Re: Wikipedia

On 2019-01-09 07:58, Mattias Sundblad wrote: > Hi, > >> "IA-32" is not explicitly supported. It would rather be "C" for pil32 >> and "emu" >> on pil64. But this is probably too confusing for a Wikipedia article ;) > > Yes, most likely :) > >> Other supported architectures (besides "x86-64") a

Re: Function similar to Scheme 'foldl'?

Add foldl to standard library? > 9 okt. 2018 kl. 20:59 skrev r...@tamos.net: > >> On Tue, 09 Oct 2018 19:31 +0200, Alexander Burger wrote: >>> On Tue, Oct 09, 2018 at 01:21:07PM -0400, John Duncan wrote: >>> Yes, you couldn't reuse the same initial value for a data structure like >>> you would in

Re: Embedding and such

The 32 bit version was simple to link with other programs when I tried it several years ago. > 13 sep. 2018 kl. 06:59 skrev Alexander Burger : > > Hi Johan, > >> >> Is there a way of embedding the 64-bit version in a C-program, or > > As freemint said, this is not possible, or at least not me

Re: GitHub sold out to Microsoft

> 5 juni 2018 kl. 14:05 skrev Nehal : > > Hello Jakob, > > I believe it's ultimately about principle -> design -> philosophy (of > course security features matter!) of any software/service. Otherwise > why even invest time on picolisp, Java (or similar others) would be > better! While I pers

Re: GitHub sold out to Microsoft

THE selling point of github for individuals and small projects, is the social aspect. And you have to think about what you are securing yourself from. It’s not like GitHub is going to take your code and run. But if you dislike GitHub on principle or because the data mining and the surveillance

Hacker News

PicoLisp made hacker news front page. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16980640

Re: AdventOfCode 2017

Tank feeder? > 2 jan. 2018 kl. 17:47 skrev r...@tamos.net: > >> On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 17:39 +0200, Mike Pechkin wrote: >> p.s. Author of PicoLisp (Alexander Burger) is free for hiring and >> CV available by request. > > Nice touch, tankfeeder. > > -- > UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.d

Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp

Back when I played with it, it could also run ARM apks via emulation. On 2017-09-18 19:52, Alexander Burger wrote: > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 07:10:01PM +0200, Jakob Eriksson wrote: >> What went of Android x86? > > Would work if somebody compiles the bin/picolisp binary for

Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Android Apps in PicoLisp

What went of Android x86? > 18 sep. 2017 kl. 18:19 skrev Alexander Burger : > > Hi Rick, > >> BTW, since I don't have an Android device, I assume that there is a way >> to VM my way to glory and fame in PilBox dev. :) > > The closest thing I can think of is using the emulator(s) that come with

Re: (rand) audit

What does that mean? > 29 aug. 2017 kl. 16:47 skrev Mike Pechkin : > > hi all, > > Buildin (rand) function (D. Knuth's book) passed all tests > by Practically Random software (v0.93). > https://sourceforge.net/projects/pracrand/ > > > While testing I've also implement jsf and sfc RNGs (64bit v

Re: Floating Point numbers vs Fixpoint numbers

Oh, that was quite mundane - as most bugs are when found. :) Huge props to you for finding it so very fast. On 2017-07-15 14:45, Alexander Burger wrote: > On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 02:02:00PM +0200, Jakob Eriksson wrote: >> What was it? > > The diff is: > >2460a2461 &

Re: Floating Point numbers vs Fixpoint numbers

What was it? On 2017-07-15 13:51, Alexander Burger wrote: > On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 12:52:52PM +0200, Alexander Burger wrote: >> I cound not locate the exact location of the bug yet. It is a Heisenbug, >> because >> it only occurs if the garbage collector runs in the right moment. I know this >>

Re: Compiling to bytecode

Still, PicoLisp source, I mean the program you write in PicoLisp, (not the C code) can become quite large depending on your application. We mitigated this, not by storing the "compiled" structures of pointers to pointers. (Although we could have - but that would have been complicated to implemente

Re: Introduction

I enjoyed the writeup On 2017-05-24 21:00, Joh-Tob Schäg wrote: > While your long write-up is certainly welcome it is also unnecessary in > my humble opinion. > We gladly welcome you in the community. Just visit the IRC-channel > #picolisp on freenode.net > > > 2017-05-24 1

Re: picoLisp in custom Buildroot container now enhanced with vip!

Now this is great! > 8 maj 2017 kl. 04:34 skrev David Bloom : > > I humbly submit to you an enhanced version of my small picoLisp container. > This comes from a desire to include Alex's vip into the small picoLisp > container for others to use and learn from as I intend to. The idea behind

Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Mobile Apps in PicoLisp

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13852666 On 2017-03-13 00:20, Jakob Eriksson wrote: > > It made Hacker News! > > http://www.mail-archive.com/picolisp@software-lab.de/msg07233.html > > > On 2017-03-12 17:10, Alexander Burger wrote: >> Hi all, >> >&

Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Mobile Apps in PicoLisp

It made Hacker News! http://www.mail-archive.com/picolisp@software-lab.de/msg07233.html On 2017-03-12 17:10, Alexander Burger wrote: > Hi all, > > it is now possible to build Android Apps completely in PicoLisp! > -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Mobile Apps in PicoLisp

> 12 mars 2017 kl. 20:16 skrev Alexander Burger : > I see no technical reason against it. It is also Arm64. Only that I have no > experience with iOS development. And - the biggest problem perhaps - the > political issues: How to bring such a beast to the apple store? AFAIK no problem given: "

Re: Announce: PilBox - Building Mobile Apps in PicoLisp

Fantastic! On 2017-03-12 17:10, Alexander Burger wrote: > Hi all, > > it is now possible to build Android Apps completely in PicoLisp! > > > I have prepared an environment which lets you run normal PicoLisp (Web-) > applications on Android devices, without the need to write Java code. I'm > us

Re: Unclear licensing

The middle road is something like: /* Copyright 2017 Author. License: XXX */ or /* Copyright 2017 Author. SPDX-License-Identifier: MIT */ But there is NO REQUIREMENT for such a thing. What I do when incorporating a source file which has no license or copyright information at the top: I just

Re: future?

> 10 mars 2017 kl. 01:17 skrev : > > Thanks for your comments and insights, Jakob. > I just want to shortly assure you that I really liked your emails and your > participation. Thanks. > Sidenote: > Before GitHub, sourceforge.net was the singular main hoster for FOSS > sourcecode. > They

Re: in the spirit of RosettaCode...

Another clue could be to look at the server end: For instance one in Python https://github.com/KixPanganiban/todo-falcon/blob/master/todo.py AFAIK the whole thing is like a "hello world" for persistence on the server and a very light GUI on the client. On 2017-03-01 08:46, Alexander Burger w

Re: Future of PicoLisp?

And I would be interested in working on a package or module system similar to "pip" for Python. I must confess that most discussions about namespaces etc on this list is way over my head... however could I be on the right track if I were to assume that using "local" in such modules would be a g

Re: Future of PicoLisp?

On 2017-02-23 18:45, Alexander Burger wrote: > I won't use such a repo based system here. Period. Ok, then we have status quo, or if someone steps up and becomes what Alan Cox for many years was to the Linus and the Linux kernel. Basically a maintainer, merging between distributions (users) an

Re: Future of PicoLisp?

https://medium.com/@sitapati/the-impact-github-is-having-on-your-software-career-right-now-6ce536ec0b50#.krwczgbrq > 23 feb. 2017 kl. 07:55 skrev Alexander Burger : > > Thanks to all who contributed to this thread!! I agree with most of what you > said. > > However, we are mixing up three diff

Re: future?

On 2017-02-21 20:18, andr...@itship.ch wrote: > > Online repositories like https://github.com/taij33n/picolisp and > https://bitbucket.org/mmamkin/picolisp are not mere personal forks, but > up to date clones of the official release at > http://software-lab.de/picoLisp.tgz > Both taij33n and mm

Re: Future of PicoLisp?

On 2017-02-20 19:46, Christopher Howard wrote: > The only tradeoffs with savannah nongnu is it sometimes takes them a few > weeks to approve your project hosting, and they require you to put > licensing information on each code file (a really good idea anyway). > No. That is like saying that t

Re: Future of PicoLisp?

I would love for the public repo to be on github! I think for many, an open source project does not really exist, unless it is on Github. We should also try to resurrect somehow, the [picolisp] tag on Stack Overflow. Given that it is encouraged to put in official documentation in the form of Q/

Appimage.org

Could someone check out http://appimage.org ? It seems to gain momentum now and PicoLisp in that format would make it really easy to use. Best regards, Jakob -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: French localization

I will cheer on. Salut! > 24 jan. 2017 kl. 08:18 skrev CILz : > > Hello guys, > > I'd be happy to help on that task. If anyone else want to step up on this > let's join our forces. > > Best, > > EricC > > >> Le 24/01/2017 à 07:49, Alexander Burger a écrit : >> Dear PicoLispers, >> >> is an

Re: back to the future in bench game

This was interesting! Just saw pixielang on HN. > 17 jan. 2017 kl. 22:28 skrev Mike Pechkin : > > Author of http://pixielang.org/ in the city. > Welcome to community > >> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Timothy Baldridge >> wrote: >> > Check link in archive: >> >https://web.archive.org/web/20

Re: Copy A to B, so that no change in A affects B

I like how you give both a rationale (of sorts) against, then a demonstration nevertheless of a deep copy. Very friendly! :) > 5 dec. 2016 kl. 08:43 skrev Alexander Burger : > >> On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 01:44:53AM -0500, Bruno Franco wrote: >> Is there a function that would copy A so that no cha

Re: FreeBSD 11

On 14/10/16 23:03, r...@tamos.net wrote: > On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 22:12 +0200, Jakob Eriksson wrote: >> On 14/10/16 22:01, r...@tamos.net wrote: >>> But picolisp is for experienced programmers[1], a class of people who >>> have no problem building software. >> >&

Re: FreeBSD 11

On 14/10/16 22:01, r...@tamos.net wrote: > > But picolisp is for experienced programmers[1], a class of people who > have no problem building software. Isn't this a bit of a truism. There is nothing in the language itself making it unsuitable for an UN-experienced programmer. Because of vario

Re: task db example

It can apply to docs but a more fitting license might be one if the Creative Commons licenses. CC0 is roughly equivalent to MIT. > 6 sep. 2016 kl. 14:33 skrev Alexander Burger : > > Hi Rowan, > >> How is stuff posted on the wiki copyrighted/licensed? >> Public Domain? GPL? > > Uh, good questio

Re: PicoLisp as Femto extension language

These questions go a bit over my head, but Femto with Pico has a nice ring to it. :-) > 4 sep. 2016 kl. 19:38 skrev Thorsten Jolitz : > > > Hi List, > recently I found out about Femto, a minimal Emacs implementation in less > than 2k lines of C (including ncurses, though): > > , > | git cl

Re: Ubuntu does not update PicoLisp

It would be helpful if we could find out how the build process fails. > 3 sep. 2016 kl. 16:04 skrev Alexander Burger : > > Hi all, > > Ubuntu stopped to update PicoLisp in its distribution. I noticed that > the next Ubuntu release (yakkety) still has only PicoLisp 15.11 !! > > This is rather b

Re: PicoLisp Blog

Good initiative > 30 aug. 2016 kl. 22:41 skrev Anas Drak : > > Basic information on PicoLisp and introductory material: > http://pico-lisp.blogspot.gr/ >

Re: Windows x64 PicoLisp preview

This is really good, thank you. On 17/08/16 14:13, Joe Bogner wrote: > I've been working on a port of PicoLisp 64 to Windows. The port is ready > for an early preview for anyone who wants to try it out > > The goal of the initiative is to allow PicoLisp development on Windows. > This may impro

Re: Best way to learn picolisp

It's more like Common Lisp is a derivative of PicoLisp, seriously. :-) So I'd go for pico first, it's easier to understand. > 8 juni 2016 kl. 14:08 skrev Lawrence Bottorff : > > So, what would the best way to learn picolisp be for a total beginner? It > might seem like you should just bite the

Re: OpenGL and miniPicoLisp

sure that's necessary for > glut (floats)? I have holes in my programming knowledge in general, since I > am self-taught, and have not programmed for a living for the most part. But, > I did start in 1979! > > Rob > > BTW, I am currently in +7 GMT. What time zone are

Re: OpenGL and miniPicoLisp

IMHO it should be trivial to get SDL working with miniPicoLisp. I'd wrap enough of SDL to get a minimal example running and extend it from there. If you put it on GitHub I might help out too! :-) > 24 apr. 2016 kl. 09:50 skrev Robert Herman : > > Well, that answers a lot, thanks. Textures are g

Re: OpenGL and miniPicoLisp

016 at 01:06:46PM +0200, Jakob Eriksson wrote: >> That support is not going to be widely spread until >> a few years down the road. > > Oh, I see :( > > If portability is an issue, and miniPicoLisp is both too limited and > tedious to extend, then Rob should indeed also

Re: OpenGL and miniPicoLisp

That support is not going to be widely spread until a few years down the road. Even so, I expect it (Ubuntu on Windows) to be a downloadable server component rather than standard on all Windows client versions. best regards, Jakob On 23/04/16 12:57, Robert Herman wrote: > Thanks, I'll have a

Re: Spring 2016 Lisp Game Jam

On 22/04/16 10:27, Robert Herman wrote: > > I am really looking to use miniPicoLisp as the game framework, only leaning > on SDL2.0 or CSFML as the engine underneath to deal with keyboard i/o, > event handling, sound, graphics and networking. I guess maybe it's the same > thing? I'd say I meant

Re: Spring 2016 Lisp Game Jam

, and I am going to start on option 1. I > will put it up on Github if I get anywhere next week. Only 7 days and 1 > hour until the LGJ! > > Rob > > PS: I have reposted this, since I left the subject off the last time I > hit Send, and I did not see it on the list. Fo

Re: Spring 2016 Lisp Game Jam

Actually, I find that you can statically link most libraries on Linux and that tends to remove almost all distribution problems. best regards, Jakob On 20/04/16 07:57, Alexander Burger wrote: > Hi Rob, > >> HTML5, JS and family come into the picture when you want to distribute or >> share your

Re: Function browser in Emacs

sweet! :) On 10/04/16 01:43, Henrik Sarvell wrote: > This is a bit off topic but my new function browser does support > Picolisp out of the box :) > > It might come in handy for all Picolispers on Emacs. > > https://bitbucket.org/hsarvell/list-functions > > http://www.prodevtips.com/2016/04/09

Re: Redesigned Wiki is Live

It's good to see the details worked out here. But the main take away for me, is that in today's stylish web landscape, it's important that sites look stylish. And the site now looks stylish. Great and thanks to all involved. best regards, Jakob On 24/03/16 16:34, Erik Gustafson wrote: > Hi Lis

Re: Tractatus Pico-Blaesicus

Hey, I love this Tractatus! Very unbiased and fair. (Even acknowledging 2.4!) On 07/03/16 19:25, Alexander Burger wrote: > Dear PicoLisp List, > > let me announce a strange little piece of [code?, documentation?, > pamphlet?] which I wrote up to summarize some of the positions and > philosoph

Re: Backspace across wrapped line

r 5, 2016 at 9:02 AM, Jakob Eriksson > wrote: > >> A shotgun approach would be to create a screen editor of sorts, >> with a repl in it. That is probably overkill. >> >> >> >> On 05/03/16 16:18, Alexander Burger wrote: >>> Hi all, >>&g

Re: Backspace across wrapped line

A shotgun approach would be to create a screen editor of sorts, with a repl in it. That is probably overkill. On 05/03/16 16:18, Alexander Burger wrote: > Hi all, > > since early versions of PicoLisp I have a problem with the behavior of > terminals. > > It concerns the REPL line editor in deb

Re: a floating point math library for 64 bit PicoLisp

I like it! Back when we needed float, we just used C, but your way is nicer 😀 > 25 jan. 2016 kl. 06:12 skrev Alexander Williams : > > Hi Greg, > > This is quite impressive, particularly for a first time Lisper. Great job! > > I haven't tested it, but the code looks good. Thanks for the contribu

Re: PilMCU is dead - Long live PilOS!

Thank you! On 19/06/15 22:16, Alexander Burger wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm happy to announce PilOS - The PicoLisp Operating System! > > It is a modification of the infamous PilMCU, which unfortunately doesn't > seem to get off the ground. So in order not to have wasted all that > effort, I decided

Re: PicoLisp now detected on GitHub

This is great! On 17/06/15 17:48, Christophe Gragnic wrote: > Hi list. > > They even spelled it correctly ! > https://github.com/github/linguist/pull/2449#issuecomment-112829159 > See one of your repos or this one: > https://github.com/Microalg/Microalg > > chri > -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolis

Re: Test - Please ignore

It was s hard to resist and now I can't. On 01/06/15 21:52, Rick Hanson wrote: > On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:51 AM, Alexander Burger wrote: >> This is a test mail. Please ignore. > I feel like being a contrarian today. :) -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: 4clojure tasks in PicoLisp

What tasks?, what even is this? :) On April 29, 2015 at 10:57 AM Mike Pechkin wrote: > hi, > > With backbone support from Mr.Burger all tasks were implemented. > Sources in bitbucket here: http://goo.gl/fhymP8 > > Notes: > o) favourite - #52 Intro to Destructuring (easy.l) > o) the most inter

Re: MySQL native C wrapper

Good initiative - the more ways to connect, the better, IMHO. On 26/04/15 23:00, Henrik Sarvell wrote: > Hi list, I'm announcing this at a very early stage, earlier than I > would like to, in case someone else is also thinking about doing a > MySQL wrapper, to avoid duplicate work. > > I'm not d

Re: New article - Installing local wiki with Kerberos authentication

Interesting. Is the server a Windows server or Linux? On 14/04/15 14:19, Mansur Mamkin wrote: > Hi all! > I'm happy to announce a litle article: > Installing local wiki with Kerberos authentication > > http://picolisp.com/wiki/?localwikikerberos > > Best regards, > Mansur Mamkin -- UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Building picolisp on (some) BSDs

Excellent work! On March 25, 2015 4:18:15 PM CET, Rick Hanson wrote: >Hello, list! > >I thought I should write a few words on some information I’ve gleaned >trying to build picolisp on some of the BSDs. There are people on this >list >with more experience than I with both BSD and picolisp; so pl

Re: Sorry, no repo (Was: Google Code closing)

Fair enough! Whatever works best for you is for the best. On March 17, 2015 7:34:09 AM CET, Alexander Burger wrote: >Hi Jon, hi all! > >I'm very sorry, but from now on I won't support any repo for PicoLisp. > > >As ever, the most up-to-date version can be downloaded from > > http://softwa

Re: Google Code closing

And github.com has like, what, 1000 times more developers. :-) On March 13, 2015 4:32:05 PM CET, Alexander Williams wrote: >Everyone's comments are valid, but we need to remember: > >For PicoLisp's user base to grow, lowering barriers to entry should be >the >first priority. > > >On Fri, Mar

Re: Google Code closing

Github.com is more than a repo, it's a community of developers. On March 13, 2015 12:56:32 PM CET, Alexander Burger wrote: >Hi all, > >Alea iacta est :) > >Mike Pechkin has set up a repo at bitbucket. More next week. > >♪♫ Alex >-- >UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscr

Re: Google Code closing

Github.com is really nice. On March 13, 2015 9:02:10 AM CET, Jon Kleiser wrote: >Hi, > >It looks like PicoLisp will have to move from Google Code: > > >Maybe GitHub could be a good alt

Re: Announce: 7fach BlitzMenu

Congratulations! On March 12, 2015 7:29:02 PM CET, Alexander Burger wrote: >Hello list, > >let me announce 7fach BlitzMenu, our first attempt for a public >application since 9 years :) > >It is for gastronomers, restaurants or canteens, to maintain their >dishes and beverages in a database, an

PicoLisp on machines with more than 32 gigabyte of RAM?

http://www.infoq.com/news/2015/03/petabyte-jvms?utm_source=hacker%20news&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=petabyte%20news They describe a machine with NUMA, and basically run a handful of JVMs, each confined to a NUMA region. Then synchronize with a huge disk cluster. I wonder how PicoLisp would fare

Re: Yet another JSON lib, and a tutorial

Hey, cool. Now you lured me into reading about nanomsg. :-) On March 10, 2015 2:53:58 PM CET, Alexander Williams wrote: >Hi list, > >I've written yet another JSON encoder/decoder for PicoLisp. I know, >they >already exist.. > >This library is using a native C library for JSON parsing, so it'

Re: Solaris 10 picolisp 64 build

.sunOs.tgz`) I hereby turn in any computing creds I've garnered over >>> the years to be thrown into burning inferno where they belong, and I'll go >>> live in a box down my the river. :) Thanks! >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Jakob Eriksson

Re: Solaris 10 picolisp 64 build

You are not by any chance on a Sparc platform? On 03/03/15 20:57, Rick Hanson wrote: > Sorry in advance if you’ve already covered this issue in the past. > > I’m on Solaris 10; I can build the 32-bit picolisp (3.1.9) with no problem. > Then, I go do a (cd src64; make) (which is GNU make btw);

Re: A PicoLisp native library tutorial

Yep. Definitely interesting. On 03/03/15 18:50, Joe Bogner wrote: > Nicely done. Thanks for sharing > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Henrik Sarvell wrote: > >> Nice! >> >> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Alexander Williams >> wrote: >>> Hi list, >>> >>> Some of you might know me from IRC

Re: modules?

Even if that were so, couldn't we fix this with a convention in the module loader? That is, the loader concatenates all files into one upon loading. Is this crazy talk? On February 10, 2015 9:47:54 AM CET, andr...@itship.ch wrote: >Hi Lawrence > >Nice you're taking part here! >You're basical

Re: modules?

Could we cook up a convention? On February 9, 2015 6:12:17 PM CET, Henrik Sarvell wrote: >Hi Lawrence, if you're talking about something like Ruby's gems, then >no. > >On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Lawrence Bottorff >wrote: > >> I'm wondering what you offer in lieu of modules (as with, say, >

Re: Java Interoperability - Why bother with Clojure?

On 02/02/15 15:50, Alexander Burger wrote: > Hi Jakob, > >> Which makes me wonder about Ersatz PicoLisp though. >> How would it stand against other JVM alternatives? I know that Ersatz is >> not as >> fast as native PicoLisp. But for instance Groovy, is really slow on the JVM. >> Maybe Ersatz woul

Re: Java Interoperability - Why bother with Clojure?

Interesting development you have there, connecting the JVM to PicoLisp proper. Which makes me wonder about Ersatz PicoLisp though. How would it stand against other JVM alternatives? I know that Ersatz is not as fast as native PicoLisp. But for instance Groovy, is really slow on the JVM. Maybe Ersa

Re: A Minimal PicoLisp DB/GUI Application

It's a really good example. On January 12, 2015 8:34:08 AM CET, Alexander Burger wrote: >Hi all, > >perhaps this is useful: > > A Minimal PicoLisp DB/GUI Application > > http://picolisp.com/wiki/?minDbGui > >♪♫ Alex >-- >UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe --

Re: Merry Christmas!

Merry Christmas to you too :-) On December 24, 2014 9:37:30 AM CET, Mattias Sundblad wrote: >Hi, > >I'd like to wish everyone on the list a merry christmas and a happy new >year. Learning Picolisp is a great and fun challenge for me at least >and >I'm looking forward to continuing the journey.

Re: Minor diff between 32-bit and Ersatz re. "redefined"

On December 11, 2014 at 3:39 PM Alexander Burger wrote: > Hi Jon, > > > (dm T (X Y) (=: x X) (=: y Y)) > > and then repeat the last line, then Ersatz will say "# T +Shape > > redefined", but 32-bit PicoLisp will give no such "redefined" warning. It > > may not matter very much, I just wanted to

Re: pilMCU progress (slowed)

On November 25, 2014 at 11:19 AM Kuba Tyszko wrote: > is this actually the whole picolisp converted somehow to a dedicated CPU > running on FPGA, or is that an actual CPU emulated (say some kind of ARM), > and picolisp compiled for that CPU ? It is a new CPU. > > I'm just trying to have a se

Re: Strange PicoLisp site

On October 27, 2014 at 10:20 AM Alexander Burger wrote: > Hi Jakob, > > our mails just crossed ;-) > > > "someone" registered that domain for PicoLisp, then did not renew the fee. > > Yes, javuchi messed it up somehow, but it may not be only his fault. It > seems to be possible that domains are

Re: Strange PicoLisp site

"someone" registered that domain for PicoLisp, then did not renew the fee. When it was expired, the domain was snatched (like most expired domains are) by one of these companies which do nothing else but buy expired domains and resell them. The boilerplate text is just random junk to keep the pag

Re: The many uses of PilMCU

I don't understand the leftmost column with the dollars. On 2014-10-13 22:38, Heow Goodman wrote: I've started a wiki document: http://picolisp.com/wiki/?pilMCU Will flesh it out over the next few days. - h On 2014-10-7, 4:36 PM, Christophe Gragnic wrote: Hi list ! This thread is mean

Re: pilMCU progress

Great news :-) On October 12, 2014 4:23:07 AM CEST, gpor...@yahoo.com wrote: >Hi List! > > >Just want to share another finished module: ttyIn is working well with >ttyOut now 😊 > >Will proceed to EEPROM so that we can load the ROM image for pilMCU >bytecodes 😉 > > >Keep you all posted cheers! >

Re: The many uses of PilMCU

I would want to use pilmcu for realtime applications, with no ram cache, just RAM. It would be really easy to allocate time slots and calculate an upper bound for how long a function could run. --jakob -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe

Re: MiniPicoLisp Code in ROM

Great to read on pilmcu and other updates! On October 8, 2014 at 8:23 AM Alexander Burger wrote: > > But I feel that it doesn't make sense except for miniPicoLisp. By doing > so, you save a few hundred kilobytes in RAM at most, but get the > disadvantages of a less flexible runtime environment.

Re: MiniPicoLisp Code in ROM

Great news On October 7, 2014 8:27:45 AM CEST, Alexander Burger wrote: >Hi all, > >definitions in miniPicoLisp can now be put into ROM space. This helps >to >save precious RAM on embedded systems. > >I've put an article about how to do this into the Wiki: > > http://picolisp.com/wiki/?miniCod

Re: Picolisp Specific Training

Maybe Alex could for a price? On September 25, 2014 5:54:02 PM CEST, jerome moliere wrote: >Hi all, >I think that everything is in the title... >Do you know if someone supplies such training ? >Kind regards > >-- >J.MOLIERE - Mentor/J -- Skickat från min Android-telefon med K-9 E-post. Ursäk

Re: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

On September 19, 2014 at 7:32 PM Thorsten Jolitz wrote: > "Loyall, David" > writes: > > > The Internet would like to run this locally. Would you post the > > verilog source and build files? Or a link to a repository? > > I think this has the potential to make a very nice and successfull > kic

PicoLisp on Raspi

On September 19, 2014 at 3:18 PM Joe Bogner wrote: > This might be off base, but is it within the realm of possibility to > run PilMCU on a raspberry pi now or in the future? That's an accessible > piece of hardware that many people already have (myself included). These > people may also be will

Re: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

On September 19, 2014 at 3:05 PM Alexander Burger wrote: > Hi Alabhya, > > > Funds should flow in when "picoLisp OS" is seen running with all > > virtues, on existing hardware. > > Hmm, but this is a bit against the point, isn't it? This *is* a hardware > project. On existing hardware you may be

Re: Announce: PicoLisp in Hardware (PilMCU)

Fantastic, this is truly great. I have been hoping for years someone would pull this off. Congratulations. best regards, Jakob On September 19, 2014 at 1:39 PM Alexander Burger wrote: > Hello List, > > we are proud to announce PilMCU, the Lisp Machine on a Chip! :) > > We, that is George Orai

Re: try picolisp

Maybe not with Emscripten. On August 28, 2014 7:41:12 PM CEST, Mike Pechkin wrote: >hi, > >Is it hard to implement minimalist version of minipicolisp in browser ? >Like http://tryclj.com/ ? > >Mike -- Skickat från min Android-telefon med K-9 E-post. Ursäkta min fåordighet.

Re: Pico/Ersatz diffs: chain, link, yoke

You would be mad to use Erzats for performance anyway, so I'd wish for correctness or similarity. It would also serve as a documentation of what it takes to implement a full PicoLisp. Sort of a portable spec. On June 25, 2014 4:45:12 PM CEST, Alexander Burger wrote: >Hi Jon, > >> If you in nor

Re: Regarding the implementations of PicoLisp

Sorry for ranting the list again but... On 2014-05-14 19:17, andr...@itship.ch wrote: > true, but then the leaking memory wouldn't have been restricted on > critical data like private keys and password traffic. so more probing > would have been necessary to gain exploitable data. which of course i

Re: Regarding the implementations of PicoLisp

Yes, but it would help if the allocator cleared returned memory if I recall correctly. On May 14, 2014 6:40:59 PM CEST, Alexander Burger wrote: >Hi Jakob, > >> Veering off topic here ... >> ... >> > The heartbleed bug wouldn't have had such a devastating effect if >they >> > wouldn't have imple

Re: Regarding the implementations of PicoLisp

On May 14, 2014 at 4:03 PM andr...@itship.ch wrote: > > PicoLisp can and might be used to implement security applications. Of course. > So better use standard proved OS mechanisms and have some more initial > effort to get it running, I think. The standard proved OS mechanism are all different

Re: Regarding the implementations of PicoLisp

Heartbleed vs custom memory allocator is a false dichotomy. The problem with OpenSSL was a bad development model. A security library should have a development model focusing on security. Security is a process and taking responsibility for design decisions and committing to them, not letting thin

Re: Regarding the implementations of PicoLisp

And this is an excellent example of PicoLisp going the extra mile. Instead of handling C as the lowest abstraction, going to the actual machine. I imagine other interpreted languages could be faster if designed with this attention to detail. On 12 maj 2014 08:24:13 CEST, Alexander Burger wrot

Re: Would a logging framework make sense for PicoLisp

If it is derivative, you should ask. On April 11, 2014 7:07:25 PM CEST, Henrik Sarvell wrote: >I feel like I have changed the original now to such an extent that I >don't >have to ask anymore :-) It feels like a derivative work. > >However, attribution is kept in the source: >https://bitbucket.o

Re: Programming can be futuristic

Well, if PicoLisp was ported to http://zerovm.org/wiki/The_Cloud_Hypervisor then we'd definitely be there. Thing is, I think it might be a good fit! On 2013-10-24 06:23, Henrik Sarvell wrote: > This guy has obviously not discovered PicoLisp yet :-) > > http://www.ianbicking.org/blog/2013/10/wh

Re: A few quick emu/pil timings

Bikeshedding! Debian. Henrik Sarvell skrev: >If VM can't be avoided isn't Gentoo more minimal than Arch? > >http://www.gentoo.org/ > > >On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Thorsten Jolitz wrote: >> Mansur Mamkin writes: >> >>> in case of Windows don't forget to look at coLinux and andLinux: >> >

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