I would like to wish Loran and the list a Happy and Healthy New Year
Hey, everybody,
there are lots of cylinder records available on e-bay but the sellers don't
know if the records are 2 minute or 4 minute. my question is, how can you tell
the difference? gold moulded, blue amberol, etc.
John
I am using a fellow by the name of Gene Sandberg to move a couple console
phonographs and radio from CA. to Indiana. He goes all over the country
doing just
this. I have not used him before but he is highly recommended by some people
whose judgement I trust completely. His phone numbers:
Thanks so much, I will call him.
John
Bruce Mercer maxbu...@sigecom.net wrote:
I am using a fellow by the name of Gene Sandberg to move a couple console
phonographs and radio from CA. to Indiana. He goes all over the country
doing just
this. I have not used him before but he is highly
John,
If it was in Austin, I'd pick it up and hold it for as long as you needed.
But Houston's a 3 hr drive away. Have you tried calling Steinway Pianos and
asking them who they use for interstate deliveries?
-Mike
-Original Message-
From: john robles [mailto:john9...@pacbell.net]
John,
Here is another contact for careful moving, he has moved many large valuable
items
for Jasper SanFilipo. He is one of the few movers that can prepare a Mills
Violano
or reproducing piano for transport. Your harp sounds delicate and should have
proper
treatment.
I have had bad results
No I haven't..this is a folk harp from Mexico, about 20 pounds, and about 5'
high. It is really relatively small and light, just awkward in shape. You can
see me playing one on my music website, www.elsondelpueblo.com to get an idea
of what I need to move.
THanks!
John
Mgraziano1
Doug,
please help one more time...
After your thoughtful reply I emailed the guy the information along with a
couple questions. It appears the entire resistor was being used as there was
a wire attached to each end. He sent me a photo of it and the thing is green
from the wire under the
Thanks Dennis, I appreciate your comments. I started at age 12, played in
restaurants at age 15, and have played for everything from home parties to the
Shrine Auditorium over the last 30 years.
John
Dennis Back back...@yahoo.com wrote:
--- john robles wrote:
You can see me playing one on
I recently had a new stylus made for my D 25 DD machine because I noticed
lines being made in the run out of a white paper label . I got the stylus
back and tried it on the run out- Lines again! I then tried it on other
disks, both etched and white paper label -no lines!. Has anyone ever heard
Actually, a variac would be a very good solution. You would locate it in the
motor vompartment and set the output for 32 Volts. I recommend that
location because of someone wanting to tinker with it if it's accessable.
Now, Variacs come in currnet rayings and since the motor draws a small
A friend has made a mold for me and I have now made a few prototype 1.75
inch gaskets that fit the Columbia floating reproducer. They are blue green
in color. I tried one in the reproducer I had apart for a rebuild and it
seems to fit great. The rebuilt reproducer sealed nicely and sounds good.
Hi Guys
Ok the victrola arrived, and it is an early VV IV A model from Canada (Berliner
Gramophone of Montreal). It requires the femal crank with the flat bar arm.
Anyone got one or a repro??
Need it for the CAPS show next weekend. Any help ios appreciated!
THanks
John
Hello all. I live in Southern California. A friend of mine had car trouble in
Salt Lake City and had to leave it there to be fixed. We are driving there
late Sunday night to pick it up Monday morning. I was wondering if anyone on
the list knows of any collectors, great antique stores, etc.
Hello all. I live in Southern California. A friend of mine had car trouble in
Salt Lake City and had to leave it there to be fixed. We are driving there
late Sunday night to pick it up Monday morning. I was wondering if anyone on
the list knows of any collectors, great antique stores, etc.
mdsor...@aol.com wrote:Hello all. I live in Southern California. A friend of
mine had car trouble in Salt Lake City and had to leave it there to be fixed.
We are driving there late Sunday night to pick it up Monday morning. I was
wondering if anyone on the list knows of any collectors, great
Hi Mark
First of all, thanks Mike for the plug! And yes Mark, I can bring some CDs.
John
mdsor...@aol.com wrote:
Hello all. I live in Southern California. A friend of mine had car trouble in
Salt Lake City and had to leave it there to be fixed. We are driving there late
Sunday night to pick it
List mates,
Has anyone on the list removed their own DD styli? Is it just soft solder
and therefore easy to heat up and push out? Does anyone have a trashed
needle bar with the remnants of a stylus that I could experiment with? A
company that is local to me has no trouble making the styli to
Ron,
It depends on the age of the stylus bar. The earliest ones have the bare
diamonds soldered in, the later ones have a nickel plated diamond soldered
in. In either case you can heat and remove the stylus.
According to Edison Diamond Disc Re-Creations records artists 1910-1929
page 107:
During house cleaning, I find that I've got an Edison tuning record
(3342-B-5) ... I know I am being perfectly lazy in asking: what musical
note is this ?
I wanted to alert you to a typographical error in my column in In The Groove
for August. The price for the book The Berliner Gramophone: An Illustrated
History by Mark Caruana-Dingli and published by Canadian collector Domenic
DiBernardo was incorrectly listed. The price is $29.00 plus
Just a side note, I have the book and really enjoy it. It's probably about as
close as I will ever come to owning a Berliner! Mark is a great guy and a super
writer.
Dave
srsel...@aol.com wrote:
I wanted to alert you to a typographical error in my column in In The Groove
for August. The
I am guessing it is A-440, which is a standard at least in modern times.
Dan Kj- ediso...@verizon.net wrote:During house cleaning, I find that I've
got an Edison tuning record
(3342-B-5) ... I know I am being perfectly lazy in asking: what musical
note is this ?
It is in the pitch of A 440. Supposed to be used with a pitch pipe.
Bruce
Hi
This looks like a pretty straight AT to me
http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-The-Graphophone-Columbia-AT-Cylinder-Gramophone_W0QQitemZ6550524346QQcategoryZ38028QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Is it perhaps in a land sparsely populated with phonographs, even a common
machine is uncommon?
thanks
Rob
Phono-L,
I got this link from a phonograph collector in Portland, OR. I'm trying
to identify an Edison reproducer that someone sent an inquiry on my web page.
Can someone identify this? The top one is for an Edison b80. The bottom one
is unknown. Please see enclosed pictures.
Thanks,
If you or I put the same machine on Ebay it would
bring $800. The horn is probably a repro, they usually
are.
--- Robert Plavzic plav...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi
This looks like a pretty straight AT to me
Hello all...
For a re-issue project, I need the following Edison disc or a good transfer off
a really clean copy:-
Are You Lonesome Tonight (Ray Turk-Lou Handman)
Vaughn de Leath
Edison 52044, mx 11734 (June 13/27)
Can anyone assist with this or point me in the right direction?
Hello, Graham:
I have a clean copy of 52044, that I think would be fine for your purposes,
but it is one of thirty-five 52,000 series Diamond Disks I plan to list on
ebay in the near future. (52,044 is the lowest number of the group.) I need to
get fair-market value for the records, but am
In a message dated 8/12/2005 12:05:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
g...@audio-restoration.com writes:
Hello all...
For a re-issue project, I need the following Edison disc or a good transfer
off
a really clean copy:-
Are You Lonesome Tonight (Ray Turk-Lou Handman)
Vaughn de Leath
Edison
52044 was still acoustical, so doesn't attract the interest of those looking
for electric Edisons in the 52000 range.
My copy cost me $2 (but I cannot find it! )
- Original Message -
From: diamondisk...@aol.com
I have a clean copy of 52044, that I think would be fine for your
In a message dated 8/13/2005 12:04:17 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
ediso...@verizon.net writes:
52044 was still acoustical, so doesn't attract the interest of those looking
for electric Edisons in the 52000 range.
My copy cost me $2 (but I cannot find it! )
I know that the early 52,000
I think the electrics of the 52000 range start around 52090, per Kurt
Nauck... Can anyone with Dethlefson/Wile's compendium confirm an actual
number?
Best,
Robert
- Original Message -
From: diamondisk...@aol.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 11:41 PM
Subject:
Thanks Dan!
- Original Message -
From: Dan Kj ediso...@verizon.net
52089
- Original Message -
From: Robert Wright esrobe...@hotmail.com
I think the electrics of the 52000 range start around 52090, per Kurt
Nauck... Can anyone with Dethlefson/Wile's compendium confirm
Thanks to all who responded about the Edison disc needed.
I think we've found what we needed for the re-release.
... Graham Newton
--
Audio Restoration by Graham Newton, http://www.audio-restoration.com
World class professional services applied to tape or phonograph records for
consumers
Finnish: 59305-59306
Spanish/Cuban: 60063-60078 60063 is the earliest, released DD electrical
matrix.
German: 57025-57034
52089 to 52651 for the 50,000 series
80885 to 80907 for the 80,000 series
82351 to 82360 for the 82,000 series
Please remember that the 82500 series was not part of the 82000
Your wife is wonderful, anything before 1900 is rare. Happy to hear you
have them and will enjoy learning what they are from.
Steve
My wife just came back with
some Flea Market, opera and 9 by 12 record supplement finds. Maybe
someone
can shed some light as to who these artists were and
I bought a rather large solid oak cylinder cabinet a couple of days ago.
It is similar to this cabinet.
http://www.phonograph.be/afbeeldingen/11classmrechts.jpg
It has space for a name tag that is oval. I am looking for a tag for
it.
I do not believe my cabinet held a class M machine as the top
In a message dated 8/15/2005 2:10:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
antiquera...@webtv.net writes:
I do not believe my cabinet held a class M machine as the top of my
cabinet is different. Mine has a slant top that looks like a writing
desk that is hinged in the middle at an angle. When oppened
Hi Folks
Can anyone help me find a reasonably priced cabinet for a Gem? I have a model D
maroon Gem, but the base plate is green oak which is incorrect, and there is no
lid. If it needs refinishing, that's ok. The reason I need it reasonably priced
is that I spent my spare cash at the CAPS
Cory,
I did a Google search and found a lot of hits that you might want to look at.
You could contact Tim Gracyk for a start. Tim seems to have published a lot of
material on this topic and early recordings of African American and early
ragtime music.
Good luck with your research.
Tom
Doug,
The door knobs on your VV-300 are part number 5604GP. They are 3/4 diameter at
the large end, gold plated and have three concentric rings on the outer face.
The 300 horn doors (HD) and end doors (ED) all use the same size knob.
These knobs are also used on the horn doors of the XVII
Hi Folks
I am looking for a good aluminum gear and spindle for the Amberola VI. This is
the aluminum gear in the front of the train that amways makes so much noise.
Anyone got a junker Amberola VI that they could spare this gear from? I am not
that conversant with the gear train terminology, so
Collector/Dealer Jerry Madsen (The oldtimers will remember Jerry's Musical
News in the 1970s and 80s) publishes an auction list about every two years.
Anyway, Jerry is not on any of the newsgroups and asked if I could spread
the word. Since it's not a regular list, I thought a one time post
A close friend who is an advanced collector is considering selling off the
bulk of a beautiful rare collection of high-end upright and outside horn
machines. Although he plans to keep a few favorites, he thinks the time has
come to cash out of the hobby.
I have been collecting for just 5
Hello, Greg:
I cannot speak for the high-rollers, in the hobby, but from my
perspective, phonographs have not been a particular good investment. For
many years, I
was a sucker for beautiful, Diamond Disk Laboratory models. Most of the Lab
Models I own, or have owned in the past, are
I think very desirable machines, especially rare machines, have continued to
increase in value. More common machines including common horn machines
(e.g., Edison standards, homes, triumphs; Victor I-III) have not increased
much in the past few years.In fact some prices have even softened.
In a message dated 8/24/2005 10:15:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
s...@clarphon.com writes:
Entry level machines (e.g., Amberola 30, Victrolas: VV-IV; VV-VI) have
not
increased since I started collecting about 15 years ago.
This means you lost money, if you bought those machines,
I would expect that there are a number of collectors with long
experience who may not have yet been exposed to the changes Ebay has
brought about in the dynamics of the market for phonographs. When
they seek to cash out, it's going to be a bit of a surprise.
A friend with a large collection
Ideal fantasy: sell the whole collection around 8-10 years ago, buy ee-bai
stock when it was first offered, sell now at the inflated value, and
repurchase collection at the new lower prices. haha
ps - Quite agreed about Kurt Nauck. I can't count the number of times I
have seen my 'wins'
It ain't just phonographs... it kills me when I see that same *thing*
sitting in the same place, at the same price, year after year. You
would think the dealer would get a clue after a while.
Loran
On Aug 25, 2005, at 1:08 PM, Phillip Sands wrote:
I was in an antique mall in Detroit last
And herein we find evidence of at least two classes of collector --
another aspect of our community that makes this so much fun. We have the
camp that buys cheap, fixes them up, enjoys them a while and then lets them
go to another collector for more than they paid. Then we have the camp who
stun
Robert,
I agree, but the most expensive ones seem to sound the best.
Steve
I belong to an entirely different camp, admittedly. My only concern with
any phonograph is still what does THIS one sound like?? I appreciate the
fixers just as much as the rollers, and the collections of each
See, Steve, that's where you guys come in! I bet I could describe a certain
type of sound and you folks could tell me what phonograph I should start
looking for based on that description.
Which reminds me to ask a question about the playback of those 20 Path?
theater records. Kurt Nauck told me
Hi Robert,
I'm restoring a Pathephone 18 (also known is a 180 ) right now that plays
these discs. It plays the 20 discs recorded at 130 rpm and the threatre 20
discs which were recorded at 60rpm.
See this page on my friend Henri Chamoux's website:
I guess if you start collecting when you are 13 your outlook is a little
different. I collected because I liked the machines. I liked the way they
sounded and the music on the records. I enjoyed getting them running
correctly and I hated to part with one. I still feel the same way. I
I think you'd have to build up the turntable of the VI too. I just checked
mine and a 20 record would hit the brake barrel unless it was raised by
about the thickness of another record. It just clears the back bracket
though. Interesting. 14 is the max diameter for a disk on my Pathe X
Ron L
wow, we're gettin' mail from a weapon of mass destruction!
(whose mama didn't teach him how to say please)
On Aug 27, 2005, at 2:39 PM, Morgan Davis wrote:
Take me off your list. WMD
I thought I missed something. Apparently, I was not alone.
Randy
I'd like: a Gabel's Automatic Entertainer a Regina Hexaphone
I believe that both could be ordered in home versions, which didn't require
a coin could play several records in sequence (or if not available that
way, they SHOULD have been. hehe )
I have a couple of the Pathe cone machines
OK, I'd like a larger Amberola because I don't have one at all and the
larger ones sound better. I'd like a coin op because they represent the
beginnings of the phonograph as entertainment and I'd like the trade mark
machine because it is just that, the machine that Nipper sits in front of,
and
Merle:
Thanks for sharing this. This introduces me to another one of my Bros.
Bob
- Original Message -
From: Merle Sprinzen msprin...@juno.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ward Marston in the New York Times 8/27
Here's the
In a message dated 8/27/2005 5:39:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
mfkhanchal...@altrionet.com writes:
I'm restoring a Pathephone 18 (also known is a 180 ) right now that plays
these discs. It plays the 20 discs recorded at 130 rpm and the threatre 20
*
ah, but does it play those
I would be very interested in hearing any record Caruso recorded using a
microphone!
:-)
Bruce
Hello Allen!
It only plays those if I remove the horn bracket and hand hold reproducer
arm!!!
Happy regards,
Michael Khanchalian
- Original Message -
From: allena...@aol.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 1:09 PM
Subject: SPAM-MED: Re: [Phono-L] Phonographs
As the original author of this thread, I want to thank everyone who
contributed to one of the most thought-provoking (and lengthy) topics we
have had for quite some time.
What I learned:
1) The most rare and collectible machines will remain that way. Their value
is assured. They should be
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6554516130
http://tinyurl.com/axxa6
Did anyone see this one?
Steve
Hi Robert,
The Edison wooden cygnet has a wonderful sound, this is just one example of
high end phonos, the EMG is another.
Best regards,
Steve
See, Steve, that's where you guys come in! I bet I could describe a
certain
type of sound and you folks could tell me what phonograph I should
The owner of the key has informed me that it is absolutely not for
sale and hasn't given me permission to release his contact info. Sorry
guys.
Regards,
Loran
On Apr 1, 2005, at 8:09 AM, John Maeder wrote:
I am the proud owner of Amberola IA serial #2, and I can confirm that
my machine
Maybe he would agree to making an impression so another could be cast?
Ron L
-Original Message-
From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org]
On Behalf Of Loran T.Hughes
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 12:56 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L]
In addition to being not really on with his research on that Art Herzog
cabinet with built in horn which Housed the Edison Home, I would think that
the appraisers estimated value must have been off the mark as well. Isn't
the cabinet shown on Antique Roadshow much rarer then say a full barreled
In a message dated 4/1/2005 1:58:48 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
lhera...@bu.edu writes:
Maybe he would agree to making an impression so another could be cast?
Ron L
I need 4 such keys for my 3 IAs and IB. I would gladly pay for a copy if
they are made.
Thanks,
Al
Al - Perhaps we can find someone to make them and combine buying power to
keep the price down. Perhaps Bob Johnson and others may need them as well. Am
I correctly assuming that you require the flat dolphin keys, as opposed to the
skeleton type? Regards, John M
- Original Message -
It would be nice to know if all early Amberolas were keyed the same.
The locks on the early Amberolas that I have seen have a key code
stamped on the back of the lock. The locks on the machines that I
have access to are stamped '6M5'. This can best be seen by looking
at the lock on the record
Why are such seemingly simple things always so complicated? I just checked the
locks on my serial number 2 and they are stamped '6MAC1'. I have no idea of
the bit configuration. Different bits does complicate matters John M
- Original Message -
From: David White
Sent: Saturday,
John:
You may want to check your lock code again. My lyre-grille 1A has
lock code 6MAC10. Are you sure there's not a zero at the end of yours?
I'd be interested in a reproduction key, if any are ever made.
George Paul
The solution to finding (or making) a key that fits may not
be all that complicated. I am guessing that a locksmith that has
been in the business a long time would be able to make a
replacement key using the key code.
The question remains - how many different key codes were
used on the early
George -- Nope, it's 6MAC1. No zero. What is the S/N of your lyre-grill?
John M
- Original Message -
From: gpaul2...@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:40 PM
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Re: Phono Key Chart Update - new casting? -
John:
You may want
John:
My lyre grill 1A is No.2876.
George Paul
Just a reminder the chat is up and running: However, as Loran said:
Be aware that Microsoft no longer supplies a Java runtime with Windows
XP. You have to download and install yourself. First, check your
Control Panel - Add/Remove Programs and check to see if you have Java
installed. If not,
Hello
Does anyone know if these arms have been made as reproductions? I have just
been offered a machine with a rigid arm that has a newish look to it
(Renickled maybe ?) .
thanks
Rob
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Your cylinder records sound as though they need to be reamed to properly
fit the mandrel.
If your diamond stylus is not worn then your weight maybe tight. It should
swing freely from side to side within the limit loop.
George
Just got my new Amberola 30. This is my first Amberola and I have
I have owned some cylinders that need to be reamed out a bit. They tend to
shrink a bit with age.
As far as the skipping, I would first try to make sure that nothing is hanging
up on your machine. When the stylus is in the up position, does the carriage
seem to float back and forth freely
Rob:
Yes, Victor rigid-arms have been reproduced - some beautifully. Be
careful!
George Paul
Figured it out.. I think. The spring connecting the horn with the bedplate
was off!
I assume you are attempting to play 4 min Blue Amberols on your Amberola 30.
The plaster core of BA's tends to swell over the years, causing them to not
fit on the spindle properly. This is very common with these records. The
simplest solution is to purchase a cylinder reamer from a phono parts
One other thing to look for is that the limit pin on the front of the
reproducer floats in the middle of the wire when it is playing. If not,
then adjust the horn mechanism spindle until it is. All of the other advise
is the most common fix.
Ken
- Original Message -
From:
A friend recently had the same thing happen -- I can't remember if we'd
figured out he was playing 4-minute cylinders on a 2-minute machine or
vice-versa, but that was the case with the skipping. Considering Edisons
are driven by feedscrews, it's actually pretty hard to get them to skip
That will do it. The action of a properly suspended horn should
resemble a Bobbing boat in the water.
Ron L
-Original Message-
From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org]
On Behalf Of coturn...@aol.com
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 8:15 PM
To:
In a message dated 4/4/2005 6:55:28 PM Pacific Standard Time,
pjfra...@alamedanet.net writes:
well, don't keep us in suspense here...is he doing time?
According to the Justice Dept. website, he got off easy:
On July 11, 2002, Russell Pritchard III was sentenced
outrage!
On Apr 4, 2005, at 7:45 PM, taediso...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 4/4/2005 6:55:28 PM Pacific Standard Time,
pjfra...@alamedanet.net writes:
well, don't keep us in suspense here...is he doing time?
According to the Justice Dept. website, he got
Message: 2
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 17:55:35 -0500
From: bruce78rpm bruce78...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Re: Edison Phono on Antique Road Show this week
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Message-ID: 001501c5370d$eac6d950$6401a...@custom
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Actually.. it does move... it just produces sound unrecognizable with alot of
echo
I would first check the threaded rod that lays directly underneath the mandrel.
Does that rod turn when the machine is running? If so, there is an arm with a
threaded block that attaches to the reproducer assembly. When you lower the
reproducer, does that block and arm lower down and make
Yes, the threaded rod is there and moves and the block does come in contact
with it.
Is there a pivot toward the front of the horn... or is it just supported by
that spring? Could it be the diamond, and if so how much does a replacement
one cost for an Amberola?
Thanks
In a message dated
Hey Everyone:
Last week I listed a real nice Zonophone Front Mount Concert Grand with a 30
all brass horn on eBay. The auction number is 6521321306. The machine came
close to reserve but didn't sell. So I wanted to let the list know that it's
available for $2000 including shipping anywhere
Check the diamond, and make sure the hinge block moves freely.
Steve
Actually.. it does move... it just produces sound unrecognizable with alot
of
echo
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If I had an Amberola 30 that was not tracking, I would:
1) Remove the reproducer from the carriage and disconnect it from the horn.
2) Run the machine with the carriage all the way to the left side and see
that it tracks fully to the right side. Lubricate all sliding surfaces with a
drop
In a message dated 4/6/2005 6:49:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
clockworkh...@aol.com writes:
Lubricate all sliding surfaces with a
drop of sewing machine oil. NOT 3in1 !
I use clock oil for this. Is that an acceptable substance?
Randy
In a message dated 4/6/2005 4:46:13 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
diamondisk...@aol.com writes:
I use clock oil for this. Is that an acceptable substance?
Randy
Greetings Randy:
Yes, clock oil is excellent. 3 in 1 is a paraffin based oil that actually
can harden into super glue with
Hi Al,
Where do you get a stylus microscope?
Steve
I would take my stylus microscope and examine the stylus.
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