in and meet you wherever. The house is a mess at the moment, and Stef's room has furniture piled high in there while some work is done in the other bedroom - once finished we will have a spare double room (in term time) so next time come stay here. When you are in the UK, email me on i...@seeingeye.tv and we can liaise - that email comes to my phone. For the rest of the time in London we're planning on seeing the Wildlife Photographer of the Year exhibit at the Natural History Museum and the Astronomy Photographer of the Year exhibit in Greenwich (Bob Walkden territory - fancy a pint somewhere in the neighborhood?) Keep me in the loop, I might be able to make that as well. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Old Lace
I like that too (and , of course, got Don's obscure reference to the missing arsnic. - not so obscure if you are of a certain age and liked movies... (1944) Frank Capra directed Arsnic and Old lace - Cary Grant starred. a silly bit of fluff but rather fun. I played the ingenue, Elaine, back in the 50's at the Chicago Stage Guild. (now) Mystery writer Les Roberts played Teddy Brewster.. hmm I seem to be waxing nostalgic ann On 12/28/2013 13:11, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Very nice. The remaining lace in the window lifts it above the ordinary. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 12/26/2013 12:21:19 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, apathy...@lyons-ryan.org writes: From Nevada City, Montana. http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP3711-K5-1peso.htm l http://tinyurl.com/lyjqz5q -- Cheers Brian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Las Vegas Photo Spots?
GREAT! Thanks, Ann. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 12/28/2013 10:49:04 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, ann...@nyc.rr.com writes: Drive west on Charleston (route 159) to Red Rock Canyon early in the morning... It's about a 20 minute drive as I remember and there is a loop road with foot trails going off it and a vistors center with more info. It was my get away place when I was caring for Richard because I couldn't be gone long... then go back to town by continuing on 159 and possibly stop at Spring Valley ranch - 159 will bring you back to LV from the south. I haven't been there since 1993 -- but spent a lot of time there- long story why Downtown used to be funky and fun for shooting... not sure what the story is these days. really good, cheap mexican food here El Sombrero - my fave and apparently still in favor with locals - I miss it. http://www.timeout.com/las-vegas/restaurants/venue/1%3A11715/el-sombrero here is an old shot of mine from red rock http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/48-states-project/25651290_ 9Dw44L#!i=2133090605k=zwXG8g9lb=1s=A Have fun! ann On 12/28/2013 13:09, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Anyone been to Las Vegas in recent memory? Know any good photo spots, in town, or out? Going with a friend in about a week (big electronic show), and haven't been there since I was about 15. I am not a gambler. I will visit the show for a while, but it's not really my thing. Googling I have found: Valley of Fire (red rock formations, 1 hour north), Goodsprings (ghost town, 30 minutes south), and in Las Vegas itself: a mock Venetian street with water and gondolas, a mock Eiffel tower, a mock Sphinx, and a neon sign boneyard (junk yard of old Las Vegas signs). Sometimes people on this list know where to shoot. Anything I've missed? Or shouldn't miss? Thanks in advance, Marnie aka Doe :-) Probably no one on this list has been there at all recently. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Happy Isaac Newton's birthday... and herre's the 2013 PDML Quotations List!
On 12/28/2013 12:51, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Nice quote list. With the exception that I am not on it. I guess I have to hang around more to be quoted . WTG, Ann, some good ones. Marnie aka Doe ;-) Thanks, Marnie - I was surprised to see myself 4 times this year - I have all my sent mail saved so I went back to look at the context The exchange below is what prompted my Sometimes I'm glad I don't know what things mean line - ORIGINAL POST FOR WHAT INSPIRED THAT ... On 8/1/2013 20:44, John Francis wrote: On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 02:33:06PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote: What is the biggest crisis facing the computer industry today? There are only 19683 TLAs. Shoddy counting. Only 17576 of those are true TLAs. If you want to count OLAs and inferior TLAs you can get up to 18278, but there's no way to get to 19683 wothout counting such obviously incorrect varieties as A B (and), and other malformations. ann In a message dated 12/25/2013 8:08:44 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, postmas...@robertstech.com writes: http://www.robertstech.com/quote.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)
On 28/12/13, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed: What says the PDML? It seems like the only good thing about Pentax not releasing a FF camera is that Cotty's hat is still intact, no? I suspect it will stay intact for a while longer mate ;-) Amazing to hear from you! What the hell are Pixar doing now that you're not there!! I would say definitely go with the Canon - my son has the 17-40/4 he uses on the 1DmIIn and it is a lovely lens. By all accounts the 24-105 is no slouch either. That said, you want a 36X24 sensor so why not go for a full-frame beast? (the 60D is APS-C) There's plenty of choice As Tevye said, on the other hand If Pentax do pull a rabbit out of a hat and bring FF to the market, I would love one. Exactly how possible this is, is anyone's guess. The hat stays on the plate for now. I'm shooting with some Fuji hardware at the moment and loving it. I've got an X-E1 and a lil X-10 and will pick up an X100 or X100s in due course - just a matter of time. Be well on your travels and bring out another book - the last one sits on a shelf next to Sieff, Newman, Frank and HCB! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: I have a Great Niece
Igor - a _great niece_ is the daughter of a neice or nephew , and therefore the grand-daughter of one's sister or brother. So why not grand niece one might wonder... I think maybe both are used fromtime to time - but cute kid anyway ann On 12/26/2013 11:05, Igor Roshchin wrote: Is it a niece who is great as in wonderful or it is a daughter of your sister/brother? I guess, - both. ;-) Am I wrong? Cheers, Igor On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 10:56 PM, Bill anotherdrunkensot at gmail.com wrote: And she is quite lovely. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/kayla1.html The shot has little technical merit, but I think the subject matter carries it nicely. For the technically inclined K3, 20-40 lens (which is turning out to be a bit of an odd beast) at 40mm. f/4.5 at 1/25th sec., ISO 1600. Happy Christmas bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)
On 28/12/13, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed: or get a 60D ($1300 Do you mean a 6D (36X24 sensor) or a 60D (APS-C sensor) ?? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: 2013 images
Bunch of good stuff to be sure... love those two eagles! and very fond of many of the puffins... among the photos I dont remember seeing before.. can't get through all of these I zipped through the thumbnails ann On 12/27/2013 11:04, SV Hovland wrote: I realized I haven't posted much images on pdml this year so here are some of them all at once. It started with a trip to Venice in January. http://download.heime.org/foto/pdml/2013.12a/index.html And some images from my neighbourhood. All of them within a few kilometres from my home. http://download.heime.org/foto/pdml/2013.12b/index.html Later in the year I took a trip to Voss Extreme Sport Week (http://www.ekstremsportveko.com/ ). http://download.heime.org/foto/pdml/2013.12c/index.html I won a nice competition with image #2 :-) Then a few days at Runde to photograph Atlantic Puffins http://download.heime.org/foto/pdml/2013.12d/index.html Some summer images from northern part of Norway and some from my neighbourhood. http://download.heime.org/foto/pdml/2013.12e/index.html From my Finland trip. http://download.heime.org/foto/pdml/2013.12f/index.html And finally some autumn photos. The last two are my brother and his son. http://download.heime.org/foto/pdml/2013.12g/index.html Stig Vidar Hovland -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Christmas in Versailles
Time very well spent, photographically! I'll need to make a second trip through them. The subjects and use of light are really nice, though. Rick On Dec 28, 2013, at 13:06 , Bob W wrote: I spent Christmas week in Versailles, and had a very enjoyable time. I'm no Atget, and here are some photos to prove it: http://www.web-options.com/V2013/ B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: most photographed places in the world
It's so crowded nobody goes there anymore The reason it is called a classic is that it's good. You never step into the same stream twice Shakespeare didn't create his own plots - his greatness lay in his language A couple of lines (somewhat paraphrased) that come to mind thinking about this - you certainly miss a lot if you avoid all the places people have photographed often - It is fun to find a secret place, a place no one knew - but it isn't going to necessarily make for better photos. etc,etc,etc, ann On 12/28/2013 13:04, Bob W wrote: One of the hotspots is Versailles, from which I have just returned. Photos to follow, whether the place is over-photoed or not. Jostein gave us an example recently of how to go to a place that's been photographed to death, and still come back with something good. I don't claim to have done the same, but I did try. B -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker Sent: 28 December 2013 14:58 To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List Subject: OT: most photographed places in the world I interpret this handy heatmap as where _not_ to go ... http://www.sightsmap.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: most photographed places in the world
Ann, Bob: my tongue was firmly in my cheek when I commented about places not to go. Well, half way, I guess. :-) But I think it's a great topic, and it's been darned quiet 'round here of late. I realize that folks find new ways of seeing and presenting the familiar all the time, and that is a worthy challenge in itself. Reinterpreting the classics is a language, like writing new blues tunes by plundering the old ones. I don't actually travel much myself, so I reinterpret what's around me (flowers, cats, people) and I hope I can somehow do it with a fresh PoV. Regardless, it's new to me, and that's good enough for now. On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: It's so crowded nobody goes there anymore The reason it is called a classic is that it's good. You never step into the same stream twice Shakespeare didn't create his own plots - his greatness lay in his language A couple of lines (somewhat paraphrased) that come to mind thinking about this - you certainly miss a lot if you avoid all the places people have photographed often - It is fun to find a secret place, a place no one knew - but it isn't going to necessarily make for better photos. etc,etc,etc, ann On 12/28/2013 13:04, Bob W wrote: One of the hotspots is Versailles, from which I have just returned. Photos to follow, whether the place is over-photoed or not. Jostein gave us an example recently of how to go to a place that's been photographed to death, and still come back with something good. I don't claim to have done the same, but I did try. B -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker Sent: 28 December 2013 14:58 To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List Subject: OT: most photographed places in the world I interpret this handy heatmap as where _not_ to go ... http://www.sightsmap.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: most photographed places in the world
The places make for quantity, but not necessarily quality, of photos. I've always liked Steve McCurry's photo of the Taj Mahal as an example of seeing something new. http://travel.nationalgeographic.co.uk/wallpaper/travel/traveler-magazine/places-of-a-lifetime-photos/01-places-lifetime-traveler-taj-mahal/ In fact, if you google steve mccurry taj mahal you'll see that he's found many different ways to show the Taj Mahal differently. I guess that's why he's in Magnum and working for National Geographic, and we're not. B On 28 Dec 2013, at 20:42, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: It's so crowded nobody goes there anymore The reason it is called a classic is that it's good. You never step into the same stream twice Shakespeare didn't create his own plots - his greatness lay in his language A couple of lines (somewhat paraphrased) that come to mind thinking about this - you certainly miss a lot if you avoid all the places people have photographed often - It is fun to find a secret place, a place no one knew - but it isn't going to necessarily make for better photos. etc,etc,etc, ann On 12/28/2013 13:04, Bob W wrote: One of the hotspots is Versailles, from which I have just returned. Photos to follow, whether the place is over-photoed or not. Jostein gave us an example recently of how to go to a place that's been photographed to death, and still come back with something good. I don't claim to have done the same, but I did try. B -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker Sent: 28 December 2013 14:58 To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List Subject: OT: most photographed places in the world I interpret this handy heatmap as where _not_ to go ... http://www.sightsmap.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: More grunge (letter box this time)
Steve Cottrell wrote: On 28/12/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: This from two years ago. In a village near Cotty's place: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7dc01428.jpg Wow - where the heck was that! Lechlade. It's the post office on High Street. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO FA 50/1.4 wide open
When I posted a Christmas pic of Grace I noted that it appeared I had missed on setting the fine focus adjustment on my FA 50/1.4. It was obvious that it was front focusing. Adjusted it again today -- with a new target that precludes focusing on the wrong line. Then I shot Grace and her Christmas present at f1.4. The focus is on her left eye. The FA 50/1.4 is a darn good lens when its calibrated. (Mine came in at -4.) While the K-3 delivers more DOF than would a 24 x 36 camera, I find it delivers enough softness in the foreground and background to make me happy. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17637421 Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: More grunge (letter box this time)
Mark Roberts wrote: Steve Cottrell wrote: On 28/12/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: This from two years ago. In a village near Cotty's place: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7dc01428.jpg Wow - where the heck was that! Lechlade. It's the post office on High Street. In fact, if you search on Lechlade Post Office, Lechlade, England, United Kingdom in Google Maps and switch to Street View you can see the letter box itself (and I remember how tightly I had to frame the shot to keep that drain pipe on the left out of the shot...) -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO FA 50/1.4 wide open
*Very* nice, Paul. Now I really must do the cal thing. Darn! I thought I had found some spare time for testing my redeployed foot stool and reading. On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: When I posted a Christmas pic of Grace I noted that it appeared I had missed on setting the fine focus adjustment on my FA 50/1.4. It was obvious that it was front focusing. Adjusted it again today -- with a new target that precludes focusing on the wrong line. Then I shot Grace and her Christmas present at f1.4. The focus is on her left eye. The FA 50/1.4 is a darn good lens when its calibrated. (Mine came in at -4.) While the K-3 delivers more DOF than would a 24 x 36 camera, I find it delivers enough softness in the foreground and background to make me happy. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17637421 Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: More grunge (letter box this time)
Ah, real nice, Mark. Folks actually trust their mail to that thing? It'd make me pause. On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: This from two years ago. In a village near Cotty's place: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7dc01428.jpg -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Windchime
On 28 Dec 2013, at 18:53, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 26/12/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: The Romans made interesting windchimes. http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20130419-the-shock-of-the-old And you complain about photo.net ;-) 'We're sorry but this site is not accessible from the UK as it is part of our international service and is not funded by the licence fee...' Bastards! That culture site is very interesting. Here's the windchime. Safe for work if you're an archaeologist of porn: http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/books/oxford/Pompei3Enlarge._V382563274_.jpg B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Happy Isaac Newton's birthday... and herre's the 2013 PDML Quotations List!
Cotty - you are just angling for the next quote list - so transparent! ann On 12/28/2013 13:43, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 25/12/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: My 2013 resolution was to be as unquotable as possible, so it looked as though I had a life. Mission accomplished. I once had a life where I wasn't envious of anything - then I took up photography. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)
Well, based on everything I've read lately, if you're not sticking with Pentax the better choice as far as imaging would be Nikon. I haven't compared Nikon and Canon directly for autofocus speed but others have said that Nikon is as good as Canon at for that at least at the upper end of their respective camera ranges. I read somewhere that Canon had managed to capture the lions share of the SLR market without having a wide angle lens worthy of mounting on a camera. I kind of agree. Now you probably want an optical viewfinder. I guess that would leave out the new Sony 24x36mm mirrorless cameras, though they're supposed to be very, very, good, with what might be the best or second best EVF available, but in that case, if you can get repetitively clean 16-24mp images from 4:3 or APS-C mirrorless cameras there seems to be less need for full frame, the viewfinder isn't quite so constrained by the laws of physics. The real advantage I suppose of the new Sonys is that with the short lens registration distance adapters for lots of legacy lenses will be available, which would make my lovely wide angle K mount lenses wide angle again, and maybe easier to shoot. So that's where I think I'd go, either to Nikon, they have the best output for imaging right now, or take a good hard look at the Sony a7/a7R but that would probably be in addition to keeping a Pentax body. This is beside the point, but I've handled Nikon and Canon bodies and I can safely say I don't hate Nikon ergonomics, I can't say the same for most Canon and some Sony products. On 12/28/2013 11:48 AM, Juan Buhler wrote: Hello all, I don't post here much anymore, but I decided to ask this because I see a lot of the old names and the pdml has always been an awesome group of people. As some of you might know, I've shot with Pentax all my photographic life. Starting with an ME-Super, going through PZ-1, MX (I still have two black ones!), ZX-n, istD, K10D, to my current ones, a K5 and a K-01 I bought because it was a really cheap way to put a sensor behind my lenses. I love the quality and ergonomics of my Pentax cameras. After all these years, I obviously have a nice set of lenses. I am currently traveling in South America long term, so I have a subset of those with me: 12-24 zoom, 21 Limited, FA28/2.8, FA35/2, FA50/1.7, 17-70 zoom. The first three are my most used ones right now. I also shoot a lot with a Leica M8 and either a 28 or 35mm lens on it. Now the time has came to renew my DSLR. Obviously, an option that is up there is a K3. It seems like a camera I'd love, and given that it's a Pentax, I can just use it without waiting for my fingers to learn where the controls are. BUT. I've missed having full frame all this time. I would love to go back to shooting mostly with a 50mm, because of its shallow depth of field. I would love to have a big viewfinder, and fast AF wouldn't hurt. Every time I pick up a Canon, it makes me sad how fast the AF is. Even way older models, like an original 5D, focuses way faster with a 50/1.8 than my K5 with a 50/1.7 or 35/2. So I am now trying to make this decision: get a K3, along with a 20-40 (that zoom looks great for photos in the street!), or get a 60D ($1300 at KEH), with a 50/1.8 and possibly a 28/1.8? If I get a Canon, I have lenses available through my girlfriend: a 17-40/4 and a 24-105/4, so I would immediately have a complete kit. The money spent would be about the same. One option means staying with a brand I know and love. The other means getting full frame and state of the art AF, no more little screws on my lenses. I feel like if I get the 60D I will miss Pentax tremendously. And if I get the K3 I will love it, and in three months I will be wishing for a full frame K mount. What says the PDML? It seems like the only good thing about Pentax not releasing a FF camera is that Cotty's hat is still intact, no? j -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: More grunge (letter box this time)
Bruce Walker wrote: Ah, real nice, Mark. Folks actually trust their mail to that thing? It'd make me pause. Well, it is installed in the wall of the Post Office, so every letter goes directly into the Post office itself. That's probably why it hasn't been replaced. Also notice from the GR at the top that this letter box predates Queen Elizabeth. Don't know by how much but it looks pretty old. http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7dc01428.jpg -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which lens would you like
1.) Pentax Fa 77mm 1.8 Ltd. 2.) Pentax Fa 77mm 1.8 Ltd. 3.) Kodak Ektar, 100mm f3.5 (Usually but not always found mounted on a Kodak Medalist II). On 10/31/2013 1:21 PM, CollinB wrote: 1) If you could get *any* lens for your Pentax, what would it be? 2) If you could get *any Pentax* lens for your Pentax, what would it be? 3) If you could get any lens for another camera/format, what would that lens be? 1) Zeiss 85/1.4 ZK 1) F* 300/4.5 2) Apo-Sironar-S 360/6.8 -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: More grunge (letter box this time)
On 28 Dec 2013, at 20:25, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Bruce Walker wrote: Ah, real nice, Mark. Folks actually trust their mail to that thing? It'd make me pause. Well, it is installed in the wall of the Post Office, so every letter goes directly into the Post office itself. That's probably why it hasn't been replaced. Also notice from the GR at the top that this letter box predates Queen Elizabeth. Don't know by how much but it looks pretty old. http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7dc01428.jpg Actually they don't trust their mail to it - it's blocked, and there's no insert for the next collection time. Not sure if it's George V or VI, probably V based on the font. Not earlier because the Post Office was started under Victoria. There are plenty of her post boxes still in use. I'd guess that one is listed or subject to some other sort of preservation order. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)
Thanks all for the thoughtful replies. Sorry--I was thinking 6D and looking at the 6D reviews, but somehow wrote 60D. Maybe it was some kind of Freudian thing that means that I want to stay with a smaller-than-35mm format. Or it might mean the opposite, the only sure thing is that it was Freudian :) Thanks Boris and Cotty for the correction. Paul, Stan--thanks. I am sure the K3 image quality is excellent. Heck, my K5 makes better images than I care for--give me a 12MP full frame sensor on a istD sized body and that's what I'll shoot with. Image quality stopped being an issue for me when we passed 10MP. Larry--that is a great idea. Except that Stephanie doesn't really shoot with Canon. She has a 1Dsomething mark2 (a non full frame one) and those two lenses, but in the last year found that my old Panasonic GF1 and 20mm/1.7 is plenty for her. I envy that, she manages to make great photographs and tell the story she wants to tell with a little four year old camera. The Canon hardware was left in San Francisco when we went there briefly in August. Besides, there would be no offering her half the price of the 6D, we are past that stage--money is our money... Boris--I actually have access to a 6D right now. I'm in Buenos Aires, and Stephanie's brother is here visiting. Another gearaholic, he brought both a 6D and a Sony 7R. I'm glad I got to try the Sony--extremely nice, compact full frame, but the shutter sound is like you are shooting a Pentax 6x7, and there's this (digital) viewfinder blackout that lasts an extremely long time between shots. So the Sony is discarded, even though I could easily mount all my SMC glass on it. The 6D strikes me as a little too big for my taste. It's too bad he didn't bring any prime lenses other than a Zeiss 35mm, which is also too big. All--I agree, it really dosn't seem like there's going to be a FF Pentax any time soon, if ever. More and more of their lenses are APS, and there doesn't seem to be a price range where they would fit: how much better than a 6D would it have to be for it to compete? I know *I* would gladly pay $2500 for a digital MX sort of camera with a K mount and a full frame sensor, but how many more people would? Probably not too many, and Ricoh/Pentax knows that. Cotty--as usual sir, you embarrass me with your praise. Thanks! The Fuji cameras seem really nice from what I've seen. BTW, one more thing: I might be getting an M9 to replace the M8. Not buying it--it's a long story, but basically I'll have an M9 to use and keep as long as I want. So maybe that will take care of the full frame urges. I'm flying to the USA next month, so that's when all the gear renewal is going to happen. Incredible how much cheaper things are in the States compared to most everywhere else. I'm leaning K3 now, because of the size and ergonomics... On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 28/12/13, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed: or get a 60D ($1300 Do you mean a 6D (36X24 sensor) or a 60D (APS-C sensor) ?? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Juan Buhler - http://www.jbuhler.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)
Funny, I was writing when your email arrived. The Sony a7r I discard, after hearing the shutter and seeing its frame to frame VF blackout. I hear the cheaper a7 might be better in those regards, and seriously, it is tempting. Wouldn't it be great to have one of those with an SMC M 50/1.4 on it? It even *looks* kind of like a black MX! Nikon is not an option for me because then I would be all on my own regarding lenses. With Canon, I could be borrowing really great glass from family. With Nikon, no such luck. j On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 5:24 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Well, based on everything I've read lately, if you're not sticking with Pentax the better choice as far as imaging would be Nikon. I haven't compared Nikon and Canon directly for autofocus speed but others have said that Nikon is as good as Canon at for that at least at the upper end of their respective camera ranges. I read somewhere that Canon had managed to capture the lions share of the SLR market without having a wide angle lens worthy of mounting on a camera. I kind of agree. Now you probably want an optical viewfinder. I guess that would leave out the new Sony 24x36mm mirrorless cameras, though they're supposed to be very, very, good, with what might be the best or second best EVF available, but in that case, if you can get repetitively clean 16-24mp images from 4:3 or APS-C mirrorless cameras there seems to be less need for full frame, the viewfinder isn't quite so constrained by the laws of physics. The real advantage I suppose of the new Sonys is that with the short lens registration distance adapters for lots of legacy lenses will be available, which would make my lovely wide angle K mount lenses wide angle again, and maybe easier to shoot. So that's where I think I'd go, either to Nikon, they have the best output for imaging right now, or take a good hard look at the Sony a7/a7R but that would probably be in addition to keeping a Pentax body. This is beside the point, but I've handled Nikon and Canon bodies and I can safely say I don't hate Nikon ergonomics, I can't say the same for most Canon and some Sony products. On 12/28/2013 11:48 AM, Juan Buhler wrote: Hello all, I don't post here much anymore, but I decided to ask this because I see a lot of the old names and the pdml has always been an awesome group of people. As some of you might know, I've shot with Pentax all my photographic life. Starting with an ME-Super, going through PZ-1, MX (I still have two black ones!), ZX-n, istD, K10D, to my current ones, a K5 and a K-01 I bought because it was a really cheap way to put a sensor behind my lenses. I love the quality and ergonomics of my Pentax cameras. After all these years, I obviously have a nice set of lenses. I am currently traveling in South America long term, so I have a subset of those with me: 12-24 zoom, 21 Limited, FA28/2.8, FA35/2, FA50/1.7, 17-70 zoom. The first three are my most used ones right now. I also shoot a lot with a Leica M8 and either a 28 or 35mm lens on it. Now the time has came to renew my DSLR. Obviously, an option that is up there is a K3. It seems like a camera I'd love, and given that it's a Pentax, I can just use it without waiting for my fingers to learn where the controls are. BUT. I've missed having full frame all this time. I would love to go back to shooting mostly with a 50mm, because of its shallow depth of field. I would love to have a big viewfinder, and fast AF wouldn't hurt. Every time I pick up a Canon, it makes me sad how fast the AF is. Even way older models, like an original 5D, focuses way faster with a 50/1.8 than my K5 with a 50/1.7 or 35/2. So I am now trying to make this decision: get a K3, along with a 20-40 (that zoom looks great for photos in the street!), or get a 60D ($1300 at KEH), with a 50/1.8 and possibly a 28/1.8? If I get a Canon, I have lenses available through my girlfriend: a 17-40/4 and a 24-105/4, so I would immediately have a complete kit. The money spent would be about the same. One option means staying with a brand I know and love. The other means getting full frame and state of the art AF, no more little screws on my lenses. I feel like if I get the 60D I will miss Pentax tremendously. And if I get the K3 I will love it, and in three months I will be wishing for a full frame K mount. What says the PDML? It seems like the only good thing about Pentax not releasing a FF camera is that Cotty's hat is still intact, no? j -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Juan Buhler - http://www.jbuhler.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
Re: PESO: More grunge (letter box this time)
Bob W wrote: On 28 Dec 2013, at 20:25, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Bruce Walker wrote: Ah, real nice, Mark. Folks actually trust their mail to that thing? It'd make me pause. Well, it is installed in the wall of the Post Office, so every letter goes directly into the Post office itself. That's probably why it hasn't been replaced. Also notice from the GR at the top that this letter box predates Queen Elizabeth. Don't know by how much but it looks pretty old. http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7dc01428.jpg Actually they don't trust their mail to it - it's blocked, and there's no insert for the next collection time. Not sure if it's George V or VI, probably V based on the font. Not earlier because the Post Office was started under Victoria. There are plenty of her post boxes still in use. I'd guess that one is listed or subject to some other sort of preservation order. Well damn. There goes my plan to send letters full of coins, paper money and jewellery through there! -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Upcoming UK Trip
On 28 Dec 2013, at 18:43, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: OK, so Lisa and I have pretty much solidified our travel plans for our upcoming trip. We'll be arriving in London on the 11th of January (Saturday) and staying in London for the week (I talked Lisa out of going to Cambridge). We have theatre tickets for Tuesday and Thursday evenings (although the Tuesday show is contingent on the Apollo Theatre being re-opened by then as they have stated). [...] For the rest of the time in London we're planning on seeing the Wildlife Photographer of the Year exhibit at the Natural History Museum and the Astronomy Photographer of the Year exhibit in Greenwich (Bob Walkden territory – fancy a pint somewhere in the neighborhood?) Yes, that'd be great. I can do pretty much any evening that week except Thursday 16th. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: More grunge (letter box this time)
On 28 Dec 2013, at 20:53, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Bob W wrote: On 28 Dec 2013, at 20:25, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Bruce Walker wrote: Ah, real nice, Mark. Folks actually trust their mail to that thing? It'd make me pause. Well, it is installed in the wall of the Post Office, so every letter goes directly into the Post office itself. That's probably why it hasn't been replaced. Also notice from the GR at the top that this letter box predates Queen Elizabeth. Don't know by how much but it looks pretty old. http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7dc01428.jpg Actually they don't trust their mail to it - it's blocked, and there's no insert for the next collection time. Not sure if it's George V or VI, probably V based on the font. Not earlier because the Post Office was started under Victoria. There are plenty of her post boxes still in use. I'd guess that one is listed or subject to some other sort of preservation order. Well damn. There goes my plan to send letters full of coins, paper money and jewellery through there! Send them to me - I'll make sure they don't get here. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: stars
At the beginning of last month we were in Peru, on the coast. One night I looked at the stars and realized we were pointing straight south. By the stars I mean my compass. And by my compass I mean the compass app on the iphone. Anyway, we were pointing straight south, so I made this photo: http://www.vanenvan.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/20131102-JBK57217.jpg K5, 12-24/4 at 12mm, f4, on bulb for a while while I had some beers and dinner. Some of you might have seen it since I posted it to vanenvan.com, but I thought it would be nite to post here too. j -- Juan Buhler - http://www.jbuhler.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: most photographed places in the world
On 28 Dec 2013, at 19:56, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Ann, Bob: my tongue was firmly in my cheek when I commented about places not to go. Well, half way, I guess. :-) But I think it's a great topic, and it's been darned quiet 'round here of late. I realize that folks find new ways of seeing and presenting the familiar all the time, and that is a worthy challenge in itself. Reinterpreting the classics is a language, like writing new blues tunes by plundering the old ones. I don't actually travel much myself, so I reinterpret what's around me (flowers, cats, people) and I hope I can somehow do it with a fresh PoV. Regardless, it's new to me, and that's good enough for now. That's another great idea, to explore a place in depth. It's (sort of) one of the things I've been doing with the photos on my site of Greenwich. [...] -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker Sent: 28 December 2013 14:58 I interpret this handy heatmap as where _not_ to go ... http://www.sightsmap.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)
I've heard that the Sony shutters are loud too. But then again, I'm still shooting a K20D and there's talk about how loud that shutter is, until I talk too some of my friends who are shooting mid range Canon and Nikon bodies, and then they tell me how quiet my camera is, (I guess they don't listen to it autofocusing because I use mostly manual focus lenses). On 12/28/2013 3:44 PM, Juan Buhler wrote: Funny, I was writing when your email arrived. The Sony a7r I discard, after hearing the shutter and seeing its frame to frame VF blackout. I hear the cheaper a7 might be better in those regards, and seriously, it is tempting. Wouldn't it be great to have one of those with an SMC M 50/1.4 on it? It even *looks* kind of like a black MX! Nikon is not an option for me because then I would be all on my own regarding lenses. With Canon, I could be borrowing really great glass from family. With Nikon, no such luck. j On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 5:24 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Well, based on everything I've read lately, if you're not sticking with Pentax the better choice as far as imaging would be Nikon. I haven't compared Nikon and Canon directly for autofocus speed but others have said that Nikon is as good as Canon at for that at least at the upper end of their respective camera ranges. I read somewhere that Canon had managed to capture the lions share of the SLR market without having a wide angle lens worthy of mounting on a camera. I kind of agree. Now you probably want an optical viewfinder. I guess that would leave out the new Sony 24x36mm mirrorless cameras, though they're supposed to be very, very, good, with what might be the best or second best EVF available, but in that case, if you can get repetitively clean 16-24mp images from 4:3 or APS-C mirrorless cameras there seems to be less need for full frame, the viewfinder isn't quite so constrained by the laws of physics. The real advantage I suppose of the new Sonys is that with the short lens registration distance adapters for lots of legacy lenses will be available, which would make my lovely wide angle K mount lenses wide angle again, and maybe easier to shoot. So that's where I think I'd go, either to Nikon, they have the best output for imaging right now, or take a good hard look at the Sony a7/a7R but that would probably be in addition to keeping a Pentax body. This is beside the point, but I've handled Nikon and Canon bodies and I can safely say I don't hate Nikon ergonomics, I can't say the same for most Canon and some Sony products. On 12/28/2013 11:48 AM, Juan Buhler wrote: Hello all, I don't post here much anymore, but I decided to ask this because I see a lot of the old names and the pdml has always been an awesome group of people. As some of you might know, I've shot with Pentax all my photographic life. Starting with an ME-Super, going through PZ-1, MX (I still have two black ones!), ZX-n, istD, K10D, to my current ones, a K5 and a K-01 I bought because it was a really cheap way to put a sensor behind my lenses. I love the quality and ergonomics of my Pentax cameras. After all these years, I obviously have a nice set of lenses. I am currently traveling in South America long term, so I have a subset of those with me: 12-24 zoom, 21 Limited, FA28/2.8, FA35/2, FA50/1.7, 17-70 zoom. The first three are my most used ones right now. I also shoot a lot with a Leica M8 and either a 28 or 35mm lens on it. Now the time has came to renew my DSLR. Obviously, an option that is up there is a K3. It seems like a camera I'd love, and given that it's a Pentax, I can just use it without waiting for my fingers to learn where the controls are. BUT. I've missed having full frame all this time. I would love to go back to shooting mostly with a 50mm, because of its shallow depth of field. I would love to have a big viewfinder, and fast AF wouldn't hurt. Every time I pick up a Canon, it makes me sad how fast the AF is. Even way older models, like an original 5D, focuses way faster with a 50/1.8 than my K5 with a 50/1.7 or 35/2. So I am now trying to make this decision: get a K3, along with a 20-40 (that zoom looks great for photos in the street!), or get a 60D ($1300 at KEH), with a 50/1.8 and possibly a 28/1.8? If I get a Canon, I have lenses available through my girlfriend: a 17-40/4 and a 24-105/4, so I would immediately have a complete kit. The money spent would be about the same. One option means staying with a brand I know and love. The other means getting full frame and state of the art AF, no more little screws on my lenses. I feel like if I get the 60D I will miss Pentax tremendously. And if I get the K3 I will love it, and in three months I will be wishing for a full frame K mount. What says the PDML? It seems like the only good thing about Pentax not releasing a FF camera is that Cotty's hat is still intact, no? j -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy,
Re: PESO: stars
Mahvelous, Juan! That's a terrific shot. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you both … I'm reminded to go visit your blog and read about your adventures. I'm at least a month behind at present. best, Godfrey On Dec 28, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Juan Buhler juanbuh...@gmail.com wrote: At the beginning of last month we were in Peru, on the coast. One night I looked at the stars and realized we were pointing straight south. By the stars I mean my compass. And by my compass I mean the compass app on the iphone. Anyway, we were pointing straight south, so I made this photo: http://www.vanenvan.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/20131102-JBK57217.jpg K5, 12-24/4 at 12mm, f4, on bulb for a while while I had some beers and dinner. Some of you might have seen it since I posted it to vanenvan.com, but I thought it would be nite to post here too. j -- Juan Buhler - http://www.jbuhler.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Christmas in Versailles
On 28 Dec 2013, at 18:35, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I always love your galleries, Bob, and this is no exception. Lovely. Thanks, that's very flattering. Liked too many to pick some out, but did notice especially the BW of the various levels of buildings, the statue head (male), the reflecting ponds (two), and the draped statues. But also some good long distant shots of the area exterior and interior. The covered statues are very surreal and sort of spooky. Took me a moment, on the first one, to figure out what the heck they were. Heh. Trompe l'oeuil! I was making a deliberate effort to reflect (!) in my photos something of the baroque obsession, which continues to this day in French culture, with elements like trompe l'oeuil, mirrors and reflections, mise en abyme, optical illusion, the labyrinth, rigid geometry and so on that all underpin Versailles. The whole place is a vast illusion and Louis XIV was the wizard of Oz. Envious (re trip). It's very convenient from here. I left the place I was staying at 9am UK time and was back at home before 2:30pm. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 12/28/2013 10:06:21 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, p...@web-options.com writes: I spent Christmas week in Versailles, and had a very enjoyable time. I'm no Atget, and here are some photos to prove it: http://www.web-options.com/V2013/ B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: stars
Nice to hear from you again! Can't help with the camera, but definitely a good idea to get the M9. How strange that when I looked at your shot I was also looking at this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/Istanbul.Hagia_Sophia075.jpg B On 28 Dec 2013, at 21:04, Juan Buhler juanbuh...@gmail.com wrote: At the beginning of last month we were in Peru, on the coast. One night I looked at the stars and realized we were pointing straight south. By the stars I mean my compass. And by my compass I mean the compass app on the iphone. Anyway, we were pointing straight south, so I made this photo: http://www.vanenvan.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/20131102-JBK57217.jpg K5, 12-24/4 at 12mm, f4, on bulb for a while while I had some beers and dinner. Some of you might have seen it since I posted it to vanenvan.com, but I thought it would be nite to post here too. j -- Juan Buhler - http://www.jbuhler.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: stars
Beautiful! On Dec 28, 2013, at 4:04 PM, Juan Buhler juanbuh...@gmail.com wrote: At the beginning of last month we were in Peru, on the coast. One night I looked at the stars and realized we were pointing straight south. By the stars I mean my compass. And by my compass I mean the compass app on the iphone. Anyway, we were pointing straight south, so I made this photo: http://www.vanenvan.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/20131102-JBK57217.jpg K5, 12-24/4 at 12mm, f4, on bulb for a while while I had some beers and dinner. Some of you might have seen it since I posted it to vanenvan.com, but I thought it would be nite to post here too. j -- Juan Buhler - http://www.jbuhler.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
today's gear hack
As I'm getting ready for my road trip, I remembered that I never repaired the loop at the bottom of my tripod shaft that I'd use for attaching a strap to so I could conveniently carry it over my shoulder. I found the solution in a 1/4-20 eye bolt, which also turned out to be a cheap way of getting one of those fancy camera straps that hangs the comera upside down at your side. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157639129071703/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO FA 50/1.4 wide open
Thanks Bruce. I can't imagine that shooting wide open with this fast a lens is possible without fine focus adjustment. Very few screw drive lenses are perfectly accurate right out of the box. On Dec 28, 2013, at 3:15 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: *Very* nice, Paul. Now I really must do the cal thing. Darn! I thought I had found some spare time for testing my redeployed foot stool and reading. On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: When I posted a Christmas pic of Grace I noted that it appeared I had missed on setting the fine focus adjustment on my FA 50/1.4. It was obvious that it was front focusing. Adjusted it again today -- with a new target that precludes focusing on the wrong line. Then I shot Grace and her Christmas present at f1.4. The focus is on her left eye. The FA 50/1.4 is a darn good lens when its calibrated. (Mine came in at -4.) While the K-3 delivers more DOF than would a 24 x 36 camera, I find it delivers enough softness in the foreground and background to make me happy. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17637421 Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 06:37:21PM -0200, Juan Buhler wrote: BTW, one more thing: I might be getting an M9 to replace the M8. Not buying it--it's a long story, but basically I'll have an M9 to use and keep as long as I want. So maybe that will take care of the full frame urges. I'm flying to the USA next month, so that's when all the gear renewal is going to happen. Incredible how much cheaper things are in the States compared to most everywhere else. You mentioned SF, if you're in the Bay Area, do give us a heads up so that we can put a face to the email. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 01:54:20PM -0800, Larry Colen wrote: On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 06:37:21PM -0200, Juan Buhler wrote: BTW, one more thing: I might be getting an M9 to replace the M8. Not buying it--it's a long story, but basically I'll have an M9 to use and keep as long as I want. So maybe that will take care of the full frame urges. I'm flying to the USA next month, so that's when all the gear renewal is going to happen. Incredible how much cheaper things are in the States compared to most everywhere else. You mentioned SF, if you're in the Bay Area, do give us a heads up so that we can put a face to the email. Or, in some case, renew an old acquaintance. Thare are still a few faces around here that Juan might recognise ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 1st composite
Very surreal and dream-like, reminds me of Inception. On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Hi Everyone: Despite having only Photoshop Elements 11, I purchased Larry’s book suggestion Photoshop for Lightroom Users in the ebook format. Turns out one can do a bit of compositing in PS Elements, and I had my first go at it today. I’ve always loved collage and such and have done a bit of textile collage. I hope to do some more of this photo compositing in the coming year. Two different parts of the Chicago River. The part with the boat was taken from the north Michigan Ave Bridge facing west. The frame on the left side was taken from the 15th floor of the Holiday Inn behind the Merchandise Mart. The first bridge is on Randolph Street Nothing very grand, but it was fun to learn something new! And I even made a print—now that I’m able to do so :-)! http://www.caguila.com/1stcomp/content/first_composit_large.html Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, and a Salubrious Solstice!
Very nice balance of colors, and that red looks fresh. Squirrel feast:) Happy Holidays! On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 5:42 AM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17629071 or http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17629071-lg.jpg (K-5, FA 28/2.8) Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Christmas in Versailles
Thanks for sharing the gallery with us. I really enjoyed it. You have some well-planned shots. Yonnie On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: On 28 Dec 2013, at 18:35, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I always love your galleries, Bob, and this is no exception. Lovely. Thanks, that's very flattering. Liked too many to pick some out, but did notice especially the BW of the various levels of buildings, the statue head (male), the reflecting ponds (two), and the draped statues. But also some good long distant shots of the area exterior and interior. The covered statues are very surreal and sort of spooky. Took me a moment, on the first one, to figure out what the heck they were. Heh. Trompe l'oeuil! I was making a deliberate effort to reflect (!) in my photos something of the baroque obsession, which continues to this day in French culture, with elements like trompe l'oeuil, mirrors and reflections, mise en abyme, optical illusion, the labyrinth, rigid geometry and so on that all underpin Versailles. The whole place is a vast illusion and Louis XIV was the wizard of Oz. Envious (re trip). It's very convenient from here. I left the place I was staying at 9am UK time and was back at home before 2:30pm. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 12/28/2013 10:06:21 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, p...@web-options.com writes: I spent Christmas week in Versailles, and had a very enjoyable time. I'm no Atget, and here are some photos to prove it: http://www.web-options.com/V2013/ B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: most photographed places in the world
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 8:25 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: Hmm. It appears that the most photographed scene in San Jose is the sign outside the main eBay building. Perhaps they put it up for sale :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)
Definitely! I went to several of the PDML meetups, up until 2007 or so. And I've lived in the Bay Area for 18 years! We are going back after this trip, San Francisco is home after all. Are you guys still meeting from time to time? j On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 7:09 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 01:54:20PM -0800, Larry Colen wrote: On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 06:37:21PM -0200, Juan Buhler wrote: BTW, one more thing: I might be getting an M9 to replace the M8. Not buying it--it's a long story, but basically I'll have an M9 to use and keep as long as I want. So maybe that will take care of the full frame urges. I'm flying to the USA next month, so that's when all the gear renewal is going to happen. Incredible how much cheaper things are in the States compared to most everywhere else. You mentioned SF, if you're in the Bay Area, do give us a heads up so that we can put a face to the email. Or, in some case, renew an old acquaintance. Thare are still a few faces around here that Juan might recognise ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Juan Buhler - http://www.jbuhler.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 1st composite
Fun stuff. Disparate images, nicely married Paul via phone On Dec 28, 2013, at 5:24 PM, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote: Very surreal and dream-like, reminds me of Inception. On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Hi Everyone: Despite having only Photoshop Elements 11, I purchased Larry’s book suggestion Photoshop for Lightroom Users in the ebook format. Turns out one can do a bit of compositing in PS Elements, and I had my first go at it today. I’ve always loved collage and such and have done a bit of textile collage. I hope to do some more of this photo compositing in the coming year. Two different parts of the Chicago River. The part with the boat was taken from the north Michigan Ave Bridge facing west. The frame on the left side was taken from the 15th floor of the Holiday Inn behind the Merchandise Mart. The first bridge is on Randolph Street Nothing very grand, but it was fun to learn something new! And I even made a print—now that I’m able to do so :-)! http://www.caguila.com/1stcomp/content/first_composit_large.html Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)
We get together but very occasionally, usually when someone is visiting town. Last time was when Jostein was here. It would be great to see you again, do tell when you'll be in town. I have thoughts on the Great Camera Hunt ... But that'll be another post. :-) Godfrey -- Godfrey DiGiorgi - godfreydigio...@me.com On Dec 28, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Juan Buhler juanbuh...@gmail.com wrote: Definitely! I went to several of the PDML meetups, up until 2007 or so. And I've lived in the Bay Area for 18 years! We are going back after this trip, San Francisco is home after all. Are you guys still meeting from time to time? j On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 7:09 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 01:54:20PM -0800, Larry Colen wrote: On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 06:37:21PM -0200, Juan Buhler wrote: BTW, one more thing: I might be getting an M9 to replace the M8. Not buying it--it's a long story, but basically I'll have an M9 to use and keep as long as I want. So maybe that will take care of the full frame urges. I'm flying to the USA next month, so that's when all the gear renewal is going to happen. Incredible how much cheaper things are in the States compared to most everywhere else. You mentioned SF, if you're in the Bay Area, do give us a heads up so that we can put a face to the email. Or, in some case, renew an old acquaintance. Thare are still a few faces around here that Juan might recognise ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Juan Buhler - http://www.jbuhler.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: most photographed places in the world
On 12/28/2013 14:56, Bruce Walker wrote: Ann, Bob: my tongue was firmly in my cheek when I commented about places not to go. Well, half way, I guess. :-) But I think it's a great topic, and it's been darned quiet 'round here of late. actually, my teasing was pointed more at Larry - who asked the question about un-over photoed places for a trip a while ago - fairly recently. But yes it is a fair topic. ann I realize that folks find new ways of seeing and presenting the familiar all the time, and that is a worthy challenge in itself. Reinterpreting the classics is a language, like writing new blues tunes by plundering the old ones. I don't actually travel much myself, so I reinterpret what's around me (flowers, cats, people) and I hope I can somehow do it with a fresh PoV. Regardless, it's new to me, and that's good enough for now. On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: It's so crowded nobody goes there anymore The reason it is called a classic is that it's good. You never step into the same stream twice Shakespeare didn't create his own plots - his greatness lay in his language A couple of lines (somewhat paraphrased) that come to mind thinking about this - you certainly miss a lot if you avoid all the places people have photographed often - It is fun to find a secret place, a place no one knew - but it isn't going to necessarily make for better photos. etc,etc,etc, ann On 12/28/2013 13:04, Bob W wrote: One of the hotspots is Versailles, from which I have just returned. Photos to follow, whether the place is over-photoed or not. Jostein gave us an example recently of how to go to a place that's been photographed to death, and still come back with something good. I don't claim to have done the same, but I did try. B -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker Sent: 28 December 2013 14:58 To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List Subject: OT: most photographed places in the world I interpret this handy heatmap as where _not_ to go ... http://www.sightsmap.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Shout-out for Godfrey!
Ditto strongly - he's been of wonderful help over the few years we've been friends - and good company in person as well! ann On 12/27/2013 11:28, Paul Stenquist wrote: Godfrey does deserve accolades for all the assistance he provides here. He taught me to manage color workflow for printing way back when and has provided much advice when I was troubleshooting my computer systems. His instructions are far more lucid than those provided by most tech support people. It’s been an education. Paul On Dec 27, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote: On Dec 26, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 26/12/13, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: You're a peach, Godfrey! More an apple ;-) Hmm. Cobbler fill, eh? Thank you, Christine! Glad to help. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)
Two things: 1 I hope you can contribute to the PDML Photo Annual this year 2 I think the K3 would work for you, but if you consider switching I think the new Sony full-frame A7 and A7r cameras would be suitable for street photography. Smaller than cameras with a reflex mirror and quieter, too (the 24MP A7 is apparently even quieter than the 36MP A7r for some reason). -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: stars
wow - that's really fun - and interesting.. and I like the little touch of civilization on the right and the light on the left that looks like it must be another vehicle coming toward you instead of the sun, which was my first thought. ann On 12/28/2013 16:04, Juan Buhler wrote: At the beginning of last month we were in Peru, on the coast. One night I looked at the stars and realized we were pointing straight south. By the stars I mean my compass. And by my compass I mean the compass app on the iphone. Anyway, we were pointing straight south, so I made this photo: http://www.vanenvan.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/20131102-JBK57217.jpg K5, 12-24/4 at 12mm, f4, on bulb for a while while I had some beers and dinner. Some of you might have seen it since I posted it to vanenvan.com, but I thought it would be nite to post here too. j -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Christmas in Versailles
The weather looks like it was better there. Your house in one piece/unsubmerged etc? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Christmas in Versailles
Thanks Rick. I've just added more pictures to the gallery. B On 28 Dec 2013, at 19:35, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Time very well spent, photographically! I'll need to make a second trip through them. The subjects and use of light are really nice, though. Rick On Dec 28, 2013, at 13:06 , Bob W wrote: I spent Christmas week in Versailles, and had a very enjoyable time. I'm no Atget, and here are some photos to prove it: http://www.web-options.com/V2013/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Christmas in Versailles
On 28 Dec 2013, at 18:25, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 28/12/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: I spent Christmas week in Versailles, and had a very enjoyable time. I'm no Atget, and here are some photos to prove it: http://www.web-options.com/V2013/ Enjoyed looking at those, thanks for posting! Love this one: http://www.web-options.com/V2013/content/P0270734_large.html I hope you were pricing up some retirement flats! ;-) Ta. One of these would do nicely: http://www.web-options.com/V2013/content/P0260575_large.html B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Christmas in Versailles
On 28 Dec 2013, at 22:57, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: The weather looks like it was better there. Your house in one piece/unsubmerged etc? No problems here. It was bloody miserable in Versailles until the afternoon of Christmas Day when it cheered up a bit, and they had a lot of flooding in Normandy and Brittany. Funnily enough, wandering around the gardens at Versailles reminded me of Beamish. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Happy Isaac Newton's birthday... and herre's the 2013 PDML Quotations List!
On 28/12/13, Ann Sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty - you are just angling for the next quote list - so transparent! Damn. Found out again. Bloody Noo Yahhhkahs. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: More grunge (letter box this time)
On 28/12/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: In fact, if you search on Lechlade Post Office, Lechlade, England, United Kingdom in Google Maps and switch to Street View you can see the letter box itself (and I remember how tightly I had to frame the shot to keep that drain pipe on the left out of the shot...) #like -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: More grunge (letter box this time)
On 28/12/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: the Post Office was started under Victoria This explains a lot. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: stars
On 28/12/13, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.vanenvan.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/20131102-JBK57217.jpg K5, 12-24/4 at 12mm, f4, on bulb for a while while I had some beers and dinner. Some of you might have seen it since I posted it to vanenvan.com, but I thought it would be nite to post here too. Coolness!!! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
