Congrats! That really is a great shot! What were these difficulties you
mentioned with the PZ-1 for this shot?
True story: The first night, I took the PZ-1 and found a number of
logistical
difficulties in using it for this shot. So I chose the WR-90 the next
night,
largely because of the Bulb
On 5 Nov 2003 at 23:50, John Francis wrote:
Then there's the fact that the original article is light on details;
the 3k could be street price, wholesale price, manufacturing price,
or even just the cost to Pentax of the sensor.
Whatever it means it's pie-in-the sky pricing, I have a recent
http://www.fotoshopping.de/shopping/shop/article.asp?EAN=1241324654237
I have no experience with this firm, anyone ordered from digitale.welt
in Germany before?
--
Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
More than a year ago (two?) we had a discussion about this very thing -
colour perception. Do we all see the same colours? Two people look at a
coloured object; both agree that it's yellow-green. But do they actually
perceive identically? I think we concluded that it didn't matter whether
they did
My main advice would be to think very hard before selling the LX and the lens.
You might really regret it afterwards, because none of the cameras mentioned,
comes close to the quality feel that makes the LX so outstanding. Even the MZ-S
is no match, although it is far better than the PZ1 - but
This one time, at band camp, David Madsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone who is considering an MZ-S should visit Dario's wonderful site,
URL?
Kevin
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I hope not too many of you have been alarmed by the Verisign automatic
address updating routine -- Plaxo. I activated it to update my address book.
I have 403 addresses and wanted to see if any could be removed -- before
Christmas when I send out my usual greetings. It's quite secure and safe.
I
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:22:01 +0200, Dr E D F Williams wrote:
More than a year ago (two?) we had a discussion about this very thing -
colour perception. Do we all see the same colours? Two people look at a
coloured object; both agree that it's yellow-green. But do they actually
perceive
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From what I can gather, there's going to be a foreign invasion at the 2004
GFM NPW.
Coming to gather you all in and teach you how to really party ;-)
Cheers,
Cotty
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I may need to bum a ride from somewhere in the NE US down to GFM. Now,
wouldn't that be a fun trip, Cotty? vbg
You have no idea ;-)
Glad you'll be there. I'm so looking forward to this...
Same here buddy.
Cheers,
Cotty
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So, is this Dr. Williams or a really smart virus? Kinda like The
Matrix, don't you think? ;-p
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/06/03 08:47AM
I hope not too many of you have been alarmed by the Verisign automatic
address updating routine -- Plaxo. I activated it to update my address
book.
I have 403
On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 09:15:43 -0500
Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, is this Dr. Williams or a really smart virus? Kinda like The
Matrix, don't you think? ;-p
No, not Matrix, not again...
Boris
It's an interesting thought, but what I perceive to be blue might actually
what you perceive to be green. Imagine people around you who go thru life
seeing 'blue' vegetables (though it seems perfectly normal to them *because*
that's what they always known the label 'green' to refer to). And how
All pictures shown in my website were shot in *** jpeg, with the only
exception of the bell tower among the last sample pictures (where
RAW+conversion is stated).
Ciao,
Dario
- Original Message -
From: Gianfranco Irlanda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November
So you were on topic after all. Thanks.
Dario
- Original Message -
From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: Pentax *ist D vs. Fujifilm S2 Pro: final update
and NASA software is public domain.
Herb
-
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~I'm~ getting married. Cotty will be the Best Man (we'll have to think
of a
more appropriate term to describe him, though).
Suggestions please...
;-)
Brad Dobo.
Cheers,
Cotty
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Almost as sad are the people who bring in their wedding
albums with 100
photos marked with post-it notes (wanting different sizes
and crops, of
course), lay down a massive fricken pile of negatives, and
expect the
clerk to match up each photo with
On 6/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
Frank can loan you his bunny ears.
He won't need to.
;-)
Cheers,
Cotty
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(b) a place to stay - which could be the back of somebody;s van..
There's a movie in this.
Cheers,
Cotty
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On Wednesday, Nov 5, 2003, at 17:21 America/New_York, Mark Erickson
wrote:
All,
Check out this posting over at photo.net:
http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=006R06
I think even at US$6,000 it would be considered a steal if it is
comparable with something like a PhaseOne H20.
Wouldn'y those glass bricks in the wall behind the people be highly
reflective? That could reaaly fool a flash.
Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/05/03 07:28PM
Herb Chong wrote:
nothing reads Pentax RAW format except Pentax software, yet. i'm not holding
my breath.
I believe GraphicConverter will.
http://www.lemkesoft.de/en/index.htm
keith whaley
i shoot RAW most of the time. 12-bit versus 8-bit means i have
more room for working with images
-Original Message-
From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 6/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
Ha!
This is related to the comment I often get - Oh, you
shoot weddings.
It must be so nice to work one day a week!
Tom, you told me it was just the afternoon
Quiet!
Nah, not Brad, but The Who.
- Original Message -
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: GFM - looks like I will be there
On 5/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
~I'm~ getting married. Cotty will be the
Plaxo is distributed by Verisign and is a program that becomes part of
Outlook Express providing buttons on the top line for its activation. The
program automatically requests updates from all addresses in your Windows
address book. It's safe and secure. I haven't used it until now because I
Alle 14:32, giovedì 6 novembre 2003, Keith Whaley ha scritto:
Herb Chong wrote:
nothing reads Pentax RAW format except Pentax software, yet. i'm not
holding my breath.
I believe GraphicConverter will.
http://www.lemkesoft.de/en/index.htm
good news for all you linux users here:
Hi Frits,
On 06 Nov 2003 12:44:48 +0100, Frits Wthrich wrote:
I just had one *ist D in my hands, a shop in Amersfoort, the Netherlands
had one available. He claimed it is not sold without the 18-35mm lens,
and only costs eur 2399.00
He couldn't compete with USA or German pricing, in Germany the
Weather permitting, on the night of November 8 in the U.S. and very early
in the morning on November 9 in other parts of the world, there will a lunar
eclipse that is visible over most of North America, Europe and Africa. In
the U.S. the entire event will be visible to viewers on the east coast.
Hi!
What I find particularly not good about Plaxo is that it would work
only with Micro$oft software that is not very reliable or secure... I
for once, don't use MS mail clients, but rather something else...
Boris
Does sound like the PDML is invading GFM in 2004 doesn't it?
Looks like the 2004 NPW at GFM may be 100% pre-registered, the first time that
has happened, I understand. So if anyone on the list wants to make it they
should think about registering ASAP.
http://grandfather.com/events/nphoto.htm
Hi,
Thursday, November 6, 2003, 2:24:49 PM, you wrote:
It's an interesting thought, but what I perceive to be blue might actually
what you perceive to be green. Imagine people around you who go thru life
seeing 'blue' vegetables (though it seems perfectly normal to them *because*
that's what
Now, as good as HCB was, no one was (or is) better than
Shel Belinkoff, late of this list
His initials are SCB. Maybe that has something to do with it g.
SCB = Super Cartier-Bresson LOL
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Still getting unsubscribed from reply to, trying direct
For this class of lens it is quite sharp plus a lot of fun. I have
enjoyed mine much. It is sharper than Pentax's F 17-28 fisheys.
JOe
Hi,
Thursday, November 6, 2003, 3:18:52 PM, you wrote:
Weather permitting, on the night of November 8 in the U.S. and very early
in the morning on November 9 in other parts of the world, there will a lunar
eclipse that is visible over most of North America, Europe and Africa. In
the U.S.
On 6/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
You never know.
Last time Cotty and I went together somewhere...
Thankfully the surgery was successful.
Cheers,
Cotty
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Boris,
When Outlook Express goes wrong, it goes very very wrong, but when it works
its fine. So after trying half a dozen others I've come back to OE. But I am
better prepared for the inevitable disasters. Plaxo is good at what it does
and saves a lot of hard work.
Don
___
Dr E D F
I find it interesting that your m100/2.8 seems to be one of the sharpest of your
longer lenses there, contrary to what some have said about that lens on this
list. By the shadows, it was taken quite a bit earlier, or latter than the other
shots in that group. Is there a color cast problem (gray
I think its more likely that different eye/brain sets might see the same
colour very slightly shifted, one way or the other, on the spectrum. One
person might see it a little redder or bluer than another. But, as we
decided before, one can never really know. Its not the same as colour
blindness.
After proclaiming on the list that I would not buy a DSLR until Pentax
came out with a full-frame model...my *ist D arrived yesterday. I would
be chagrined if I were not feeling so enabled. Or as Ron Ziegler
(Nixon's press secretary) once said during Watergate, All previous
statements are
It's considered impolite to point that out here in Virgina.
Steve (from Massachusetts)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/06/03 12:31AM
On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 16:30:41 -0500, Steve Desjardins wrote:
Stonewall Jackson is actually buried in that cemetery [...]
Yeah, but his arm is buried at, I think, the
On 6 Nov 2003, Frits [ISO-8859-1] Wüthrich wrote:
USA pricing for the *ist D:
$1349.99 :
http://www.ccicameracity.com/brproduct.asp?ccode=pistd
$1399.00:
http://www.cameraunlimited.com/webstores/www/stores_app/Browse_Item_Details.asp?Store_id=101page_id=23Item_ID=2920
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, frank theriault wrote:
Everytime I walk out of the house with a camera around my neck, I play a
little game. I guess the exposure, set the camera accordingly, and then
see how it meters. I'm rarely off by more than a stop; usually I'm withing
1/2 stop.
I did exactly
This brings up a question I have always wanted to ask -- related to
the fact that my own two eyes see colors slightly differently! It's
easiest to see in skin tones, but if I close one eye and then the
other, it's obvious to me that my right eye sees a slightly warmer
or redder rendition than
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:24:39 +
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(b) a place to stay - which could be the back of somebody;s van..
There's a movie in this.
Cheers,
Cotty
Deliverance?
:)
Revealing my ignorance here, but what exactly is a 'game of Chinese boxes'?
Inquisitively,
Ryan
- Original Message -
From: Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 1:31 AM
Subject: Re: Colour fidelity low-light AF of *ist-D
Hi,
Well, NPC's fiber optic bundle would be one way of fitting a digital back on a
non-interchangeable back camera. However, one only needs to look at the prices
of NPC's Polaroid backs for 35mm cameras to see that that is not a cheap
solution. Pentax could probably make a dedicated 645 digital
Along with the starkistdee I bought a Lexar 1 GB 40X compact card, which
comes with its own USB reader. Therein lies a tale.
A slip in the box says to install Image Rescue from the included cd. No
cd in the box. The web site says to install the driver from the cd.
Again, no driver cd. Count 1
Thanks for the info Joe and Bruce(how many beer do i owe you now,Bruceg)
Ok,i'll try that with the IF button.Vic touched on it when i meet up with him,but we
went
over quite a bit
in a short time,it was probably mentioned and duly forgottong
So in the normal area of shooting,say in sun or
Hell, my left eye sees colors differently (more blue) than my right eye, how
could anyone think that two different people would see them the same?
--
Dr E D F Williams wrote:
I think its more likely that different eye/brain sets might see the same
colour very slightly shifted, one way or the
You folks work it out.
It'll be a while for me.
CRB
I've never noticed any color difference between my eyes, and in a simple test
now, also don't.
One has a lot of floaters, though. If that helps.
Hehehe.
Marnie aka Doe
--Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But I don't want to have to do a lot of post processing.
I.E. Have to sharpen every image I shoot. Some I'd just like, bang, shoot,
open in Elements and print. I often do that now from scanning slides. I
mean,
sometimes I sharpen or edit, but not always.
It is pretty
Do keep us informed on that one...
May save some of us a headache...
keith whaley
Joseph Tainter wrote:
Along with the starkistdee I bought a Lexar 1 GB 40X compact card, which
comes with its own USB reader. Therein lies a tale.
A slip in the box says to install Image Rescue from the
Plaxo is distributed by Verisign . . .
It's safe and secure.
There are those who would feel that those two statements are
mutually self-contradictory.
Given the recent furore about their (mis-)management of top-level
domain registries, giving Verisign any sort of handle to your
address book
With the camera set a +1 sharpness, I've been quite pleased without further
sharpening. I import via PIM, crop to whatever size I'm printing, and print
on an Epson 925 using the custom option of no color adjustment. Prints
come out very good with colors exactly the way the camera recorded them.
You have a choice then:
Buy a Foveon DSLR or set sharpening to +1 in camera.
Another way would be to use IRFanView, set up a batch processing
configuration which does whatever resizing you want for your
'thoughtless' printing and applies a standard USM at the same time.
Then you would have
I still think it should be called, D'gang.
--
Robert Gonzalez wrote:
Congrats Joe! You've joined the *hood. :)
I just coined the term since there is already a Brotherhood (6x7), and
a Little Brotherhood (LX).
Have fun.
Cheers,
rg
Joseph Tainter wrote:
After proclaiming on the list that
No perceptible color changes, but a faint (thin) cataract on the left
cornea acts much like one of my old Takumars... Slightly yellow.
Normally, it's not noticeable. Not with both eyes open.
With just the left eye open, I can't _see_ the color bias, but my vision
is much less sharp. Hardly
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do all *ist D users have access to NASA labs? That's fine!
Dario
You know I've been reading reviews of the 10D (and the *istD).
Well, mainly studying the reviews at dpreview more. I hadn't really
looked in depth yet. And complaints about the
It probably needs a CLA. Has it been done recently? If so, the
problem is elsewhere.
Andre
--
With the camera set a +1 sharpness, I've been quite pleased without further
sharpening. I import via PIM, crop to whatever size I'm printing, and print
on an Epson 925 using the custom option of no color adjustment. Prints
come out very good with colors exactly the way the camera recorded them.
I hadn't really realized how much legitimate (or maybe illegitimate) scamming
goes on. Especially on high ticket items like camera equipment.
What you described is clearly illegitimate scamming. But yes, it is
rife; just check out the feedback about the lowball advertisers in
any photo
chris posted:
On the subject of weird eyes, a friend of mine can tell which eye she is
looking out of. I'm not sure if they're spaced further apart than normal,
or if she just has trouble focusing them properly, but she says that she
sees things from two slightly different perspectives...
Joseph Tainter wrote:
I'm still going to call it the starkistdee ...
Wouldn't Charlie be
easier?
Gone from the schedule page ( http://pug.komkon.org/general/themes.html ),
what is it?
Regards,
Ziggy
The problem with in-camera sharpening, Marie, is that for best quality you need
to use different sharpening depending upon the final size of the image.
Now on low-end cameras the designers can pretty much set that for 4x6 prints.
But where should they set it on high-end cameras where the user
It's an interesting thought, but what I perceive to be blue might actually
what you perceive to be green. Imagine people around you who go thru life
seeing 'blue' vegetables (though it seems perfectly normal to them *because*
that's what they always known the label 'green' to refer to). And how
This is easy to try, just download a full size *ist D file from
somewhere (they are all over the net by now) and print one and see
what you think.
alex
Good idea!
Marnie aka Doe
Most likely either dirt, or a slightly bent linkage in the camera. Any decent
repair shop ought to be able to fix it easily.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Just took an MX out for some exercise and the shutter relase jammed
and became sticky :-(( Any suggestions on what I might check to fix
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Nah, not Brad, but The Who.
The what?
Cheers,
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I still think it should be called, D'gang.
Full-starr'd knights? (with apologies to Walt Whitman)
On 6/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
(b) a place to stay - which could be the back of somebody;s van..
There's a movie in this.
Cheers,
Cotty
Deliverance?
Silence of the Lambs.
Cheers,
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After proclaiming on the list that I would not buy a DSLR until Pentax
came out with a full-frame model...my *ist D arrived yesterday.
[snip]
Way to go Joe!
Give us an update after the weekend mate.
Cheers,
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Some of you who are dabbling in digital imaging may already be familiar with
Hamrick Software's excellent VueScan flatbed and negative/slide scanner
software (www.hamrick.com). VueScan also supports the RAW formats of quite a
few DSLRs. I've been in contact with Ed Hamrick, and have confirmed that
On 6/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
I'm still going to call it the starkistdee or Sexist D, though, because
I think the name is really, really stupid. Okay, it's not as stupid as
naming a camera Rebel.
I think this is totally in keeping with the ethos behind naming the
camera the *ist D.
Clouds.
zoomshot wrote:
Gone from the schedule page ( http://pug.komkon.org/general/themes.html ),
what is it?
On 6/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
Hell, my left eye sees colors differently (more blue) than my right eye, how
could anyone think that two different people would see them the same?
Hey Tom, if you went to one of those retro 3-D movies of the Blob or
whatever, you wouldn't need the
Or along graywolf's lines:
D'Hood, like I'm from D'Hood
John Francis wrote:
I still think it should be called, D'gang.
Full-starr'd knights? (with apologies to Walt Whitman)
I have a Pentax ZX-5N. Any suggestions (or links to reviews) for a decent
teleconverter, price range preferably $100 or less?
Maris
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, danilo wrote:
btw, how many of you use linux for graphic manipulation issues?
ciao
Danilo.
I only seem to use Linux or OpenBSD these days...
I use the Gimp (www.gimp.org) for image manipulation, and X-Sane to do my
scanning. I also use imagemagick
On 6/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
I've never noticed any color difference between my eyes, and in a simple
test
now, also don't.
One has a lot of floaters, though. If that helps.
ROTFL. Marnie, you kill me.
Sorry folks.
Cheers,
Cotty
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Okay, this is kind of weird, but instead of getting a MX to stay hanging
around this list (being a semi-Canon defector), I've been thinking about a
Spotmatic. Screwmount lenses also will fit on my Elan 7e, so not so weird as all
that. A Zenitar fisheye would work on both. And I already have the
{Sigh!} It had to happen, I'm just surprised it lasted as long as it did,
for my massive outlay of £12 back in the mid 70s. But my tripod demised
today. One leg gave way and the LX on top fell gently sideways into my
jacket pocket!
Anyway, my needs for a tripod have changed since last time I was
- Original Message -
From: danilo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
btw, how many of you use linux for graphic manipulation issues?
ciao
Danilo.
I use the Gimp on Linux or Photoshop on Windows depending on my mood and
where I am.
Christian
On 6/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
Nah, not Brad, but The Who.
The what?
I don't know
Response at the end:
Okay, this is kind of weird, but instead of getting a MX to stay hanging
around this list (being a semi-Canon defector), I've been thinking about a
Spotmatic. Screwmount lenses also will fit on my Elan 7e, so not so weird as
all
that. A Zenitar fisheye would work on
-Original Message-
From: John Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 6/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
Nah, not Brad, but The Who.
The what?
I don't know
Huh?
tv
I would get the II. The F allows open aperture metering only if you use SMC
Takumar lenses. The meter on the F always is on. You turn it off using
the lens cap. You can use older Super Takumars and SMC Takumars on the II.
Metering is stop down. Of course, there are lots of other M42 mount
http://212.187.14.19/spotmatic/cameras.htm
This is a site its all m42 mount stuff.
Also PPRO site at www.whitemetal.com
has a list of many m42 cameras
I have the SP 500 and a Spotmatic 1000 and 5-6 lenses.They are great cameras.
Dave
Okay, this is kind of
Spotmatics also go fairly cheaply on ebay.
But there are different versions. Right off the bat, I notice a II and a F.
Which would be the best to get? Or is there another version that would be
even better?
I'd go with the Spotmatic F - it's the successor to the Spotmatic II,
and the
Rollei even developed and presented a prototype back for the 3003 in 1987,
with 350.000 pixels. But then, before digital technology really took off,
they had to discontinue the camera. Rollei was either too late or too early
most of the times.
Sven
-Ursprungliche Nachricht-
Von: graywolf
Vuescan: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I just send him an email with the request.
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 19:31, Brian Dipert wrote:
Some of you who are dabbling in digital imaging may already be familiar with
Hamrick Software's excellent VueScan flatbed and negative/slide scanner
software
test
I remember noticing this maybe 15 years ago. I just thought that I was
getting old, or that one eye was irritated. Apparently everyone has a
dominant eye, mine is my left eye, and it appears cooler than my right
eye, which does seem to have a noticeable warmer tint to it.
rg
graywolf wrote:
Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nah, not Brad, but The Who.
How 'bout Mafud?
;-)
--
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Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com
Collin Brendemuehl wrote:
You folks work it out.
It'll be a while for me.
The pixies.
Gray wolf wrote:
Of
course since the MX was designed to my specs I would be a churl to switch.
?
You big honcho?
Re input -- Probably the F, then. IIRC, the meter on the K-1000 was always
on. The lens cap turned it off. So I'm used to that. Also, thanks, Dave.
Marnie aka Doe
I knew when my lab moved two doors down from my local photo store
(Nikon/Pentax - where I got my 67 from) that I would be in trouble.
I just got back from dropping off some enlargements at the lab and had
to stop in the store. Obviously, my main reason to look was to see if
the *ist D was in -
Thanks Tom, glad you liked it.
Regards
Albano
Tom wrote:
Jeez guys, nice job.
In particular -
Bug by
A Stationary Moment. by Mike
Second Honeymoon - Amita
Ewelina and Pawel by Maciej - I don't know if you
were trying or
not, but this shot has a great combination of modern
and classic
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