Re: [PHP] PHP Frameworks - Opinion
What about CakePHP and Code Igniter? I know working with Code Igniter easier than CakePHP, but CakePHP is more capable than Code Igniter. On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 04:15 +0200, rich gray wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: [chop] An IDE is not a framework, it's an IDE :) Cheers, Rob. I think Rob is being unduly modest - correct me if I am wrong but he is the core developer of the InterJinn php framework - http://interjinn.com - it's been out there for a while now (read: robust, fully featured) and the ZF is still in beta I think... *lol* Thanks for the props. I don't really promote InterJinn anymore. I actively develop it as my needs arise for my customers (which is failry often) but the documentation is out of date and I haven't found time lately to improve upon that. It fulfills all my own needs (and when it doesn't I just add new stuff :) But as someone said frameworks never meet all your needs and eventually it comes down to taste and community. At any rate, there are probably hundreds of frameworks out there now, and voting for myself seems self gratifying *heheh*. BTW I posted under a different email address earlier because I just recently upgraded my email client from evolution 1.4 to 2.6.1 and it seems to be having issues with my default account setting :/ Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Frameworks - Opinion
Hidayet Dogan schreef: What about CakePHP and Code Igniter? I know working with Code Igniter easier than CakePHP, but CakePHP is more capable than Code Igniter. Hi, Lately frameworks have become a real *hype*. Currently, there are more than 40 frameworks out there, and new ones are being released daily. This gives us a wide variety of frameworks to choose from, and pick the one that fits to most of our needs. This comparison chart gives you an overview of the functionality each framework offers: http://www.phpit.net/demo/framework%20comparison/chart.php Personally, I think that the community at the Zend Framework is doing a pretty good job. Everything is coded very well, with a lot of possibilities to extend things to your personal needs (if nessecary). Regards, Andries Seutens Belgium http://andries.systray.be -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion
Gabe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for application development? There seems to be a number of them out there, but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed, secure, etc etc. Thoughts? If you want a rapid application development framework for administrative web applications then take a look at http://www.radicore.org It has dynamic menus, a role based access control system, audit logging without database triggers, a data dictionary, internationalisation, and a workflow engine. -- Tony Marston http://www.tonymarston.net http://www.radicore.org -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Frameworks - Opinion
--=neXtPaRt_1154507404 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Personally, I think that the community at the Zend Framework is doing a pretty good job. Everything is coded very well, with a lot of possibilities to extend things to your personal needs (if nessecary). The ZF is OK, its really immature though, but the advantage being that it is coded in a similar way, as well as similar thinking as our framework - chisimba (http://5ive.uwc.ac.za/ ) In fact we have used some of the components from ZF in it already. --Paul --=neXtPaRt_1154507404 Content-Type: text/plain; All Email originating from UWC is covered by disclaimer http://www.uwc.ac.za/portal/uwc2006/content/mail_disclaimer/index.htm --=neXtPaRt_1154507404-- -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Image list performance ISSUE
Hi, I have tons of images, which belongs to different users. In the software we show to the users only the images that they have, but If they take the image links manually they can also see the other images if they modify the image name in the link. Now, I can override the image request with apache rewrite and send the request to a php file, which analizes the user rights and if the user has rights to see that image. After that I output the image file with php this way: header(Content-Type: image/jpeg); header(Content-Length: .filesize($fname)); readfile($fname); ... where fname is the image file. I want to know... is this a big performance issue or not(the image is handled by php and not by apache directly) OR... Is there any other way to handle this situation??? Thanx, Andy.
[PHP] Printer Friendly
Hi all , I have a web page which need to be print to the printer. However when i use javascript window print() function , the page and alignment is out. Read on the net , suggest that i need to setup a printer friendly page in the web page. Any ideas how i going to accomplished it in php ? Thanks -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Printer Friendly
weetat wrote: Hi all , I have a web page which need to be print to the printer. However when i use javascript window print() function , the page and alignment is out. Read on the net , suggest that i need to setup a printer friendly page in the web page. Any ideas how i going to accomplished it in php ? Thanks You don't do it with php - you use css and html. Cheers -- David Robley I'd like some Chinese food, said Tom wantonly. Today is Prickle-Prickle, the 68th day of Confusion in the YOLD 3172. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Printer Friendly
weetat schreef: Hi all , I have a web page which need to be print to the printer. However when i use javascript window print() function , the page and alignment is out. Read on the net , suggest that i need to setup a printer friendly page in the web page. Any ideas how i going to accomplished it in php ? Thanks This depends on where your content comes from, and the way you have setup your output to be generated. A simple example would be to setup a new page where you display the same content, but with all the html tags stripped... Best regards, Andries Seutens Belgium http://andries.systray.be -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Image list performance ISSUE
At 12:15 PM +0300 8/2/06, Andy wrote: Hi, I have tons of images, which belongs to different users. In the software we show to the users only the images that they have, but If they take the image links manually they can also see the other images if they modify the image name in the link. -snip- Is there any other way to handle this situation??? Have each user have their own directory. tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Dynamic Images
Hello all, I am creating a a script in which a dynamic graph is generated through gd library. The format of the picture is jpeg. Now the problem is that the browser is caching the images and after updating also it is displaying the older image. Currently for clearing the cache i am using this code ?php header(Last-Modified: . gmdate(D, d M Y H:i:s) . GMT); header(Cache-Control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate); header(Cache-Control: no-cache); header(Pragma: no-cache); ? But this code is not working me. Please help me. Regards Manoj -- Manoj Kumar Singh Software Engineer Kalptaru Infotech Ltd Dawa Bazaar Indore (MP) 452001
[PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion
Tony Marston wrote: Gabe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for application development? There seems to be a number of them out there, but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed, secure, etc etc. Thoughts? If you want a rapid application development framework for administrative web applications then take a look at http://www.radicore.org It has dynamic menus, a role based access control system, audit logging without database triggers, a data dictionary, internationalisation, and a workflow engine. Speaking about framework. Anybody is aware there is a very popular framework in Java called Spring which has pretty cool features like Inversion of Control, Dependency Injection etc. Anyone interested in porting Spring Framework to PHP? Regards, Karthikeyan B -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion
karthikeyan balasubramanian wrote: Tony Marston wrote: Gabe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for application development? There seems to be a number of them out there, but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed, secure, etc etc. Thoughts? If you want a rapid application development framework for administrative web applications then take a look at http://www.radicore.org It has dynamic menus, a role based access control system, audit logging without database triggers, a data dictionary, internationalisation, and a workflow engine. Speaking about framework. Anybody is aware there is a very popular framework in Java called Spring which has pretty cool features like Inversion of Control, Dependency Injection etc. Anyone interested in porting Spring Framework to PHP? I'll have it ready for you next week, what kind of license do you want? Regards, Karthikeyan B -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Printer Friendly
At 6:03 PM +0800 8/2/06, weetat wrote: Hi all , I have a web page which need to be print to the printer. However when i use javascript window print() function , the page and alignment is out. Read on the net , suggest that i need to setup a printer friendly page in the web page. Any ideas how i going to accomplished it in php ? You can accomplish this with php, if you want -- an example follows: http://xn--ovg.com/print_html However, IMO it's *much* easier to align things (and much more) using css. tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Dynamic Images
At 6:08 PM +0530 8/2/06, Manoj Singh wrote: Hello all, I am creating a a script in which a dynamic graph is generated through gd library. The format of the picture is jpeg. Now the problem is that the browser is caching the images and after updating also it is displaying the older image. Currently for clearing the cache i am using this code ?php header(Last-Modified: . gmdate(D, d M Y H:i:s) . GMT); header(Cache-Control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate); header(Cache-Control: no-cache); header(Pragma: no-cache); ? But this code is not working me. Please help me. Regards Manoj Manoj: I had a similar problem -- if memory serves me correctly, I solved it by appending a random string to the jpg, such as graph.jeg?id=some random string. The image tag won't process the addition and the browser treats it as a new image. I think this worked for most browsers, but I may be wrong. tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion
Jochem Maas wrote: Stut wrote: Jochem Maas wrote: I'll have it ready for you next week, what kind of license do you want? One license to kill to go please. 006.5 your lic is in the post. and while I'm at it can I port an obscure OS to the hardware of your choice during my lunch break? Been done: http://mail-index.netbsd.org/tech-ports/2002/07/05/.html -Stut -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion
Jochem Maas wrote: I'll have it ready for you next week, what kind of license do you want? One license to kill to go please. -Stut -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion
Stut wrote: Jochem Maas wrote: I'll have it ready for you next week, what kind of license do you want? One license to kill to go please. 006.5 your lic is in the post. and while I'm at it can I port an obscure OS to the hardware of your choice during my lunch break? -Stut -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Documentation of PHP sourcecode
Dear all, With a growing base of previous PHP work (not to be be mistaken for a framework :) ) I also find myself recoding and reinventing the wheel. Something I really do not want to do. I am looking in some possibilities for automatically documenting my functions and classes. Preferably with some markup in the sourcecode and easy to implement. I am running Linux on my desktop so w* stuff won't do it for me :) Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance! -- Paul R. Zwiers -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Documentation of PHP sourcecode
I am looking in some possibilities for automatically documenting my functions and classes. Preferably with some markup in the sourcecode and easy to implement. I am running Linux on my desktop so w* stuff won't do it for me :) Can anyone point me in the right direction? Check out PHPDocumentor. http://www.phpdoc.org/ This is just one package of the many that are out there. A quick search on google will show others. thnx, Chris -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Documentation of PHP sourcecode
Paul Zwiers wrote: Dear all, With a growing base of previous PHP work (not to be be mistaken for a framework :) ) I also find myself recoding and reinventing the wheel. Something I really do not want to do. I am looking in some possibilities for automatically documenting my functions and classes. Preferably with some markup in the sourcecode and easy to implement. I am running Linux on my desktop so w* stuff won't do it for me :) Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance! http://www.phpdoc.org/ -- John C. Nichel IV Programmer/System Admin (ÜberGeek) Dot Com Holdings of Buffalo 716.856.9675 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Documentation of PHP sourcecode
Paul Zwiers wrote: Dear all, With a growing base of previous PHP work (not to be be mistaken for a framework :) ) I also find myself recoding and reinventing the wheel. Something I really do not want to do. I am looking in some possibilities for automatically documenting my functions and classes. Preferably with some markup in the sourcecode and easy to implement. I am running Linux on my desktop so w* stuff won't do it for me :) Can anyone point me in the right direction? google on 'phpdocumentor' - it will do exactly what your looking for (apart from write the documentation comments ;-) Thanks in advance! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion
On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 15:51 +0300, karthikeyan balasubramanian wrote: Speaking about framework. Anybody is aware there is a very popular framework in Java called Spring which has pretty cool features like Inversion of Control, Dependency Injection etc. Sounds similar to the service system implemented in InterJinn. I implemented a lookup system allowing retrieval of service objects by custom names. This allows the mapping to be overriden with userland re-definitions which may or may not extend the original class. In this way, a developer can replace components and services without the need to change the code that makes use of such objects. The only caveat is that the override must at least support the methods and properties for the service or component being overriden. I have used this in many projects to extend the core components in InterJinn to provide customers with tailored functionality for their own specific needs. A simple example was overriding the mail service to dupe outgoing emails and store in an archive. It was as simple as extending the JinnMail class, overriding the send() method, and overriding the service registration. And voila, all existing code across the project automatically inherited the functionality, and the distribution code didn't need to be touched. Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion
Gabe wrote: What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for application development? There seems to be a number of them out there, but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed, secure, etc etc. Thoughts? Sounds like it's just personal preference. But thanks for all the posts! Too bad there isn't a skeleton sort-of system that you essentially then just plug in the modules that you want/need to flesh it out. Then you'd have your own customized framework for each app that is developed and keeps *all* of the modules relevant to that app. Nothing extra would be included that isn't needed. Then as a developer all you're looking for is modules and not huge frameworks that may include lots of functionality that you don't have any interest in. It would certainly keep any attack surface smaller when it comes to vulnerabilities. Is there anything out there like that? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Documentation of PHP sourcecode
www.phpdoc.org similar to javadocs, and works pretty well. -Brad Paul Zwiers wrote: Dear all, With a growing base of previous PHP work (not to be be mistaken for a framework :) ) I also find myself recoding and reinventing the wheel. Something I really do not want to do. I am looking in some possibilities for automatically documenting my functions and classes. Preferably with some markup in the sourcecode and easy to implement. I am running Linux on my desktop so w* stuff won't do it for me :) Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion
On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 10:50 -0400, Gabe wrote: Gabe wrote: What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for application development? There seems to be a number of them out there, but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed, secure, etc etc. Thoughts? Sounds like it's just personal preference. But thanks for all the posts! Too bad there isn't a skeleton sort-of system that you essentially then just plug in the modules that you want/need to flesh it out. Then you'd have your own customized framework for each app that is developed and keeps *all* of the modules relevant to that app. Nothing extra would be included that isn't needed. Then as a developer all you're looking for is modules and not huge frameworks that may include lots of functionality that you don't have any interest in. It would certainly keep any attack surface smaller when it comes to vulnerabilities. Is there anything out there like that? A good framework won't load all of the code out there. It will load the code on an as-needed basis. So that if you only use one piece, that's the only piece loaded (notwithstanding the loading mechanism being loaded also :) Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Is this a PHP issue, or a CGI issue?
PHP List, I'm writing a PHP script that has a form which accesses a CGI script on an external web site. The CGI I am accessing is a Japanese dictionary. My form will take Japanese input, send it to the external server, and hopefully return with a list of words and definitions. I hope to be able to trap the output from the external server in such a way that I can use PHP to maniplate the output and structure it for insertion into a database. What I have for the form tag is: echo form method=\uri\ action=\http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/cgi-bin/wwwjdic?9MGI\;; The 9MGI part is syntax specific to the CGI script at monash.edu.au that I am accessing. It says to use utf8 encoding, and specifies which dictionary to use. The method is uri, so that the text included in the form will be appended to the URL. When I test my script in my FireFox browser, I get a pop up window asking me what to do with a bin file. I click to save it, and I get a file called wwwjdic on my desktop. I'm a little lost here. Is this a problem of PHP not knowing what to do with the returned output? Is it an issue with the script at monash.edu.au that I need to contact the developer about? Is it something do to with how the form action is structured? Please advise on how to diagnose and address this problem. If necessary, please tell me where this issue would be best addressed if it is not a PHP issue. Thank you for your time and help. -- Dave M G -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Is this a PHP issue, or a CGI issue?
Dave M G wrote: PHP List, I'm writing a PHP script that has a form which accesses a CGI script on an external web site. The CGI I am accessing is a Japanese dictionary. My form will take Japanese input, send it to the external server, and hopefully return with a list of words and definitions. I hope to be able to trap the output from the external server in such a way that I can use PHP to maniplate the output and structure it for insertion into a database. What I have for the form tag is: echo form method=\uri\ action=\http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/cgi-bin/wwwjdic?9MGI\;; The 9MGI part is syntax specific to the CGI script at monash.edu.au that I am accessing. It says to use utf8 encoding, and specifies which dictionary to use. The method is uri, so that the text included in the form will be appended to the URL. then the method should be 'get' no? When I test my script in my FireFox browser, I get a pop up window asking me what to do with a bin file. I click to save it, and I get a file called wwwjdic on my desktop. well your browser doesn't know what to do with the file... therefore the download. and *your* server (and it's php setup) is not involved with this transaction at all. if you want php to parse/process the output of the CGI script on the third party server then you will have to submit the form to YOUR server and have the php script that process the submit perform a request to the third party machine, something like the following (untested, would require ini setting 'allow_url_fopen' to be on, takes no account of the encoding hell you might need to go through, input sanitation/validation left out for brevity, you might not have some of the functions mentioned): ?php $url = 'http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/cgi-bin/wwwjdic?9MGI' $urlquery = http_build_query($_GET); $response = file_get_contents($url.''.$urlquery); // this is what the third party server gave you in reply to your request: var_dump($response); I'm a little lost here. Is this a problem of PHP not knowing what to do with the returned output? Is it an issue with the script at monash.edu.au that I need to contact the developer about? Is it something do to with how the form action is structured? Please advise on how to diagnose and address this problem. If necessary, please tell me where this issue would be best addressed if it is not a PHP issue. it's not a PHP issue (yet) because you have yet to involve php at any stage ... no doubt it will become a php issue in the near future ;-) Thank you for your time and help. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion
Too bad there isn't a skeleton sort-of system that you essentially then just plug in the modules that you want/need to flesh it out. Then you'd have your own customized framework for each app that is developed and keeps *all* of the modules relevant to that app. Nothing extra would be included that isn't needed. Then as a developer all you're looking for is modules and not huge frameworks that may include lots of functionality that you don't have any interest in. It would certainly keep any attack surface smaller when it comes to vulnerabilities. Is there anything out there like that? You have just described KINKY/Chisimba... --Paul All Email originating from UWC is covered by disclaimer http://www.uwc.ac.za/portal/uwc2006/content/mail_disclaimer/index.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion
On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 18:08 +0200, Jochem Maas wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 15:51 +0300, karthikeyan balasubramanian wrote: Speaking about framework. Anybody is aware there is a very popular framework in Java called Spring which has pretty cool features like Inversion of Control, Dependency Injection etc. Sounds similar to the service system implemented in InterJinn. I implemented a lookup system allowing retrieval of service objects by custom names. This allows the mapping to be overriden with userland re-definitions which may or may not extend the original class. In this way, a developer can replace components and services without the need to change the code that makes use of such objects. The only caveat is that the override must at least support the methods and properties for the service or component being overriden. I guess you'll be needing the strict method signature 'goodness'* to make you code better and more robust heh ;-) (and yes I have been following *that* thread on internals) *lol* No, I don't believe in forcing the issue. For instance providing method support does not necessarily mean same signature. For instance a subclass may provide a default value in the parameters effectively changing the signature of the parent class yet still keeping compatibility. I think the strict thing being discussed on the internals is nice to have, but I prefer the ability to change the signature when you know what you are doing, or ultimately some kind of method overloading based on parameter types signatures :) I am in the give PHP users the power they want camp, and not in the put a cage around OOP users camp. :) Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion
Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 10:50 -0400, Gabe wrote: Gabe wrote: What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for application development? There seems to be a number of them out there, but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed, secure, etc etc. Thoughts? Sounds like it's just personal preference. But thanks for all the posts! Too bad there isn't a skeleton sort-of system that you essentially then just plug in the modules that you want/need to flesh it out. Then you'd have your own customized framework for each app that is developed and keeps *all* of the modules relevant to that app. Nothing extra would be included that isn't needed. Then as a developer all you're looking for is modules and not huge frameworks that may include lots of functionality that you don't have any interest in. It would certainly keep any attack surface smaller when it comes to vulnerabilities. Is there anything out there like that? A good framework won't load all of the code out there. It will load the code on an as-needed basis. So that if you only use one piece, that's the only piece loaded (notwithstanding the loading mechanism being loaded also :) Cheers, Rob. True, but I was also talking more about the package of files to install that contains all of the code. For instance, if the Zend Framework contains 8 different modules and all of the php code files to support those 8, and I only need to use 3 of those modules for my specific app, then it would be cool to be able to not have to have all the additional code files that aren't used. I just like to keep things as small and tidy as possible. :) Of course, maybe frameworks do this and I'm just missing something... -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion
Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 18:08 +0200, Jochem Maas wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 15:51 +0300, karthikeyan balasubramanian wrote: Speaking about framework. Anybody is aware there is a very popular framework in Java called Spring which has pretty cool features like Inversion of Control, Dependency Injection etc. Sounds similar to the service system implemented in InterJinn. I implemented a lookup system allowing retrieval of service objects by custom names. This allows the mapping to be overriden with userland re-definitions which may or may not extend the original class. In this way, a developer can replace components and services without the need to change the code that makes use of such objects. The only caveat is that the override must at least support the methods and properties for the service or component being overriden. I guess you'll be needing the strict method signature 'goodness'* to make you code better and more robust heh ;-) (and yes I have been following *that* thread on internals) *lol* No, I don't believe in forcing the issue. For instance providing method support does not necessarily mean same signature. For instance a subclass may provide a default value in the parameters effectively changing the signature of the parent class yet still keeping compatibility. I think the strict thing being discussed on the internals is nice to have, but I prefer the ability to change the signature when you know what you are doing, or ultimately some kind of method overloading based on parameter types signatures :) I am in the give PHP users the power they want camp, and not in the put a cage around OOP users camp. :) I did gather that from you posts. I have mostly refrained from commenting myself because I have been flamed plenty in times past for daring to comment on the 'purism crusade' that has been unfolding since about 5.0.2 (I did comment on the problem of E_STRICT being misused for depreciated stuff, meaning that causing an E_STRICT on 'loose' subclass methods means your basically saying 'shit code, shit code' by implication) me I'm on the same band wagon, shove enforced strictness where the sun doesn't shine. (and while your at it give me 'late static binding', which A should have been in there from the beginning and B is a basic OO concept that is implemented in every other decent dynamically-typed OO language). don't get me started on iterators in ruby and how flexible it is in changing stuff (like method parameters - or like redefining a whole class at runtime). hmmm :-/ pity my ruby skills suck. :-P Cheers, Rob. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion
Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 15:51 +0300, karthikeyan balasubramanian wrote: Speaking about framework. Anybody is aware there is a very popular framework in Java called Spring which has pretty cool features like Inversion of Control, Dependency Injection etc. Sounds similar to the service system implemented in InterJinn. I implemented a lookup system allowing retrieval of service objects by custom names. This allows the mapping to be overriden with userland re-definitions which may or may not extend the original class. In this way, a developer can replace components and services without the need to change the code that makes use of such objects. The only caveat is that the override must at least support the methods and properties for the service or component being overriden. I guess you'll be needing the strict method signature 'goodness'* to make you code better and more robust heh ;-) (and yes I have been following *that* thread on internals) I have used this in many projects to extend the core components in InterJinn to provide customers with tailored functionality for their own specific needs. A simple example was overriding the mail service to dupe outgoing emails and store in an archive. It was as simple as extending the JinnMail class, overriding the send() method, and overriding the service registration. And voila, all existing code across the project automatically inherited the functionality, and the distribution code didn't need to be touched. Cheers, Rob. * 'goodness' as in 'pile of shit' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] date(n/Y) strtotime
I've always been really amazed at how well strtotime works, but recently
ran into an issue where it couldn't figure out the date if it was a cc
exp date in long format, e.g. 1/2009. I was curious if anyone else has
run into this and how did they get around it, here was my solution:
function expDate2str( $date )
{
if( !($sDate = strtotime( $date ) ) )
{
// exploded date
$eDate = explode( '/', $date );
// string date we hard code the day to 1
$sDate = strtotime( date( Y-m-d, mktime( 0, 0, 0,
$eDate[0], 1, $eDate[1] ) ) );
}
return $sDate;
}
Thanks, Mark
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Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion
Paul Scott wrote: Too bad there isn't a skeleton sort-of system that you essentially then just plug in the modules that you want/need to flesh it out. Then you'd have your own customized framework for each app that is developed and keeps *all* of the modules relevant to that app. Nothing extra would be included that isn't needed. Then as a developer all you're looking for is modules and not huge frameworks that may include lots of functionality that you don't have any interest in. It would certainly keep any attack surface smaller when it comes to vulnerabilities. Is there anything out there like that? You have just described KINKY/Chisimba... --Paul All Email originating from UWC is covered by disclaimer http://www.uwc.ac.za/portal/uwc2006/content/mail_disclaimer/index.htm I see that there are a few different Universities in Africa supporting that framework. How active is the developer community? How long has KINKY/Chisimba been around? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] date(n/Y) strtotime
Ok so actually I didn't solve it. Php5, this works, but php 4.4.1 and
4.4.0 don't handle this correctly. Here's my code I'm running on each
box:
function expDate2str( $date )
{
if( !($sDate = strtotime( $date ) ) )
{
echo Invalid, blowing up datebr /;
// exploded date
$eDate = explode( '/', $date );
// string date
$sDate = strtotime( date( Y-m-d, mktime( 0, 0, 0,
$eDate[0], 1, $eDate[1] ) ) );
}
else
{
echo validbr/;
}
echo In: .$date .br /Out: . date( Y-m-d, $sDate ) .br
/br /;
}
expDate2str('1/2009');
expDate2str( date( n/Y));
Here are the results:
Php 5.1.2
Invalid, blowing up date
In: 1/2009
Out: 2009-01-01
Invalid, blowing up date
In: 8/2006
Out: 2006-08-01
PHP 4.4.1
Valid
In: 1/2009
Out: 2011-07-02
Valid
In: 8/2006
Out: 2012-01-27
PHP 4.4.0
Valid
In: 1/2009
Out: 2011-07-02
Valid
In: 8/2006
Out: 2012-01-27
Any work around with these types of dates on php4?
Mark
-Original Message-
From: Mark Steudel
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:46 AM
To: PHP Mailing Lists
Subject: [PHP] date(n/Y) strtotime
I've always been really amazed at how well strtotime works, but recently
ran into an issue where it couldn't figure out the date if it was a cc
exp date in long format, e.g. 1/2009. I was curious if anyone else has
run into this and how did they get around it, here was my solution:
function expDate2str( $date )
{
if( !($sDate = strtotime( $date ) ) )
{
// exploded date
$eDate = explode( '/', $date );
// string date we hard code the day to 1
$sDate = strtotime( date( Y-m-d, mktime( 0, 0, 0,
$eDate[0], 1, $eDate[1] ) ) );
}
return $sDate;
}
Thanks, Mark
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[PHP] Re: date(n/Y) strtotime
Mark Steudel wrote:
I've always been really amazed at how well strtotime works, but recently
ran into an issue where it couldn't figure out the date if it was a cc
exp date in long format, e.g. 1/2009. I was curious if anyone else has
run into this and how did they get around it, here was my solution:
function expDate2str( $date )
{
if( !($sDate = strtotime( $date ) ) )
{
// exploded date
$eDate = explode( '/', $date );
// string date we hard code the day to 1
$sDate = strtotime( date( Y-m-d, mktime( 0, 0, 0,
$eDate[0], 1, $eDate[1] ) ) );
}
return $sDate;
}
Thanks, Mark
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I usually just munge the string and toss it into strtotime.
For credit card expiration dates, I'd just do this (Not going to the
lengths of your solution, just the conversion part):
$timestamp = strtotime(str_replace(/, /01/, $date));
That will turn 9/2006 into 9/01/2006 which is a GNU compatible date that
strtotime should be able to understand. It assumes that the input date
is in a certain format, but it's simpler than your solution of
exploding, then using date and mktime.
One caveat is that I'm uncertain if you need to have a trailing zero for
the month. The GNU page is somewhat unclear as it has conflicting info.
You may simply want to do these two lines instead:
if ( strlen($date) == 6 ) $date = 0 . $date;
$timestamp = strtotime(str_replace(/, /01/, $date));
Which will add the preceding zero to a date in the 9/2006 format if
required. Those two lines would get you 09/01/2006
Here's an even simpler example, which uses a ternary operator to do it
in one line:
$timestamp = strtotime(str_replace(/, /01/, strlen($date) == 6 ? 0
. $date : $date));
That will also result in 09/01/2006. Note that where we're passing
str_replace the source string to work on, we have a ternary (think of it
as an inline if statement) that checks the length, and either returns
$date, or 0 . $date.
Here's a slower (execution-wise) but easier to read version:
$timestamp = strtotime(str_replace(/, /01/, strlen($date) == 6 ?
0$date : $date));
Where I just did the concatenation inside a string, which I find easier
to read.
All these examples assume that your date is in a fixed format, namely
mm/. However, the last three should properly handle 09/2006, because
they won't add a second zero to that. So that should work either way.
Regards, Adam Zey.
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RE: [PHP] date(n/Y) strtotime
In the strtotime notes, it says that strtotime returns -1 previous to
php5, but if I do:
If( strtotime( '1/2009') == -1 )
{
Echo 'false';
}
Else
{
Echo 'true';
}
If( strtotime( '1/2009') === -1 )
{
Echo 'false';
}
Else
{
Echo 'true';
}
If( strtotime( '1/2009') == '-1' )
{
Echo 'false';
}
Else
{
Echo 'true';
}
All of those echo true, how do I determine if strtotime has failed or
not?
Mark
-Original Message-
From: Mark Steudel
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:55 AM
To: Mark Steudel; PHP Mailing Lists
Subject: RE: [PHP] date(n/Y) strtotime
Ok so actually I didn't solve it. Php5, this works, but php 4.4.1 and
4.4.0 don't handle this correctly. Here's my code I'm running on each
box:
function expDate2str( $date )
{
if( !($sDate = strtotime( $date ) ) )
{
echo Invalid, blowing up datebr /;
// exploded date
$eDate = explode( '/', $date );
// string date
$sDate = strtotime( date( Y-m-d, mktime( 0, 0, 0,
$eDate[0], 1, $eDate[1] ) ) );
}
else
{
echo validbr/;
}
echo In: .$date .br /Out: . date( Y-m-d, $sDate ) .br
/br /;
}
expDate2str('1/2009');
expDate2str( date( n/Y));
Here are the results:
Php 5.1.2
Invalid, blowing up date
In: 1/2009
Out: 2009-01-01
Invalid, blowing up date
In: 8/2006
Out: 2006-08-01
PHP 4.4.1
Valid
In: 1/2009
Out: 2011-07-02
Valid
In: 8/2006
Out: 2012-01-27
PHP 4.4.0
Valid
In: 1/2009
Out: 2011-07-02
Valid
In: 8/2006
Out: 2012-01-27
Any work around with these types of dates on php4?
Mark
-Original Message-
From: Mark Steudel
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:46 AM
To: PHP Mailing Lists
Subject: [PHP] date(n/Y) strtotime
I've always been really amazed at how well strtotime works, but recently
ran into an issue where it couldn't figure out the date if it was a cc
exp date in long format, e.g. 1/2009. I was curious if anyone else has
run into this and how did they get around it, here was my solution:
function expDate2str( $date )
{
if( !($sDate = strtotime( $date ) ) )
{
// exploded date
$eDate = explode( '/', $date );
// string date we hard code the day to 1
$sDate = strtotime( date( Y-m-d, mktime( 0, 0, 0,
$eDate[0], 1, $eDate[1] ) ) );
}
return $sDate;
}
Thanks, Mark
--
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Web Applications Developer
555 Dayton St
Suite A
Edmonds, WA 98020
p: 425.741.7014
e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion
I see that there are a few different Universities in Africa supporting that framework. How active is the developer community? How long has KINKY/Chisimba been around? The AVOIR Project has been going for about 2 years now. KINKY and KEWL.NextGen were the first products of that project. Chisimba is the PHP5 version of KINKY geared more towards a Services Oriented Architecture and a generally excellent framework. Our developers list is very active (over 100 mails a day) and we have over 60 developes in 16 countries that are active on a daily basis. Those numbers are growing constantly as well. We are always looking for others though, and the elearning aspect should not scare off other uses. We have over 20 different applications built on this framework besides elearning. All code is OOP and the overall framework is very robust. --Paul All Email originating from UWC is covered by disclaimer http://www.uwc.ac.za/portal/uwc2006/content/mail_disclaimer/index.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion
I'm not going to comment on the rest of the stuff that was said, which is why I snipped it. I'm not a purist when it comes to OO at all. But I do have to say that while iterators in ruby are amazingly powerful that leave me going wow.. that is so cool.. The thought of how they could be abused and the thought of having to support that abuse in maintenance mode gives me shivers of pure fear. And the fact that classes can very easily be defined in half a dozen places means trying to figure out what code does by finding a class and it's declarations can become a nightmare. Of course no we get off into the ruby versus php war.. maybe I shouldn't start this conversation at all... don't get me started on iterators in ruby and how flexible it is in changing stuff (like method parameters - or like redefining a whole class at runtime). hmmm :-/ pity my ruby skills suck. :-P Cheers, Rob. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] is it possible to manipulate vars here..
.. to build a url like http://devil.server.com/vitims_page.php??
// a,b,c,d are coming from a form
// and are defined in a dropdown of the form
// there are no form fields which can be filled by the user
// a maybe Germany, England
// b maybe Support, Training
// register_globals = on
function build_url(a,b,c,d) {
$urlpart[a] = parta;
// $urlpart[Germany] = Stuttgart;
$urlpart[b] = partb;
$urlpart[c] = partc;
$urlpart[d] = partd;
$url = ;
if($a!=) $url.= $url+$urlpart[a];
if($b!=) $url.= $url+$urlpart[b];
if($c!=) $url.= $url+$urlpart[c];
if($d!=) $url.= $url+$urlpart[d];
return $url;
}
$link = build_url($a,$b,$c,$d);
echo $link;
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Re: [PHP] date(n/Y) strtotime
Mark Steudel wrote:
In the strtotime notes, it says that strtotime returns -1 previous to
php5, but if I do:
If( strtotime( '1/2009') == -1 )
{
Echo 'false';
}
Else
{
Echo 'true';
}
If( strtotime( '1/2009') === -1 )
{
Echo 'false';
}
Else
{
Echo 'true';
}
If( strtotime( '1/2009') == '-1' )
{
Echo 'false';
}
Else
{
Echo 'true';
}
All of those echo true, how do I determine if strtotime has failed or
not?
Mark
-Original Message-
From: Mark Steudel
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:55 AM
To: Mark Steudel; PHP Mailing Lists
Subject: RE: [PHP] date(n/Y) strtotime
Ok so actually I didn't solve it. Php5, this works, but php 4.4.1 and
4.4.0 don't handle this correctly. Here's my code I'm running on each
box:
function expDate2str( $date )
{
if( !($sDate = strtotime( $date ) ) )
{
echo Invalid, blowing up datebr /;
// exploded date
$eDate = explode( '/', $date );
// string date
$sDate = strtotime( date( Y-m-d, mktime( 0, 0, 0,
$eDate[0], 1, $eDate[1] ) ) );
}
else
{
echo validbr/;
}
echo In: .$date .br /Out: . date( Y-m-d, $sDate ) .br
/br /;
}
expDate2str('1/2009');
expDate2str( date( n/Y));
Here are the results:
Php 5.1.2
Invalid, blowing up date
In: 1/2009
Out: 2009-01-01
Invalid, blowing up date
In: 8/2006
Out: 2006-08-01
PHP 4.4.1
Valid
In: 1/2009
Out: 2011-07-02
Valid
In: 8/2006
Out: 2012-01-27
PHP 4.4.0
Valid
In: 1/2009
Out: 2011-07-02
Valid
In: 8/2006
Out: 2012-01-27
Any work around with these types of dates on php4?
Mark
-Original Message-
From: Mark Steudel
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:46 AM
To: PHP Mailing Lists
Subject: [PHP] date(n/Y) strtotime
I've always been really amazed at how well strtotime works, but recently
ran into an issue where it couldn't figure out the date if it was a cc
exp date in long format, e.g. 1/2009. I was curious if anyone else has
run into this and how did they get around it, here was my solution:
function expDate2str( $date )
{
if( !($sDate = strtotime( $date ) ) )
{
// exploded date
$eDate = explode( '/', $date );
// string date we hard code the day to 1
$sDate = strtotime( date( Y-m-d, mktime( 0, 0, 0,
$eDate[0], 1, $eDate[1] ) ) );
}
return $sDate;
}
Thanks, Mark
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Web Applications Developer
555 Dayton St
Suite A
Edmonds, WA 98020
p: 425.741.7014
e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
w: http://www.netriver.net
Did you try my code? It's a lot simpler than yours, faster too. And I
just tried executing it to confirm that it works.
The problem with your comparison is that strtotime thinks the date is
invalid, but misinterprets it. But since once you decide the date is
invalid you assume it's in a given format, it is enough to simply check
that it's in the certain format to begin with. I don't know how complex
you want to get with this, here's a relatively simple if statement to do
the check:
if ( 6 = strlen($date) = 7 substr_count($date, /) == 1 )
Which checks that the length is from our credit card strings, and that
it looks somewhat valid (You could go more in depth in checking, but
this'll do for now).
Now, that new comparison would be needed for your code, but I'll rewrite
your function to use my simpler method of conversion:
?php
function expDate2str($date)
{
$datelen = strlen($date);
if ( ($datelen == 6 || $datelen == 7) substr_count($date, /) == 1 )
{
echo Invalid, blowing up datebr/;
$sDate = strtotime(str_replace(/, /01/, strlen($date) == 6 ?
0$date : $date));
}
else
{
echo validbr/;
}
echo In: $datebr/Out: . date( Y-m-d, $sDate ) .br/br/;
}
expDate2str('1/2009');
expDate2str( date( n/Y));
?
Which when I run it (in PHP 4 though) prints out this:
Invalid, blowing up date
In: 1/2009
Out: 2009-01-01
Invalid, blowing up date
In: 8/2006
Out: 2006-08-01
For the heck of it, here's a more production-oriented version of the
function/test script:
?php
function expDate2str($date)
{
$datelen = strlen($date);
if ( ($datelen == 6 || $datelen == 7) substr_count($date, /) == 1 )
return date(Y-m-d, strtotime(str_replace(/, /01/, strlen($date)
== 6 ? 0$date : $date)));
else
return date(Y-m-d, $date);
}
echo expDate2str('1/2009');
echo br/;
echo expDate2str( date( n/Y));
?
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Re: [PHP] is it possible to manipulate vars here..
On 02/08/06, Jochen Kaechelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. to build a url like http://devil.server.com/vitims_page.php?? Not sure what you're trying to do, but switch register_globals OFF. Also, if you are trying to concatenate strings inside the function, use ., not +. -- http://www.web-buddha.co.uk http://www.projectkarma.co.uk
[PHP] override core function
Is it possible to override the core built-in function exit() in PHP. If so, how can I call the the built-in exit() from within my function? Thanks Khai -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] override core function
On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 12:26 -0700, Khai wrote: Is it possible to override the core built-in function exit() in PHP. If so, how can I call the the built-in exit() from within my function? No, but the following might help you: http://www.php.net/register_shutdown_function Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Documentation of PHP sourcecode
Paul Zwiers wrote: Dear all, With a growing base of previous PHP work (not to be be mistaken for a framework :) ) I also find myself recoding and reinventing the wheel. Something I really do not want to do. I am looking in some possibilities for automatically documenting my functions and classes. Preferably with some markup in the sourcecode and easy to implement. I am running Linux on my desktop so w* stuff won't do it for me :) Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance! Seeing as everyone else is saying PHPdoc, I'll say Doxygen... I'd be interested to hear peoples opinions on one verses the other to be honest. I used to use Doxygen but have been slightly rubbish of late with keeping that up to date. AFAIK the same comment style is supported in both Doxygen and PHPDoc, so it's just down to features of the resulted documentation and personal preference really Any thoughts/personal preferences people want to share? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] date(n/Y) strtotime
Thanks Adam,
I had sent out my second email before I had read yours. I'll give yours
a go, thanks again.
Mark
-Original Message-
From: Adam Zey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:15 AM
To: Mark Steudel
Cc: PHP Mailing Lists
Subject: Re: [PHP] date(n/Y) strtotime
Mark Steudel wrote:
In the strtotime notes, it says that strtotime returns -1 previous to
php5, but if I do:
If( strtotime( '1/2009') == -1 )
{
Echo 'false';
}
Else
{
Echo 'true';
}
If( strtotime( '1/2009') === -1 )
{
Echo 'false';
}
Else
{
Echo 'true';
}
If( strtotime( '1/2009') == '-1' )
{
Echo 'false';
}
Else
{
Echo 'true';
}
All of those echo true, how do I determine if strtotime has failed or
not?
Mark
-Original Message-
From: Mark Steudel
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:55 AM
To: Mark Steudel; PHP Mailing Lists
Subject: RE: [PHP] date(n/Y) strtotime
Ok so actually I didn't solve it. Php5, this works, but php 4.4.1 and
4.4.0 don't handle this correctly. Here's my code I'm running on each
box:
function expDate2str( $date )
{
if( !($sDate = strtotime( $date ) ) )
{
echo Invalid, blowing up datebr /;
// exploded date
$eDate = explode( '/', $date );
// string date
$sDate = strtotime( date( Y-m-d, mktime( 0, 0, 0,
$eDate[0], 1, $eDate[1] ) ) );
}
else
{
echo validbr/;
}
echo In: .$date .br /Out: . date( Y-m-d, $sDate ) .br
/br /;
}
expDate2str('1/2009');
expDate2str( date( n/Y));
Here are the results:
Php 5.1.2
Invalid, blowing up date
In: 1/2009
Out: 2009-01-01
Invalid, blowing up date
In: 8/2006
Out: 2006-08-01
PHP 4.4.1
Valid
In: 1/2009
Out: 2011-07-02
Valid
In: 8/2006
Out: 2012-01-27
PHP 4.4.0
Valid
In: 1/2009
Out: 2011-07-02
Valid
In: 8/2006
Out: 2012-01-27
Any work around with these types of dates on php4?
Mark
-Original Message-
From: Mark Steudel
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:46 AM
To: PHP Mailing Lists
Subject: [PHP] date(n/Y) strtotime
I've always been really amazed at how well strtotime works, but
recently
ran into an issue where it couldn't figure out the date if it was a cc
exp date in long format, e.g. 1/2009. I was curious if anyone else has
run into this and how did they get around it, here was my solution:
function expDate2str( $date )
{
if( !($sDate = strtotime( $date ) ) )
{
// exploded date
$eDate = explode( '/', $date );
// string date we hard code the day to 1
$sDate = strtotime( date( Y-m-d, mktime( 0, 0, 0,
$eDate[0], 1, $eDate[1] ) ) );
}
return $sDate;
}
Thanks, Mark
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Edmonds, WA 98020
p: 425.741.7014
e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
w: http://www.netriver.net
Did you try my code? It's a lot simpler than yours, faster too. And I
just tried executing it to confirm that it works.
The problem with your comparison is that strtotime thinks the date is
invalid, but misinterprets it. But since once you decide the date is
invalid you assume it's in a given format, it is enough to simply check
that it's in the certain format to begin with. I don't know how complex
you want to get with this, here's a relatively simple if statement to do
the check:
if ( 6 = strlen($date) = 7 substr_count($date, /) == 1 )
Which checks that the length is from our credit card strings, and that
it looks somewhat valid (You could go more in depth in checking, but
this'll do for now).
Now, that new comparison would be needed for your code, but I'll rewrite
your function to use my simpler method of conversion:
?php
function expDate2str($date)
{
$datelen = strlen($date);
if ( ($datelen == 6 || $datelen == 7) substr_count($date,
/) == 1 )
{
echo Invalid, blowing up datebr/;
$sDate = strtotime(str_replace(/, /01/,
strlen($date) == 6 ?
0$date : $date));
}
else
{
echo validbr/;
}
echo In: $datebr/Out: . date( Y-m-d, $sDate )
.br/br/;
}
expDate2str('1/2009');
expDate2str( date( n/Y));
?
Which when I run it (in PHP 4 though) prints out this:
Invalid, blowing up date
In: 1/2009
Out: 2009-01-01
Invalid, blowing up date
In: 8/2006
Out: 2006-08-01
For the heck of it, here's a more production-oriented version of the
function/test script:
?php
function expDate2str($date)
{
$datelen = strlen($date);
if ( ($datelen == 6 || $datelen == 7) substr_count($date,
/) == 1 )
return date(Y-m-d, strtotime(str_replace(/, /01/,
strlen($date)
== 6 ? 0$date : $date)));
else
Re: [PHP] date(n/Y) strtotime
Actually, I made a mistake in my latest reply. I said The problem with
your comparison is that strtotime thinks the date is invalid, but
misinterprets it.
I actually mean, it thinks it is VALID, but misinterprets it.
Regards, Adam.
Mark Steudel wrote:
Thanks Adam,
I had sent out my second email before I had read yours. I'll give yours
a go, thanks again.
Mark
-Original Message-
From: Adam Zey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:15 AM
To: Mark Steudel
Cc: PHP Mailing Lists
Subject: Re: [PHP] date(n/Y) strtotime
Mark Steudel wrote:
In the strtotime notes, it says that strtotime returns -1 previous to
php5, but if I do:
If( strtotime( '1/2009') == -1 )
{
Echo 'false';
}
Else
{
Echo 'true';
}
If( strtotime( '1/2009') === -1 )
{
Echo 'false';
}
Else
{
Echo 'true';
}
If( strtotime( '1/2009') == '-1' )
{
Echo 'false';
}
Else
{
Echo 'true';
}
All of those echo true, how do I determine if strtotime has failed or
not?
Mark
-Original Message-
From: Mark Steudel
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:55 AM
To: Mark Steudel; PHP Mailing Lists
Subject: RE: [PHP] date(n/Y) strtotime
Ok so actually I didn't solve it. Php5, this works, but php 4.4.1 and
4.4.0 don't handle this correctly. Here's my code I'm running on each
box:
function expDate2str( $date )
{
if( !($sDate = strtotime( $date ) ) )
{
echo Invalid, blowing up datebr /;
// exploded date
$eDate = explode( '/', $date );
// string date
$sDate = strtotime( date( Y-m-d, mktime( 0, 0, 0,
$eDate[0], 1, $eDate[1] ) ) );
}
else
{
echo validbr/;
}
echo In: .$date .br /Out: . date( Y-m-d, $sDate ) .br
/br /;
}
expDate2str('1/2009');
expDate2str( date( n/Y));
Here are the results:
Php 5.1.2
Invalid, blowing up date
In: 1/2009
Out: 2009-01-01
Invalid, blowing up date
In: 8/2006
Out: 2006-08-01
PHP 4.4.1
Valid
In: 1/2009
Out: 2011-07-02
Valid
In: 8/2006
Out: 2012-01-27
PHP 4.4.0
Valid
In: 1/2009
Out: 2011-07-02
Valid
In: 8/2006
Out: 2012-01-27
Any work around with these types of dates on php4?
Mark
-Original Message-
From: Mark Steudel
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:46 AM
To: PHP Mailing Lists
Subject: [PHP] date(n/Y) strtotime
I've always been really amazed at how well strtotime works, but
recently
ran into an issue where it couldn't figure out the date if it was a cc
exp date in long format, e.g. 1/2009. I was curious if anyone else has
run into this and how did they get around it, here was my solution:
function expDate2str( $date )
{
if( !($sDate = strtotime( $date ) ) )
{
// exploded date
$eDate = explode( '/', $date );
// string date we hard code the day to 1
$sDate = strtotime( date( Y-m-d, mktime( 0, 0, 0,
$eDate[0], 1, $eDate[1] ) ) );
}
return $sDate;
}
Thanks, Mark
--
Mark Steudel
Web Applications Developer
555 Dayton St
Suite A
Edmonds, WA 98020
p: 425.741.7014
e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
w: http://www.netriver.net
Did you try my code? It's a lot simpler than yours, faster too. And I
just tried executing it to confirm that it works.
The problem with your comparison is that strtotime thinks the date is
invalid, but misinterprets it. But since once you decide the date is
invalid you assume it's in a given format, it is enough to simply check
that it's in the certain format to begin with. I don't know how complex
you want to get with this, here's a relatively simple if statement to do
the check:
if ( 6 = strlen($date) = 7 substr_count($date, /) == 1 )
Which checks that the length is from our credit card strings, and that
it looks somewhat valid (You could go more in depth in checking, but
this'll do for now).
Now, that new comparison would be needed for your code, but I'll rewrite
your function to use my simpler method of conversion:
?php
function expDate2str($date)
{
$datelen = strlen($date);
if ( ($datelen == 6 || $datelen == 7) substr_count($date,
/) == 1 )
{
echo Invalid, blowing up datebr/;
$sDate = strtotime(str_replace(/, /01/,
strlen($date) == 6 ?
0$date : $date));
}
else
{
echo validbr/;
}
echo In: $datebr/Out: . date( Y-m-d, $sDate )
.br/br/;
}
expDate2str('1/2009');
expDate2str( date( n/Y));
?
Which when I run it (in PHP 4 though) prints out this:
Invalid, blowing up date
In: 1/2009
Out: 2009-01-01
Invalid, blowing up date
In: 8/2006
Out: 2006-08-01
For the heck of it, here's a more production-oriented version of the
function/test script:
?php
function expDate2str($date)
{
$datelen = strlen($date);
if (
[PHP] SQL injection
Hi all, I saw some strange error messages from a site when I was surfing it, and it was in form of SQL. I did some testing of the security of the SQL injection protection of that site, and it showed it was not that protected against SQL injections. To show this to them, I deleted my own record in their database after finding out the table name of the entity in the database. I also found out a lot of other that I think is important table names. What I did to them was to report this to them, and inform them about the damage I created, and what could have been done. (I did DELETE FROM tablename WHERE id=1234, what if I did DELETE FROM tablename, destruction if no backup). This is a large athletic site in Sweden, with more then 100,000 daily visitors. What I am a little bit worried about is the legal part of this; can I be accused of breaking some laws? I was just doing it to check if they were protected, and I informed them about my process etc. I only deleted my record, no one else's. In Sweden it might have been called computer break-in, but I am not sure. Anyone with experience of a similar thing? Best regards, Peter Lauri
Re: [PHP] SQL injection
This is a good question and it, by and large, has not been considered. In this particular instance, their programming is not protected by any kind of encryption laws that would prevent decryption (such as developing and deploying the decryption of Adobe Ebooks format). Furthermore, because you reported the flaw directly to the webmaster and did not publish it, there is no way that you caused any meaningful damage, nor were you acting maliciously. I have exposed XSS errors before on Google via my blog, even wrote a program for April Fools that let you use XSS to post fake articles to real news sites, and never got in trouble for it. You did not even announce the error to the community, so you should be completely safe. In real life terms, if you walked into the store and saw that the cash register was slightly broken and slightly opened, and reached in and pulled out a dollar to show the cashier what was wrong, you would not get in trouble. It may be bold, but it is not a crime. On 8/2/06, Peter Lauri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I saw some strange error messages from a site when I was surfing it, and it was in form of SQL. I did some testing of the security of the SQL injection protection of that site, and it showed it was not that protected against SQL injections. To show this to them, I deleted my own record in their database after finding out the table name of the entity in the database. I also found out a lot of other that I think is important table names. What I did to them was to report this to them, and inform them about the damage I created, and what could have been done. (I did DELETE FROM tablename WHERE id=1234, what if I did DELETE FROM tablename, destruction if no backup). This is a large athletic site in Sweden, with more then 100,000 daily visitors. What I am a little bit worried about is the legal part of this; can I be accused of breaking some laws? I was just doing it to check if they were protected, and I informed them about my process etc. I only deleted my record, no one else's. In Sweden it might have been called computer break-in, but I am not sure. Anyone with experience of a similar thing? Best regards, Peter Lauri
Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion
Kilbride, James P. wrote: I'm not going to comment on the rest of the stuff that was said, which is why I snipped it. I'm not a purist when it comes to OO at all. But I do have to say that while iterators in ruby are amazingly powerful that leave me going wow.. that is so cool.. The thought of how they could be abused and the thought of having to support that abuse in maintenance mode gives me shivers of pure fear. And the fact that classes can very easily be defined in half a dozen places means trying to figure out what code does by finding a class and it's declarations can become a nightmare. you make very good points. it's tribute to php that code written in it is so transparent comparitively speaking. it might a little less nimble and a bit more verbose but when your debugging someone else's spaghetti that's a bonus :-) but taking away flexibility doesn't take away the ability to write monsterous, spaghetti OO - I'm quite sure I could write stuff like that whilst conforming to any/all purist rules you want to throw at me ;-) Of course no we get off into the ruby versus php war.. maybe I shouldn't start this conversation at all... no war here, move along, these are not the droids your looking for. don't get me started on iterators in ruby and how flexible it is in changing stuff (like method parameters - or like redefining a whole class at runtime). hmmm :-/ pity my ruby skills suck. :-P Cheers, Rob. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] What good are constants if you can't use them in an array?
*sigh*
Why is PHP so lame...
?php
class PHPISLAME
{
const STOP = 0;
const START = 1;
const PAUSE = 2;
public static $STATES = array(
STOP = 'Stopped',
START = 'Started',
PAUSE = 'Paused'
);
public static $STATESHACK = array(
0 = 'Stopped',
1 = 'Started',
2 = 'Paused'
);
}
print_r(PHPISLAME::$STATES);
print_r(PHPISLAME::$STATESHACK);
?
What is this crap!!?:
Array ( [STOP] = Stopped [START] = Started [PAUSE] = Paused )
Array ( [0] = Stopped [1] = Started [2] = Paused )
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Re: [PHP] SQL injection
Russell Jones wrote: This is a good question and it, by and large, has not been considered. In this particular instance, their programming is not protected by any kind of encryption laws that would prevent decryption (such as developing and deploying the decryption of Adobe Ebooks format). Furthermore, because you reported the flaw directly to the webmaster and did not publish it, there is no way that you caused any meaningful damage, nor were you acting maliciously. I have exposed XSS errors before on Google via my blog, even wrote a program for April Fools that let you use XSS to post fake articles to real news sites, and never got in trouble for it. You did not even announce the error to the community, so you should be completely safe. In real life terms, if you walked into the store and saw that the cash register was slightly broken and slightly opened, and reached in and pulled out a dollar to show the cashier what was wrong, you would not get in trouble. It may be bold, but it is not a crime. technically removing the dollar is a crime regardless of your intention. with regard to find vulnerabilities you are, in the US atleast, technically at the mercy of the site owner as to whether legal action could be taken against you. read the following for at least 2 examples: http://www.securityfocus.com/news/11389/ one would hope sweden has less idiotic laws, and smarter IT managers. you did the site a service, and hopefully they are smart enough to see it that way. I would though in future, if you enjoy this kind of research, ask permission to examine a site's security from the owners to be safe. my personal opinion is that vulnerability research is a great game for nice people who are looking to get shafted in a big way. which is a sad state of affairs alround, but there you have it. On 8/2/06, Peter Lauri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I saw some strange error messages from a site when I was surfing it, and it was in form of SQL. I did some testing of the security of the SQL injection protection of that site, and it showed it was not that protected against SQL injections. To show this to them, I deleted my own record in their database after finding out the table name of the entity in the database. I also found out a lot of other that I think is important table names. What I did to them was to report this to them, and inform them about the damage I created, and what could have been done. (I did DELETE FROM tablename WHERE id=1234, what if I did DELETE FROM tablename, destruction if no backup). This is a large athletic site in Sweden, with more then 100,000 daily visitors. What I am a little bit worried about is the legal part of this; can I be accused of breaking some laws? I was just doing it to check if they were protected, and I informed them about my process etc. I only deleted my record, no one else's. In Sweden it might have been called computer break-in, but I am not sure. Anyone with experience of a similar thing? Best regards, Peter Lauri -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] What good are constants if you can't use them in an array?
On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 15:24 -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote:
*sigh*
Why is PHP so lame...
Why are you trolling on the PHP list?
?php
class PHPISLAME
{
const STOP = 0;
const START = 1;
const PAUSE = 2;
public static $STATES = array(
STOP = 'Stopped',
START = 'Started',
PAUSE = 'Paused'
);
public static $STATESHACK = array(
0 = 'Stopped',
1 = 'Started',
2 = 'Paused'
);
}
print_r(PHPISLAME::$STATES);
print_r(PHPISLAME::$STATESHACK);
?
What is this crap!!?:
Array ( [STOP] = Stopped [START] = Started [PAUSE] = Paused )
Array ( [0] = Stopped [1] = Started [2] = Paused )
PHP assumes type string for for undefined constants. If you weren't so
lame and had error reporting at a high enough level you would have been
well notified. My guess is that you are referencing a constant before
the class has been declared. You are expecting that the class
information exists at the same time of declaration. While I'm sure there
are ways to make it happen, it's up to you to ask the PHP internals to
solve your chicken egg problem... and I doubt it will happen with your
lame attitude.
Cheers,
Rob.
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Re: [PHP] What good are constants if you can't use them in an array?
Daevid Vincent wrote:
*sigh*
Why is PHP so lame...
you know the story about the bad workman and his tools?
please go and read the manual entry regarding how to reference
class constants.
?php
class PHPISLAME
{
const STOP = 0;
const START = 1;
const PAUSE = 2;
public static $STATES = array(
STOP = 'Stopped',
START = 'Started',
PAUSE = 'Paused'
);
public static $STATESHACK = array(
0 = 'Stopped',
1 = 'Started',
2 = 'Paused'
);
}
print_r(PHPISLAME::$STATES);
print_r(PHPISLAME::$STATESHACK);
?
What is this crap!!?:
what that crap is would be self evident if you bothered to
turn on E_NOTICEs in your error_reporting. (hint: what does
php do with undefined constants?)
Array ( [STOP] = Stopped [START] = Started [PAUSE] = Paused )
Array ( [0] = Stopped [1] = Started [2] = Paused )
oh would you look at this
$ php -v
PHP 5.1.4-pl0-gentoo (cli) (built: Jul 5 2006 18:26:03)
Copyright (c) 1997-2006 The PHP Group
Zend Engine v2.1.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2006 Zend Technologies
? php -r 'class Test {const MYTEST = 3;public static $S = array( Test::MYTEST
= TEST );}var_dump(Test::$S);'
array(1) {
[3]=
string(4) TEST
}
... now take a deep breath and relax :-)
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Re: [PHP] What good are constants if you can't use them in an array?
On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 18:56 -0400, Robert Cummings wrote:
On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 15:24 -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote:
*sigh*
Why is PHP so lame...
Why are you trolling on the PHP list?
?php
class PHPISLAME
{
const STOP = 0;
const START = 1;
const PAUSE = 2;
public static $STATES = array(
STOP = 'Stopped',
START = 'Started',
PAUSE = 'Paused'
);
public static $STATESHACK = array(
0 = 'Stopped',
1 = 'Started',
2 = 'Paused'
);
}
print_r(PHPISLAME::$STATES);
print_r(PHPISLAME::$STATESHACK);
?
What is this crap!!?:
Array ( [STOP] = Stopped [START] = Started [PAUSE] = Paused )
Array ( [0] = Stopped [1] = Started [2] = Paused )
PHP assumes type string for for undefined constants. If you weren't so
lame and had error reporting at a high enough level you would have been
well notified. My guess is that you are referencing a constant before
the class has been declared. You are expecting that the class
information exists at the same time of declaration. While I'm sure there
are ways to make it happen, it's up to you to ask the PHP internals to
solve your chicken egg problem... and I doubt it will happen with your
lame attitude.
Furthermore, you aren't even using them properly. The documentation
clearly shows the following usage:
ClassName::constant
self::constant
parent::constant
Sheeesh!
Cheers,
Rob.
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RE: [PHP] What good are constants if you can't use them in anarray? [solved] I'm a jerk.
Why is PHP so lame... Why are you trolling on the PHP list? Not trolling. Just frustrated. Apologies. Furthermore, you aren't even using them properly. The documentation clearly shows the following usage: ClassName::constant This is how you have to use it. self::constant parent::constant These don't work. Okay. I deserve the new a$$hole I was ripped by the list. Sorry. I'll crawl back into my hole now... ;-) d -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Dynamic Images
On Wed, August 2, 2006 7:38 am, Manoj Singh wrote: I am creating a a script in which a dynamic graph is generated through gd library. The format of the picture is jpeg. Now the problem is that the browser is caching the images and after updating also it is displaying the older image. Currently for clearing the cache i am using this code ?php header(Last-Modified: . gmdate(D, d M Y H:i:s) . GMT); header(Cache-Control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate); header(Cache-Control: no-cache); header(Pragma: no-cache); ? But this code is not working me. Please help me. Unfortunately, all the headers in the world won't fix ALL the browsers, because there is always somebody (browser or intermediary caching server like AOHell) that thinks they know better than you when to cache an image. You'll spend hours fixing this with different headers, and it will work in all your browser tests, and then somebody using Fred's Warehouse Browser will send in a bug report that your site is broken Also note that only the SECOND Cache-Control: header is being sent by PHP unless you use the optional second arg to ask PHP to send both: http://php.net/header The best solution to this is to change your IMG tag to have a random number in it, so that the cached image is never the same URL, so it never gets used. Stupid, I know, and wasteful of the browser cache disk space, but there it is. It works. -- Like Music? http://l-i-e.com/artists.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Dynamically assigning var namesi
On Tue, August 1, 2006 12:49 pm, bob pilly wrote: Does anyone know if you can assign a new variable name based on the contents of another variable in PHP? If so whats the syntax to do this? You can and it's called Variable Variables in the documentation... 99% of the time, it's better to use an array. I am parsing a text file that has tens of preset attributes and some of these have hundreds of sub attributes. For example the text file contains flight details, on every flight there can be up to 500 passengers but there are generally only 50 so i dont want to have declare 500 vars when i hardly ever use them. What i am trying to do is count the amount of pasengers present and dynamically create the variables based on this.$surname1,$surname2 etc... Im not sure whether this is a sane way to approach this problem or not. Any advice or pointing to relevant documentation about either syntax for this or ways of tackling this sort of problem (im sure it must be a regular occurance in the coding world??) would be greatly appreciated!! In this case, it's DEFINITELY better to use an array, as it is almost guaranteed that sooner or later you will have a flight with two people named John Smith on it. -- Like Music? http://l-i-e.com/artists.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Dynamic Images
Richard Lynch wrote: On Wed, August 2, 2006 7:38 am, Manoj Singh wrote: I am creating a a script in which a dynamic graph is generated through gd library. The format of the picture is jpeg. Now the problem is that the browser is caching the images and after updating also it is displaying the older image. Currently for clearing the cache i am using this code ?php header(Last-Modified: . gmdate(D, d M Y H:i:s) . GMT); header(Cache-Control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate); header(Cache-Control: no-cache); header(Pragma: no-cache); ? But this code is not working me. Please help me. Unfortunately, all the headers in the world won't fix ALL the browsers, because there is always somebody (browser or intermediary caching server like AOHell) that thinks they know better than you when to cache an image. You'll spend hours fixing this with different headers, and it will work in all your browser tests, and then somebody using Fred's Warehouse Browser will send in a bug report that your site is broken Also note that only the SECOND Cache-Control: header is being sent by PHP unless you use the optional second arg to ask PHP to send both: http://php.net/header The best solution to this is to change your IMG tag to have a random number in it, so that the cached image is never the same URL, so it never gets used. Stupid, I know, and wasteful of the browser cache disk space, but there it is. It works. nevermind their diskspace, what about my bandwidth? - do I really need to cough up extra readies because some muppet refused to exchange his AOL connection for something resembling a proper ISP? granted yours is pragmatic solution to the problem but should we support shit ISPs, proxies and sunday-driver browser-wannabees with our/our-clients cash? feel free to ignore, it's late and I felt like playing devil's advocate. :-) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] What good are constants if you can't use them in anarray? [solved] I'm a jerk.
Daevid Vincent wrote: Why is PHP so lame... Why are you trolling on the PHP list? Not trolling. Just frustrated. Apologies. Furthermore, you aren't even using them properly. The documentation clearly shows the following usage: ClassName::constant This is how you have to use it. self::constant parent::constant These don't work. they should work, but only when used in running code - if you use class constant in static property definitions (ala your array) you need to explicitly name the class. Okay. I deserve the new a$$hole I was ripped by the list. Sorry. I'll crawl back into my hole now... ;-) make sure it's not that new hole ... the paint is still drying :-P d -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] override core function
Khai wrote: Is it possible to override the core built-in function exit() in PHP. If so, how can I call the the built-in exit() from within my function? Thanks Khai I think you can override any core function by messing with the internals (though I could be wrong). But then you have to maintain that patch for your code to work in the various versions that you run/move to. Is this a good idea - in my humble opinion - NO! Personally I would try to either find a different way to do whatever it is you are doing or find a workaround. Just because you can do it - doesn't mean you should. -- life is a game... so have fun. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Documentation of PHP sourcecode
Chris Boget wrote: I am looking in some possibilities for automatically documenting my functions and classes. Preferably with some markup in the sourcecode and easy to implement. I am running Linux on my desktop so w* stuff won't do it for me :) Can anyone point me in the right direction? Check out PHPDocumentor. http://www.phpdoc.org/ This is just one package of the many that are out there. A quick search on google will show others. thnx, Chris And if you use vim - there is a plugin to automatically generate some basic documentation. http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1355 -- life is a game... so have fun. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] SQL injection
Peter Lauri wrote: Hi all, I saw some strange error messages from a site when I was surfing it, and it was in form of SQL. I did some testing of the security of the SQL injection protection of that site, and it showed it was not that protected against SQL injections. To show this to them, I deleted my own record in their database after finding out the table name of the entity in the database. I also found out a lot of other that I think is important table names. What I did to them was to report this to them, and inform them about the damage I created, and what could have been done. (I did DELETE FROM tablename WHERE id=1234, what if I did DELETE FROM tablename, destruction if no backup). This is a large athletic site in Sweden, with more then 100,000 daily visitors. What I am a little bit worried about is the legal part of this; can I be accused of breaking some laws? I was just doing it to check if they were protected, and I informed them about my process etc. I only deleted my record, no one else's. In Sweden it might have been called computer break-in, but I am not sure. Anyone with experience of a similar thing? Best regards, Peter Lauri read http://shiflett.org/archive/236 -- life is a game... so have fun. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion
Hello, on 08/01/2006 01:35 PM Gabe said the following: What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for application development? There seems to be a number of them out there, but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed, secure, etc etc. Thoughts? There is no common consense. PHP development is not very well organized, like for instance in the Java world where several vendors can provide their own implementations of the same specification. This makes possible to use the same framework API from whatever vendor you prefer. In the PHP world all frameworks are incompatible, even when they attempt to implement similar feature sets. Anyway, you may want to read this more in depth reflection of the state of the PHP framework world and recommendations on how to pick what suits best for you: http://www.phpclasses.org/blog/post/52-Recommended-PHP-frameworks.html -- Regards, Manuel Lemos Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator http://www.metastorage.net/ PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 00:29 -0300, Manuel Lemos wrote: Hello, on 08/01/2006 01:35 PM Gabe said the following: What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for application development? There seems to be a number of them out there, but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed, secure, etc etc. Thoughts? There is no common consense. PHP development is not very well organized, like for instance in the Java world where several vendors can provide their own implementations of the same specification. This makes possible to use the same framework API from whatever vendor you prefer. In the PHP world all frameworks are incompatible, even when they attempt to implement similar feature sets. Anyway, you may want to read this more in depth reflection of the state of the PHP framework world and recommendations on how to pick what suits best for you: http://www.phpclasses.org/blog/post/52-Recommended-PHP-frameworks.html I've read it before... it was crud. You provide no recommendation for any framework but instead try to pimp phpclasses. From what I gathered you haven't even actually tried anywhere in the vicinity of 10% of the frameworks in existence and yet you feel obliged to write a commenatary called Recommended PHP Frameworks in which you don't even recommend a framework. Additionally somehow while pimping phpclasses you also feel it necessary to indicate how you don't use any code other than what you write yourself. Egads, if you won't use the code on your site why the hell should anyone else? Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion
Hello, on 08/03/2006 01:24 AM Robert Cummings said the following: What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for application development? There seems to be a number of them out there, but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed, secure, etc etc. Thoughts? There is no common consense. PHP development is not very well organized, like for instance in the Java world where several vendors can provide their own implementations of the same specification. This makes possible to use the same framework API from whatever vendor you prefer. In the PHP world all frameworks are incompatible, even when they attempt to implement similar feature sets. Anyway, you may want to read this more in depth reflection of the state of the PHP framework world and recommendations on how to pick what suits best for you: http://www.phpclasses.org/blog/post/52-Recommended-PHP-frameworks.html I've read it before... it was crud. You provide no recommendation for any framework but instead try to pimp phpclasses. From what I gathered you haven't even actually tried anywhere in the vicinity of 10% of the frameworks in existence and yet you feel obliged to write a commenatary called Recommended PHP Frameworks in which you don't even recommend a framework. Additionally somehow while pimping phpclasses you also feel it necessary to indicate how you don't use any code other than what you write yourself. Egads, if you won't use the code on your site why the hell should anyone else? The answer to that question is in the post. I only use my own (PHP) packages because I can. Not everybody can afford writing package for their own needs from scratch. Why would I lie when that post expresses exactly how I feel? The point of the post is that there is no framework in particular to recommend. I use my own packages for my needs. They suit me well. It does not mean they will suit everybody. The PHPClasses site content is made of packages contributed by developers that wrote their own packages. Those other packages often serve the same purposes as some of my packages. I am pro-choice. That is the spirit of the PHPClasses site. Everybody can publish their packages. Let the users be the judges of which are the best for whatever purposes. That is pure fair play. Is that a bad thing? I don't think so. I also would like to emphasize what I said above regarding the total lack of organization and cooperation of the PHP community. If there were standard specifications for packages and frameworks like there is in the Java world, maybe you would not have this discussion. There could be a consense to use the same standard API with eventual multiple implementations from different developers or vendors. Imagine if there would be only one PDBC (JDBC for PHP). Instead of that we have a never ending choice of PHP database abstraction layers that does not help newcoming developers that are lost and don't know what to use. This is admitidly a criticism to the lack of organization of the whole PHP community including myself. We are all guilty for this mess and I am afraid there is not much hope to fix it. -- Regards, Manuel Lemos Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator http://www.metastorage.net/ PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP http://www.phpclasses.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 01:47 -0300, Manuel Lemos wrote: Hello, on 08/03/2006 01:24 AM Robert Cummings said the following: What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for application development? There seems to be a number of them out there, but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed, secure, etc etc. Thoughts? There is no common consense. PHP development is not very well organized, like for instance in the Java world where several vendors can provide their own implementations of the same specification. This makes possible to use the same framework API from whatever vendor you prefer. In the PHP world all frameworks are incompatible, even when they attempt to implement similar feature sets. Anyway, you may want to read this more in depth reflection of the state of the PHP framework world and recommendations on how to pick what suits best for you: http://www.phpclasses.org/blog/post/52-Recommended-PHP-frameworks.html I've read it before... it was crud. You provide no recommendation for any framework but instead try to pimp phpclasses. From what I gathered you haven't even actually tried anywhere in the vicinity of 10% of the frameworks in existence and yet you feel obliged to write a commenatary called Recommended PHP Frameworks in which you don't even recommend a framework. Additionally somehow while pimping phpclasses you also feel it necessary to indicate how you don't use any code other than what you write yourself. Egads, if you won't use the code on your site why the hell should anyone else? The answer to that question is in the post. I only use my own (PHP) packages because I can. Not everybody can afford writing package for their own needs from scratch. Why would I lie when that post expresses exactly how I feel? The point of the post is that there is no framework in particular to recommend. I use my own packages for my needs. They suit me well. It does not mean they will suit everybody. How would you know that there is no framework to recommend if you neve ruse anyone's code but your own. How could you have possibly given any framework sufficient attention to have any idea of its pros and cons? The PHPClasses site content is made of packages contributed by developers that wrote their own packages. Those other packages often serve the same purposes as some of my packages. I am pro-choice. That is the spirit of the PHPClasses site. Everybody can publish their packages. Let the users be the judges of which are the best for whatever purposes. That is pure fair play. Is that a bad thing? I don't think so. I also would like to emphasize what I said above regarding the total lack of organization and cooperation of the PHP community. You can't have your cake and eat it too. You're either pro-choice with a myriad of choices to choose from, or you're anti-choice and want only one framework style. Get of the fence! If there were standard specifications for packages and frameworks like there is in the Java world, maybe you would not have this discussion. There could be a consense to use the same standard API with eventual multiple implementations from different developers or vendors. Imagine if there would be only one PDBC (JDBC for PHP). Instead of that we have a never ending choice of PHP database abstraction layers that does not help newcoming developers that are lost and don't know what to use. You presume that any chosen standard methodology or whatever you want to call it would be correct. Because if it wasn't correct, no matter how organized you think a community might be, something different WILL emerge. Right now there may be 100 frameworks, probably still growing, but not all will be accepted into mainstream use, and that ultimately will determine which one's have staying power or at the very least -- which ones have reach. The fact that there are so many is a testament to how easy it is to manipulate the power placed in the hands of the PHP developer. It is not indicative of disorganization within the community. This is admitidly a criticism to the lack of organization of the whole PHP community including myself. We are all guilty for this mess and I am afraid there is not much hope to fix it. You mean we should all be happy that so much choice is available! Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP
RE: [PHP] SQL injection
Thank you all for your replies; it has been interesting to read. I am just waiting for the webmaster to reply to me with his thoughts. My intentions for this were to help, not to break, so I do indeed hope that they will not take legal action for it. A friend of mine hoped that they would use the law against me, it would just increase the publicity for me, and that might increase the value of my services. And he was also sure that they would never win the case. I was for a while thinking about using my private yahoo email to not disclose my name, however, that felt like hiding for something you did not do. One at the forum sent me an message off the list and said: You got bigger balls than me. :-), what did he mean with that? I did not know that the php list also shows the web cam at the same time. I better watch out... Best regards, Peter Lauri -Original Message- From: Peter Lauri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:17 PM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP] SQL injection Hi all, I saw some strange error messages from a site when I was surfing it, and it was in form of SQL. I did some testing of the security of the SQL injection protection of that site, and it showed it was not that protected against SQL injections. To show this to them, I deleted my own record in their database after finding out the table name of the entity in the database. I also found out a lot of other that I think is important table names. What I did to them was to report this to them, and inform them about the damage I created, and what could have been done. (I did DELETE FROM tablename WHERE id=1234, what if I did DELETE FROM tablename, destruction if no backup). This is a large athletic site in Sweden, with more then 100,000 daily visitors. What I am a little bit worried about is the legal part of this; can I be accused of breaking some laws? I was just doing it to check if they were protected, and I informed them about my process etc. I only deleted my record, no one else's. In Sweden it might have been called computer break-in, but I am not sure. Anyone with experience of a similar thing? Best regards, Peter Lauri -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion
You mean we should all be happy that so much choice is available! I agree with Rob! I am a botanist. I have never been trained in Computer Science, as far as industry is concerned, I am not qualified to turn on a PC. Fortunately for me, I am also a geek. My PHP experiences started when running experiments in my wet labs, monitoring seaweed growth. If PHP did not allow me to get away with writing newbie (read bad) code, I would have given up and just done it the old way that botanists have been doing it for centuries. PHP gave me that freedom to start, and as a result, I now am a reasonably decent PHP developer, and run a collaborative network in 16 (and growing) African countries working on a PHP framework that I designed and wrote. Go figure. Choice is that important. If I had started with JDBC or a Java based way of doing things, this stuff would have never happened. Frameworks are not only pieces of software, but create communities of like minded people. They also build skills (and business opportunities) as ours does. If there were no choice, we would all be VB style drones with no creativity and no forward movement. Please direct flames to file 13. --Paul All Email originating from UWC is covered by disclaimer http://www.uwc.ac.za/portal/uwc2006/content/mail_disclaimer/index.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
