don't use it when the sun is in the picture: you may get a lot of flare.
mishka
On 7/26/05, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I traded my SMC crystal ball for an L. The future seems less cloudy now...
:-)
Christian
Godfrey wrote:
I suspect Contax will likely be back with another CZG licensee, or
CZG subsidiary.
I wouldn't bet on it.
Pål
Pål wrote:
Pentax are adressing this issue and will reduce the number of digital PS
to three models. After all, it is the PS market that has bursted. They
will make SLR's their main business (again); after all, thats where the
profit is at present.
OK, we've heard that they said that. I
- Original Message -
From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
OK, we've heard that they said that. I guess that means after the Optio
60 then... I'm not sure what they mean by three models
instead of the
mischaracterization/misepresentation that is occuring.
Tom C.
From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 01:40:16 +0200
Herb wrote:
Pentax can't afford too much
no, they will be worth more.
Herb
- Original Message -
From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
In a couple of years time, when Pentax have close down their image/camera
division
- Original Message -
From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
No one is saying Pentax is doomed. That seems to be the words that some
seem to be trying to stick in some of our mouths
:
no, they will be worth more.
Herb
- Original Message - From: Pål Jensen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
In a couple of years time, when Pentax have close down their image/
camera division or is bankrupt
you're assuming i would sell within 2 years of them going belly up.
Herb...
- Original Message -
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
Um, not immediately. You might have to wait
...
- Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
Um, not immediately. You might have to wait for the collector
community to rev up if Pentax were to pass out of existence
Herb wrote:
Pentax hasn't demonstrated that it knows one of the simplest business rules,
make sure you know who your loved ones are (core market) protect that
market. Pentax ought to be making a camera that sells to Pentax enthusiasts
who have been buying lots of those lenses that we all
: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
Apart from the fact their core market and Pentax enthusiast aren't
necessarily the same, I agree. What I can't understand, however, is why
this criticism comes now in 2005 (I whined about the same thing 10 years
ago. Now I'm
On 7/26/05 8:26 PM, Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i'm not selling any of my Pentax equipment to finance whatever i get because
i don't need to. i just won't use it as much because it isn't able to do the
job that i need from a camera system. meeting 80% of my needs isn't good
enough.
: K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax Discuss pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
This, I agree and more level-headed. I am sure more than 90% of people
here
think the same way, myself included.
It just did not come across
On 7/26/05 9:49 PM, Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
After all, a higher end SLR typically sell 1/10 or less the quantity of entry
level models;
Exactly.
Here's what Canon are saying. It might show some of their mindset.
[To tell the truth, we (Canon) still do not know the size and the
- Original Message -
From: K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But I just finished polishing up my cloudy crystal ball and now I can see
@#!?*%.
I traded my SMC crystal ball for an L. The future seems less cloudy now...
:-)
Christian
On 7/26/05 10:11 PM, Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i never noticed before
today, but Pentax has only 1700 employees. encouraging early retirement for
300 is close to 20%.
I thought Pentax was a holding company and the actual consolidated number of
employees is over 5,000 (still not
On 24/7/05, K.Takeshita, discombobulated, unleashed:
I do wish grandma had a hairy ball.
Mark!
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_
Herb Chong wrote:
being too conservative is why (Pentax is ) having the problems they are
having now.
Pentax has to be conservative. They have limited resources and can't
afford to make a mistake. They can't develop 10 products hoping one will
make them a lot of money and recoup the costs
://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho
- Original Message -
From: K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax Discuss pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 2:04 AM
Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
On 7/24/05 6:06 PM, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
I am sure the list
Paul wrote:
I agree. Very interesting and informative. However, I don't think
Pentax has a large studio pro market any more.
I don't think Pentax ever catered to the studio shooters. Pentax MF cameras
have mostly been used by outdoor photographers.
Pål
Raimo wrote:
The Philips sensor had the same difficulties in the Pentax camera as well -
Actually, it didn't..
Pål
Herb wrote:
when you run a business, you stay in business only by doing what
consistently makes money and dropping what doesn't. if those 40% of all
Japanese medium format photographers buy as many 645Ds as Pentax hopes, the
camera will make money and be profitable at something resembling
I just can't stop reading what you write, Ken, many thanks for taking
the time. A few questions.
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005, K.Takeshita wrote:
it, in spite of the challenge, simply because they made a head start. But
watching the demise of Kyocera/Contax, the killing of the project was
probably
A lot of the NY fashion photogs used Pentax 6x7, perhaps close to half
of them. Some of the PAs I've talked to used to hate working with those
guys, because they were afraid of misloading the 6x7.
Paul
On Jul 25, 2005, at 7:33 AM, Pål Jensen wrote:
Paul wrote:
I agree. Very interesting and
-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
Raimo wrote:
The Philips sensor had the same difficulties in the Pentax camera as
well -
Actually, it didn't..
Pål
On 25 Jul 2005 at 16:43, Raimo K wrote:
That´s what I heard from Finnish representatives.
And how could same sensor have noise in one camera and not in another?
Poor implementation I guess, most CCDs are a hybrid analogue/digital devices so
don't exhibit fixed performance.
Rob Studdert
at:
http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho
- Original Message - From: Pål Jensen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
Raimo wrote:
The Philips sensor had the same difficulties in the Pentax camera as
well
On 7/25/05 9:49 AM, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Poor implementation I guess
It appears so.
I knew for the fact that Pentax solved the problem when Kyocera could not,
because a well-known Pentax person disclosed that Kyocera approached Pentax
for help. This was just before Kyocera
pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
On 7/25/05 9:49 AM, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Poor implementation I guess
It appears so.
I knew for the fact that Pentax solved the problem when Kyocera could not,
because a well
On Jul 25, 2005, at 9:53 AM, Raimo K wrote:
The Contax brand is dying - film and digital - the last one to die
will be
the 645 in December, according to PopPhoto.
The Contax brand isn't dying. Contax as a label is owned by Carl
Zeiss Group, and licensed to Kyocera since the mid-1970s;
On 7/25/05 7:48 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
it, in spite of the challenge, simply because they made a head start. But
watching the demise of Kyocera/Contax, the killing of the project was
probably prudent and right.
What do you think ar ethe chances of saying the same
Message -
From: Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 7:02 AM
Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
Pentax has to be conservative. They have limited resources and can't
afford to make a mistake. They can't develop 10 products hoping one will
make
- Original Message -
From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 7:32 AM
Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
I'm not sure the 645D is meant to make money. Theres isn't a single slr
system in existence were every item is profitable
Kodak makes the sensor for the 645D.
Herb...
- Original Message -
From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax Discuss pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 7:48 AM
Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
making the FF DSLR. Now the sensor cost is coming down
On 7/22/05 4:43 AM, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK I hear all you say and I can appreciate the company philosophy but how does
the 645D fit into it, it's hardly a conservative move. A camera to replace the
*ist D six months ago surely wouldn't have been too much of an imposition on
On 24/7/05, K.Takeshita, discombobulated, unleashed:
Besides PDML, I only watch lists in Japan, so my info and observations are
naturally biased toward what's happening in Japan, which may or may not
apply directly to the rest of the world.
[big snip]
Ken, thanks for taking the time to write
I agree. Very interesting and informative. However, I don't think
Pentax has a large studio pro market any more. Most of the studio pros
I've encountered have already switched to Hassy digital or Canon 1DS
Mark II. The number shooting film has decreased dramatically. So Pentax
may already
]
To: Pentax Discuss pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
4. I believe the answer to why P create and market 645D first is rather
simple. I believe it has far less to do with their technical ability to
produce larger sensor SLR
On 7/24/05 6:06 PM, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I believe it has far less to do with their technical ability to
produce larger sensor SLR.
At the risk of being redundant, I might add one more point.
I am sure the list members here remember the infamous MZ-D. If Pentax
actually
On 7/24/05 6:33 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
However, I don't think
Pentax has a large studio pro market any more. Most of the studio pros
I've encountered have already switched to Hassy digital or Canon 1DS
Mark II. The number shooting film has decreased dramatically. So
On 7/24/05 6:58 PM, Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the danger is that then medium format will be the ONLY camera market they
will be in at the end of 2 years, having no longer anything competitive in
the 35mm-type body range because they can't sell enough to make any money at
it. also,
ken, thanks a lot! you are making too much sense for this list.
best,
mishka
On 7/24/05, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
After this, I will shut up :-);
My thoughts in-line.
Ken
On 7/24/05 6:58 PM, Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the danger is that then medium format will be the ONLY camera market they
will be in at the end of 2 years,
Where is the fact on which your opinion is based?
also, what makes
ken,
nevermind the sky is falling remarks. there are a few pissed people here
who wish pentax were canon. like a saying goes, if grandma were grandpa,
she would have hairy balls. i think what P is doing makes a lot of sense
(although it doesn't really serve *my* needs). and thanks again for
On 7/24/05 10:09 PM, Mishka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
nevermind the sky is falling remarks. there are a few pissed people here
who wish pentax were canon. like a saying goes, if grandma were grandpa,
she would have hairy balls. i think what P is doing makes a lot of sense
(although it doesn't
- Original Message -
From: K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax Discuss pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
the danger is that then medium format will be the ONLY camera market they
will be in at the end of 2 years
@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
Hmm. If you seriously believe that there are cameras/lenses better suited
to your needs, Rob, why haven't you sold off your Pentax gear and
invested in them?
I guess I don't understand fealty to a camera brand. I
selling them to buy Canon equipment is
enough to buy a second 1DsMk2 to go with the first one.
Herb
- Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
Hmm. If you seriously
Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
Did you buy them all new? The prices for most second hand Pentax lenses
have been steadily rising. I could sell many of my lenses at a profit.
E.R.N. Reed wrote:
Tom Reese wrote:
Pål Jensen wrote:
According to Pentax the *ist name is reserved (thank God)
for what they consider entry level; typically ones first dslr.
If they are to be believed high-end bodies will not have
that stupid
name. Lets hope they don't
On 22 Jul 2005 at 7:27, Malcolm Smith wrote:
Well, given that no matter how many 'bells and whistles' are added to the
camera and people are still not happy, I'd say it was odds on they will. It
all
seems strange to me as a happy owner of an LX and an *ist D as they are. If
you
want
On 21 Jul 2005 at 20:28, K.Takeshita wrote:
Yes, Pentax has been slow, and that is their most sin. Technically, they
have everything needed to produce a pro level DSLR.
The problem with Pentax, and it probably comes from their size, is that they
are
timid in making a bold move in the
Rob Studdert wrote:
It's about film, not bells and whistles. I want a DSLR that
I'm confident will provide me with the equivalent if not
better than the quality that I was used to using top end 35mm
film bodies and expensive film. The *ist D isn't there yet
though I assume that you know
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, keithw wrote:
Their buying of the *istD started out very slowly, but all of a sudden, it
seemed that 70% or more of the regulars had them!
You what? Where did you find that figure from?
Kostas
Kostas,
After I bought mine in November 2003, I kept track of all the list members who
confessed to buying before the List. :-)
A couple of months later my count passed 110, and I gave up on it. Many of the
regulars were on my list already then.
Jostein
Quoting Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL
Jostein wrote:
Kostas,
After I bought mine in November 2003, I kept track of all the list members who
confessed to buying before the List. :-)
A couple of months later my count passed 110, and I gave up on it. Many of the
regulars were on my list already then.
... and I bought mine after
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, keithw wrote:
Their buying of the *istD started out very slowly, but all of a
sudden, it seemed that 70% or more of the regulars had them!
You what? Where did you find that figure from?
Kostas
Like the largest bulk of any published
On 22 Jul 2005 at 10:23, Malcolm Smith wrote:
I do indeed still use film and thus I have a choice. You have MF for a high
quality image capture. What it really comes down to is wanting it all in one
package, inconvenient as it is, you already have it, albeit in two different
forms of
Rob Studdert wrote:
I guess the very bottom line for me is that it isn't just
inconvenient, it's getting difficult and becoming limiting
having to tote and juggle two systems, plus quality film and
processing is now a significant cost. My frustration is
compounded by the fact that I'm
My $0.02:
I might consider spending $2500-3000 (by today's USD) but I can safely
say that I would not spend $5000-6000 on any DSLR, big sensor or not.
So a really high end, expensive Med format DSLR is of no use to me. What
I would like are the current D/DS features with a somewhat bigger sensor
- Original Message -
From: keithw
Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
It was amusing to see those most reticent to succumb to Pentax' first
offering of a DSLR, finally give in. And to listen to the pleased comments
after they did. g
I recall calling the istD a crippled whore
True. I called it a useless toy. Then a local Canon shooter showed me
what you could do with 6 megapixel RAW images and PSCS. I was hooked.
Paul
On Jul 22, 2005, at 4:44 PM, William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: keithw
Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
It was amusing
On 22/7/05, Pål Jensen, discombobulated, unleashed:
Look. There will be a higher end K-mount DSLR from Pentax next year. If
you can wait that long; wait. If not, switch.
I'm caught in a wormhole - I heard this at the turn of the century.
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) | People,
by other manufacturers do you mean, canons? all one of them?
i am not aware of anyone else setting standards in 35mm dslrs.
mishka
On 7/22/05, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm whining (no comments) but it's just difficult having to watch other
manufacturers delivering products that
On 22 Jul 2005 at 22:56, Mishka wrote:
by other manufacturers do you mean, canons? all one of them?
i am not aware of anyone else setting standards in 35mm dslrs.
Do you seriously believe that there is only one DSLR from one manufacturer that
exceeds the capabilities of any one of Pentax's
On Jul 22, 2005, at 8:00 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:
by other manufacturers do you mean, canons? all one of them?
i am not aware of anyone else setting standards in 35mm dslrs.
Do you seriously believe that there is only one DSLR from one
manufacturer that
exceeds the capabilities of any one
nikon has a couple of models that exceed it too, but i wouldn't
call it setting the standards -- it seems to play catch up, as everybody else.
who else? minolta? oly? sigma? they probably are quite good, but hardly
way ahead of pentax (if ahead at all).
in all honesty, i feel pentax is right in
which century?
mishka
On 7/22/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Look. There will be a higher end K-mount DSLR from Pentax next year. If
I'm caught in a wormhole - I heard this at the turn of the century.
Cheers,
Cotty
On 22 Jul 2005 at 20:08, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
Hmm. If you seriously believe that there are cameras/lenses better
suited to your needs, Rob, why haven't you sold off your Pentax gear
and invested in them?
Two very basic reasons, lots of cash tied in lenses and not residing in the
On 21/7/05, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed:
I have had the cash under my mattress (I put it there so it doesn't burn
a hole
in my pocket, plus it's winter here) ready to slam down on the virtual
camera
shop counter for a nice high spec Pentax DSLR for quite a while. I don't
know
how
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, Herb Chong wrote:
well, everyone seems to be in on it then, since individual companies seem to
forecast around the same total, as do industry groups, at about 3.6M total
for the coming year.
shrug Forecast is forecast - i.e. guess work. Maybe an educated guess,
but
Rob Studdert wrote on 21.07.05 3:17:
You have a very positive outlook, that's nice but I'm betting you're wrong.
Hi Rob :-)
Pål is not that wrong. I remember an official report from Japan where indeed
Pentax had about 40% of MF market share in this country. On the other side
they had about 10%
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, Herb Chong wrote:
they didn't want cheaper access to the Sony sensors they use in their
cameras? how smart is that?
Depends on whether they are setting up their own FAB.
Kostas
On 21 Jul 2005 at 9:42, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:
Rob Studdert wrote on 21.07.05 3:17:
You have a very positive outlook, that's nice but I'm betting you're wrong.
Hi Rob :-)
Pål is not that wrong. I remember an official report from Japan where indeed
Pentax had about 40% of MF market
forecast is something to look back on and see if the company knew what it
was doing.
Herb
- Original Message -
From: Lawrence Kwan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 3:34 AM
Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
shrug Forecast is forecast
Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
Pål is not that wrong. I remember an official report from Japan where
indeed
Pentax had about 40% of MF market share in this country. On the other side
they had about 10% of Japanese 35 mm SLR market. It was about one year
ago,
so I think not much has
Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
Even for auto industry, where much much more money and thousands of jobs
is at stake, and the market condition is much more stable (not quickly
expanding), they can still get the forecast and projected sales *totally*
wrong.
From DPReview.com:
Pentax SLR Talk
Subject (OT sort of :)) NIKON profit drops 33%.
Posted by jeffkrol [CLICK FOR PROFILE]
Date/Time 1:02:37 AM, Thursday, July 21, 2005 (GMT)
From that International thingy
Operating profit, or sales minus the cost of goods sold and
- Original Message -
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message -
From: Pål Jensen
Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
If they can sell only 20K of DSLR's in the hottest market segment, how
many do you think it can sell of the one above?
I already have
On 21/7/05, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed:
I have had the cash under my mattress (I put it there so it doesn't burn
a hole
in my pocket, plus it's winter here) ready to slam down on the virtual
camera
shop counter for a nice high spec Pentax DSLR for quite a while. I don't
know
Cristian wrote:
I already have an istD. I don't see a Ds or Dl in my future.
If they want me to buy another DSLR from them, they have to do better than
that.
BINGO!
BINGO indeed. I don't even own a DSLR. They need to do much better than the
*istD's in order to tempt me...
Pål
WHAT??!??
Pal, the optimist (which is a good thing, BTW), who predicts that Pentax
will deliver the products we all desire, hasn't purchased one of Pentax's
current best offerings?
Who are you speaking for then?
Tom C.
BINGO indeed. I don't even own a DSLR. They need to do much better
- Original Message -
From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
WHAT??!??
Pal, the optimist (which is a good thing, BTW), who predicts that Pentax
will deliver the products we all desire
Oh, the irony of it all.. Pal, the champion for all things Pentax,
never has anything good to say about the actual products.
That's just not true. Pal is responsible for some of my enablements. His
glowing lens comments have influenced some of my purchasing decisions.
Tom Reese
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Christian wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
WHAT??!??
Pal, the optimist (which is a good thing, BTW), who predicts that Pentax
to purchase?
Tom C.
From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:28:34 +0100 (BST)
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Christian wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Tom C [EMAIL
Well you can't blame a guy for being connoiseur, can you?
Isn't that why we're here in the first place?
;-)
Jostein
- Original Message -
From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
You guys
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 15:57, Christian wrote:
Oh, the irony of it all.. Pal, the champion for all things Pentax,
never has anything good to say about the actual products. I, on the other
hand, love the past products, but was tempted by the dark side due to lack
of (in my crystal ball)
Christian:
Oh, the irony of it all.. Pal, the champion for all things Pentax,
never has anything good to say about the actual products.
Huh? I've spend countless of post defending the MZ-S. The LX and 645's well. I
also like Spotmatics. K-series cameras. MX etc.
The only Pentax slr
Tom wrote:
The idea that they will produce a high-end DSLR that satisfies those having
that longing, does not seem to be based on precedent, according to his
words.
Maybe I'm thick, but I just don't get it. Pentax have not released a high-end
DSLR. Thats a fact. Pentax do claim that they
Tom wrote:
The point is this... How can Pal argue and assure us that Pentax is capable
of/will produce the high end DSLR products we want, when they haven't
produced one that he's willing to purchase?
Huh? I've no interest in entry level cameras; digital or not. I haven't bought
the film
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 16:41, Tom C wrote:
The point is this... How can Pal argue and assure us that Pentax is capable
of/will produce the high end DSLR products we want, when they haven't
produced one that he's willing to purchase?
Won't the 645 Digital high end enough?
I dunno. I don't work with crystal balls nor do I consider
photographic equipment as a futures investment. I just buy what works
to make the photographs I want to make. The Nikon, Leica, Canon,
Hasselblad, Minolta, Olympus, etc, gear I owned in the past was great
and did a good job. The
On 21/7/05, Pål Jensen, discombobulated, unleashed:
Huh? I've no interest in entry level cameras
The *ist D is an entry level camera?
Strange but true.
Cheers,
Cotty
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På 21. jul. 2005 kl. 21.59 skrev Cotty:
On 21/7/05, Pål Jensen, discombobulated, unleashed:
Huh? I've no interest in entry level cameras
The *ist D is an entry level camera?
Strange but true.
True. I´ve just got back my *istD after having it repaired. It didn´t
stand the standard
From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The only Pentax slr I've owned that I never liked was the Z-1p.
Pål
Why did you like the others and not the Z-1p? Like those you mentioned, it
did what it was suopposed to do, and considering flexibility, often did it
better.
Lewis
: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
- Original Message -
From: Bill Owens Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
BTW, the latest issue of Consumer Reports magazine rates the Fui Aladdin
kiosk considerably better than the Kodak Picture Maker.
What criteria are they using for their rating
: Joaquim Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 20:42:02 +
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 16:41, Tom C wrote:
The point is this... How can Pal argue and assure us that Pentax is
capable
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Tom C wrote:
Well sure... but alot of us put our money where our mouth is. :)
To date, Pentax hasn't produced a DSLR that even tempts him, quote They need
to do much better than the *istD's in order to tempt me
The idea that they will produce a high-end DSLR that
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