Re: [PHP] sms class

2012-04-19 Thread Matijn Woudt
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:31 PM, Matijn Woudt tijn...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
 Matijn Woudt wrote:

 It should be possible to hack up an android phone and write some
 software that sends messages from there, though using one of the
 provided services is much simpler.


 I have the phone already configured, but it requires a SIM card that ALLOWS
 sending messages via the data port. All UK SIM's are locked to only work
 from the phone itself :( This service IS available in other countries which
 is where the data came from ...



 That's why I said, hack an android phone. You can simulate it is send
 by the phone itself with enough programming skills.

 Matijn

Thinking again about this, Android does already support it out of the
box. (See [1]).

You could also try one of these:
DesktopSMS, EasySMS, RemoteSMS, Droid Messenger, MightyText, BrowserTexting


- Matijn

[1] 
http://developer.android.com/reference/android/telephony/SmsManager.html#sendTextMessage(java.lang.String,
java.lang.String, java.lang.String, android.app.PendingIntent,
android.app.PendingIntent)

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Re: [PHP] sms class

2012-04-19 Thread Lester Caine

Matijn Woudt wrote:

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:31 PM, Matijn Woudttijn...@gmail.com  wrote:

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Lester Caineles...@lsces.co.uk  wrote:

Matijn Woudt wrote:


It should be possible to hack up an android phone and write some
software that sends messages from there, though using one of the
provided services is much simpler.



I have the phone already configured, but it requires a SIM card that ALLOWS
sending messages via the data port. All UK SIM's are locked to only work
from the phone itself :( This service IS available in other countries which
is where the data came from ...




That's why I said, hack an android phone. You can simulate it is send
by the phone itself with enough programming skills.

Matijn


Thinking again about this, Android does already support it out of the
box. (See [1]).

You could also try one of these:
DesktopSMS, EasySMS, RemoteSMS, Droid Messenger, MightyText, BrowserTexting


- Matijn

[1] 
http://developer.android.com/reference/android/telephony/SmsManager.html#sendTextMessage(java.lang.String,
java.lang.String, java.lang.String, android.app.PendingIntent,
android.app.PendingIntent)


THAT is more or less what I currently have. The SIM security basically prevents 
it from working simply because you are bypassing the authentication process. 
I've wasted a lot of time on this to date. I can quite happily push messages 
into the phone, but it refuses to forward them on. Ideally I want to use the 
mobile phone approach since SMS messages CAN get through where we can't get web 
access, so the mobile patrols can report position back to the main web service, 
but at the moment we have to have a body on the other end of a phone to manually 
complete the loop - so over night it does not happen :( All the talk about about 
'faster mobile internet access' is just a pipe dream around here. You may need 
to stand on the roof of the car to even get the phone to work ;) We've had to 
install private wireless links in places and adding data to THAT is another 
complete rip-off!


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Re: [PHP] sms class

2012-04-18 Thread Matijn Woudt
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 9:50 PM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
 DZvonko Nikolov wrote:

 I need a class that sends sms messages to list of numbers.
 I'm quite new to that issue, so I need to know what I need
 more. Thanks in advance.


 Ignoring the wallies 

 Simply sending an SMS message is something rather more difficult that just
 needing a class to do it.
 Google will give you a hell of a lot of crap and no real answers - I know -
 I've been through a lot of it!

 The bottom line is that we need to be able to send the message TO the mobile
 phone network, and while in theory it should be simple to do that by
 accessing your own mobile phone, the providers tend to block such activity.
 I'm STILL trying to get a SIM card I can use to send my own messages via the
 mobile modem that I HAVE got full access to, but none of the UK providers
 will oblige with one that has this function enabled. Even though I will be
 paying for the 'airtime' ...

 The only way currently to do this is to sign up to a service that you pay to
 send each messages. So what you need to look for is a suitable text sending
 service in your area. Some have free setup and provide a few free messages,
 then charge based on your volume of messages. Many of these provide a web
 based service to which you can submit your traffic, but that area is another
 variable. I'm using http://www.textlocal.com/ at the moment just to get
 things running.

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It should be possible to hack up an android phone and write some
software that sends messages from there, though using one of the
provided services is much simpler.

- Matijn

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Re: [PHP] sms class

2012-04-18 Thread Lester Caine

Matijn Woudt wrote:

It should be possible to hack up an android phone and write some
software that sends messages from there, though using one of the
provided services is much simpler.


I have the phone already configured, but it requires a SIM card that ALLOWS 
sending messages via the data port. All UK SIM's are locked to only work from 
the phone itself :( This service IS available in other countries which is where 
the data came from ...


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Re: [PHP] sms class

2012-04-18 Thread Matijn Woudt
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
 Matijn Woudt wrote:

 It should be possible to hack up an android phone and write some
 software that sends messages from there, though using one of the
 provided services is much simpler.


 I have the phone already configured, but it requires a SIM card that ALLOWS
 sending messages via the data port. All UK SIM's are locked to only work
 from the phone itself :( This service IS available in other countries which
 is where the data came from ...



That's why I said, hack an android phone. You can simulate it is send
by the phone itself with enough programming skills.

Matijn

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Re: [PHP] sms class

2012-04-18 Thread tamouse mailing lists
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 2:08 PM, DZvonko Nikolov dzvo...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I need a class that sends sms messages to list of numbers.
 I'm quite new to that issue, so I need to know what I need
 more. Thanks in advance.

If this is very low volume, would using email-sms work?

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Re: [PHP] sms class

2012-04-17 Thread Marc Guay
Woah.  Is that good luck or bad luck?

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Re: [PHP] sms class

2012-04-17 Thread Stuart Dallas
On 17 Apr 2012, at 20:17, Marc Guay wrote:

 Woah.  Is that good luck or bad luck?

Inherently? Neither. To you? Whatever.

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Re: [PHP] sms class

2012-04-17 Thread Marc Guay
Suspicion is my religion.  Let no thread end without a war.

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Re: [PHP] sms class

2012-04-17 Thread Lester Caine

DZvonko Nikolov wrote:

I need a class that sends sms messages to list of numbers.
I'm quite new to that issue, so I need to know what I need
more. Thanks in advance.


Ignoring the wallies 

Simply sending an SMS message is something rather more difficult that just 
needing a class to do it.
Google will give you a hell of a lot of crap and no real answers - I know - I've 
been through a lot of it!


The bottom line is that we need to be able to send the message TO the mobile 
phone network, and while in theory it should be simple to do that by accessing 
your own mobile phone, the providers tend to block such activity. I'm STILL 
trying to get a SIM card I can use to send my own messages via the mobile modem 
that I HAVE got full access to, but none of the UK providers will oblige with 
one that has this function enabled. Even though I will be paying for the 
'airtime' ...


The only way currently to do this is to sign up to a service that you pay to 
send each messages. So what you need to look for is a suitable text sending 
service in your area. Some have free setup and provide a few free messages, then 
charge based on your volume of messages. Many of these provide a web based 
service to which you can submit your traffic, but that area is another variable. 
I'm using http://www.textlocal.com/ at the moment just to get things running.


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Re: [PHP] sms class

2012-04-17 Thread Mike Mackintosh
In reality, a SMS messages are transported the SS7 network, or voice network. 
To make the digital transition, carriers use a box called an SMPP gateway. To 
get access to this box, is by contract and terms of he carrier, and most 
commonly forbidden. As a result, the best bet is to use a SMS Aggregator. Once 
you subscribe to their service, they usually offer an API. 

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On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 at 15:50, Lester Caine wrote:

 DZvonko Nikolov wrote:
  I need a class that sends sms messages to list of numbers.
  I'm quite new to that issue, so I need to know what I need
  more. Thanks in advance.
  
 
 
 Ignoring the wallies 
 
 Simply sending an SMS message is something rather more difficult that just 
 needing a class to do it.
 Google will give you a hell of a lot of crap and no real answers - I know - 
 I've 
 been through a lot of it!
 
 The bottom line is that we need to be able to send the message TO the mobile 
 phone network, and while in theory it should be simple to do that by 
 accessing 
 your own mobile phone, the providers tend to block such activity. I'm STILL 
 trying to get a SIM card I can use to send my own messages via the mobile 
 modem 
 that I HAVE got full access to, but none of the UK providers will oblige with 
 one that has this function enabled. Even though I will be paying for the 
 'airtime' ...
 
 The only way currently to do this is to sign up to a service that you pay to 
 send each messages. So what you need to look for is a suitable text sending 
 service in your area. Some have free setup and provide a few free messages, 
 then 
 charge based on your volume of messages. Many of these provide a web based 
 service to which you can submit your traffic, but that area is another 
 variable. 
 I'm using http://www.textlocal.com/ at the moment just to get things running.
 
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Re: [PHP] sms class

2012-04-17 Thread Floyd Resler

On Apr 17, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Mike Mackintosh wrote:

 In reality, a SMS messages are transported the SS7 network, or voice network. 
 To make the digital transition, carriers use a box called an SMPP gateway. To 
 get access to this box, is by contract and terms of he carrier, and most 
 commonly forbidden. As a result, the best bet is to use a SMS Aggregator. 
 Once you subscribe to their service, they usually offer an API. 
 
 -- 
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 www.HighOnPHP.com
 
 
 On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 at 15:50, Lester Caine wrote:
 
 DZvonko Nikolov wrote:
 I need a class that sends sms messages to list of numbers.
 I'm quite new to that issue, so I need to know what I need
 more. Thanks in advance.
 
 
 
 Ignoring the wallies 
 
 Simply sending an SMS message is something rather more difficult that just 
 needing a class to do it.
 Google will give you a hell of a lot of crap and no real answers - I know - 
 I've 
 been through a lot of it!
 
 The bottom line is that we need to be able to send the message TO the mobile 
 phone network, and while in theory it should be simple to do that by 
 accessing 
 your own mobile phone, the providers tend to block such activity. I'm STILL 
 trying to get a SIM card I can use to send my own messages via the mobile 
 modem 
 that I HAVE got full access to, but none of the UK providers will oblige 
 with 
 one that has this function enabled. Even though I will be paying for the 
 'airtime' ...
 
 The only way currently to do this is to sign up to a service that you pay to 
 send each messages. So what you need to look for is a suitable text sending 
 service in your area. Some have free setup and provide a few free messages, 
 then 
 charge based on your volume of messages. Many of these provide a web based 
 service to which you can submit your traffic, but that area is another 
 variable. 
 I'm using http://www.textlocal.com/ at the moment just to get things running.
 
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I use Tropo (tropo.com) myself.  It is easy to use and the support is great!

Take care,
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Re: [PHP] sms class

2012-04-17 Thread Stuart Dallas
On 17 Apr 2012, at 20:50, Lester Caine wrote:

 Ignoring the wallies 

I'd rather be a wally surrounded by fishmongers than a fishmonger surrounded by 
wallies.

-Stuart

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Re: [PHP] SMS gateway

2009-05-13 Thread Daniel Brown
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:00, Manoj Singh manojsingh2...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 I need to create the SMS functionality in PHP.

 Do you have any idea of Open Source SMS gateway which i can use?

http://google.com/search?q=open+source+sms+gateway

If you have any idea of how SMS works, you'll know it's not
possible.  SMS is a protocol built upon a network for which you'll be
required to license (and pay for) access and usage.  It's not a script
you could install.

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Re: [PHP] SMS gateway

2009-05-13 Thread Pavan Keshavamurthy
As Daniel already mentioned, SMS gateways are normally charged on the basis of 
usage. And there are several service providers as far as that goes, who 
provide APIs for integration with your own application.

Just FYI
www.clickatell.com is one. Somebody has even written a wrapper class around 
this service, that could make life a lot easier 
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/sms-api/)

Best
Pavan Keshavamurthy

On Wednesday 13 May 2009 19:30:30 Manoj Singh wrote:
 Hi All,

 I need to create the SMS functionality in PHP.

 Do you have any idea of Open Source SMS gateway which i can use?

 Thanks,
 Manoj

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Re: [PHP] SMS gateway

2009-05-13 Thread Nathan Rixham

Daniel Brown wrote:

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:00, Manoj Singh manojsingh2...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi All,

I need to create the SMS functionality in PHP.

Do you have any idea of Open Source SMS gateway which i can use?


http://google.com/search?q=open+source+sms+gateway

If you have any idea of how SMS works, you'll know it's not
possible.  SMS is a protocol built upon a network for which you'll be
required to license (and pay for) access and usage.  It's not a script
you could install.



indeed been down this avenue myself - best free way I could find of 
doing it for free(?) is to find the email address format for the major 
carriers (there is a list on wikipedia) then send an email to 
241412341...@carrier.smstoemailgateway.domain where the numbers are the 
phone number.



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Re: [PHP] SMS gateway

2009-05-13 Thread Per Jessen
Daniel Brown wrote:

 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:00, Manoj Singh manojsingh2...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Hi All,

 I need to create the SMS functionality in PHP.

 Do you have any idea of Open Source SMS gateway which i can use?
 
 http://google.com/search?q=open+source+sms+gateway
 
 If you have any idea of how SMS works, you'll know it's not
 possible.  SMS is a protocol built upon a network for which you'll be
 required to license (and pay for) access and usage.  It's not a script
 you could install.

Well, in a way you could - I've been using sms_client for 3-4 years,
paying a fixed fee of 30Rappen per SMS via my phonebill.  It works very
well.  I trigger the SMS by email, but it could just as easily be done
from some PHP code.

sms_client is open source, btw.


/Per

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Re: [PHP] sms interfaces?

2008-10-09 Thread clive

Rene Veerman wrote:

hi, i'd like my app to send sms warnings of some events.

if you know of a free / cheap sms service that can be called from php, 
please let me/us know.


u earn extra points if it can send to dutch phones / any phone in the 
world ;)


I have used these guys successfully before, bulksms.com and I know they 
have good coverage of the globe.


Some mobile operators allow you to send a text to their users as an 
email for free ,ie [EMAIL PROTECTED],


Clive


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Re: [PHP] sms interfaces?

2008-10-09 Thread Richard Heyes
 hi, i'd like my app to send sms warnings of some events.

 if you know of a free / cheap sms service that can be called from php,
 please let me/us know.

I looked into TXTLocal once. I actually didn't end up using them, but
it might be worth a gleg.

http://www.txtlocal.co.uk/

 u earn extra points if it can send to dutch phones / any phone in the world
 ;)

Ooh, goodie.

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Re: [PHP] sms interfaces?

2008-10-09 Thread Per Jessen
Rene Veerman wrote:

 hi, i'd like my app to send sms warnings of some events.
 
 if you know of a free / cheap sms service that can be called from php,
 please let me/us know.

Swisscom can be called using sms_client.  We've been using for 3, maybe
4 years.


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Re: [PHP] sms interfaces?

2008-10-09 Thread Tom Chubb
2008/10/8 Stut [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On 8 Oct 2008, at 20:33, Rene Veerman wrote:

 hi, i'd like my app to send sms warnings of some events.

 if you know of a free / cheap sms service that can be called from php,
 please let me/us know.

 u earn extra points if it can send to dutch phones / any phone in the
 world ;)

 Best I've found is Clickatell (www.clickatell.com) but I've not really
 looked too hard.

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I agree with -Stut,
I didn't like their documentation though but managed to find a class
for it on phpclasses I think. Let me know if you want me to dig out
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Re: [PHP] sms interfaces?

2008-10-08 Thread Stut

On 8 Oct 2008, at 20:33, Rene Veerman wrote:

hi, i'd like my app to send sms warnings of some events.

if you know of a free / cheap sms service that can be called from  
php, please let me/us know.


u earn extra points if it can send to dutch phones / any phone in  
the world ;)


Best I've found is Clickatell (www.clickatell.com) but I've not really  
looked too hard.


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Re: [PHP] sms interfaces?

2008-10-08 Thread Rene Veerman

thanks!

Stut wrote:

On 8 Oct 2008, at 20:33, Rene Veerman wrote:

hi, i'd like my app to send sms warnings of some events.

if you know of a free / cheap sms service that can be called from 
php, please let me/us know.


u earn extra points if it can send to dutch phones / any phone in the 
world ;)


Best I've found is Clickatell (www.clickatell.com) but I've not really 
looked too hard.


-Stut




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RE: [PHP] sms interfaces?

2008-10-08 Thread Boyd, Todd M.
 -Original Message-
 From: Rene Veerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 2:33 PM
 To: php-general@lists.php.net
 Subject: [PHP] sms interfaces?
 
 hi, i'd like my app to send sms warnings of some events.
 
 if you know of a free / cheap sms service that can be called from php,
 please let me/us know.
 
 u earn extra points if it can send to dutch phones / any phone in the
 world ;)

AIM accounts can be used to send messages to SMS by using the full phone
number (i.e., +15735551212) as the contact destination. There's probably
APIs for the service already, be it WSDL or PHP, etc.


Todd Boyd
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Re: [PHP] sms interfaces?

2008-10-08 Thread Jignesh Thummar
www.frengo.com provides SMS alert service.

- Jignesh

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:25 AM, Boyd, Todd M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  -Original Message-
  From: Rene Veerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 2:33 PM
  To: php-general@lists.php.net
  Subject: [PHP] sms interfaces?
 
  hi, i'd like my app to send sms warnings of some events.
 
  if you know of a free / cheap sms service that can be called from php,
  please let me/us know.
 
  u earn extra points if it can send to dutch phones / any phone in the
  world ;)

 AIM accounts can be used to send messages to SMS by using the full phone
 number (i.e., +15735551212) as the contact destination. There's probably
 APIs for the service already, be it WSDL or PHP, etc.


 Todd Boyd
 Web Programmer

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Re: [PHP] SMS Cellular Text Messaging

2008-05-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-04-28 15:24:53, schrieb Richard Lynch:
 If you want any kind of volume, you pay a gateway.
 
 Or you could invest a few billion and build your own. :-)

I am using a bunch of GSM/GPRS/EDGE modems which have  cost  me  arround
105 Euro/Modem and bought some SIMs from O2,  Vodaphone,  D2,  T-Mobile,
Bougues Telecom Orange and SFR to setup my own  Gateway  between  France
and Germany...

In Morocco, Turkey and Iran  I  have  simpel  P1/200MHz  Computers  with
appropriated Modem and SIM connected and it goes over ADSL...

So currently I am connection 5 countries...

I  do  not  need  Billion  only  a  One-Time-Investment  of  arround
4.000 Euro and then per day 800 Euro SMS invoices...

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
24V Electronic Engineer
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Re: [PHP] SMS Cellular Text Messaging

2008-04-29 Thread Per Jessen
paragasu wrote:

 i guess, even we have our own gateway. we have to make deal with local
 ISP anyway and it cost money. if anyone out there know how. i am
 really interested to know... 

Forget your own gateway, it's way overkill unless you plan to be
sendings thousands of SMS'es.  Just use smsclient.


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Re: [PHP] SMS Cellular Text Messaging

2008-04-29 Thread paragasu
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 paragasu wrote:

  i guess, even we have our own gateway. we have to make deal with local
  ISP anyway and it cost money. if anyone out there know how. i am
  really interested to know...

 Forget your own gateway, it's way overkill unless you plan to be
 sendings thousands of SMS'es.  Just use smsclient.


 /Per Jessen, Zürich


i agree with you. it take huge amount of money to build and maintain this
type of
business.


RE: [PHP] SMS Cellular Text Messaging

2008-04-28 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip]
Anyone enlighten me about sending SMS text messages via sendmail or or
just php mail()?

I've been Googling, etc. and everything I've found so far, comes up with
for-fee services.
[/snip]

SMS messaging requires a gateway, hence the for-fee services.

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Re: [PHP] SMS Cellular Text Messaging

2008-04-28 Thread Al
I didn't word my question well. I know about the following, etc. And, I know they charge their 
customers.



Cingular: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sprint: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Verizon: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nextel: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I want to send a pure SMS via these gateways without the regular email headers, 
etc.


Jay Blanchard wrote:

[snip]
Anyone enlighten me about sending SMS text messages via sendmail or or
just php mail()?

I've been Googling, etc. and everything I've found so far, comes up with
for-fee services.
[/snip]

SMS messaging requires a gateway, hence the for-fee services.


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Re: [PHP] SMS Cellular Text Messaging

2008-04-28 Thread Per Jessen
Al wrote:

 Anyone enlighten me about sending SMS text messages via sendmail or or
 just php mail()?
 
 I've been Googling, etc. and everything I've found so far, comes up
 with for-fee services.

See smsclient.  We've been using that for three or four years.


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RE: [PHP] SMS Cellular Text Messaging

2008-04-28 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip]
I didn't word my question well. I know about the following, etc. And, I
know they charge their 
customers.

 Cingular: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sprint: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Verizon: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Nextel: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I want to send a pure SMS via these gateways without the regular email
headers, etc.
[/snip]

It is the same answer, you have to use an SMS gateway. Using the above
is an additional layer or two. 

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RE: [PHP] SMS Cellular Text Messaging

2008-04-28 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip]
Do these gateways get paid?  I can send a text message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
using sendmail. So it appears Verizon is just charging my phone's account.  

Is that the case with the 3d party gateways?
[/snip]

As is the case with everything telecom someone is going to make money off of 
it. The subscriber pays for sending and receiving texts with all carriers, if 
not explicitly as part of their monthly plan. Gateways are but one hop in the 
message chain. 

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RE: [PHP] SMS Cellular Text Messaging

2008-04-28 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip]
 Do you have any experience with any of 3d party gateways?
[/snip]

No, we own our own gateway 

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Re: [PHP] SMS Cellular Text Messaging

2008-04-28 Thread Richard Lynch
On Mon, April 28, 2008 2:39 pm, Al wrote:
 I didn't word my question well. I know about the following, etc. And,
 I know they charge their
 customers.

 Cingular: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sprint: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Verizon: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Nextel: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If you send more than a few through any of those, you'll start having
your messages not get through.

 I want to send a pure SMS via these gateways without the regular email
 headers, etc.

Those are just there for the convenience of normal users who send a
text or two without having an SMS phone.

If you want any kind of volume, you pay a gateway.

Or you could invest a few billion and build your own. :-)

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Re: [PHP] SMS Cellular Text Messaging

2008-04-28 Thread paragasu
i use our local email-to-sms service. it is not reliable. more often than
not,
it is not delivered to user. I did found kannel project (www.kannel.org),
opensource
gateway. but still not sure how it going to work or how to roll my own
gateway.

i guess, even we have our own gateway. we have to make deal with local ISP
anyway and
it cost money. if anyone out there know how. i am really interested to
know...


Re: [PHP] SMS questions

2007-07-16 Thread Crayon Shin Chan
On Friday 13 July 2007 22:38, Robert Cummings wrote:

  in which the sender is responsible for storing the mail until the
  intended recipient retrieves it seems like a good start.

 Bleh, that's so easily solvable for spammers. Create one real message,
 then softllink it for every actual email they send out. Millions of
 links are cheap.

There's not going to be any single measure that will solve the spam 
problem - short of executing all perpetrators of spam and all owners 
whose machines are involved in the propagation of spam - but rather a 
whole raft of measures of which the above is just one.

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Re: [PHP] SMS questions

2007-07-16 Thread Robert Cummings
On Mon, 2007-07-16 at 23:04 +0800, Crayon Shin Chan wrote:
 On Friday 13 July 2007 22:38, Robert Cummings wrote:
 
   in which the sender is responsible for storing the mail until the
   intended recipient retrieves it seems like a good start.
 
  Bleh, that's so easily solvable for spammers. Create one real message,
  then softllink it for every actual email they send out. Millions of
  links are cheap.
 
 There's not going to be any single measure that will solve the spam 
 problem - short of executing all perpetrators of spam and all owners 
 whose machines are involved in the propagation of spam - but rather a 
 whole raft of measures of which the above is just one.

Where's the signup list for the spammer lynching mob? :)

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RE: [PHP] SMS questions

2007-07-15 Thread Steve Perkins

Sorry, www.textit.biz

Cheers


-Original Message-
From: Dan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 July 2007 17:52
To: php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] SMS questions

Might want to retry that link, it's broken.

- Dan

Steve Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Richard makes some good points.

 Further to the original posting though, I have a friend who works with 
 this SMS stuff, and out of interest asked him about it. Here is his 
 (slightly
 scary) response, might be of some use ...

 His website is www.textit,biz



 -Original Message-
 From: Shaun M. Nixon
 Sent: 13 July 2007 09:17
 To: Steve Perkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: FW: [PHP] SMS questions

 Hi Steve

 Hope you're doing fine.

 It is possible.  In short, you have seen how a SMS message is sent 
 using a operators Name label i.e. the Messages says who it's from e.g. 
 TEXT IT, but you are unable to reply because the Sender is 'Text it' 
 and not a mobile number. Well in the same mechanism, you can send a 
 mobile phone number as the Label.  Thus allowing you to send someone a 
 message as if it came from someone else.  I guess this is what is 
 being asked / wanted - spoofing a Mobile.

 It is illegal to do this without consent and you must audit / prove 
 ownership / identity of the phone regarding the use / service (highly
 regulated) - it also carries great risk to the provider (e.g. 2 
 Million fine from ICTICS), hence most companies reluctance etc.

 I believe Skype have recently introduced this service (but it's 
 expensive) if Brian wants to try it out.  We can do the same if 
 required, as too relay all reply messages via email / texts if needed.

 Kind Regards
 Shaun Nixon
 Principal Consultant

 W: www.textit.biz



 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Perkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 13 July 2007 01:05
 To: Shaun M. Nixon
 Subject: FW: [PHP] SMS questions

 I saw this and I though of you Shaun. You have any answers ?
 Cheers


 -Original Message-
 From: Brian Dunning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 13 July 2007 00:40
 To: php-general@lists.php.net
 Subject: [PHP] SMS questions

 Hi all - I've been looking at a number of the commercial service 
 providers for bulk SMS messaging, most of whom have PHP APIs. But 
 since they are selling something they don't answer my question

 Is there any (legal, legitimate) way to send an SMS message that can 
 be replied to the desired SMS cell number? Like, if I use PHP to send 
 an SMS to Bob, can I make it appear to come from Jim's cell phone so 
 that Bob can reply directly to Jim normally? The services all require 
 Jim to log into their web site to read any replies.

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Re: [PHP] SMS questions

2007-07-13 Thread Richard Lynch
On Thu, July 12, 2007 7:07 pm, Brian Dunning wrote:
 Here's another thing that would be nice: A web service to look up the
 carrier for a cell number. That way you could simply send an email to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], though this would still be only a partial
 solution. This is a lot harder now that numbers are transportable
 between carriers.

If you have the service from the SMS vendors, you can lookup the
carrier for any number.

If there was a web service for it, you'd have a zillion more spammers
using those gateways to send text messages to random cell numbers.  Oh
joy.

 I was not able to find any service provider that makes the SMS
 messages appear to come from the sender's cell phone, so they could
 be replied to normally.

So you'll have to play postman and route things through your number.

Doesn't seem that onerous to me...

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Re: [PHP] SMS questions

2007-07-13 Thread Richard Lynch
On Thu, July 12, 2007 6:39 pm, Brian Dunning wrote:
 Hi all - I've been looking at a number of the commercial service
 providers for bulk SMS messaging, most of whom have PHP APIs. But
 since they are selling something they don't answer my question

 Is there any (legal, legitimate) way to send an SMS message that can
 be replied to the desired SMS cell number? Like, if I use PHP to send
 an SMS to Bob, can I make it appear to come from Jim's cell phone so
 that Bob can reply directly to Jim normally? The services all require
 Jim to log into their web site to read any replies.

Almost for sure no.

The SMS carriers are taking their lessons from email spam and pretty
much won't let you do anything even remotely like that hinky.

Plus, their only customers are mostly, umm, errr, ring tones and
fortune-tellers, so they have more than enough problems already with
disputed billing from their clients' customers.

Hmmm.  I'm probably conflating SMS short code provisioning with more
general short code services, as I only worked on a short code
application...  But I'm betting you can't forge the caller phone
number even in regular messaging.  Just too much room for abuse
there.

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Re: [PHP] SMS questions

2007-07-13 Thread Richard Lynch
It's annoying as crap to work with them.

But if they were not so vigilant and picuyane, you know what we'd have?

A zillion spam phone messages ringing your cell day and night from all
kinds of idiots.

Do you really want that?

I sure don't.

Give them at least some credit for trying to be responsible, even if
it does stifle lot of potentially useful applications.

I'd give a lot of money to be able to teleport back in time and yell
at the email designer folks to tell them just how horrible a mess they
were making... :-)

On Thu, July 12, 2007 6:56 pm, Nathan Nobbe wrote:
 Brian,

 I was experimenting late last year using PHP to send SMS messages.  I
 think
 there is a
 lot of potential in the marketplace around SMS.  But most of the phone
 companies wouldnt
 even talk to me and all i was trying to do was hit a development API
 to test
 some code out.
 im almost certain you will have to go through a provider if you intend
 to
 have messages source #
 based upon a value you provide rather than a phone you own.
 i have already grown a deep hatred for telcos due to this exclusive
 club
 thing they have going.
 i will focus all my energy on any opportunity that arises to thwart
 them.
 good luck,

 -nathan

 On 7/12/07, Brian Dunning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all - I've been looking at a number of the commercial service
 providers for bulk SMS messaging, most of whom have PHP APIs. But
 since they are selling something they don't answer my question

 Is there any (legal, legitimate) way to send an SMS message that can
 be replied to the desired SMS cell number? Like, if I use PHP to
 send
 an SMS to Bob, can I make it appear to come from Jim's cell phone so
 that Bob can reply directly to Jim normally? The services all
 require
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Re: [PHP] SMS questions

2007-07-13 Thread Crayon Shin Chan
On Friday 13 July 2007 14:07, Richard Lynch wrote:

 I'd give a lot of money to be able to teleport back in time and yell
 at the email designer folks to tell them just how horrible a mess they
 were making... :-)

But you have to give them credit for designing something so scaleable that 
even decades later it is still able to cope with the billions of spam. On 
the other hand if it weren't so scaleable it might have forced some 
drastic changes much earlier to curtail spam. Something like this:

http://cr.yp.to/im2000.html

in which the sender is responsible for storing the mail until the intended 
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Re: [PHP] SMS questions

2007-07-13 Thread Robert Cummings
On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 22:30 +0800, Crayon Shin Chan wrote:
 On Friday 13 July 2007 14:07, Richard Lynch wrote:
 
  I'd give a lot of money to be able to teleport back in time and yell
  at the email designer folks to tell them just how horrible a mess they
  were making... :-)
 
 But you have to give them credit for designing something so scaleable that 
 even decades later it is still able to cope with the billions of spam. On 
 the other hand if it weren't so scaleable it might have forced some 
 drastic changes much earlier to curtail spam. Something like this:
 
   http://cr.yp.to/im2000.html
 
 in which the sender is responsible for storing the mail until the intended 
 recipient retrieves it seems like a good start.

Bleh, that's so easily solvable for spammers. Create one real message,
then softllink it for every actual email they send out. Millions of
links are cheap.

Of course, that sort of presumes they use their own computers :)

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Re: [PHP] SMS questions

2007-07-13 Thread Dan

Might want to retry that link, it's broken.

- Dan

Steve Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Richard makes some good points.

Further to the original posting though, I have a friend who works with 
this

SMS stuff, and out of interest asked him about it. Here is his (slightly
scary) response, might be of some use ...

His website is www.textit,biz



-Original Message-
From: Shaun M. Nixon
Sent: 13 July 2007 09:17
To: Steve Perkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FW: [PHP] SMS questions

Hi Steve

Hope you're doing fine.

It is possible.  In short, you have seen how a SMS message is sent using a
operators Name label i.e. the Messages says who it's from e.g. TEXT IT, 
but

you are unable to reply because the Sender is 'Text it' and not a mobile
number. Well in the same mechanism, you can send a mobile phone number as
the Label.  Thus allowing you to send someone a message as if it came from
someone else.  I guess this is what is being asked / wanted - spoofing a
Mobile.

It is illegal to do this without consent and you must audit / prove
ownership / identity of the phone regarding the use / service (highly
regulated) - it also carries great risk to the provider (e.g. 2 Million 
fine

from ICTICS), hence most companies reluctance etc.

I believe Skype have recently introduced this service (but it's expensive)
if Brian wants to try it out.  We can do the same if required, as too 
relay

all reply messages via email / texts if needed.

Kind Regards
Shaun Nixon
Principal Consultant

W: www.textit.biz



-Original Message-
From: Steve Perkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 13 July 2007 01:05
To: Shaun M. Nixon
Subject: FW: [PHP] SMS questions

I saw this and I though of you Shaun. You have any answers ?
Cheers


-Original Message-
From: Brian Dunning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 13 July 2007 00:40
To: php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: [PHP] SMS questions

Hi all - I've been looking at a number of the commercial service providers
for bulk SMS messaging, most of whom have PHP APIs. But since they are
selling something they don't answer my question

Is there any (legal, legitimate) way to send an SMS message that can be
replied to the desired SMS cell number? Like, if I use PHP to send an SMS 
to

Bob, can I make it appear to come from Jim's cell phone so that Bob can
reply directly to Jim normally? The services all require Jim to log into
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Re: [PHP] SMS questions

2007-07-13 Thread Richard Lynch
On Fri, July 13, 2007 9:38 am, Robert Cummings wrote:
 On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 22:30 +0800, Crayon Shin Chan wrote:
 On Friday 13 July 2007 14:07, Richard Lynch wrote:

  I'd give a lot of money to be able to teleport back in time and
 yell
  at the email designer folks to tell them just how horrible a mess
 they
  were making... :-)

 But you have to give them credit for designing something so
 scaleable that
 even decades later it is still able to cope with the billions of
 spam. On
 the other hand if it weren't so scaleable it might have forced some
 drastic changes much earlier to curtail spam. Something like this:

  http://cr.yp.to/im2000.html

 in which the sender is responsible for storing the mail until the
 intended
 recipient retrieves it seems like a good start.

 Bleh, that's so easily solvable for spammers. Create one real message,
 then softllink it for every actual email they send out. Millions of
 links are cheap.

 Of course, that sort of presumes they use their own computers :)

It won't reduce the number of spams being sent, but at least they'll
be a lot smaller, with only a couple headers...

Plus, any rampant spammer can be tracked down to their hard drive, and
action can be taken, or their URLs can just be blocked by proxies to
end traffic to them.

It won't eliminate, or even reduce spam, most likely, but it oughta
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Re: [PHP] SMS questions

2007-07-12 Thread Nathan Nobbe

Brian,

I was experimenting late last year using PHP to send SMS messages.  I think
there is a
lot of potential in the marketplace around SMS.  But most of the phone
companies wouldnt
even talk to me and all i was trying to do was hit a development API to test
some code out.
im almost certain you will have to go through a provider if you intend to
have messages source #
based upon a value you provide rather than a phone you own.
i have already grown a deep hatred for telcos due to this exclusive club
thing they have going.
i will focus all my energy on any opportunity that arises to thwart them.
good luck,

-nathan

On 7/12/07, Brian Dunning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi all - I've been looking at a number of the commercial service
providers for bulk SMS messaging, most of whom have PHP APIs. But
since they are selling something they don't answer my question

Is there any (legal, legitimate) way to send an SMS message that can
be replied to the desired SMS cell number? Like, if I use PHP to send
an SMS to Bob, can I make it appear to come from Jim's cell phone so
that Bob can reply directly to Jim normally? The services all require
Jim to log into their web site to read any replies.

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Re: [PHP] SMS questions

2007-07-12 Thread Nathan Nobbe

Brian,


Here's another thing that would be nice: A web service to look up the
carrier for a cell number. That way you could simply send an email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], though this would still be only a partial
solution. This is a lot harder now that numbers are transportable
between carriers.


from what i can tell this is somewhat of a pipe dream, unless youre a big
company that a telco *really* likes and have tons of money.  the voip
industry
which ive been working in for nearly 2 years now has lots of feature like
this.
the only reason they have those features is because of the sheer nature of
voip, which enables almost anyone to provide telephone functionality over
the
internet.
cell phones are a totally different story though and my fear is the only way
to
get in is a dirty hack they [telcos] are overlooking that if properly
exploited could become
an open source movement that the phone companies would have to accept.
something similar to the open source voip movement but w/ cell phones.
i was close to this hack late last year, but its so unreliable that theres
no way
to go to production w/ it.

-nathan

On 7/12/07, Brian Dunning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Here's another thing that would be nice: A web service to look up the
carrier for a cell number. That way you could simply send an email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], though this would still be only a partial
solution. This is a lot harder now that numbers are transportable
between carriers.

I was not able to find any service provider that makes the SMS
messages appear to come from the sender's cell phone, so they could
be replied to normally.

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Re: [PHP] SMS questions

2007-07-12 Thread Brian Dunning
Here's another thing that would be nice: A web service to look up the  
carrier for a cell number. That way you could simply send an email to  
[EMAIL PROTECTED], though this would still be only a partial  
solution. This is a lot harder now that numbers are transportable  
between carriers.


I was not able to find any service provider that makes the SMS  
messages appear to come from the sender's cell phone, so they could  
be replied to normally.


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RE: [PHP] SMS questions

2007-07-12 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip]
...schtuff
[/snip]

Please, do not cast aspersions upon the telcos, for those of us who work
in the industry cannot even get some of what you are talking about. We
have a vendor that provides the SMS part and they will not expose the
SMS API to us (not all SMS platforms are equal either) and we paid for
the equipment and software.

But alas, I do have an advantage. I have reversed engineered some of the
items and continue to work on this using PHP. If I can ever make it
stable it will be a great kernel for an open source project. I must
caution however that work proceeds slowly because the real job keeps
jumping in the way.

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Re: [PHP] sms through teleflip and php?

2007-01-16 Thread tg-php
I'm guessing the SMS system is rejecting the email because it's lacking some 
headers that mail programs tend to use... and spammers sometimes forget.

You might send your email from Thunderbird.. CC yourself on it.  Verify that it 
went through as a text message, then open the CC'd copy and look at the 
headers.  You can start by taking all those headers and putting them into your 
PHP script then slowly commenting some out until you get just what you need and 
not a lot of extra garbage (to keep it simple and semi-elegant).

That's where I'd start at least.

-TG

= = = Original message = = =

Has anyone been able to successfully send a text message using php and the
mail function?

It works fine if I open up thunderbird and send a message to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] but if I use the mail function:

mail([EMAIL PROTECTED], test, test);

It doesn't work.  I've tried several different approaches so was curious if
others have used it successfully.

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Re: [PHP] sms through teleflip and php?

2007-01-16 Thread tg-php
Maybe phpMailer isn't sending the correct headers either.  Sometimes all it 
takes is one missing header that a system is looking for and it may filter it 
as spam or something.

Again, I encourage you to examine the headers from your Thunderbird good 
email and compare it to your PHP and/or phpMailer headers that are getting 
sent.  Possibly try to emulate the successful email as much as possible by 
copying the headers from a known successful message.

If that doesn't work, then you may contact teleflip or whatever service you're 
trying to send text messages to and ask them if they can provide any 
information as to why it may not be going through.  Never know, might find 
someone with half a brain who can help.

-TG

= = = Original message = = =

I tried using phpMailer and all and it nothing seems to work right.  I can
send it fine through thunderbird but it just seems to complain via php.  Not
sure why.

On 1/16/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I'm guessing the SMS system is rejecting the email because it's lacking
 some headers that mail programs tend to use... and spammers sometimes
 forget.

 You might send your email from Thunderbird.. CC yourself on it.  Verify
 that it went through as a text message, then open the CC'd copy and look at
 the headers.  You can start by taking all those headers and putting them
 into your PHP script then slowly commenting some out until you get just what
 you need and not a lot of extra garbage (to keep it simple and
 semi-elegant).

 That's where I'd start at least.

 -TG

 = = = Original message = = =

 Has anyone been able to successfully send a text message using php and the
 mail function?

 It works fine if I open up thunderbird and send a message to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] but if I use the mail function:

 mail([EMAIL PROTECTED], test, test);

 It doesn't work.  I've tried several different approaches so was curious
 if
 others have used it successfully.

 Thanks!


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Re: [PHP] sms through teleflip and php?

2007-01-16 Thread Jochem Maas
also consider that there maybe a reverse lookup being done on the sending MTA
that the sms gateway doesn't consider kosher .. and/or that the IP of the
sending MTA is grey-listed/black-listed.

also a check may be being done to see if the sender's account exists
on the sender's [your servers] domain.

check the relevant logs on your server to see what (if anything)
the sms gateway is asking your server. (no idea what/where those logs
are hiding out).

sorry if this all sounds vague, I'm mostly parroting what others have said
in the past - I'm hardly what you would call knowledgable with regard to mail 
servers
and all that jazz.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Maybe phpMailer isn't sending the correct headers either.  Sometimes all it 
 takes is one missing header that a system is looking for and it may filter it 
 as spam or something.
 
 Again, I encourage you to examine the headers from your Thunderbird good 
 email and compare it to your PHP and/or phpMailer headers that are getting 
 sent.  Possibly try to emulate the successful email as much as possible by 
 copying the headers from a known successful message.
 
 If that doesn't work, then you may contact teleflip or whatever service 
 you're trying to send text messages to and ask them if they can provide any 
 information as to why it may not be going through.  Never know, might find 
 someone with half a brain who can help.
 
 -TG
 
 = = = Original message = = =
 
 I tried using phpMailer and all and it nothing seems to work right.  I can
 send it fine through thunderbird but it just seems to complain via php.  Not
 sure why.
 
 On 1/16/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 I'm guessing the SMS system is rejecting the email because it's lacking
 some headers that mail programs tend to use... and spammers sometimes
 forget.

 You might send your email from Thunderbird.. CC yourself on it.  Verify
 that it went through as a text message, then open the CC'd copy and look at
 the headers.  You can start by taking all those headers and putting them
 into your PHP script then slowly commenting some out until you get just what
 you need and not a lot of extra garbage (to keep it simple and
 semi-elegant).

 That's where I'd start at least.

 -TG

 = = = Original message = = =

 Has anyone been able to successfully send a text message using php and the
 mail function?

 It works fine if I open up thunderbird and send a message to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] but if I use the mail function:

 mail([EMAIL PROTECTED], test, test);

 It doesn't work.  I've tried several different approaches so was curious
 if
 others have used it successfully.

 Thanks!
 
 
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Re: [PHP] sms through teleflip and php?

2007-01-16 Thread blackwater dev

Thanks for all the insights.  It appears that it might have thought my email
was spam as I sent it from another server and it worked fine.

Thanks!

On 1/16/07, Jochem Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


also consider that there maybe a reverse lookup being done on the sending
MTA
that the sms gateway doesn't consider kosher .. and/or that the IP of the
sending MTA is grey-listed/black-listed.

also a check may be being done to see if the sender's account exists
on the sender's [your servers] domain.

check the relevant logs on your server to see what (if anything)
the sms gateway is asking your server. (no idea what/where those logs
are hiding out).

sorry if this all sounds vague, I'm mostly parroting what others have said
in the past - I'm hardly what you would call knowledgable with regard to
mail servers
and all that jazz.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Maybe phpMailer isn't sending the correct headers either.  Sometimes all
it takes is one missing header that a system is looking for and it may
filter it as spam or something.

 Again, I encourage you to examine the headers from your Thunderbird
good email and compare it to your PHP and/or phpMailer headers that are
getting sent.  Possibly try to emulate the successful email as much as
possible by copying the headers from a known successful message.

 If that doesn't work, then you may contact teleflip or whatever service
you're trying to send text messages to and ask them if they can provide any
information as to why it may not be going through.  Never know, might find
someone with half a brain who can help.

 -TG

 = = = Original message = = =

 I tried using phpMailer and all and it nothing seems to work right.  I
can
 send it fine through thunderbird but it just seems to complain via
php.  Not
 sure why.

 On 1/16/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 wrote:
 I'm guessing the SMS system is rejecting the email because it's lacking
 some headers that mail programs tend to use... and spammers sometimes
 forget.

 You might send your email from Thunderbird.. CC yourself on it.  Verify
 that it went through as a text message, then open the CC'd copy and
look at
 the headers.  You can start by taking all those headers and putting
them
 into your PHP script then slowly commenting some out until you get just
what
 you need and not a lot of extra garbage (to keep it simple and
 semi-elegant).

 That's where I'd start at least.

 -TG

 = = = Original message = = =

 Has anyone been able to successfully send a text message using php and
the
 mail function?

 It works fine if I open up thunderbird and send a message to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] but if I use the mail function:

 mail([EMAIL PROTECTED], test, test);

 It doesn't work.  I've tried several different approaches so was
curious
 if
 others have used it successfully.

 Thanks!


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Re: [PHP] sms through teleflip and php?

2007-01-16 Thread Jochem Maas
blackwater dev wrote:
 Thanks for all the insights.  It appears that it might have thought my
 email
 was spam as I sent it from another server and it worked fine.

which makes it even more likely that the 'bad' server doesn't have it's
relevant MX DNS records setup properly - I can't really tell you what properly
entails - it's a responsiblity I hand off to the relevant sys admin :-)

 
 Thanks!
 
 On 1/16/07, Jochem Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 also consider that there maybe a reverse lookup being done on the sending
 MTA
 that the sms gateway doesn't consider kosher .. and/or that the IP of the
 sending MTA is grey-listed/black-listed.

 also a check may be being done to see if the sender's account exists
 on the sender's [your servers] domain.

 check the relevant logs on your server to see what (if anything)
 the sms gateway is asking your server. (no idea what/where those logs
 are hiding out).

 sorry if this all sounds vague, I'm mostly parroting what others have
 said
 in the past - I'm hardly what you would call knowledgable with regard to
 mail servers
 and all that jazz.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Maybe phpMailer isn't sending the correct headers either.  Sometimes
 all
 it takes is one missing header that a system is looking for and it may
 filter it as spam or something.
 
  Again, I encourage you to examine the headers from your Thunderbird
 good email and compare it to your PHP and/or phpMailer headers that are
 getting sent.  Possibly try to emulate the successful email as much as
 possible by copying the headers from a known successful message.
 
  If that doesn't work, then you may contact teleflip or whatever service
 you're trying to send text messages to and ask them if they can
 provide any
 information as to why it may not be going through.  Never know, might
 find
 someone with half a brain who can help.
 
  -TG
 
  = = = Original message = = =
 
  I tried using phpMailer and all and it nothing seems to work right.  I
 can
  send it fine through thunderbird but it just seems to complain via
 php.  Not
  sure why.
 
  On 1/16/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  wrote:
  I'm guessing the SMS system is rejecting the email because it's
 lacking
  some headers that mail programs tend to use... and spammers sometimes
  forget.
 
  You might send your email from Thunderbird.. CC yourself on it. 
 Verify
  that it went through as a text message, then open the CC'd copy and
 look at
  the headers.  You can start by taking all those headers and putting
 them
  into your PHP script then slowly commenting some out until you get
 just
 what
  you need and not a lot of extra garbage (to keep it simple and
  semi-elegant).
 
  That's where I'd start at least.
 
  -TG
 
  = = = Original message = = =
 
  Has anyone been able to successfully send a text message using php and
 the
  mail function?
 
  It works fine if I open up thunderbird and send a message to
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] but if I use the mail function:
 
  mail([EMAIL PROTECTED], test, test);
 
  It doesn't work.  I've tried several different approaches so was
 curious
  if
  others have used it successfully.
 
  Thanks!
 
 
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RE: [PHP] SMS with php recommendation (a bit 0T i guess)

2006-06-19 Thread Daevid Vincent
For what it's worth, most cell phone providers have an email gateway which
works just as good as an SMS message (and it's free!).

Just find the email address to send to for each carrier and store in a
table.

For example, for my Cingular (ATT) phone, it is my [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Where the X's represent the phone number.

Cheers,

DÆVID  

 -Original Message-
 From: Ryan A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 11:17 AM
 To: php php
 Subject: [PHP] SMS with php recommendation (a bit 0T i guess)
 
 Hey,
 
 Right now I am using PSWIN to send SMS messages from
 my php scripts, can anybody recommend a (reliable)
 company that i can use instead?
 
 We fill up on 25euros everytime on pswin, so i am
 not looking for a free provider, just a reliable and
 good priced one.
 
 PSwin is good, problem is they are charging us a euro
 .20 per day just for using the service, so even if we
 dont send a single sms per day we are getting
 charged...not good. 
 
 Thanks,
 Ryan
 
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Re: [PHP] SMS with php recommendation (a bit 0T i guess)

2006-06-18 Thread cajbecu
http://www.clickatell.com/brochure/products/developer_solutions.php

Ryan A wrote:
 Hey,
 
 Right now I am using PSWIN to send SMS messages from
 my php scripts, can anybody recommend a (reliable)
 company that i can use instead?
 
 We fill up on 25euros everytime on pswin, so i am
 not looking for a free provider, just a reliable and
 good priced one.
 
 PSwin is good, problem is they are charging us a euro
 .20 per day just for using the service, so even if we
 dont send a single sms per day we are getting
 charged...not good. 
 
 Thanks,
 Ryan
 
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Re: [PHP] SMS with php recommendation (a bit 0T i guess)

2006-06-18 Thread John Nichel

Ryan A wrote:

Hey,

Right now I am using PSWIN to send SMS messages from
my php scripts, can anybody recommend a (reliable)
company that i can use instead?

We fill up on 25euros everytime on pswin, so i am
not looking for a free provider, just a reliable and
good priced one.

PSwin is good, problem is they are charging us a euro
.20 per day just for using the service, so even if we
dont send a single sms per day we are getting
charged...not good. 


Thanks,
Ryan


http://www.clickatell.com/

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Re: [PHP] SMS with php recommendation (a bit 0T i guess)

2006-06-18 Thread Ryan A
Hey,


http://www.clickatell.com/brochure/products/developer_solutions.php

Ok, clickatell seems to be the popular choice around
here, will have a look see

In the meantime feel free to recommend any others.

Thanks for replying guys.

Cheers!
Ryan

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RE: [PHP] SMS E-Mail and other oddities

2006-05-11 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip]
Send us some source code and we can help you out!
[/snip]

Always reply to the list and please do not top post.

$poot = ini_set(sendmail_from, '[EMAIL PROTECTED]');
$smsTo   = $_POST['smsPhone'] . '@sms.myserver.com'; 
$to  =  $smsTo;
$subject =  $_POST['smsSubject'];
$message =  $_POST['smsMessage'];
$headers =  'From: '. $poot . \r\n .
'Reply-To: '. $poot . \r\n;
echo $to;
mail($to, $subject, $message, $headers);

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Re: [PHP] SMS E-Mail and other oddities

2006-05-11 Thread Eric Butera

On 5/11/06, Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snip]
Send us some source code and we can help you out!
[/snip]

Always reply to the list and please do not top post.

$poot = ini_set(sendmail_from, '[EMAIL PROTECTED]');
$smsTo   = $_POST['smsPhone'] . '@sms.myserver.com';
$to  =  $smsTo;
$subject =  $_POST['smsSubject'];
$message =  $_POST['smsMessage'];
$headers =  'From: '. $poot . \r\n .
'Reply-To: '. $poot . \r\n;
echo $to;
mail($to, $subject, $message, $headers);

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Try

$additional = -f . $poot;
mail($to, $subject, $message, $headers, $additional);

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Re: [PHP] SMS E-Mail and other oddities

2006-05-11 Thread Stut

Jay Blanchard wrote:

$poot = ini_set(sendmail_from, '[EMAIL PROTECTED]');
$smsTo 	 = $_POST['smsPhone'] . '@sms.myserver.com'; 
$to  = 	$smsTo;

$subject =  $_POST['smsSubject'];
$message =  $_POST['smsMessage'];
$headers =  'From: '. $poot . \r\n .
'Reply-To: '. $poot . \r\n;
echo $to;
mail($to, $subject, $message, $headers);


What platform are you on? If you're on a UNIX variant you want to use 
the secret 5th parameter of mail like so...


$fromaddress = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]';
mail($to, $subject, $message, $headers, '-f'.$fromaddress);

If you're on Windows AFAIK you're stuffed unless you use a class to send 
the mail directly - see phpclasses et al for that sort of thing.


-Stut

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RE: [PHP] SMS E-Mail and other oddities

2006-05-11 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip]
$fromaddress = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]';
mail($to, $subject, $message, $headers, '-f'.$fromaddress);
[/snip]

Cool...worked like a champeene race dog! (Say it with a Southern drawl)

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Re: [PHP] SMS E-Mail and other oddities

2006-05-11 Thread Richard Lynch
On Thu, May 11, 2006 3:16 pm, Jay Blanchard wrote:
 I am attempting to send SMS via an e-mail messageand it works!
 *phew* phonenumber@sms.myserver.com

 Problem is that the reply to or from field on the device always shows
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] regardless of what I have set the Replay-To: or
 From: headers. PHP runs as nobody, so this makes sensekinda'. So I
 tried ini_set() and regardless of that the From: is always nobody. How
 can I fix this? I am trying many things right now, but my stomach
 hurts
 and my eyes are buggin'...if anyone can help let me know!

First:
Does it work with regular email going to a regular account?
Almost-for-sure it will, but let's be methodical about eliminating
D'oh mistakes.

Next:
Is there an SMS spec somewhere with some OTHER header they want for
From / Reply-to / Error-to / X-SMS-From or something?
You have to put in effort on this to eliminate the possibility that
you're just missing some goofy SMS header.

Next:
Try it with different SMS clients and devices and...
Maybe it's just one SMS client/device/server

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Re: [PHP] SMS from pc to mobile phone

2004-04-07 Thread saepudin
On Wednesday 07 April 2004 10:29, saepudin wrote:
 hi,
  I want to send  an SMS(to mobile phone etc) based on a database trigger or
 on completion of an php page. the site runs on linux.
  how to do this. How do i send the mobile no . what is the language,
 protocol, syntax and platform.
  if anyone knows please inform. i am unable to
  understand how to write the code so a sample code will be very welcome.
  thanks a lot

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Re: [PHP] SMS message ?

2002-07-30 Thread SenthilVelavan

Hi Ranaivo Rija,
Try this website
http://www.k1m.com/scripts/sms_web_sender/ for more information.
 It's about  SMS Web Sender .It  is a PHP class which connects to a web
site offering free SMS sending, logs you in with your username and password
and sends your SMS message to a mobile number.

regards,
SenthilVelavan.P

- Original Message -
From: Rija [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PHP-General [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 8:25 AM
Subject: [PHP] SMS message ?


Hi all,
I'm a newbie, and I'd like some advice, and I don't have any idea, maybe
it's a silly question.

Is-it possible to send SMS message to mobile phone using PHP?

For example, every monday I send some news about my web site to the mobile
phone of my visitors with their approval, of course.

If possible, how to do it.
If not, does anyone have any other ideas how to do this?


Best regards,

Ranaivo Rija
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
BP 1528 Port Vila
Vanuatu


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RE: [PHP] SMS Again, UK

2002-07-01 Thread Simon Ritchie

Well, funnily enough, your question has much the same answer ...

If you have a mobile phone and your service provider offers a web gateway,
you can use it to send SMS messages. They will provide a script that you can
use.  If you have an Orange phone, see the Orange web site.  If it's a Voda,
see their web site, and so on.  The charge is usually the same as it would
be if you sent the message from your phone, but if you have a contract it
may include free messages.

There are services such as NovelSoft (http://www.sms-wap.com) that are
independant of provider, but you have to pay for them too.  Novelsoft is
quite cheap, and there are PHP scripts on the site, but some providers don't
accept their messages.  I have a NovelSoft account, but I can't use it to
send messages to my Orange phone.  I read somewhere that this is because
some of their customers used the service to send spam.

Simon



 -Original Message-
 From: Andy Whittlestone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 01 July 2002 16:49
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [PHP] SMS Again, UK


 Hi i'm from the uk, is there any free php scripts that will allow txt
 messages to be sent within the uk.

 Couldn't get the other one posted here to work either,

 Wanna do a similiar idea to what that other guy was doing, but
 when the UPS
 Kicks in send a txt, but also so i can goto my site and access it
 and send a
 txt for free, :-)

 Cheers Andy



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RE: [PHP] SMS Again, UK

2002-07-01 Thread Simon Ritchie

Oh yes, I forgot about email, which was mentioned in another answer to this
FAQ.

Some providers give you an email address with your phone, for example
I believe that One2One (or whatever it's called today) give you
phonenumberone2one.com.  Email sent to that address arrives at your phone
as an SMS.  Somebody has to pay for the message, so it's probably you.

By the way, there is no guarantees on how long it will take to deliver an
SMS, or if it will ever arrive.  Typically 1% never arrive, more if the
network is very busy because something interesting has just happened on Big
Brother and everybody below 35 in the UK is sending a text (to somebody who
is busy sending them one).  That means it's wise to send a text, wait a few
minutes and send it again.  Buy a UPS with plenty of capacity ...

Oh yes, and don't forget to put all of the network access devices on the
UPS - the router, the switch and so on.  Otherwise when the power fails, you
won't be able to access the message gateway across the web.

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RE: [PHP] SMS with PHP

2002-06-11 Thread Brian McGarvie

another solution would be to by a cellular modem, which can be set up on the 
windows/*nix machine and used to relay the message.

If not - depending on where you are based - some mobile providers do let you interface 
with their sms devices.

You could also have a look at - OpenSMS from www.livesoup.com - not tried it 
personally tho!

 -Original Message-
 From: Jared Boelens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 10 June 2002 6:59 PM
 To: Alexandra Aguiar; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [PHP] SMS with PHP
 
 
 I had this exact need but I was solved partially by my cell 
 phone provider.
 I have verizon and verizon actaully assigns each phone an 
 email address if
 you have text messenging.
 
 So all i had to do was send an email to that address and it 
 would go to my
 phone in about 30 seconds or so.
 
 -Jared
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Alexandra Aguiar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 1:47 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [PHP] SMS with PHP
 
 
 Hello ppl...
 i'd like to know if it's possible that a php script sends  
 message to a cell
 phone... i please anything about it ...
 
 thnx in advance..
 
 Alexandra Aguiar
 
 

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Re: [PHP] SMS with PHP

2002-06-10 Thread Chris Knipe

Not as far as I know.

But the PHP script may very likely be able to send a message to a SMS
Gateway...

SMS messages doesn't run on TCP/IP (Your cell phone doesn't have a IP
Address).

Kind Regards,

Chris Knipe
MegaLAN Corporate Networking Services
Tel: +27 21 854 7064
Cell: +27 72 434 7582

- Original Message -
From: Alexandra Aguiar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 7:46 PM
Subject: [PHP] SMS with PHP


Hello ppl...
i'd like to know if it's possible that a php script sends  message to a cell
phone... i please anything about it ...

thnx in advance..

Alexandra Aguiar



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RE: [PHP] SMS with PHP

2002-06-10 Thread Jared Boelens

I had this exact need but I was solved partially by my cell phone provider.
I have verizon and verizon actaully assigns each phone an email address if
you have text messenging.

So all i had to do was send an email to that address and it would go to my
phone in about 30 seconds or so.

-Jared

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Hello ppl...
i'd like to know if it's possible that a php script sends  message to a cell
phone... i please anything about it ...

thnx in advance..

Alexandra Aguiar


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Re: [PHP] SMS

2002-01-15 Thread Jon Farmer

Hi everyone! I'd be grateful if someone could please tell me a link
where I can find a good tutorial on how to develop a SMS tool with PHP, or
if somebody has already developed something like it, or if there are any
experts around, please give me some information about it.

Can you be more specific. Do you mean you want to send SMS, receive SMS or
do both?

Regards

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Re: [PHP] SMS

2001-12-06 Thread Daniel Berwig

It works with a virtual phone in the site, but I can't try sending SMS
berfore buying it (U$ 400.00). I won't buy a product before being sure it
works.

Does anyone know another method to do it?

Tnx.


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 Heres a code snippet:
 Sorry for leading astray.

 // load the swsms module
 dl( ../swsms.so );

 // create the sms object
 $sms = create_sms();

 // send the carrier list request
 carrierlist_send( $sms );

 // check if the request was a success
 if( ! $sms-success ) {
 // display error info
 print( Unable to retreive a carrier list from Simplewire:  .
$sms-errorDesc . \n );
 print( Error Code:  . $sms-errorCode . \n );
 }
 else {
 // walk the carrier list array
 array_walk( $sms-carrierlist, displayCarrier );
 }

 function displayCarrier( $c ) {
 // display the carrier info
 print( ID:  . $c-id . \n );
 print( Title:  . $c-title . $c-subtitle . \n\n );
 }
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  Does anyone know how could I send data from php through SMS to a cel
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  I simply can't find info about that.
 
  Thanks in advance,
 
  Daniel Berwig.
 
 
 
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Re: [PHP] SMS

2001-11-30 Thread Dan McCullough

I think you need an SMS server to broadcast the data.  Am I correct?
Anyone
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Re: [PHP] SMS

2001-11-30 Thread Henrik Hansen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan McCullough) wrote:

  I think you need an SMS server to broadcast the data.  Am I correct?

you can also send sms with the mail function, but a gsm modem is by
far the best, so for a stabile service either rent a sms service or
get somekind of a gsm modem. AFAIK

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Re: [PHP] SMS

2001-11-30 Thread Henrik Hansen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan McCullough) wrote:

  Heres a code snippet:
  Sorry for leading astray.

  // load the swsms module 
  dl( ../swsms.so ); 

never heard of a sms module in php, where can you get this?

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Re: [PHP] SMS

2001-11-30 Thread Dan McCullough

That example I sent was from a place where they have the swsms shared object which you 
can get in
a developers license, I havent actually tried it, but was looking at it for a project.

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   I think you need an SMS server to broadcast the data.  Am I correct?
 
 you can also send sms with the mail function, but a gsm modem is by
 far the best, so for a stabile service either rent a sms service or
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Re: [PHP] SMS

2001-11-30 Thread Dan McCullough

somewhere in here ... I'm not familiar with the actual object, but if you have success 
withit I
would like to hear how you are doing with it.
http://www.simplewire.com/developers/code/

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   Heres a code snippet:
   Sorry for leading astray.
 
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   dl( ../swsms.so ); 
 
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Re: [PHP] SMS

2001-11-30 Thread Henrik Hansen

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  somewhere in here ... I'm not familiar with the actual object, but if you have 
 success withit I
  would like to hear how you are doing with it.
  http://www.simplewire.com/developers/code/

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Re: [PHP] SMS with php

2001-09-18 Thread Lewis Bergman

Due to all the questions I am posting replies to this thread to a single 
message.

 I'm very intruiged how you have got this to work it was my
 understanding you needed to be running a server, such as kannel, and have a
 contract with an smsc?
No, you don't need anything special.

 could U list the URL

http://www.radio.net/rfc1861.txt?number=1861

 http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1568.txt?number=1568
This is old, Don't use it. The reason is not that any of the commands are 
unusable but there is no reason to go through the trouble of programming to 
do it to an out of date rfc.

 Thats the standard, but because of the other systems involved in delivering
 msgs then I don't think it possible just to do that without the
 co-operation of a third party smsc.
You don't need any third party anything. It is exactly like sending a request 
to a web server (get, post, header, etc...) except the port number will be 
different and the commands are different. But, the premise is the same. OPen 
a socket, send request, process response, send request . I know the 
browser is usually doing a lot of this for you but the point is that if a 
company has a gateway out there you can send messages to it.

 for those who are interested there is a good wap/sms server, open source
 and generally funky kannel (kannel.3glabs.org)
Not neccessary. You can do it with PHP, Perl, Python, C or anything else you 
can bind to a port. It is really not that difficult. If you own a wireless 
company and need to make the actual gateway all the pieces are available to 
stitch together. PHP or some other language for the internet gateway, RTNPP 
that will communicate with the actual terminal. Time is required but not a 
lot of money.

 Yes, but if you don't have a lot of traffic you can use a GSM modem as
 SMS-C. Anyway, any single message will costs as by contract with the
 carrier.

I was not aware that any carrier would attempt to charge someone trying to 
contact one of their subscribers. Surely I misunderstood you here.

I will talk to my employer about releasing the code I have. I am currently 
rewriting it for another application so I am not sure when it would be in a 
state to be released. It currently only has been tested with US based 
companies like skytel, Verizon, ATT, and the like.


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Re: [PHP] SMS with php

2001-09-18 Thread * RzE:

  could U list the URL
 
 http://www.radio.net/rfc1861.txt?number=1861

This URL doesn't exist. Please check it...

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Fwd: Re: [PHP] SMS with php

2001-09-18 Thread Lewis Bergman

http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1861.txt?number=1861
There. How is that. You should still try google. You might turn up more to 
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Re: [PHP] SMS with php

2001-09-18 Thread * RzE:

 http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1861.txt?number=1861
 There. How is that.

A lot better :)

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Re: [PHP] SMS with php

2001-09-17 Thread Tom Carter

I'm very intruiged how you have got this to work it was my understanding
you needed to be running a server, such as kannel, and have a contract with
an smsc?

Is this so?

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Subject: Re: [PHP] SMS with php


  Hi,
 
  Does anyone know how to send a sms message to a handphone using PHP?
 
  Thanks and regards,
  Alva Chew
 I have a class that does it. It is very easy. See the RFC on SNPP and some
 use standard mail servers.


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Re: [PHP] SMS with php

2001-09-17 Thread nico_oreka

http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1568.txt?number=1568

maybe something can be done with that 


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Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP] SMS with php


 I'm very intruiged how you have got this to work it was my
understanding
 you needed to be running a server, such as kannel, and have a contract
with
 an smsc?

 Is this so?

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 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [PHP] SMS with php


   Hi,
  
   Does anyone know how to send a sms message to a handphone using PHP?
  
   Thanks and regards,
   Alva Chew
  I have a class that does it. It is very easy. See the RFC on SNPP and
some
  use standard mail servers.
 
 
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Re: [PHP] SMS with php

2001-09-17 Thread Tom Carter

Thats the standard, but because of the other systems involved in delivering
msgs then I don't think it possible just to do that without the co-operation
of a third party smsc.

I really hope I'm wrong tho...
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Subject: Re: [PHP] SMS with php


 http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1568.txt?number=1568

 maybe something can be done with that 


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 To: Lewis Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 10:51 AM
 Subject: Re: [PHP] SMS with php


  I'm very intruiged how you have got this to work it was my
 understanding
  you needed to be running a server, such as kannel, and have a contract
 with
  an smsc?
 
  Is this so?
 
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  From: Lewis Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [PHP] SMS with php
 
 
Hi,
   
Does anyone know how to send a sms message to a handphone using PHP?
   
Thanks and regards,
Alva Chew
   I have a class that does it. It is very easy. See the RFC on SNPP and
 some
   use standard mail servers.
  
  
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Re: [PHP] SMS with php

2001-09-17 Thread Tom Carter

for those who are interested there is a good wap/sms server, open source and
generally funky kannel (kannel.3glabs.org)

It's all you need to server wap, but sms does requrie a contract (=cost
money) with a service centre

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To: nico_oreka [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lewis Bergman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP] SMS with php


 Thats the standard, but because of the other systems involved in
delivering
 msgs then I don't think it possible just to do that without the
co-operation
 of a third party smsc.

 I really hope I'm wrong tho...
 - Original Message -
 From: nico_oreka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Tom Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lewis Bergman
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:00 AM
 Subject: Re: [PHP] SMS with php


  http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1568.txt?number=1568
 
  maybe something can be done with that 
 
 
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  To: Lewis Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 10:51 AM
  Subject: Re: [PHP] SMS with php
 
 
   I'm very intruiged how you have got this to work it was my
  understanding
   you needed to be running a server, such as kannel, and have a contract
  with
   an smsc?
  
   Is this so?
  
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   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:59 AM
   Subject: Re: [PHP] SMS with php
  
  
 Hi,

 Does anyone know how to send a sms message to a handphone using
PHP?

 Thanks and regards,
 Alva Chew
I have a class that does it. It is very easy. See the RFC on SNPP
and
  some
use standard mail servers.
   
   
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Re: [PHP] SMS with php

2001-09-17 Thread nico_oreka

I personnaly provide SMS sending from my site, see under, but I awfully
leeched it from www.exoset.com
It works well, but there are ads .


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Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP] SMS with php


 for those who are interested there is a good wap/sms server, open source
and
 generally funky kannel (kannel.3glabs.org)

 It's all you need to server wap, but sms does requrie a contract (=cost
 money) with a service centre

 - Original Message -
 From: Tom Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: nico_oreka [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lewis Bergman
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:07 AM
 Subject: Re: [PHP] SMS with php


  Thats the standard, but because of the other systems involved in
 delivering
  msgs then I don't think it possible just to do that without the
 co-operation
  of a third party smsc.
 
  I really hope I'm wrong tho...
  - Original Message -
  From: nico_oreka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Tom Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lewis Bergman
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Subject: Re: [PHP] SMS with php
 
 
   http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1568.txt?number=1568
  
   maybe something can be done with that 
  
  
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   Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 10:51 AM
   Subject: Re: [PHP] SMS with php
  
  
I'm very intruiged how you have got this to work it was my
   understanding
you needed to be running a server, such as kannel, and have a
contract
   with
an smsc?
   
Is this so?
   
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [PHP] SMS with php
   
   
  Hi,
 
  Does anyone know how to send a sms message to a handphone using
 PHP?
 
  Thanks and regards,
  Alva Chew
 I have a class that does it. It is very easy. See the RFC on SNPP
 and
   some
 use standard mail servers.


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Re: [PHP] SMS with php

2001-09-16 Thread Lewis Bergman

 Hi,
 
 Does anyone know how to send a sms message to a handphone using PHP?
 
 Thanks and regards,
 Alva Chew
I have a class that does it. It is very easy. See the RFC on SNPP and some 
use standard mail servers.


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Re: [PHP] SMs

2001-01-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 13 Jan 2001, Dhaval Desai wrote:
Hi Dhaval,

 I am trying to build a SMS(Short message service)
It is really very simple as long as you have a tie up with SMSC (usually a
mobile phone service operator) 

Then all you have to do is (in most cases) send a specially formatted
email to the SMSC the email address is usually
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 mesaging system..can anybody tell me what are the
 requirements for this...
For developement purposes visit http://www.gnokii.org 

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Re: [PHP] SMs

2001-01-14 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega \MR\

""Bastian"" ...
 Hello!

 A requirement is a special server that sends them, but such a server costs
 money, every message costs some.

I read somewhere that you could send SMs if you had your mobile phone linked
to your computer, and special software to needful to make the PC-mobile
interaction...

That way, you could send SMs by your mobile phone... but they should cost as
if you were sending them.



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Re: [PHP] SMs

2001-01-14 Thread Josh G

yeah you can do that, don't know about other phones, but for nokia
you need the cable, a phone with the appropriate plugs (ie a 5xx0 /
6xx0 / 7xx0 / 9xx0 model phone, not a 8xx0 or 3xx0 model), and
the nokia data suite or free alternative if they exist for your operating
system.

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Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP] SMs


 ""Bastian"" ...
  Hello!
 
  A requirement is a special server that sends them, but such a server
costs
  money, every message costs some.

 I read somewhere that you could send SMs if you had your mobile phone
linked
 to your computer, and special software to needful to make the PC-mobile
 interaction...

 That way, you could send SMs by your mobile phone... but they should cost
as
 if you were sending them.



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Re: [PHP] SMs

2001-01-14 Thread Alain Fontaine

Hi,

This "special server" is usually called an SMSC - SMS Center, run by your
mobile operator. These SMSC's are pretty powerful in the way that you can
access them through TCP (VPN for sure, and sometimes even HTTP), or through
a direct link connexion. You'd need to talk to your mobile operator to get
an access to it, though. Most offer that as a (paying) service to companies
whow ould like to easily send out mass SMS's to their employees, truck
drivers, agents, etc.

Complete specification for a pretty much used SMSC can be found on the NOKIA
site, in the developer's section.

Now I'm glad I had something to contribute to this list ;)

""Bastian"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit dans le message news:
93s5n7$sh7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hello!

 A requirement is a special server that sends them, but such a server costs
 money, every message costs some.
 Another way is to send the messages to the mailaddress. I only know it
from
 Germany: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Bastian


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  I am trying to build a SMS(Short message service)
  mesaging system..can anybody tell me what are the
  requirements for this...
 
  Thanx a lot!
  Dhaval Desai
 
 
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