[Phono-L] Thought this was interesting...

2006-12-24 Thread Ron L'Herault
Try a competent musical instrument repair shop. My trombone guy did a nice job on my Edison 14 inch bras and steel horn and a friend's large all brass horn. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Albert Sent: Sunday,

[Phono-L] RE: What is this?

2006-12-24 Thread diamondisk...@aol.com
I once owned a very tired LP console. Mine was just the smallest model. The quality of cabinetry workmanship was not anywhere near what it was on the earlier machines. Many little pieces from the legs had fallen off, because the legs were not solid, but merely glued together things. If the machi

[Phono-L] Re: What is this? (Edison Long Play Machine)

2006-12-24 Thread Bruce Mercer
There was certainly no design flaw in the legs on this machine and no, they were not detachable. These cases were solid as granite, having had three of them, I know that for a fact. The sad thing is that somebody thought they would "modernize" the case or some other equally brilliant idea. Bruce

[Phono-L] Straightening and polishing brass horns

2006-12-24 Thread Scott Colgrove
Hi Bob I too am using an instrument repair shop here in Montana. The shop is called "Flathead Woodwind and Brass" in Kalipsell - is that who you are using? The guy does a fantastic job. At first he wouldn't work on the horns due to their age and lack of experience. Now he looks forward to t

[Phono-L] Re: Sex Selling Crapophones

2006-12-24 Thread Graham Newton
"Mario Frazzetto" said... On the subject: Sex Selling Crapophones > They say that sex sells, but does sex help to sell crapophones? (they are > still there) You bet... if the lady is included! Great legs and cleavage... and the crap-o-phone doesn't have those! ... Graham Newton -- Audio

[Phono-L] Straightening and polishing brass horns

2006-12-24 Thread Walt
I am in the wrong end of town (being in Gettysburg, PA), but the cost of $60/horn that Scott mentions for removing dings and such is about what I am accustomed to paying. I also use a local musical shop, "Noteworthy Music" just down the street in Gettysburg proper. I know other phonograph collecto

[Phono-L] Straightening and polishing brass horns

2006-12-24 Thread tom jordan
I use Reiman's Music here in Des Moines. They have a guy who has been with them for 23 years. His work is amazing. I took the horn from my Columbia AH to him. The bell was mashed badly and the horn body had several dents in it. He removed all of the dents and made the bell look like it had nev

[Phono-L] straightening and polishing brass horns

2006-12-24 Thread Bob or JoAnn Maffit
Peter: I haven't had very many horns to repair. I have taken 2 or 3 Edison witch hats and a horn for a Victor E and had him improve the bells by removing the dents and polishing the brass. The larger black Edison horns, usually found on the Edison Standard or Home, were straitened but not paint

[Phono-L] phono-l mugs!

2006-12-24 Thread Daniel Melvin
I received my 2006 and 2007 phono-l mugs over the weekend and I have to say they are very nice. It's a great way to help Loran out with this labor of love he provides at no cost to anyone. So I say, if you drink coffee or tea and like this list, buy the mugs! Merry Christmas! Dan Melvin From l

[Phono-L] phono-l mugs!

2006-12-24 Thread Jeffry Young, D.O.
Hi Dan, How's the great Northwest? I must have missed an e-mail? Are there pictures of these mugs anywhere? How much? Where do we send for them? Thanks, and Merry Christmas, Jeff -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Dan

[Phono-L] phono-l mugs!

2006-12-24 Thread Daniel Melvin
Hi Jeff, The NW is doing OK. Typical winter rain and snow. Loran posted a link to the phono-l store that has the mugs. He gets some of the funds for each one sold. http://www.cafepress.com/oldcrank Merry Christmas! Dan - Original Message - From: "Jeffry Young, D.O." To: "Antique Pho

[Phono-L] Wanted: Edison DD double reproducer holder

2006-12-24 Thread Brown's Antique Phonographs
I'm in search of one of the double reproducer holders for Edison DD machines - these were found on the LP machines. Anybody have one they want to part with? Drop me an email if you've got one for sale. Thank you, Matt Brown

[Phono-L] Wanted: Edison DD double reproducer holder

2006-12-24 Thread diamondisk...@aol.com
Didn't the LP machines have holders for three reproducers ? Randy Minor

[Phono-L] Wanted: Edison DD double reproducer holder

2006-12-24 Thread Peter Fraser
nope, just two. On Dec 12, 2006, at 7:51 PM, diamondisk...@aol.com wrote: > Didn't the LP machines have holders for three reproducers ? > > Randy Minor > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > Phono-L@oldcrank.org > > Phono-L Archive > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org

[Phono-L] Wanted: Edison DD double reproducer holder

2006-12-24 Thread diamondisk...@aol.com
I had three reproducers with the LP machine I owned: a standard one, an LP one, and an Edisonic one. I guess one of them had to be mounted on the machine, and the holders were for the other two which were not being used at any given time. I just had my 54th birthday, and memory is becoming in

[Phono-L] It's time to vote for EDSON!!!

2006-12-24 Thread srsel...@aol.com
This article from today's Philadelphia Inquirer will fill you in. You can vote on line. As we say in South Philly: "Vote Early AND Often!". Steve Posted on Wed, Dec. 13, 2006 Field narrows for first class in N.J. Hall of Fame Springsteen? Thomas Edison? By Tom Hester Jr. Associ

[Phono-L] It's time to vote for EDSON!!!

2006-12-24 Thread john robles
Who's EDSON? :-) srsel...@aol.com wrote: This article from today's Philadelphia Inquirer will fill you in. You can vote on line. As we say in South Philly: "Vote Early AND Often!". Steve Posted on Wed, Dec. 13, 2006 Field narrows for first class in N.J. Hall of Fame Springsteen? Thomas Edi

[Phono-L] Edison ad

2006-12-24 Thread eug4not
Hi folks, Those interested in Edison radios will enjoy viewing a 4 page ad placed in "The Talking Machine and Radio Weekly" magazine issue of May 28 1930 for the Radio manufacturers Association Convention and Show of 1930. It can be viewed in Section 2, document 17 at http://www.bentongue.co

[Phono-L] Edison ad

2006-12-24 Thread Andrew Baron
Thanks, Ben for these excellent, high resolution, unusually colorful ads. I found it interesting that they were marketing the R-4, R-5 and C-4 at the same time as the next generation of models. Makes me think of the situation that so many manufacturers of expensive apparatus were in as th

[Phono-L] Edison ad

2006-12-24 Thread Robert Wright
Fascinating stuff, Ben. Site looks great, too. Thanks for the great work! I never realized Edison announced closing down his record business on the very day of the stock market crash, Black Tuesday. I knew it was around that time, but not the actual day of! I wonder if he had some insider in

[Phono-L] Re: Sex Selling Crapophones

2006-12-24 Thread Robert Plavzic
And the stockings! What would they be called, Whale-net? regards Rob On 12/11/06, Graham Newton wrote: > > "Mario Frazzetto" said... > On the subject: Sex Selling Crapophones > > > They say that sex sells, but does sex help to sell crapophones? (they > are still there) > > You bet... if the l

[Phono-L] Phonomobile for sale

2006-12-24 Thread DeeDee Blais
It's a stretch but here goes...1997 Ford PU for sale. It's has an extended cab, long box, matching canopy, air, electric windows, door locks, keyless remote, am/fm cassette, 3/4 ton, 2WD, V8, low (61,000) miles and in perfect condition inside & out. Have I lost you PhonoNuts yet? Here's the best

[Phono-L] Phonomobile for sale

2006-12-24 Thread David Dazer
I'd like to hear the story of the $75 Columbia AB. Dave DeeDee Blais wrote: It's a stretch but here goes...1997 Ford PU for sale. It's has an extended cab, long box, matching canopy, air, electric windows, door locks, keyless remote, am/fm cassette, 3/4 ton, 2WD, V8, low (61,000) miles and in

[Phono-L] Phonomobile for sale

2006-12-24 Thread edisonst...@comcast.net
Sounds like a West Coast only deal, Can it find it's way to the East Coast & Phono finds on the way ?? -- Original message -- From: DeeDee Blais > It's a stretch but here goes...1997 Ford PU for sale. > It's has an extended cab, long box, matching canopy, > air, elec

[Phono-L] Patent Searches

2006-12-24 Thread Andrew Baron
Thanks, Loran, this is fabulous! I knew that patents were searchable, but this makes it so easy! I've just found Sigmund Bergmann's January 20, 1885 patent (#311,100) for the electric lamp socket that some of us are familiar with as the Edison General Electric unit with the oval key-shaped sw

[Phono-L] Patent Searches

2006-12-24 Thread Loran Hughes
On Dec 14, 2006, at 9:49 AM, Andrew Baron wrote: > I knew that patents were searchable, but this makes it so easy! Only patents issued since 1976 are keyword searchable on the USPTO site. Anything earlier, you need the patent number. Google's interface is much easier to use. Loran

[Phono-L] Patent Searches

2006-12-24 Thread allena...@aol.com
In a message dated 12/14/2006 12:06:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, lo...@oldcrank.com writes: > For you research hounds out there, Google has just made all 7 million > issued U.S. patents keyword searchable back to 1790. Select a patent > from your search results and you can further search for

[Phono-L] Patent Searches/

2006-12-24 Thread allena...@aol.com
In a message dated 12/14/2006 12:54:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, a...@popyrus.com writes: > If the patents were searchable by exact date of issue instead of by the > month, it would be even faster. With a little patience, I can find the > remaining > four patents, descriptions, drawings, e

[Phono-L] Patent Searches/

2006-12-24 Thread Andrew Baron
That IS a help. Thanks. Andy On Dec 14, 2006, at 11:00 AM, allena...@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 12/14/2006 12:54:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, > a...@popyrus.com writes: > > >> If the patents were searchable by exact date of issue instead of >> by the >> month, it would be even fast

[Phono-L] Phonomobile for sale

2006-12-24 Thread Dan K
Just take a plane out there & drive it home! I did that, from Denver to Buffalo ... in a 1967 van. An adventure, but if there were any mountains between Denver & Buffalo, I'd prolly not have tried it . - Original Message - From: To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Thursday, Decemb

[Phono-L] Crescent Phonograph Info

2006-12-24 Thread Robert Wright
With all due respect to your old-time collector friend, Rick, he may have been the victim of some misinformation that he may have passed along, I'm afraid. For one thing, the resulting sound quality was just fine on universal cut records (my E+, rarely-played 9" Emersons sound fabulous), which

[Phono-L] Crescent Phonograph Info

2006-12-24 Thread Keith Wright

[Phono-L] Selling a Standard-F

2006-12-24 Thread Carter, Keith
I'm going to be selling a Standard-F 2/4 minute with rebuilt S reproducer, Motor runs very nicely, Cygnet horn is VERY nice, machine has lid. Machine is very nice. Also comes with about 45 "2" minute and 45 "4" minute cylinders, and a old record cabinet (not an edison) but a nice cabinet that hold

[Phono-L] Path'e for sale

2006-12-24 Thread Carter, Keith
I have also a Path'e model G for sale. Motor runs well. Does not have the lid to cover the turn table (not many you can find do). The elbow was broken and I repaired it. You can still see a small hair line if you look for it. The hinges are broke and the top just lays on the case, but does not move

[Phono-L] I am Looking for a Cylinder

2006-12-24 Thread gpaul2...@aol.com
Randy: If you have a copy of the Second Edition of our book, "The Talking Machine Compendium," you'll find "The Destruction of San Francisco" on the audio CD inside the back cover. George Paul

[Phono-L] Selling a Standard-F

2006-12-24 Thread c5...@aol.com
What is your asking price on the Standard? Thanks, Bob

[Phono-L] Crescent Phonograph Info

2006-12-24 Thread allena...@aol.com
In a message dated 12/5/2006 7:56:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, bruce78...@comcast.net writes: > > Crescent Talking Machine Co. > > 89 Chambers Street > > New York City > > > > August 1916 (trademark filed 8/15/1919; used since 3/19/1914 > > > >

[Phono-L] Crescent Phonograph Info

2006-12-24 Thread allena...@aol.com
In a message dated 12/5/2006 7:56:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, bruce78...@comcast.net writes: > > Crescent Talking Machine Co. > > 89 Chambers Street > > New York City > > > August 1916 (trademark filed 8/15/1919; used since 3/19/1914 > > > Ken Ogden > === As far as I know, the "used

[Phono-L] Crescent Phonograph Info

2006-12-24 Thread Loran Hughes
On Dec 6, 2006, at 4:22 PM, allena...@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 12/5/2006 7:56:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, > bruce78...@comcast.net writes: > >>> Crescent Talking Machine Co. >>> 89 Chambers Street >>> New York City >> >>> August 1916 (trademark filed 8/15/1919; used since 3/19/1914 >>

[Phono-L] Crescent Phonograph Info

2006-12-24 Thread allena...@aol.com
In a message dated 12/6/2006 8:18:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, lo...@oldcrank.com writes: > I believe the date refers to the issue of Talking Machine World where > advertising was first noted, as I recall from the original article from > which this info was quoted. > *** Hi The TM

[Phono-L] Phono-L Mug Shots

2006-12-24 Thread Loran T. Hughes
OK, somebody requested photos of the Phono-L mugs. Here is a photo of the three 2006 Mugs: http://homepage.mac.com/loranhughes/PhotoAlbum14.html The two mugs on the right have been run though the dishwasher numerous times and haven't faded in the least. If you would like to order these, or t

[Phono-L] Crescent Phonograph Info

2006-12-24 Thread c5...@aol.com
I know of a very rare Crescent barrister bookcase phonograph that is 3 stacks high on legs. It is the only one I have come across. The bottom case holds 12" records, the middle hold 10" records and the phonograph is in the top section including the horn. Has any list member every seen another?

[Phono-L] Crescent Record & "Jackson's Challenge"

2006-12-24 Thread agw1...@aol.com
In a message dated 12/5/2006 10:12:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, esrobe...@hotmail.com writes: I'll have to see it with my own eyes before I'll believe that both Allan Sutton and Kurt Nauck are wrong when they say the existence of universal cut Crescents remains unconfirmed, while this

[Phono-L] uh, wow...

2006-12-24 Thread Robert Wright
Can someone tell me how this can be possible? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twgw-MReQaI Judging by the sound changing as the camcorder gets closer to and farther from the horn, and the amateurish vibe of the clip, it doesn't seem to be any kind of hoax. (Also notice the shredding of the poor

[Phono-L] uh, wow...

2006-12-24 Thread John Maeder
At least there is no shortage of "Love Me Tender" 45's! >From: "Robert Wright" >Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List >To: "Antique Phonograph List" >Subject: [Phono-L] uh, wow... >Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 00:54:24 -0600 > >Can someone tell me how this can be possible? > >http://www.youtube.com/watch

[Phono-L] uh, wow...

2006-12-24 Thread estott
Playing a 45 on a victorola isn't that hard, it helps that they often presed them in a very hard plastic. The greatest chance for the needle to rip out the groove is at the beginning- if you can get past that point the needle seems to ride pretty well, I recall that I had to do a lot of experime

[Phono-L] uh, wow...

2006-12-24 Thread Robert Wright
I played 45's on victrolas as a kid, too, but this phonograph is running at exactly 45rpm (a quick comparison to a modern cd issue of "Love Me Tender" will show this). That's the part I was bewildered by. Was there ever any kind of mod available (as horrible an idea as it would've been) that m

[Phono-L] uh, wow...

2006-12-24 Thread estott
I just turned down the speed on mine, and it seemed to run preety smoothly. - Original Message - From: "Robert Wright" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 6:57 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] uh, wow... >I played 45's on victrolas as a kid, too, but this phonogr

[Phono-L] Barrister-type Crescent Phonograph

2006-12-24 Thread gpaul2...@aol.com
A Crescent phonograph such as you described in a barrister-type bookcase appears (in three views) in our upcoming book. This example belongs to Richard and Nancyann Brown. The machine is quite an oddity! George Paul

[Phono-L] Phonograph Ornaments I put on Ebay

2006-12-24 Thread srsel...@aol.com
Yesterday I found I had one duplicate each of three different Phono ornaments which are NOT the common ones. They are from the 1990s. Anyway, I know a number of you collect these. I put them on Ebay last night. My photos are not real sharp as I did not want to remove from the cellophane b

[Phono-L] uh, wow...

2006-12-24 Thread Ron L
I have not tried it but I think the speed control is capable of making the turntable go very slowly. It controls speed and not spring power, so unless the spring is so weak that it depends on a flywheel effect from the turntable, it could very well play a 45 or a 33.3. Ron L -Original Messag

[Phono-L] A different "oh Wow!"

2006-12-24 Thread srsel...@aol.com
You folks like tracking ebay items. This MUST be a "record" for a record. And it's LEGIT. Closes TOMORROW! _eBay: VELVET UNDERGROUND & NICO 1966 Acetate LP ANDY WARHOL (item 300054910309 end time Dec-08-06 20:27:23 PST)_ (http://cgi.ebay.com/VELVET-UNDERGROUND-NICO-1966-Acetate-LP-ANDY-WA

[Phono-L] uh, wow...

2006-12-24 Thread Robert Wright
None of the speed controls on any of my wind-ups could even approach 45rpm without making severe internal adjustments to the governor (to the point of not being able to get back up to 78rpm unless re-adjusted), and even if they could've, I can't imagine them being able to maintain it with a head

[Phono-L] Some Additional Holiday Gift Wish List items from Steve Ramm

2006-12-24 Thread srsel...@aol.com
Hi All: Because of space limitations a portion of my Anything Phonographic column in the December issue of In The Groove had to be deleted. This is my Annual Gift Wish List column. Because there are some superb items (The FABULOUS Jazz Icons DVDs; the Sinatra set which brings back his "b

[Phono-L] Crescent Record & "Jackson's Challenge"

2006-12-24 Thread Tyrone Settlemier
I have copies of all three label types, and all are indeed vertical, but I'll agree none are recorded very well. The cut seems identical to similar Operaphone issues in every instance. Tyrone - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 10:13 PM Subject: Re: [Pho

[Phono-L] Phonogram phonograph

2006-12-24 Thread phonofo...@aol.com
Didi anyone see this on ebay? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=018&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=280048047486&rd=1&rd=1 Quite a find. I have never seen one sell before. Never realized this could cost as much as a victor 6. __

[Phono-L] Phonogram phonograph

2006-12-24 Thread Mark Albertson
And you may never see one sell again...quite rare indeed. Wait till next week and there will be a Vic 6 however. But I think most collectors would rather have a Vic 6 than a cardboard box. - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 2:52 PM Subject: [Phono-L] P

[Phono-L] Spike Jones - Der Fuhrer's Face

2006-12-24 Thread Ken Danckaert
This seems a good day to ask if it was Spike Jones that provided the audio ofr this Disney film clip. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOmHPx8ujko I don't have the record to compare the two. Does someone else? Enjoy, Ken Danckaert

[Phono-L] Spike Jones - Der Fuhrer's Face

2006-12-24 Thread estott
It is Jones, but the version in the film is very "Straight" lacking the crazy sound effects and manic orchestration in the popular release. From what I've heard Jones recorded two versions- one was in the cartoon, the other was the record release. One bog difference is that in the cartoon there

[Phono-L] Spike Jones - Der Fuhrer's Face

2006-12-24 Thread john robles
Scott Corbett would be the one to ask - he wrote a book on Spike Jones some years ago, along with Barry...hmm, can't remember his last name- but he's more popularly known as Dr. Demento. The edition sold out, it is very rare today. John estott wrote: It is Jones, but the version in the film

[Phono-L] Found a FOURTH Phonograph Ornament

2006-12-24 Thread srsel...@aol.com
Hi All: Last night I found I had a fourth different one - I only had one dup of that too. THis one is an Edison CYLINDER phono. Anyway, it's on Ebay now. Glad I found these while "cleaning up" . Under seller: Stevenramm Best, Steve

[Phono-L] Spike Jones - Der Fuhrer's Face

2006-12-24 Thread srsel...@aol.com
In a message dated 12/7/2006 11:04:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, john9...@pacbell.net writes: Scott Corbett would be the one to ask - he wrote a book on Spike Jones some years ago, along with Barry...hmm, can't remember his last name- but he's more popularly known as Dr. Demento. The edi

[Phono-L] uh, wow...

2006-12-24 Thread Steven Medved
I played a 1950's vinyl 78 and it sounded good, but it shredded the record, like playing a wax amberol on an amberola 50, you get one time good sound.

[Phono-L] Re: Spike Jones - Der Fuhrer's Face

2006-12-24 Thread Graham Newton
Ken Danckaert said... On the subject: Spike Jones - Der Fuhrer's Face > This seems a good day to ask if it was Spike Jones that provided the > audio ofr this Disney film clip. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOmHPx8ujko > I don't have the record to compare the two. Does someone else? Here

[Phono-L] RE: What is this?

2006-12-24 Thread diamondisk...@aol.com
Hello, all, An interesting item is on ebay. The item is listed as an "Edison Laboratory Model Phonograph." The phonograph looks a lot like a Long-Play console, except something appears to be missing. ebay # 320059026033 Randy Minor

[Phono-L] RE: What is this?

2006-12-24 Thread David White
...something appears to be missing. like legs... -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of diamondisk...@aol.com Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 9:18 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] RE: What is this? Hello,

[Phono-L] RE: What is this?

2006-12-24 Thread Robert Wright
All I know is that the strange accessory in the first 3 pictures, which appears to be holding the lid open (in the upper right hand corner), is the removable piece of a guitar stand upon which the body of the guitar would generally sit. (See http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Musicians-Fri

[Phono-L] RE: What is this?

2006-12-24 Thread Robert Plavzic
I think that the design flaw maybe was that the legs were not strong enough for the machine? I found the same model also with no legs? Or were the legs detachable & just got lost? thanks for any info Rob On 12/9/06, Robert Wright wrote: > > All I know is that the strange accessory in the first

[Phono-L] Suitcase Home WANTED

2006-12-24 Thread Mario Frazzetto
Hi Folks, I' really chasing a suitcase home. Brass mandrel would be cool but not essential what is essential is that the machine has to be MINT original.. Anybody willing to let their's go for a good price? Email me: mari...@optushome.com.au Cheers, Mario

[Phono-L] Suitcase Home WANTED

2006-12-24 Thread Rich
Well, I guess the real motivating force would be to let everyone who owns such an item know what the "good price" is. On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 23:40:32 +1100, Mario Frazzetto wrote: >Hi Folks, >I' really chasing a suitcase home. Brass mandrel would be cool but not >essential what is essential

[Phono-L] Thought this was interesting...

2006-12-24 Thread msprin...@juno.com
Maybe these are common, but I think it's interesting: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320060246562&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1

[Phono-L] My dilemma - which machine would you pick??

2006-12-24 Thread Ron L
I'd go for the open horn machine. They look great, sound a bit better than the Victrola and take up less space/are easily transported. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of john robles Sent: Monday, December 04, 200

[Phono-L] My dilemma - which machine would you pick??

2006-12-24 Thread Walt Sommers
Is "both" a possible choice for "which one"? I'd say the Vic II if you can't or don't want to buy both. The Vic II Humpback sounds better for the money and its earlier date (especially being original as you state) gets me over the subjective edge. Besides that, I am a sucker (in the good sense of

[Phono-L] My dilemma - which machine would you pick??

2006-12-24 Thread Bob or JoAnn Maffit
Phono Folks: I agree with getting the vic II. It for the most part is smaller and if space is an issue, well... This strategy would allow for more room for more machines. My guess is that external horn models hold value better and to the general public, God forbid, have more liquidity.

[Phono-L] Which one?

2006-12-24 Thread DeeDee Blais
Another tough question! I'm always a sucker for a nice big Victrola and the 130/XVII is exquisite but to me the deciding factor is the after market horn on the Vic II. It seems to me that many of the newer collectors (and possibly most collectors in general) are anxious to find Victor machines wi

[Phono-L] What makes a "phono friend"?

2006-12-24 Thread DeeDee Blais
One of the recent postings mentioned the difficulty in moving and storing Victrolas and it made me think of moving from our old home and into a new one. About fifteen years ago we sold our home. In that home, I had a phonograph room that held about 500 sq feet of phonographs and it was full. We

[Phono-L] My dilemma - which machine would you pick??

2006-12-24 Thread john robles
Both is a possibility, but both will also get me killed!! Walt Sommers wrote: Is "both" a possible choice for "which one"? I'd say the Vic II if you can't or don't want to buy both. The Vic II Humpback sounds better for the money and its earlier date (especially being original as you state) g

[Phono-L] Which one?

2006-12-24 Thread john robles
The horn has light surface dirt and maybe rust, the petals feel rough. I don't think it would be cleanable to the degree that the picture of the horn in the Fabrizio book is nice, clean and shiny... DeeDee Blais wrote: Another tough question! I'm always a sucker for a nice big Victrola and th

[Phono-L] My dilemma - which machine would you pick??

2006-12-24 Thread Walt Sommers
Hmmm.If getting both IS a possibility then in order to avoid being killed, try flowers, a nice candlelit dinner, a few cards, a box of Godiva chocolates (shall I continue?), and if none of those work, just grovel. -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bo

[Phono-L] My dilemma - which machine would you pick??

2006-12-24 Thread msprin...@juno.com
On that theme (and at the risk of being way non-PC) try sex slave... -- "Walt Sommers" wrote: Hmmm.If getting both IS a possibility then in order to avoid being killed, try flowers, a nice candlelit dinner, a few cards, a box of Godiva chocolates (shall I continue?), and if none of those work

[Phono-L] My dilemma - which machine would you pick??

2006-12-24 Thread john robles
H... "msprin...@juno.com" wrote: On that theme (and at the risk of being way non-PC) try sex slave... -- "Walt Sommers" wrote: Hmmm.If getting both IS a possibility then in order to avoid being killed, try flowers, a nice candlelit dinner, a few cards, a box of Godiva chocolates (shall

[Phono-L] My dilemma - which machine would you pick??

2006-12-24 Thread john robles
Now THERE'S an idea Steven Medved wrote: Why can't you tell her the one is a stand for the other? ___ Phono-L mailing list Phono-L@oldcrank.org Phono-L Archive http://phono-l.oldcrank.org/archive/ Support Phono-L http://www.cafepress.com/oldcran

[Phono-L] My dilemma - which machine would you pick??

2006-12-24 Thread john robles
I won't have time to grovel. I will be killed three times before I hit the floor. Walt Sommers wrote: Hmmm.If getting both IS a possibility then in order to avoid being killed, try flowers, a nice candlelit dinner, a few cards, a box of Godiva chocolates (shall I continue?), and if none of

[Phono-L] Moving Victrolas

2006-12-24 Thread Mike Stitt
Jerry is telling the truth. I did drive all that way and we did moves hundreds of machine. So to you my dear friend Jerry, I would be happy to help again, if I wasn't 55. Heck I'm in my heart attack years!!! lol It was fun but our age is catching up to us. Btw, I agree with Jerry. Would take a

[Phono-L] Moving Victrolas

2006-12-24 Thread Stan Stanford
Mike, Those were the same excuses you used then and always use. Are you really 55 now I also agree with Jerry, but remember the Vic II is lighter. stan - Original Message - From: "Mike Stitt" To: "phono" Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 10:52 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Movin

[Phono-L] Moving Victrolas

2006-12-24 Thread Loran Hughes
On Dec 5, 2006, at 6:42 AM, Stan Stanford wrote: > Mike, > Those were the same excuses you used then and always use. Are > you really 55 now I also agree with Jerry, but remember the > Vic II is lighter. Yeah, Mike's pretty much useless now. He'll only carry the light stuff and

[Phono-L] Moving Victrolas

2006-12-24 Thread Daniel Melvin
I think Mike is on to something with the beer... I know the move Jerry spoke of (a million thanks to Jerry Blais and Bob Carver) was surprisingly hard. I don't think I realized now much harder things are at 52 than at 40 either. If I ever have to move again it will be to the "home" and someone else

[Phono-L] Moving Victrolas

2006-12-24 Thread Steven Medved
Mike, say it isn't so. The part about getting older is very true, the best advice I can give is to lift weights and stretch. I am 47 and unless I work out my back gets so bad it is hard for me to get around. When I was young I lifted to get big, I never did, now I lift just to extend middl

[Phono-L] Moving my Amberola 30

2006-12-24 Thread Kevan Ellis
Hi group, What is a safe way to move my Amberola from place to place to do music Christmas Shows this month? Kevan _ Enter the "Telus Mobility Xbox a Day" contest for your chance to WIN! Telus Mobility is giving away an Microsoft X

[Phono-L] moving Victrolas

2006-12-24 Thread Mike Stitt
Thanks for all the kind remarks. My new motto is I don't want to get paid what I'm worthI don't work that cheap!! Steve, lifting weights can be fun but I've worked hard to get this sedentary. Stan yes 55 you ageless wonder. Just so we get it all c

[Phono-L] Moving my Amberola 30

2006-12-24 Thread Steven Medved
Hi Kevan, I would suggest lifting the lever so the half nut is not engaged and using string or rubber bands secure the carriage so that it cannot move. I would then place it in a large box with bubble wrap around the 50 to protect it when you are driving and place it in the vehicle so it will

[Phono-L] Crescent Phonograph Info

2006-12-24 Thread Jeff Walton
Greetings: A coworker approached me because he knew I was a phonograph nut. He stumped me on the Crescent Phonograph cause I deal mostly with Edisons. I was wonder if the group could give me some history about the company. The phono he has is a Crescent Phonograph. Its a stand up model with a

[Phono-L] Crescent Phonograph Info

2006-12-24 Thread phono...@aol.com
All I could find is: Crescent Talking Machine Co. 89 Chambers Street New York City August 1916 (trademark filed 8/15/1919; used since 3/19/1914 Ken Ogden

[Phono-L] Crescent Phonograph Info

2006-12-24 Thread Steven Medved
Just one of the many clones the Victor expired patents produced. If he is interested in buying ads here are three: http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=Crescent+PhonographCrescent -- Crescent Talking Machine Company, 89 Chambers Street, New York City, New York. August 191

[Phono-L] Crescent Phonograph Info

2006-12-24 Thread Steven Medved
for the ads http://tinyurl.com/y3z98h > From: bruce78...@comcast.net> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org> Subject: Re: > [Phono-L] Crescent Phonograph Info> Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 19:15:41 -0500> > > If I am not mistaken, this company also put out an etched type record > > (unless there were two Cresc

[Phono-L] Crescent Phonograph Info

2006-12-24 Thread bruce78rpm
Ok, I can confirm that this odd Crescent 8" record says at the bottom, Crescent Talking Machine Co. Inc., New York, N.Y., I have also taken a scan of the label (it is etched) so if you would like a copy of the scan just email me off line. Bruce - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Tu

[Phono-L] Crescent Phonograph Info

2006-12-24 Thread estott
If your friend REALLY likes the machine, have him buy the letter with the company letterhead and illustrated envelope- a very nice "Go-Along" indeed. These off brand machines are mostly very similar, in fact many of them use the same parts from the same suppliers. The cabinet is usually the sel

[Phono-L] Crescent Phonograph Info

2006-12-24 Thread Robert Wright
According to Nauck & Sutton's American Record Labels and Companies, there were 3 series of Crescent records, all of which were vertical. The first series were etched-label and were basically Operaphone pressings. The second series were made by Rex, jewel-point like Pathes. The third series w

[Phono-L] Decision

2006-12-24 Thread john robles
Maroon Gem?? LOL The II is nice because it is completely unrestored and yet is very restorable. The horn, I believe, is marginal. The Victrola 130 was sold only once, and the finish, while dirty, is very smooth, so I think some cleaning will reveal a very nice original finish. I think it may h

[Phono-L] Crescent Phonograph Info

2006-12-24 Thread Loran T. Hughes
On Dec 5, 2006, at 5:49 PM, Robert Wright wrote: > I gotta say, I have never heard of or seen a Crescent. I bet it's > pretty darn cool. > > Robert I've seen exactly one, 10 years ago, on the east coast. It was a mission style machine with open sides. I didn't know what the heck it was, s

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