these are some symptoms:
1) often playback stops when one song completes. of course, there are
more in the playlist. i have to kick start it.
2) several times, i could hear a split-second blip of the next song and
then, nothing.
3) earlier in the day, a restart of LMS made this behavior go
I seem to recall that in the fairly recent past there was an issue with
the "muslhf" helper when used on the Raspberry Pi. This was resolved by
changing to the "hf" helper. I noticed today that my touch and one of my
radios were not listed as connect devices so I tried changing back to
the
no6mis wrote:
> Hi,
>
> today the triode plugin stopped working. So I installed the new spotty
> plugin to get spotify back to work.
>
> But unfortunately the helper app won't run:
>
> >
Code:
> >
Thank you! As I'm stuck with LMS 7.9.0 (7.9.1 won't start) I think it is
better to migrate my LMS to a new RPi3 with recent libc. I don't dare to
touch my system as I'm pretty sure it will impact some other services.
Would be interesting to compare eg. scanning performance, or web UI
rendering
mherger wrote:
> I think it's the libc which is outdated, not the CPU. Any way to update
> the system? Or temporarily run a different Linux version from a live CD
> to check compatibility with those spotty binaries?
>
> Or if you're adventurous: you could try to build it yourself. You'd need
>
no6mis wrote:
> ldd (Debian EGLIBC 2.13-38+deb7u8) 2.13
I think it's the libc which is outdated, not the CPU. Any way to update
the system? Or temporarily run a different Linux version from a live CD
to check compatibility with those spotty binaries?
Or if you're adventurous: you could try to
mherger wrote:
> > Which ports does Connect use on the local network. Maybe I'll try to
> > open those explicitly?
>
> TBH: I don't know... but some googling makes me think it could be 4070.
>
> --
>
> Michael
Hi, just an update: I specifically let the spotty helper app through the
What are the advantages of setting it up as a service? And how do I do
that if I'm already running it as a service?
Could you please take this to another thread? Thanks!
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bakker_be wrote:
> Back when I still used LMS on Windows, I always set it up as a service.
> This can easily be achieved from the tray icon control, and keeps all
> other functionailty intact.
What are the advantages of setting it up as a service? And how do I do
that if I'm already running it
paul- wrote:
> That's all perfectly normal for a pi3, my green lights flash too, and
> they are just players. By default, the green light is showing activity
> on the microsd port.. but it is just activitynot necessarily a
> read or a write. I think most of what you are seeing is the
That's all perfectly normal for a pi3, my green lights flash too, and
they are just players. By default, the green light is showing activity
on the microsd port.. but it is just activitynot necessarily a
read or a write. I think most of what you are seeing is the firmware
checking if
paul- wrote:
> Which pi do you have? The Red light should be on solid. A flashing
> red light is normally indications of a power supply problem. If you
> are running pCP 3.5.0 you can go to the diagnostics page and look at the
> dmesg output. See if there are voltage error messages.
bakker_be wrote:
> Back when I still used LMS on Windows, I always set it up as a service.
> This can easily be achieved from the tray icon control, and keeps all
> other functionailty intact.
Thanks. I just wrote a small Java application to invoke the rest api and
do what I wanted. Created a
danmalks wrote:
> Thanks very much, appreciate the thorough response.
>
> I'll give this a try, but my first obstacle is that I do not see lms
> running as a service, when I check the task manager "Services" tab (even
> in 'more details').
> I do have the lms running and I do see it in the
mherger wrote:
> > The first log file shows the log entries up to the "hang".
> > The second log file shows the entries up to and after the hang, when
> I
> > work around the "hang" by turning the power to the squeezebox classic
> > off and on again using the web control page and then access a
Which ports does Connect use on the local network. Maybe I'll try to
open those explicitly?
TBH: I don't know... but some googling makes me think it could be 4070.
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Thanks for your reply!
mherger wrote:
>
> And all the clients are connected to the same network? You're not
> running multiple sub-networks or the like? And the mobile clients aren't
>
> on the cell network?
I do have an extender, through which 2 of the players are connected, but
at least
Problem: Spotify Connect players not visible on local network.
And all the clients are connected to the same network? You're not
running multiple sub-networks or the like? And the mobile clients aren't
on the cell network? Did you try the Windows Spotify application from
the same computer as
Hi, it's me again, with more details
Setup: LMS nightly 7.9.2 (15/6), Spotty 2.3.7 on Windows Server 2012R2
with four players on the network.
Problem: Spotify Connect players not visible on local network. LMS web
interface and Spotify apps when logged into main user's account work
fine. "Don't
mherger wrote:
> >> Did you try using a Spotify application on your computer or some
> mobile
> >> device?
> >
> > Desktop & mobile and the password it"s for both
>
> That's not what I was referring to: did you try to authorize Spotty
> using your mobile app?
>
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> Michael
Ok it's
bakker_be wrote:
> Hi Dan,
> actually Windows should take care of that for you, though it's of course
> possible to do this check through some kind of command line batch. Copy
> paste the following code into notepad and save it as
> CHECK_RESTART_LMS.BAT somewhere you can remember.
> >
Code:
danmalks wrote:
> Thanks. You seem familiar with windows. Do you know what the recommended
> approach would be to do the following:
> a) check if lms is running
> b) if not, start it, then stop it (you've already provided a suggestion
> for the start/stop tasks)
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
Hi Dan,
mherger wrote:
> > Thanks Michael. Which is the specific error msg you're saying that is
> a
> > sign of something not working. I'll try to track down where that's
> > coming from.
>
> Don't remember the message. But it's about 98% of all log entries. You
> can't miss it :-)
>
> --
>
>
Thanks Michael. Which is the specific error msg you're saying that is a
sign of something not working. I'll try to track down where that's
coming from.
Don't remember the message. But it's about 98% of all log entries. You
can't miss it :-)
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bakker_be wrote:
> From a windows command prompt (Windows key + r, type "cmd" without
> parentheses, enter) type first "net stop logitechmediaserver", then "net
> start logitechmediaserver". Assuming you've installed your LMS as a
> service on your WIndows box, that'll first stop it and then
Did you try using a Spotify application on your computer or some mobile
device?
Desktop & mobile and the password it"s for both
That's not what I was referring to: did you try to authorize Spotty
using your mobile app?
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danmalks wrote:
> Thanks Michael. Which is the specific error msg you're saying that is a
> sign of something not working. I'll try to track down where that's
> coming from.
>
> Also, I'd like to try a test here and wondering if you have a simple
> sample app you can point me to (that'll run
mherger wrote:
> > The first log file shows the log entries up to the "hang".
> > The second log file shows the entries up to and after the hang, when
> I
> > work around the "hang" by turning the power to the squeezebox classic
> > off and on again using the web control page and then access a
mherger wrote:
> > Maybe i speak more speeder :D
> > the plugin is installed but I can't connect with my login / pwd ( i
> > testing in spotify app on my desktop and it's ok )
>
> Did you try using a Spotify application on your computer or some mobile
>
> device?
>
> --
>
> Michael
Maybe i speak more speeder :D
the plugin is installed but I can't connect with my login / pwd ( i
testing in spotify app on my desktop and it's ok )
Did you try using a Spotify application on your computer or some mobile
device?
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The first log file shows the log entries up to the "hang".
The second log file shows the entries up to and after the hang, when I
work around the "hang" by turning the power to the squeezebox classic
off and on again using the web control page and then access a playlist
and play a song.
jordan_ wrote:
> Michael !
> I don't know why but it's working ! :D
> Thank you !
Maybe i speak more speeder :D
the plugin is installed but I can't connect with my login / pwd ( i
testing in spotify app on my desktop and it's ok )
Thx for your help
mherger wrote:
> > Should I private message you the log file (it has accesstoken info,
> etc)
> > or post it here.
>
> use my inbox: https://www.dropbox.com/request/T3RctyzGgNg0oFDubq6a
>
> > Plugins::Spotty::Connect::DaemonManager::initHelpers (70)
> Initializing
> > Spotty Connect helper
Should I private message you the log file (it has accesstoken info, etc)
or post it here.
use my inbox: https://www.dropbox.com/request/T3RctyzGgNg0oFDubq6a
Plugins::Spotty::Connect::DaemonManager::initHelpers (70) Initializing
Spotty Connect helper daemons...
[18-06-13 14:58:53.0008]
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mherger wrote:
> > Is there logging before and after each call to the Spotify API that I
> > can check?
>
> plugin.spotty=debug - but I think you did this before, didn't you? It
> would be very verbose when doing API calls, like eg. logging all data
> received etc. But as long as it's
mherger wrote:
> > I waited more than 20 sec before restarting :( LMS don't have a log
> to
> > see what's happening ?
> Enable debug logging for plugin.extensions and server.plugins, then try
>
> again. Once you've restarted, upload your server.log.zip.
>
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> Michael
Michael
Is there logging before and after each call to the Spotify API that I
can check?
plugin.spotty=debug - but I think you did this before, didn't you? It
would be very verbose when doing API calls, like eg. logging all data
received etc. But as long as it's hanging, there wouldn't be much :-)
I waited more than 20 sec before restarting :( LMS don't have a log to
see what's happening ?
Enable debug logging for plugin.extensions and server.plugins, then try
again. Once you've restarted, upload your server.log.zip.
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jordan_ wrote:
> I waited more than 20 sec before restarting :( LMS don't have a log to
> see what's happening ?
I just try a test now
I have clicked to the plugin > installation in progress > Restart >
waiting few min > the plugin is not active & is not available in 3rd
Pary plugin
mherger wrote:
> > The windows machine is a desktop machine that is always on and given
> > that we've narrowed it down to something likely about the "the expiry
> > time of the token", wonder if we can put in place something to do
> some
> > further diagnosis.
>
> We haven't narrowed it down
mherger wrote:
> > When I click to install the plugin I waiting for installation , LMS
> want
> > to reboot i say yes and ... nothing he don't want to install the
> plugin
> > the reason why i looking for the log installation plugin to send the
> > error
>
> Make sure you give it some time
When I click to install the plugin I waiting for installation , LMS want
to reboot i say yes and ... nothing he don't want to install the plugin
the reason why i looking for the log installation plugin to send the
error
Make sure you give it some time before restarting. In older LMS versions
mherger wrote:
> > Architecture de la plate-forme : armle-linux
> > Version de Perl : 5.24.0 - armle-linux
>
> armle should work. This answers one of my questions. What about the
> second one? How does the installation fail?
>
> --
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> Michael
When I click to install the plugin I waiting
Architecture de la plate-forme : armle-linux
Version de Perl : 5.24.0 - armle-linux
armle should work. This answers one of my questions. What about the
second one? How does the installation fail?
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mherger wrote:
> > Hello everyone, I currently have LMS installed on a Synology NAS in
> > 7.9.2 and I can not install the Spotty plugin.
>
> What NAS model? Some of them, those running a PowerPC CPU, are not
> supported.
>
> How does installation fail?
>
> --
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> Michael
Hello Michael
NeverSimple wrote:
> I'll quote Michael from this thread:
> https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?108561-Announce-Spotty-2-0-0-Spotify-Connect-for-your-Squeezebox=908830=1#post908830
Thank you, this is what I suspected, but knowing for sure will certainly
make me sleep better.
The windows machine is a desktop machine that is always on and given
that we've narrowed it down to something likely about the "the expiry
time of the token", wonder if we can put in place something to do some
further diagnosis.
We haven't narrowed it down to this. I only expressed my thought
kadimm wrote:
> Hi Michael, first of all I'd like to thank you for your great work, I
> have Spotty running with no problems so far!
>
> I have one question, although I'm not sure if it's relevant. I have only
> one squeezelite client running in the setup and I expected to see single
>
mherger wrote:
> > Is there any diagnostic we could put in place/try to better
> understand
> > if something funky is going on after expiry/timeout? I'm happy to put
> in
> > the time to test, if you have an idea.
>
> That's the problem: I'm running out of ideas...
>
> Would you have another
mherger wrote:
> > I run Spotty 2.3.7/LMS 7.9.2 on Windows 2012R2. I have two Spotify
> user
> > accounts connected to Spotty, both part of the same family plan. The
> > libraries for both the users are visible ok and set to have separate
> > submenus.
> >
> > However, Spotify Connect only
Is there any diagnostic we could put in place/try to better understand
if something funky is going on after expiry/timeout? I'm happy to put in
the time to test, if you have an idea.
That's the problem: I'm running out of ideas...
Would you have another computer on which you could try to
Hello everyone, I currently have LMS installed on a Synology NAS in
7.9.2 and I can not install the Spotty plugin.
What NAS model? Some of them, those running a PowerPC CPU, are not
supported.
How does installation fail?
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danmalks wrote:
> Thanks Michael. Agreed about the expiry timeout theory.
> I only have one player running (the classic squeezebox), what about that
> error makes you ask that question and are there other things I should
> check to make sure there's not a soft player or something else running
Hello everyone, I currently have LMS installed on a Synology NAS in
7.9.2 and I can not install the Spotty plugin.
I'm trying to understand why and I can not find where the logs are in
order to debug. Can you help me ?
If you want information need not hesitate
Regards
/Jordan
mherger wrote:
> The biggest difference certainly is Windows vs. Linux/macOS on my end.
> But there are enough Windows users who run Spotty without any problem.
>
> That 1h thing sounds like the expiry time of the token expiration
> duration... but then I don't see any recent error message
Here is my htop screenshot:
https://monosnap.com/file/YPTEsS0C5wJUysjZE5CMG2wJJkn8Uo
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danmalks wrote:
> I wonder why the issue doesn't re-appear for about an hour. In other
> words, if I do the workaround (to get it working) then turn off the
> squeezebox and turn it back on after few mins, it just works...so the
> issue only returns again after some wait time (approx an
mherger wrote:
> > Results from Command in WinSCP:
>
> That's looking good. And I'm definitely running out of ideas :-(
>
> --
>
> Michael
Michael, I can report that Spotty is now working. I do not know exactly
what made the difference but I accept it was in my network. It makes no
sense
danmalks wrote:
> I use AVG free, any thoughts there?
> By alternative authN, I mean not using username/pw, but instead using
> the method where you open another client on the same machine and
> login...couldn't get that to work bc I didn't see the "Spotty" option in
> the other client when
I run Spotty 2.3.7/LMS 7.9.2 on Windows 2012R2. I have two Spotify user
accounts connected to Spotty, both part of the same family plan. The
libraries for both the users are visible ok and set to have separate
submenus.
However, Spotify Connect only sees the LMS players if the Spotify add is
Hi,
I run Spotty 2.3.7/LMS 7.9.2 on Windows 2012R2. I have two Spotify user
accounts connected to Spotty, both part of the same family plan. The
libraries for both the users are visible ok and set to have separate
submenus.
However, Spotify Connect only sees the LMS players if the Spotify add
What about something related to the hardware...firmware version or
anything else we can look at to consider differences between my env and
yours?
Are you using any kind of proxy? Antivirus software trying to filter
traffic on the host? Firewall blocking?
Also, any way we could try to get
mherger wrote:
> > Files posted to your dropbox.
>
> What shall I say... it just works. Got a list of 500 playlists on the
> first attempt. Tried both with 7.9.2 and 7.7.7 (which is identical with
>
> the 7.7.6 release, except for the version number). Squeezeplay and
> Squeezebox Classic.
>
Files posted to your dropbox.
What shall I say... it just works. Got a list of 500 playlists on the
first attempt. Tried both with 7.9.2 and 7.7.7 (which is identical with
the 7.7.6 release, except for the version number). Squeezeplay and
Squeezebox Classic.
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danmalks wrote:
> Files posted to your dropbox.
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
Also, in case this is helpful, I see this added today to the previously
posted server log:
[18-06-08 10:19:43.7109] Plugins::Spotty::Plugin::purgeAudioCache (470)
Starting audio cache cleanup...
[18-06-08 10:19:43.7178]
Yes, both assumptions are correct. Is the credentials.json and client_id
files okay to share here or should I private message you.
Also, need to go find them now, as I'm not sure where they are located.
Check Settings/Information for both cache and prefs folder.
credentials.json would be in a
mherger wrote:
> Would you mind sharing your credentials.json and client_id with me? I
> assume that you a) are using your own client_id and b) have a huge
> amount of playlists. Is that right?
Yes, both assumptions are correct. Is the credentials.json and client_id
files okay to share here or
danmalks wrote:
> Was able to reproduce the issue and have attached two zip file with two
> log files.
Would you mind sharing your credentials.json and client_id with me? I
assume that you a) are using your own client_id and b) have a huge
amount of playlists. Is that right?
Michael
mherger wrote:
> > I've attached the log file, zipped.
> > All other behavior is as expected. Appreciate your thoughts or
> > suggestion for next steps.
>
> Hmm... there's a warning you get every few seconds - and have been
> receiving for almost a year. Are you using any kind of firewall or
DavidBulluss wrote:
> I will do that now and send results as soon as I can. Until then, I only
> use the Pi for LMS. At the moment I am not playing music on LMS and my
> SBTs are turned off, so effectively the Pi is idle. Just looking at it,
> one of the red lights on it is flashing yellow
"oddly" is for sure.
just now, Android Spotify showed the device at the bottom bar as the
active device.
as stated, it normally does not do this.
per your comment, i tried a complete re-install and there's no device at
the bottom bar,
just in the settings...
what is pCP?
i now do the "shutdown"
Android Spotify app does show the device if i dive into the
settings/devices;
Hmm... there's an increasing number of reports where the Android app
would behave oddly. As I mentioned earlier today some users reported
deleting/re-installing it would make it work again. Can't tell, as I
don't
mherger wrote:
> > strange thing is that Android Spotify app rarely shows its own;
> luckily
> > i rarely use the app.
> > my own app which makes spotify web api always gets the device.
> > Windows Spotify app shows the device however, so i'm not sure what is
> up
> > (or down) with android
mherger wrote:
> > Results from Command in WinSCP:
>
> That's looking good. And I'm definitely running out of ideas :-(
>
> --
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> Michael
The flashing LED on the Pi when it is idle is worrying me. More checking
shows it is flashing green about every second. It is labelled ACT. Same
if
Results from Command in WinSCP:
That's looking good. And I'm definitely running out of ideas :-(
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mherger wrote:
>
> could you please send me the output of "ifconfig" on that pCP box?
>
> --
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> Michael
Results from Command in WinSCP:
/home/tc$ ifconfig
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr B8:27:EB:5C:F8:D0
inet addr:192.168.1.11 Bcast:192.168.1.255
Mask:255.255.255.0
UP
mherger wrote:
>
>
> could you please send me the output of "ifconfig" on that pCP box?
>
> --
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> Michael
I will do that now and send results as soon as I can. Until then, I only
use the Pi for LMS. At the moment I am not playing music on LMS and my
SBTs are turned off, so effectively
Both the Pi and the PC that I tested Spotty on yesterday are located
side by side and are connected by LAD cables directly into the same
modem/router and straight into the broadband internet from there. Other
could you please send me the output of "ifconfig" on that pCP box?
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mherger wrote:
> > Could there be some network component
> filtering traffic between your Pi and the internet, but not between your
>
> desktop and the internet?
>
> --
>
> Michael
Both the Pi and the PC that I tested Spotty on yesterday are located
side by side and are connected by LAD
Set to DHCP and restarted. Found the pCP on the network. Restarted LMS
again. Checked Spotty credential - all ok. Spotty still not working.
Unable to access my library at Spotify or search. I do not have any
players ticked at SPOTIFY CONNECT in settings, is that ok?
You don't need Connect
strange thing is that Android Spotify app rarely shows its own; luckily
i rarely use the app.
my own app which makes spotify web api always gets the device.
Windows Spotify app shows the device however, so i'm not sure what is up
(or down) with android version.
I mentioned this before: there
I've attached the log file, zipped.
All other behavior is as expected. Appreciate your thoughts or
suggestion for next steps.
Hmm... there's a warning you get every few seconds - and have been
receiving for almost a year. Are you using any kind of firewall or
antivirus product on your
paul- wrote:
> Are you sure the network is resolving names properly?What DNS server
> is being given to the pCP device?
>
> Just open a putty session and type this.
>
> nslookup api.spotify.com
Cut & paste from command screen in WinSCP
*/home/tc$ nslookup api.spotify.com
Server:
Are you sure the network is resolving names properly?What DNS server
is being given to the pCP device?
Just open a putty session and type this.
nslookup api.spotify.com
piCorePlayer a small player for the Raspberry Pi in RAM.
Homepage: https://sites.google.com/site/picoreplayer/home
mherger wrote:
> >
>
> Just for the sake of it: try to set this to DHCP for another test.
>
> --
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> Michael
Set to DHCP and restarted. Found the pCP on the network. Restarted LMS
again. Checked Spotty credential - all ok. Spotty still not working.
Unable to access my library at Spotify
mherger wrote:
> Could you please provide the full server.log file? Is all of the other
> functionality still working as expected?
I've attached the log file, zipped.
All other behavior is as expected. Appreciate your thoughts or
suggestion for next steps.
Thanks,
Dan
mherger wrote:
> > well, i normally switch off the main strip. what is a proper
> shutdown?
>
> don't know about max2play specifics, but you have to tell the software
> to shut down properly before pulling the plug.
>
> > by the way, where would i look for system log to see what crashed?
>
There is nothing particular that I know of. The Pi3 is connected
directly to my modem/router via LAN cable, same as my PC. I am using a
staric IP for the Pi3.
Just for the sake of it: try to set this to DHCP for another test.
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DavidBulluss wrote:
> There is nothing particular that I know of. The Pi3 is connected
> directly to my modem/router via LAN cable, same as my PC. I am using a
> static IP for the Pi3. Nothing has changed in the network since Spotty
> was last working. All other devices connected to the
mherger wrote:
> >
>
> Is there anything particular about your pCP's network configuration?
>
> --
>
> Michael
There is nothing particular that I know of. The Pi3 is connected
directly to my modem/router via LAN cable, same as my PC. I am using a
staric IP for the Pi3. Nothing has changed
Michael, Spotty installed in LMS 7.9.2 on PC (windows 10) works
perfectly, searches with results etc.
...and your credentials file does work perfectly fine on my pCP 3.5
installation.
Is there anything particular about your pCP's network configuration?
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DavidBulluss wrote:
> Sure do... do I need to install LMS on it?
Michael, Spotty installed in LMS 7.9.2 on PC (windows 10) works
perfectly, searches with results etc.
David
*Server*pi3 pCP3.5.0 LMS7.9.2
*Media*ReadyNAS DuoV2
*Lounge/dining areas*SBT > Denon AVR2113 > Bose Acoustimass10 /
mherger wrote:
> >
>
> But you certainly have a desktop/notebook?
>
> --
>
> Michael
Sure do... do I need to install LMS on it?
*Server*pi3 pCP3.5.0 LMS7.9.2
*Media*ReadyNAS DuoV2
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I still have the ReadyNAS Duo on standby with LMS installed. It is ARM.
Without trawling through the threads, will spotty work with it? Any
special requirements? Then I can give it a go.
Unfortunately no, I never got it to work on that unit (it's what I used
for LMS in my office). It's libc is
mherger wrote:
> > Reverting to pCP 3.2.2 didn't fix it. Am now back with pCP 3.5.0.
>
> Would you have a different system (PC) where you could give it a try?
> Just to figure out whether it's that Pi or some generic problem in your
>
> place?
>
> --
>
> Michael
I still have the ReadyNAS
Reverting to pCP 3.2.2 didn't fix it. Am now back with pCP 3.5.0.
Would you have a different system (PC) where you could give it a try?
Just to figure out whether it's that Pi or some generic problem in your
place?
--
Michael
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DavidBulluss wrote:
> Michael, thanks for that. I am trying to think of anything in my system
> that may have changed since earlier in the year when Spotty was working.
> Apart from the obvious of LMS updates and Spotty updates, all I can
> think of is changing to pCP 3.5.0 a month ago. I
danmalks wrote:
> I see the following in the log file, but read on the web that this
> probably doesn't help us diagnose, but figured I'd provide it anyway:
> [18-05-29 15:27:53.5208] Slim::Networking::IO::Select::__ANON__ (147)
> Error: Select task failed calling
>
Michael, thanks for that. I am trying to think of anything in my system
that may have changed since earlier in the year when Spotty was working.
Apart from the obvious of LMS updates and Spotty updates, all I can
think of is changing to pCP 3.5.0 a month ago. I wonder if it is
possible for be to
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