RE: [PHP] Development tools[Scanned]

2003-01-07 Thread Michael Egan
Didier, I'm afraid you really are asking for some harsh responses. Your last comment in particular invites some rather obvious, albeit rude, acronyms. I just started on both of them and wanting to learn how to use them, but I know the tools could speed up the process, especially I am a learn

RE: [PHP] Development tools[Scanned]

2003-01-07 Thread Michael Egan
Didier, I meant to say Java and C++ IDEs. Regards, Michael Egan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

RE: [PHP] Development tools[Scanned]

2003-01-07 Thread Didier McGillis
recieve. But I do know that if I can't contribute, I'm not going to answer anything. ... btw thanks for the answer in the other email .. I'll check those out. From: Michael Egan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Didier McGillis [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Development tools

RE: [PHP] Development tools[Scanned]

2003-01-07 Thread Michael Egan
Didier, It's not that people object to stupid questions being posed - or, indeed poor use of English. Some of the best responses to queries I've seen are from people for whom English is not their first language. What people do object to is questions being posed to the incorrect lists - I'm

RE: [PHP] Development Tools

2002-07-11 Thread Martin Clifford
I usually always have my content dynamically generated by functions, or displayed in include files. I'm not a fan of cluttering up my apps with content. Martin Clifford http://www.completesource.net (Now Open!) Lazor, Ed [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/10/02 05:38PM I am too. I've developed an

Re: [PHP] Development Tools

2002-07-11 Thread Alberto Serra
ðÒÉ×ÅÔ! Martin Clifford wrote: I usually always have my content dynamically generated by functions, or displayed in include files. I'm not a fan of cluttering up my apps with content. me neither. You can mix up code and content only as long as you work alone. But in most project (even

Re: [PHP] Development Tools

2002-07-10 Thread B i g D o g
PHPED is really good if you have the money to spend... B i g D o g - Original Message - From: Mark McCulligh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 9:42 AM Subject: [PHP] Development Tools I am looking for a good Development tool to write my PHP in

Re: [PHP] Development Tools

2002-07-10 Thread Martin Clifford
I use the almighty Notepad for my coding. When I'm at home, however, I typically use Macromedia Homesite 5 (simply because it has PHP syntax highlighting). I tried using PHPEdit, but I thought it was horrible. It was buggy, and annoying. PHP Master Editor is VERY good, and you can probably

RE: [PHP] Development Tools

2002-07-10 Thread Dan Vande More
Mark, I have been developing with PHP for 1 year now, and about 1 month ago got DMX, I have to say that I spend much much less time on building forms and little repetitive work, and more on building applications. I would have to say that DMX increased my productivity by at least 5 times.(I

Re: [PHP] Development Tools

2002-07-10 Thread Neil Freeman
Maguma Studio Light is pretty good - www.maguma.com Mark McCulligh wrote: ** This Message Was Virus Checked With : SAVI 3.59 May 2002 Last Updated 8th July 2002

Re: [PHP] Development Tools

2002-07-10 Thread Bret L Conard
PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [PHP] Development Tools I use the almighty Notepad for my coding. When I'm at home, however, I typically use Macromedia Homesite 5 (simply because it has PHP syntax highlighting). I tried using PHPEdit, but I

Re: [PHP] Development Tools

2002-07-10 Thread Mark McCulligh
- From: Dan Vande More [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mark McCulligh [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 11:56 AM Subject: RE: [PHP] Development Tools Mark, I have been developing with PHP for 1 year now, and about 1 month ago got DMX, I have to say that I spend much

Re: [PHP] Development Tools

2002-07-10 Thread Uwe Birkenhain
I think that - on windows - nothing is better than textpad (www.textpad.com). Simply the best editor the world has seen so far! What makes development tools better than a good editor? (serious question) Uwe -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit:

RE: [PHP] Development Tools

2002-07-10 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] What makes development tools better than a good editor? (serious question) [/snip] Over the course of time (I have been writing code for 25 years, many languages, some compiled, some not) I have found that the most useful tool in the arsenal is a good editor with no more features than

Re: [PHP] Development Tools

2002-07-10 Thread Zac Hillier
- Original Message - From: Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Uwe Birkenhain' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 5:21 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] Development Tools [snip] What makes development tools better than a good editor? (serious question) [/snip] Over

Re: [PHP] Development Tools

2002-07-10 Thread Alberto Serra
ðÒÉ×ÅÔ! gEdit rulez! :) well, I seldom make files any bigger than a couple of scrolls, so... much depends on your programming style. And habits. But I am with Uwe. Nothing like a plain text editor. Maybe I am just too old to understand novelty LOL ÐÏËÁ áÌØÂÅÒÔÏ ëÉÅ×

Re: [PHP] Development Tools

2002-07-10 Thread Bret L Conard
- Original Message - From: Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Uwe Birkenhain' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 12:21 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] Development Tools [snip] What makes development tools better than a good editor? (serious question) [/snip] Over

Re: [PHP] Development Tools

2002-07-10 Thread Todd Cary
I agree completely. Here is an editor I like because it can be customized. http://www.gwdsoft.com/ Todd -- Todd Cary Ariste Software 2200 D Street Extension Petaluma, CA 94952 707-773-4523 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit:

RE: [PHP] Development Tools

2002-07-10 Thread Brian McGarvie
HTML-Kit does it for me... great customisability... -Original Message- From: Bret L Conard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 10 July 2002 5:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Development Tools snip/ but often find myself using an editor on the code created

Re: [PHP] Development Tools

2002-07-10 Thread John S. Huggins
Dreamweaver has come along nicely. I have only dabbled at the MX version. Ultraedit, http://www.ultraedit.com/, has proven to be very nice at handling editing tasks of PHP, HTML, SQL, and hundreds of other languages. It can edit files via FTP which was useful to me years ago and continues to

Re: [PHP] Development Tools

2002-07-10 Thread Martin Clifford
: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 12:21 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] Development Tools [snip] What makes development tools better than a good editor? (serious question) [/snip] Over the course of time (I have been writing code for 25 years, many languages, some compiled, some not) I have found

Re: [PHP] Development Tools

2002-07-10 Thread Mark McCulligh
ROTECTED] To: 'Uwe Birkenhain' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 12:21 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] Development Tools [snip] What makes development tools better than a good editor? (serious question) [/snip] Over the course of time (I have been writing code for

RE: [PHP] Development Tools

2002-07-10 Thread Lazor, Ed
I like WYSIWYG integration. It allows me to code the page and then focus separately on web page content. That debugger in PHPEd looks pretty cool... too bad they don't have WYSIWYG. -Original Message- I agree about WYSIWYG. I use UltraDev a lot, but don't use the WYSIWYG very much

Re: [PHP] Development Tools

2002-07-10 Thread Nick Oostveen
A good, well designed, development tool can provide a huge productivity boost over an editor if it's used properly. And I don't mean auto-generated code by this either. Right off the bat, any good development tool will have code completion abilities, which are basically the programmers

Re: [PHP] Development Tools

2002-07-10 Thread Peter J. Schoenster
On 10 Jul 2002 at 18:07, Uwe Birkenhain wrote: I think that - on windows - nothing is better than textpad (www.textpad.com). Simply the best editor the world has seen so far! What makes development tools better than a good editor? (serious question) Well let me get my 2 cents in. It's a

Re: [PHP] Development Tools

2002-07-10 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
Right off the bat, any good development tool will have code completion abilities, which are basically the programmers version of nix consoles tab completion. This little feature alone helps save time by reducing the amount of typing required, not to mention can virtually eliminate type-o's

RE: [PHP] Development Tools

2002-07-10 Thread Lazor, Ed
I am too. I've developed an approach to coding with Dreamweaver that allows me to take advantage of WYSIWYG and my own style of coding at the same time. The MX version of Dreamweaver is supposed to add support for code snipets, and a few other things. I'm looking forward to checking them out.

RE: [PHP] Development Tools

2002-07-10 Thread Lazor, Ed
I'm definitely curious and want to check out the debugging tools, performance analyzer, and database connectivity tools provided by PHPEd. I get the impression most developers do not integrate coding and content. Is this correct? -Ed -Original Message- These first two things are

RE: [PHP] Development Tools

2002-07-10 Thread Chris Kay
Message- From: Peter J. Schoenster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 11 July 2002 5:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Development Tools On 10 Jul 2002 at 18:07, Uwe Birkenhain wrote: I think that - on windows - nothing is better than textpad (www.textpad.com

RE: [PHP] Development Tools

2002-07-10 Thread Nick Oostveen
While I can't speak for others, in our office we use template files which contain all HTML and then parse content generated from php scripts into them about 90% of the time. Not only does separating your code from your HTML make it easier to change the look of a site, but it also makes the

Re: [PHP] Development Tools

2002-07-10 Thread Chris Earle
I too am using a plain old text editor for PHP (Notepad), but I did enjoy the environment of Interdev for ASP... I think by far the best feature most development tools have to offer is the syntax highlighting, I like seeing comments in green/grey, with the plain text and vars in black, and a lot