Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Material Skin
I am unused to Shortcuts. A more detailed look revealed that the WOL app has an action to send the packet, which is all I need. On first lookI only found the option to open the app. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109624 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Material Skin
Thanks to all for the advice. I have now created an iPhone shortcut that does the following: Opens a WOL app. Waits a while, Opens Material skin. During the waiting period I can manually get the WOL app to send the wake command. I would really like to do without the manual action. I wonder if any app would allow a shortcut that opens the wake-on-LAN app and automatically sends the wake command. I'll ask this in some of the Mac forums, as it is very specific to iPhone. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109624 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Material Skin
I've just installed Material Skin on my iPhone. Looks nice. I'm wondering if there is a clever way to do one thing I want. My LMS runs on my Mac Mini (using Big Sur). If the Mac is asleep then using the power button on the remote wakes up the server and connects. If I am using the iPhone, I suppose I can use an app like Fing to wake up the Mac, and then switch to Material Skin on Safari to control LMS. But is there any way to avoid having to use first one app (Fing) and then another (Safari)? danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109624 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] New plugin for audio bookmarks
Shozzer wrote: > You should see a separate option to Add bookmark. It appears, for me, > just above Save to Favourites. So that means I do understand what the contextual menu is. But I don't see that option.I am running Mac OS 10.15.4 (Catalina), LMS 7.9.2, but my Squeezebox is a very old one, Squeezebox 2, I think. I can see the Bookmarks plugin, with its options for the additional menu up and running, but no Add Bookmark option anywhere, even with a local track. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102859 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] New plugin for audio bookmarks
I have only just discovered this bookmark. I note that it can be used to bookmark a remote item. I take it this means that I can bookmark a BBC program that I have been listening to using BBC iPlayer. sternenjaeger wrote: > If you want to bookmark a remote track, album or playlist then click in > the "Now Playing" context menu on "Add bookmark for current Playlist" I plainly don't understand some of the basics of LMS or have something set wrong. What is the context menu? I would have guessed that it is the menu I get when pressing the Right button while listening. But that doesn't give an "add bookmark for current playlist" entry, only "save to favorites" and various pieces of information about the item. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102859 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Archive on 4
Man in a van wrote: > https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00hg8dq/broadcasts/2019/03 And this explains the situation. Archive on 4 is broadcast once a week on Radio 4, but episodes from the past appear frequently on Radio 4 Extra and can push the Radio 4 item down the list. Also, I see that the Radio 4 listing for February 23rd on that page is not the same as it was listed in the Radio Times, so the item broadcast may have changed from what I was expecting and I would not have found it. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110254 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Archive on 4
slartibartfast wrote: > The episodes are listed in "A-Z Radio 4 and 4 extra" in iPlayer Extras. > The latest episode is at the top of the list. > > Right, that's where I found Archive on 4, I should have known. But the item at the top of the list is NOT the latest (February 23rd, as the March 2nd has not been broadcast yet). The top item shows as "Some Like It Hot". I can't recall if that was the February 16th episode. Maybe, because it is not on the iPlayer listing, it has not appeared in the Extras listing yet, though it has been broadcast. I'll check later on, after another episode has been broadcast. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110254 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Archive on 4
Archive on 4 is a BBC Radio 4 weekly series (Saturdays at 8 p.m.). At one time it was visible in the BBC iPlayer listings. I think it's no longer there, certainly when I looked for last week's episode it wasn't present. I thought it might be among the podcasts shown under iPlayer Extras, but the series wasn't there. Is there an easy way to get it, preferably a way that gets the latest episode (looking for the title of individual episodes would not be a good way). danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110254 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer rebuffering
Thanks again. I'll ask if I continue to have trouble. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110244 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer rebuffering
Guess it must have been a BBC issue, as I've now had about eighty minutes with no problems, three different streams. It can be hard to tell where problems come from. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110244 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer rebuffering
cpd73 wrote: > It'll be seconds since 1st Jan 1970 (see > https://www.unixtimestamp.com/index.php) So, 1523349116 == Tue, 10 Apr > 2018 08:31:56 I thought that must be it. Is there an easy way (website, or program on Mac) to convert? danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110244 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer rebuffering
bpa wrote: > First usual log & setup info helps. > * any BBCiplayer message in the log file such as "long delay" > * any network related mesages in log - eg. cannot access > mysqueezebox.com > * Type of programe - live or on demand > * any correlation with day/time (e.g. if at weekends - BBC & CDNs likes > doing netwrok upgrades at weekends) > * Location - are you in the UK,outside the UK, or using a VPN > * type of player and network setup. > * BBCiplayer plugin settings Which log file do I need to look at? Is it server.log or do I need to set up one of the iPlayer logs? There seem to be about six possible iplayer logs. server.log does say 19-02-28 08:21:17.7617] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::__ANON__ (778) Chunk fetch status 200 Long chunk fetch time 2334 1000 [ Yes, I am getting mysqueezebox.com error messages, but not round the time I was having issues. SN: Invalid mysqueezebox.com username or password. [19-02-27 10:38:26.7961] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_init_error (185) Unable to login to mysqueezebox.com, sync is disabled: Invalid mysqueezebox.com username or password. (http://www.mysqueezebox.com) [19-02-27 10:38:26.7964] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_init_error (201) mysqueezebox.com sync init failed: Invalid mysqueezebox.com username or password., will retry in 115500 (http://www.mysqueezebox.com) [19-02-28 12:23:59.7812] Slim::Networking::SimpleAsyncHTTP::onError (229) Failed to connect to http://www.mysqueezebox.com/api/sounds/v1/opml (Couldn't resolve IP address for: www.mysqueezebox.com) [19-02-28 12:23:59.7813] Slim::Formats::XML::gotErrorViaHTTP (339) Error: getting http://www.mysqueezebox.com/api/sounds/v1/opml Couldn't resolve IP address for: www.mysqueezebox.com I never use mysqueezebox. On demand (as I said), and I am in the UK. No correlation with time that I can see. Specifically, the most recent occasion when I had problems was around 8.30 this morning UK time. Ancient Squeezebox (series 2, I think), wired connection to router, computer has wireless connection. I haven't yet tried rebooting router (though I have rebooted computer), but have had no problems at all until this week. On demand preferences set as Dash > HLS > mp3 > FlashAAC. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110244 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer rebuffering
Paul Webster wrote: > I think the release number rx is a timestamp ... so it would be > 2018-04-10T08:31:56+00:00 I also think it is a time stamp. But not in a form that is easily read by a human. That is, not as if 2018-04-10 made the release number be 180410 at the start. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110244 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer rebuffering
Lately I have not been able to listen comfortably to BBC on demand streams because they keep rebuffering. Not just once or twice in a program but frequently. What's causing this, what further information can I give you, and how can I resolve this? As far as I am aware, there are no obvious changes in my system that would lead to the problem. Lpgitech Media Server 7.9.1/r1523349116 (because I hadn't bothered to update recently), BBC 1Player 1.6.3, MacOS 10.14.3. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110244 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiplayer play it again list shows 404
mrw wrote: > And here's my revised menu.opml, in full, for normal people who don't do > patches. I'm not sure if this is in sync with the current version of the > plugin, though, but it might help some. Works for me (with an old Squeezebox, so no artwork could be available). Many thanks. I haven't checked any further about my problem with BBC iPlayer Extra given that the standard BBC iPlayer is now working. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109446 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiplayer play it again list shows 404
bpa wrote: > What are the BBCIplayerExtra settings ? The only setting is Select if you do not want DASH streams and the box is UNchecked danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109446 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiplayer play it again list shows 404
I'm getting the 404 error with BBC iPLayer (Mac OS 10.13.6, LMS 7.9.1/r1523349116, iPlayer 1.5.3). I am in the UK. Installed BBC iPlayer Extras 2.0.0. Had some trouble due to my error. Tried to play several programs on Radios 4 and 2 using the A-Z menus. Found the items OK, but when I tried to play the one I wanted got the message Error: no items in playlist. BBC iPlayer settings are currently DASH > HLS > MP3 > FlashAAC, they've not been changed for ages. What's the next thing to try? danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109446 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > The changes are small but I was worried that a change might break > something else or might not work on a different platform. The fix to > cutoff uses a POSIX library function and floating point repesentation > which can vary from Windows, Linux, OSX, ARM, x86, etc. I did basic > tests on x86 Linux & WIndows and IIRC you have a OSX system. Yes, that's right Mac OS 10.12.6 danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
Only had time to try one item so far. Working fine and goes to the end instead of cutting off a few seconds early. Many thanks. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
So far I have only had the time to check a single program. That was cut short on Squeezebox. But when I downloaded using get_iplayer it played to the end. Will check others later. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > When I get time I'll check. > What sort of player ? Transcoding and internal buffer may affect this. > > Have you checked is the same true on the BBC browser based player ? It > is easy to check - jump to one minute from end. > > Just from experience, I have found that BBC set "Listen Again" duration > according the program broadcast duration (e.g.28mins in a 30 mins slot) > but occasionally there is a promo at the start for about 1 min which > means the last one 1 min of the broadcast is chopped usually credits. > Even worse is 4Extra where sometimes the promo is 3 mins and 3 mins are > chopped from end of program. I have now looked at the Squeezebox screen while listening to a program. I have Now Playing set to show Time Remaining. As far as I can see (it's a bit difficult, as my reaction times may be slow) on Radio 4, the time remaining does not go down to zero but always stops at three or four seconds. I haven't checked any other ways of using a player yet. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
There's a problem I have frequently. I have assumed it is a BBC issue, but have decided it is time to post in case it is a problem with the plugin. I am in the UK, and regularly use Listen Again. I find that when listening to Radio 4 the last few seconds of most programs get cut off. So I don't hear the credits, which is a minor issue, but also part of the last sentence (or two) is also missing, which is annoying. Not much point in naming a particular program, as it happens more often than not. I don't get this issue on Radio 2 Listen Again (where programs usually include part of the following news summary) and I don't think it occurs on Radio 3 either. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
I'be veen away for a couple of days, and haven't checked myBBC iPlayer since I got back. But I had trouble over the weekend. I thought I should turn on logging, and tried to go to the logging option in setting, but for some reason localhost could not be reached. I turned LMS off and then on again, and everything worked fine. I don't know what the trouble was, but report it as it may help others if On Demand ceases to work. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: UPnPBridge = integrate UPnP/DLNA players with LMS (squeeze2upnp)
Should I be using this plugin if I want to use a UPnP device? Currently I seem to have a plugin UPnP/DLNA Media Interface by Andy Grundman. Nothing seems to be showing up on the device (Novafidelity/Cocktail X40) at the moment, though I have seen it show up occasionally. Of course I may not be understanding the X40. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103728 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayerExtra v1.0
bpa wrote: > I've known and warned users that many of the feeds Extra uses will die. > Extras uses feeds from a number of "sources" and I am not sure which one > you are referring to. > > Do we know if they have just died? Today I am getting 404 Not Found on all the National Schedule station in Extras. I am in the UK. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72709 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
I should have said that the programs I had trouble with were from Saturday and Sunday on Radio 3, and Thursday on Radio 4. As I mentioned, they all started ok but just stopped completely after a few minutes. I'm using Mac OS 10.12.3, and do have the Little Snitch firewall (technically it's not a firewall, but not sure what to call it) running, but that did not throw up any objections, which it does if it is blocking something. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.5.2 beta test
iPlayer Extras was refusing to connect, so - following this thread - I changed the iPlayer settings as suggsested and used iPlayer instead of extras. For the three Listen Again programs I tried (two on Radio 3, one on Radio 4), they all started OK but simply stopped after a few minutes. I haven't tried logging to see what happened. I am in the UK. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106409 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
Well, I've moved to 1.4.9 and also changed to put DASH first. Hopefully there won't be any problems. The CMA Awards played without issues for three hours, but haven't had time to try other programs. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > OK - Extra got led down a dead end not sure why (possibly a recent BBC > change) but in this dead end the only audio is an old Flash format which > talks about a competition being closed. > > Since late 2015 BBC are not creating any new "Listen Again" programs in > Flash (only in HLS and DASH) so I have only enabled playing HLS and DASH > - it seems you have Flash still enabled. Yes, I did have Flash enabled. I also have MP3 enabled (probably there is no point in that, but I may have wanted it at some earlier time) and it seems that the choice of settings currently does not have any options with MP3 enabled but not Flash. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
The specific program was the CMA awards (Radio 2, Wednesday 2 p.m.), though the same happened on a later program, but one earlier program I tried worked fine. I was rather surprised that iPlayer Extra and iPlayer gave different result (Extra giving this strange message, and iPlayer running properly for a few seconds and then stopping). Do you recommend using DASH rather than HLS? I think at one point HLS was the preferred (or else I was having problems with DASH) and I have never moved away from that. Maybe it is time to move. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
I must admit to being a bit confused as to what the best settings are, and what problems can occur. I am in the UK and always use Listen Again, not Listen Live. Today I got the following. Using iPlayer. Programs seem to run for the first few seconds and then stop. Using iPLayer Extra (Radio 2 for Wednesday) I selected a program in the normal way, but when I tried to play it I got a message "Competition entries have closed" and not the program itself. This happened with several programs, though Radio 4 worked fine. My settings are HLS>DASH for iPlayer, and the checkbox marked for iPlayer Extra (Select if you do not want Dash). iPlayer is 1.4.7 and Extra is 1.9.3. Using a Mac, otherwise I might have tried the latest version of iPlayer. Maybe it is time to change to put DASH first rather than HLS. And while I'm posting can I mention an issue that comes up from time to time that seems different from the rebuffering that people experience. I understand about the six-second chunks. It seems that occasionally the playing gets stuck and after a chunk has been played it just goes back to the start of the chunk, not actually playing anything but counting down for six seconds and then back to the start of the count repeatedly. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer Plugins - an alternative quick fix guide
bpa wrote: > Long response times by BBC servers show up as "Couldn't resolve IP > address " errors - the majority of these are not DNS errors but long > reponse time from the CDN servers but confusingly reported by LMS as a > "couldn't resolve IP" . The timeouts used by the HLS code is the > default value set by LMS Setting "Radio Station Timeout." (WebUI > Settings/Advanced/Network/Radio Station Timeout) which is by default set > to 3 - change this setting to at least 15 and report back if it helps. My setting is at the maximum available (I think it is 30), which usually works. I have wondered if it is possible to go into the code and change it to a larger figure, such as 60. I would rather wait for a minute than have to restart the whole program, which is what happens at times currently. I know that some bits of code are easy to change, for instance I have changed the BBC iPlayer Extras default.opml to put the National Radio Schedules at the top, but of course other items of code won't allow simple changes. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103435 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer oddity
I have various problems with BBC iPlayer Listen Again streams cutting out (stopping completely, not just rebuffering) that I am fairly sure are due to problems at my ISP. However, a new issue has come up in the last couple of days, using iPlayer Extra Listen Again. The stream will suddenly stop producing sound, and the Now Playing display will recycle the time. That is the time remaining will show (say) 20 minutes 45 seconds, count down to 20 minutes 40 seconds and then go back to 20.45 and again. What's happening here, and can I do anything about it? I've found Listen Again hopelessly unreliable since the BBC change in February (was that when it was), with programs just stopping in the middle, but that does seem to be my ISP not coping with the repeated change in URL that I gather the new chunking method uses. I am in the UK.. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104638 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
utgg wrote: As I've needed to touch a few files in the plugin, I'm just posting a patch file at the moment (only applies to the BBCiPlayer-v1.3.1alpha3 plugin). Sorry, this is for linux command line only for now (or cygwin or similar in windows). able as it is GPLv2), he's in no way responsible for any problems I may have now introduced... How about on a Mac? I don't have time to try it myself at the moment. My guess is that the same command in Terminal will work. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again
Man in a van wrote: Thanks bpa, I have just done this on my Touch and the listen again is BONA! It's a pity that the live streams don't work. Now, I used WinScp to transfer the file but I have a friend with one of those Apple products, how would I instruct him to perform the necessary? Would he use Terminal? and what would the commands be? If someone could help with this information I would appreciate it. atb ronnie. There's a clever trick with Terminal on a Mac. Dragging a file from a Finder window into the Terminal window automatically enters its full path. Saves a lot of time and trouble. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103293 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Time for me to join others in saying thanks to those who have done the work on updating. Losing Listen Again would have been a disaster for me.n danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
For what it's worth (not much, but surely a little) I succeeded in downloading today's Start the Week using a program I have on my Mac, even though the BBC iPlayer plugin did not work. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
I don't know if this is a pure coincidence, but when I tried Listen Again (as with everyone else, getting nothing playing) Little Snitch (program that blocks outgoing connections until they are authorised) reported that Perl was trying to connect to zdnet.com and (on another try) to quantservere.com. Can't see why trying to play a radio stream should want a connection there, but I wasn't knowingly doing anything else involving perl at the time. Sometimes Little Snitch has blocked a genuine connection (on the macromedia port 1935) and the stream only started playing when I allowed this. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] How do I get BBC iPlayer to work - I am confused - help please
AngloCuencano wrote: Reading around it maybe because I have the latest version of the server but I am not too sure. I think this is your problem. I could not get the Play HLS plugin to install correctly on the latest 7.9 nightly. It works fine on 7.8, although I don't like that version as much as 7.9. It must be related to the nightlies, then. Works fine on 7.9/r1410360441 on my Mac. Also to AndyBeevers I would say that currently the only problem with iPlayer is the live streams. It works as it sued to on Listen Again, but this may not be true for much longer. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103239 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Apple OS X HLS Setup with LMS
whitman wrote: I've just run network diagnostics: all reported fine. You really need to try Network Diagnostics at a time when you are getting cut-outs, or possibly stuttering though any network problems there will presumably have cleared up when the stuttering stops. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103209 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Apple OS X HLS Setup with LMS
whitman wrote: Thanks, Danco. Seemingly just a coincidence, then? OK, so, I'll hang in there to see if Listen Again improves. I don't actually use Listen Live that much, but obviously I will have to change over at some point in order to get that facility. When I do, I can see the link to the relevant instructions in post 2 here, but how about getting the opml and installing that? My guess is that it's just a coincidence. You could try running Apple's Network Diagnostics to see if there are any issues with the network. As for menu.opml, just search for it and you will find files to download. Replace the existing file , whose location is given in post #8, with the new one. You need toehold the Option key, while using the Finder's Go menu to get to your Library. (You may well know this already). danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103209 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Apple OS X HLS Setup with LMS
whitman wrote: Well there I was innocently thinking it was just me. Stuttering playback and cutting-out playback on various Listen Again BBC shows over the last week or so on my Classics via OSX and the usually trusty iplayer plugin. But a bit of googling reveals loads (and loads and loads!) of moaning about what I now know is a change at the BBC ... but very little clear advice about what to do. So ... this is where I've had great advice in the past whenever I've had a glitch with my Squeezeboxes. What do I do now, chaps? There hasn't been a change with Listen Again yet. I get this problem a lot, but I think it is an issue with the connection from my router to my ISP as it affects other internet connections. It might be an issue with the connection from my computer to the router, which is by Powerline. I wish I knew how to check which of the two it is. As you can see, this thread gives the information on how to change things so that Listen Live works again. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103209 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Apple OS X HLS Setup with LMS
bpa wrote: Make sure BBCIplayer settings are set to the most comprehensive and enable transcoding. You can enable player.source to DEBUG and then try playing a stream. The log which ffmpeg is run. Yes, that was the problem. Now playing fine. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103209 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Apple OS X HLS Setup with LMS
Yes, ffmpeg is in usr/local/bin, which I understand is correct. I could try usr/bin, but prefer it in usr/ocal/bin. I could change the plugin to look for it there if that's not the default, but anyway it is shown when I check Advanced, File Types in LMS settings. menu.opml is working fine, showing the stations. I've now checked that ffmpeg works fine from Terminal. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103209 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Apple OS X HLS Setup with LMS
So everything seems to be installed ok according to the instructions, but I'm not getting any output. Running Mac OS 10.10.2 on a MacBook Pro. The Play HLS plugin is installed, as is ffmpeg from the site suggested. The File types do show ffmpeg under Apple HLS. The new version of menu.opml is installed, and seems to be working correctly. I can get to the BBC streams. But when I try to play something, there is no sound. What's the next step in debugging? What logs can I turn on? Can I get hold of a stream and test it in Terminal? If so, what's the syntax? I tried modifying the suggestions for Linux, but things are evidently slightly different. Not that I need the new stuff now, as I am in the UK, and don't have a multi-room system. But it would probably help for when the Listen Again streams get changed. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103209 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayerExtra v1.0
bpa wrote: Great - did you have problems with some programs and did the update solve it ? 1.7 downloaded ok, and all the programs I couldn't get before now play fine. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72709 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer freezes occasionally
I have had this issue for ages. No problem when BBC iPlayer is set to WMA only, but we are losing those streams soon. Other settings always lose the program from time to time. Usually gives me the message rebuffierng 5% but stops at 5% and shortly gives me a message Can't open file for ... I have a slightly complicated setup, and I haven't been able to work out where the problem is. Because of location (router at one end of my flat, computer at the other, SB in between) I use Devolo dLAN devices to connect. So there could be a problem with my network, with my internet connection, or with Talktalk. I've never been able to tell which. The Devolo utility shows connection of the network, my router has the relevant lights lit, but the Network Diagnostic Utility says there is no connection to my ISP. LMS 7.9, Mac OS 10.10.1 danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102873 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer freezes occasionally
Oh, and another issue, which is presumably a problem at the BBC end. I have been away for several weeks, and am trying to catch up with radio programs. Several of them are listed in BBC iPlayer Extras, but when I try to play them they just show as 00:00 and Stopped. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102873 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer freezes occasionally
rbl wrote: I also get the rebuffering, but to be fair it usually kick starts itself after 10-30 seconds, but not always. My entire system is wired so nothing to do with that. I used to have TalkTalk (copper), and recently changed to BT fibre, which made no difference at all. Will now try the WMA streams and see if that is any better... WMA works well for me. But as it will be cut off soon, it isn't a real solution. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102873 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer freezes occasionally
bpa wrote: I updated Extras plugin in mid Dec to 1.6 this removed the menus which BBC killed in Oct and added a lots of iPlayer categories/latest menus but BBC killed off a few more feeds just before Christmas affects mainly R1, R2 and 6Music. I have an updated version of plugin which gets around this issue. If the program you have had problems are not R1,R2, 1Xtra or 6Music - please give specific example so I can check. Some programs are now UK only, they get listed but I cannot play them. I am in the UK. Quite a few programs on radio 4 that show up in the menus just produce Stopped 00:00. For instance, Count Arthur Strong's Christmas Speical, I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue, Tom Wrigglesworth's Hang-Ups and several others. I haven't tried reaching them by my web browser yet. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102873 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
bpa wrote: If not playing WMA - then probably playing Flash/AAC. If you can play the stream on iPlayer browser interface (which uses Flash/AAC) then it is unlikely to be the stream or ISP. AAC has to be transcoded into Flac to play on an SB2. Rebuffering could be caused by processor load or network load. I don't think there should be a processor problem so perhaps it is network related. What is CPU load on Macbook when playing the stream ? Of course, following standard behaviour, after reporting intermittent problems, I am currently not getting them! Do the logs show what kind of stream is being played? If so, how? A quick current check shows a CPU load of around 10% with several programs running but idle.Network download shows at around 30 KB/s, and the Powerline load (or available load) at 80 Mbits/second. I could move to a Squeezebox Touch, either as a trial or permanently, as I have on as a spare. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
bpa wrote: On the SB2 if you look at the More Info while the stream is playing - under Bitrate - if it says transcoded to xxxkbps FLAC) then stream is being transcoded which has bigger load on processor and network (2 streams - router to server Flash/AAC and server to player Flac) . If there is no Bitrate entry or just says XXXkbps CBR - then Sb2 is playing natively. If playing WMA then stream goes directly from BBC to player no server involved. That's useful to know. But I don't know how to get to More Info. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
bpa wrote: When track is playing press right Arrow on Remote, then down until you get More Info menu and then right arrow and then down to find details. Thanks. I had never noticed that option. I can't see, from the data I have, that either processor or network should be overloaded. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
If I Listen Again to BBC using WMA, I usually get a good stream. But if I try the default settings (AAC Flash AAC FlashMP3 WMA) I get lots of rebuffing, and quite often the stream stops completely and I have to start again from the beginning. This wouldn't worry me, WMA is good enough for me, except that I gather the WMA streams will be switched off shortly. I am in the UK. I am not sure if the problem is with my connection to my ISP, or with my local network. The latter is (and pretty much has to be, given the position of my router and my computer) Powerline, rather than the more common wired ethernet or wireless. Any suggestions for solving or diagnosing the problem would be valuable. I am using a 2011 MacBook Pro, running OS 10.9.5 danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer keeps rebuffering
I have had the same issue recently. LMS 7.8.0, plugin 1.1.10, with a much slower internet connection. Solved by changing the plugin settings and removing the FlashAAC and Flashmp3 options. Ithe the Flash in the name genuinely uses Adobe Flash, it is possible that that some of mysettings to cut down use of Flash on Web pages have affected its use in iPlayer. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101756 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer keeps rebuffering
If you do tinker, it's easy enough to set things back to the original. It's just a matter of making a choice from a list in the iPlayer settings. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101756 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer rebuffering
Until recently BBC iPlayer worked fine on my SB. But for the last few days it rebuffers so often that the streams are unlistenable. I am wondering how to find out the cause of the problem and how to cure it. SB Classic, LMS 7.8 running on an iMac with OS 10.9.2. The only change I am aware of is that I recently installed the latest security update. The problems seem to have started after that. Also I had needed to shutdown and restart my iMac a few times (no problems with the computer, but my electric wiring had some work done on it so the power was shut off). danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101437 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPlayer rebuffering
As so often happens, the problem disappears after posting about it. I have just been listening to a Listen Again programme for two hours, with only a couple of very short drops. The problem could have been with my internet connection, but I have a feeling that it was somewhere else, that something is going on that clears up after the SB has been on (not standby) for an hour or so. And that this has to work itself through again after each time I turn the computer on. My normal practice is to keep the computer on for weeks at a time, so I would not normally run into such a situation, but my recent need to shut it down several times might have led to the issue. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101437 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
VirusKiller wrote: I have a suspicion that Time Machine in OSX may be interfering. Whenever it kicks in (hourly), everything on the box freezes for a few seconds. Unfortunately, there appears to be no option to have it run once at, say, 4am. Apple does not provide an interface. But there is the third-party Time Machine Editor. I am sure it can also be done by using Terminal, or digging into a plist. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues
nonnoroger wrote: The main problem I have found with WOL in ML is that OSX goes back to sleep after 30 sec unless some application sets a power assertion to prevent it. The attempts to use ReallyPreventStandby I proposed earlier in this thread, and also the new version of PreventStandby in the current 7.8 nightlies, do not reliably get in fast enough to set the power assertion before that timeout. This is largely due to the 60 sec polling approach that these plugins take. I think this explains why on occasions when I have turned the player on it will say waking server, connecting to server and then almost immediately can't connect. I suspect it also explains why a second attempt always seems to work. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95980 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues
nonnoroger wrote: But that is not what happens with Mountain Lion. As I have explained in several posts. The idle period is only applied after interactive use. Once that has expired a WOL does not keep ML awake for another idle period. This is why we are trying to find a solution. I don't think your earlier explanations were clear on this. If I now understand you correctly, there would be other situation where this would apply. For instance, if the Mac wakes of its own accord (say, to perform the daily tasks) it would not stay awake for the period set in Energy Saver. As I have also said before I think Apple have it right with ML. It is now up to developers to use the tools properly, (And I do know about legacy programs which will not be fixed but caffeinate and a corresponding GUI will provide a solution for that.) We seem to agree on this. I must have been misinterpreting you earlier, because I thought you were arguing that such a solution was a bad thing. Caffeinate is fine for interactive use when the Mac is already awake, directly, or indirectly from scripts, but to call after WOL will give us race conditions in my view. I expect you are right on this. By the way, one run of your approach to ReallyPreventStandby has worked fine, have not yet done any other runs. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95980 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues
nonnoroger wrote: I am now happy enough with the fix to ReallyPreventStandby (please see earlier post for full testing instructions) that I am going to keep my system this way for now. If you choose to do the same, I strongly recommend that you get yourself your own copy of caffeinate for use just by ReallyPreventStandby. This will prevent any other interactive uses of caffeinate from being unexpectedly terminated after all you SB's are turned off. Very neat idea. I have run into one problem, that is probably the way ReallyPreventStandby works (but I never debugged enough previously to know about it). I listened to a program on BBC using BBC iPlayer. After a while I stopped it (but did not turn my SB off). I thought ReallyPreventStandby would now regard the SB as idle. However it seems not, I had to wait till PowerSave kicked in to turn the SB off. I'll have to check with an item from my own music library rather than the BBC. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95980 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues
You are right about the settings. I don't use Spotify, just local files and BBC at present, so I'll see if I have any problems with that setting unchecked. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95980 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues
So, is this a simple change that we can make for ourselves, or does it require a modified plugin? If the latter, can you post your modification. I would be prepared to try it, though my own solution seems to be working for me at the moment. I have had no problems with WOL. Maybe my answer is not subject to the problem you report. But more likely that issue depends on the model of Mac that one has. I am using a 2007 iMac. I do agree that the best solution is for LMS to deal with the issue in its own code, but I don't see that we will have to set the assertions within LMS itself, when ReallyPreventStandby works, rather that it would be *much* neater. The one advantage of my approach is that it does provide a double-clickable way of preventing sleep, whatever else is going on. That is something I find useful. For instance, at the moment I m expecting an instant message from a friend so like to have my Mac awake with display awake, so as to make it easy to check if there is a message. Power assertions would not be the way to go with Messages/iChat, since most of the time one does not need to keep the machine awake, it is just a personal preference. Another case where power assertions wouldn't work is VisualHub, which still works fine but is not being developed further, so we are stuck with it as it is. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95980 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues
nonnoroger wrote: It is a simple change to the plugin that you can make for yourself once it is installed. See next post for the modification. But let me clarify once again. ReallyPreventStandby still relies on polling every 60 seconds. There is an almost inevitable race condition that depends on the precise timing of asynchronous events that leads in my testing to the Mac occasionally going back to sleep after WOL before caffeinate has set the power assertion. For similar reasons, it sometimes goes back to sleep too early - ignoring the set grace period in the settings of Really PreventStandby. I asked if others wanted to try it nevertheless so we could get an idea of just how often this happens in practice. Sorry but again I seem to have failed to help you understand my point. It is not an issue with WOL in general but with WOL from a Squeezebox when ReallyPreventStandby is polling every 60 seconds. Hopefully, other applications that use WOL will do what is necessary themselves. The nature of the race condition will no doubt change depending on how many cores the processor has. I run LMS on a late 2009 Mac Mini. It is not just a question of neatness. It is only with LMS creating and releasing its own power assertions that we will be able to reliably avoid the race conditions explained above. Of course, I too would like Caffeine or something like it to work reliably again (I have had no response from the developers). But that is a different solution to a different problem I felt some of your earlier posts implied that you did not like the idea of Caffeine. It seems I was wrong. I have also written to the developer with no reply as yet. I understand about the possibility of a race. What I do not understand is why, after WOL has woken up a Mac, it would ever go to sleep before the idle period as set in Energy Saver. If it stayed awake that long, RPS would always win the race. That's why I was suggesting trying what happens with WOL in other situations. I note that a Google search does reveal some issues with WOL, for instance https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3735289?start=0tstart=0. When I have a bit of time, I'll follow your instructions on reworking RPS, much neater than mine. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95980 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues
Couple of thoughts on your solution. The -i switch should not be necessary, as the default is to prevent idle sleep. For debugging purposes, caffeinate -di might be good. That prevents both display sleep and idle sleep, which makes checking easier in step 14. I've made your changes, but currently do not have time to check the result. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95980 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues
As I understand it, under ML hard drive activity does not prevent sleep. Previously, it was *supposed* to prevent sleep, but this worked for some people and not for others. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95980 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues
Yes I first found the issue with BBCiPlayer. But of course it also happens when playing tracks from a local library on an external drive. Interestingly, the latest version of Get iPlayer Automator specifically states that on ML it prevents sleep while downloading. As for ReallyPreventStandby, I have now followed up my earlier posts, and have a shell script to prevent standby and one to permit standby once the SB is idle. I haven't fully checked with Activity Monitor or the like, but I don't think my inhibit standby script does repeatedly spawn a process. The trick is, yo check whether a process (my Dummy application) is already running, and to do nothing if it is. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95980 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues
nonnoroger wrote: But the bug report I am asking people to vote for goes back years. Yes, but the problem occurred because some machines (not all, I think) simply did not behave the way Apple stated that sleep worked. That is, they would sleep even when there was hard drive activity, although Apple specifically stated that hard drive activity prevented sleep. It would have been a nice feature if Logitech/SlimDevices had worked round this, but it was hardly a bug . I am not sure if you mean it is an issue for Apple to sort out or an Apple-specific issue for Logitech. My view is that Apple at last have it right. I think it is great that my Mac Mini will at last go to sleep reliably after the time I have set in preferences. It is each App that knows best whether it needs to override these defaults. With the power assertions they have at last given the tools that allow App developers to implement this. I agree with you. Power assertions seems a good way to go. I wonder if Apple just decided that hard drive activity simply did not prevent sleep reliably enough, and decided to provide power assertions. Sorry but this is the wrong way round. We should not need Caffeine anymore if developers cotton on and adapt their programs for ML. I would worry that providing such a menu bar facility would give developers a get-out from doing so. Using caffeinate directly from the command line gives us all we really *need* in the mean time - apart from convenience. We should not need third party sleep timers or third party keep-awake timer kludges. Logitech, along with other developers need to be pushed to take advantage of power assertions under ML. I partly agree. Certainly developers need to take advantage of power assertions. I am not sure that it is a matter of pushing, as developers do need time to respond to the changes in ML. caffeinate from the command-line is, as you say, all we *need*, but a double-clickable file (even if not a menu bar item) is *much* more convenient. I have several programs that are still useful but are no longer being developed, so caffeinate (via command-line or shell script) is needed. And others where from time to time I want my computer and display awake, so that I can see what is going on with them. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95980 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues
nonnoroger wrote: It is about time that this issue was solved by Logitech. Please vote for http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8141 as the third party attempted fixes are now tenuous so say the least. Many many thanks to those of you who have been working to put together a workaround but I feel it needs to be sorted by Logitech. I think you are a bit hard on Logitech. Mountain Lion introduced a new sleep policy (hard drive activity is ignored in resetting the sleep timer, only keyboard or mouse activity counts) that might not have made it into the final version of ML, so it wasn't really something to concentrate on. And ML has been out for less than a month. Also, it is primarily an Apple issue, as any program that runs for a long time without human interaction (large downloads, video conversion, etc) gets caught. If you look at the Mountain Lion section of Apple support community, the thread help with caffeinate, you will find, as soon as I have time to put it up, instructions on how to write your own script to keep a Mac awake. Someone else will need to write a simple program to put this in the menu bar, in the way that Caffeine did. I know a fair bit about this kind of problem, because of the reverse issue. My Mac running Snow Leopard refuses to go to sleep according to the Energy Saver settings. That got solved by using a third party sleep timer, but those were not reset by hard drive activity. So I had to use Jiggler or Caffeine to keep the Mac awake when I needed to (or Really Prevent Standby or Sever Power Control for Squeezebox use). danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95980 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues
I'm getting further into things. I'm not sure if the ps -ax bit needs = 1 or = 0. I think it may be 1 when run from the terminal but 0 when part of a shell script. You can't use caffeinate on a Mac application, only on a Unix command. So the caffeinate line needs to be caffeinate -i open -W path to Waiter.app I have seen suggested that it should be open -W -a but I don't know why this should be. It may not apply in this case. The -W is important, as caffeinate only stops sleep as long as open is running, and without the -W this just opens the application and is then finished, while with -W open remains active until the application is quit. One can perhaps tidy up the script with a parameter to put Waiter into the background (I think it is -g) plus a line (using osascript -e to call an Applescript) to put Terminal into the background. It looks to me as though Really Prevent Standby itself would work using a suitable shell script along those lines to prevent standby rather than the default option. I'll be happy to test if Gordon or anyone want to work it out further, or I might find the time to try it myself, now that I know how to use caffeinate. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95980 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues
I haven't tested this yet, and I'm not experienced with scripting. But I think the following or something like it would work under Server Power Control. 1. Create a program that does very little. The Applescript delay 10 saved as a stay-open application would do (stay open is important). Give it a name such as Waiter (perhaps better would be something more complicated such as MyPersonalWaiter in case Waiter is part of the name of some other process). 2. Now create a shell script whose active content is if [ $(ps -ax | grep -c [: print:]*Waiter) = 1 ] then open -g pathtoWaiter.app caffeinate pathtoWaiter.app fi where pathtoWaiter.app os the full path to the application. (I had to put in a space between : and p else it would have come out as a smiley) The logic is as follows The $( ) bit counts the number of running processes containing the word Waiter. There will always be one (that is, if these were Terminal lines, not sure if that also applies as a shell script) because the actual grep message provides one such process, but more than one if Waiter is running. So the condition holds only when Waiter is not running. If Waiter is already running nothing happens At that point Waiter gets opened in the background and caffeinate prevents sleep while Waiter is running. We should then be able to use this as the shell script for ServerPowerControl to run. One advantage of this script is that it can be used to prevent sleep whenever we want, not just for LMS issues. I'll experiment further, but better coders than me might like to try themselves. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95980 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues
(Later) I've been doing a bit of further investigating. So far I have not been able to get caffeinate to work on an application, it keeps coming up with permission denied. I find someone on the Apple Support Community forums with the same problem, so it seems to be a matter of some usage not being documented properly. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95980 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
I am using a Squeezebox 2 with wired (Powerline) connection. The settings are (the default, I think) AAC FlashAAC FlashMP3 WMA. I was wondering whether programs that showed in Extras but not in iPlayer were sent out by the BBC in a different format. Certainly I get the rebuffering problem often when I use Extras and rarely (never, I think, but can't recall) in iPlayer. What I have not checked is whether the problem is related to time of day, whether perhaps my ISP is choked at certain times. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Listen Again under iPlayer seems to work fine for me. But when I use iPlayer Extras (sometimes a program is not shown in iPlayer, but is in Extras, so I have to use Extras) I often find that there is so much rebuffering that the program is hardly worth listening to. Is that likely to be an issue with the BBC, with my ISP, or the settings on LMS (running on my computer)? If the last of these, what should I do? And if the cause is outside my control, what can be done? danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues
nonnoroger wrote: OSX Mountain Lion (ML) has an idle sleep policy that requires apps to set sleep assertions if they want to prevent sleep after the period set in Energy Saver - see for example http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/07/os-x-10-8/18/. This means that utilities I relied on under Lion - Caffeine and ReallyPreventStandby plugin for LMS no longer work. I'm sure you know what's happening on your own machine. But I see that the Roaringapps compatibility table lists Caffeine as compatible with Mountain Lion. If it's not, maybe you should report it there. I've just installed ML on an external drive, not my main one, so I'll check some time what result I get. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95980 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] OSX Mountain Lion sleep issues
I don't have Mountain Lion yet, but I wonder if my old solution would work. There was a little program called Jiggler that prevented sleep by simulating a mouse movement every minute or so. I wrote a very simple shell script to start and quit Jiggler, and then I used Server Power Control to run these scripts at the relevant moments. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95980 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
As I mentioned, I have been doing a large online backup. I guess that was just taking over too much of the bandwidth, as reducing bandwidth when present seems to have cured the problem. -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
I am getting a lot of Can't resolve IP address for ww.bbc.co.uk at the moment, and am wondering about the cause, and what I should do about it. I am busy with a large online backup, and it would not surprise me if that is preventing Logitech Media Server getting to my ISP quickly enough. Is that likely to be the cause, and if so would increasing the radio station timeout (currently 35 seconds) cure it? -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer Repeats
I had this in the past but not currently. I have a vague feeling that it may depend on what format one is steaming in. No idea why it happens, though. -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89935 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Thanks for supporting third party developers!
nietgiftig;649023 Wrote: I would mention gharris999 with the SvrPowerControl wich I use every day Yes, many thanks to him. He updated SvrPowerControl after some suggestions of mine. I don't use this plugin now, because he also produced Really Prevent Standby, which does all I need. And, of course, thanks to Triode for BBC iPlayer, which I use every day. -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89528 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl
It is a great plugin, and gharris has given a lot of help and responded to suggestions for changes. Many thanks. It was trickier than many plugins to install, but still acceptable with some thought by the user and the author's (and others') devoted response to requests for help. The thread is immensely long, which can make searching for information difficult. As one example, I now find ReallyPreventStandby fulfils my needs, and I don't use SvrPowerControl itself any more, although it had been changed at my request. I'm not sure how easy it currently is for a person to find out about ReallyPreventStandby, I learnt about it because I read this thread regulrly. Maybe I should start a separate thread about ReallyPreventStandby, just to guide others to it. I would hate it if an update to SqueezeboxServer broke these plugins. -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48521 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Phil08;619561 Wrote: Hi Guys, I am having an issue with the iPlayer on Radio2. I have not been able to select a day to playback programs from Wednesday onwards. As each day goes there are less playback days available so that by wednesday there will be none. This is also the case when a specific program is selected, the playback feature is not available from Wednesday onwards. Is this a new 'feature' of iPlayer, has the BBC decided not to allow playbacks or do I have a broken system? Running SQ7.4.1-28947 on QNAP TS-119 with iPlayer V1.1.14. Any ideas? Yes, look at other threads before posting! There's a thread specifically on this issue. Seems to be a BBC problem. There'sa work around by a modification to the iPlayer Extras plugin. -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl
It's looking as though my problem was just a glitch. Perhaps caused by the upgrade to 7.5.3 and cured by restarting SBS. At any rate, I first reported trouble after two different radio programs stopped in the middle more than once with Please Sleep confirming in its log that it had sent my machine to sleep. I am not aware of anything I did to change the behaviour, but yesterday I listened to several programmes without trouble. As to your problem with your Mac not going to sleep, it's certainly worth trying the suggestion made. You should also investigate what happens if you remove peripherals, some of them prevent sleep. But my experience was that I tried a lot of things, including resetting. removing peripherals, logging in to a different account, and nothing worked. -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48521 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl
gharris999;609550 Wrote: Ok, second test..still working. In Energy Saver, I have the system set to go into safe sleep after 10 minutes. I started an album playing with SBS and let it play through to the end. After it finished and then after the default 20 minute ReallyPreventStandby idle-grace period, PleaseSleep put the system under. So...it seems to be working for me, at least. If you can't get ReallyPreventStandby to keep the system awake on its own, and since you're using PleaseSleep, you might try configuring PleaseSleep's force sleep unless feature to keep track of sleep-inhibit. I'll experiment further. Is there any logging I could do to check what's going on? I'm not entirely sure if the force sleep unless works with Unix executables rather than Mac apps, but again I can try. However, you said you were playing an album. What happens if you play a stream from internet radio? With an album, Energy Saver should keep the system awake (hard drive activity), though Please Sleep ignores that. -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48521 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl
gharris999;609072 Wrote: OK, I'm struggling with getting even basics (like getting the system to sleep on its own) to work after updating to OS X 10.6.6 10J567. With the advent of the App store, suddenly, I hate my mac. Basic, open source utilities like lingon suddenly are paid apps. Am I just an old curmudgeon, or are computers becoming a whole lot less fun? Anyway, I can't test ReallyPreventStandby until I can get my mac to sleep on its own. Give me a little more time here.. My Mac has never been able to sleep on its own. It is known that Energy Saver doesn't work for some people, but there have been various suggestions for the cause, none of which seemed to be my problem. I use a third-party utility (Please Sleep, but there are others)) to force sleep after the time set in Energy Saver. Server Power Control, with Jiggler or Caffeine, than prevents sleep when my Squeezebox is playing, and Really Prevent Standby used to work. As for apps becoming paid, that's the developers' decision. Apple does permit free apps on the Mac App Store, and I have several. I guess that the developers now feel that they can charge a very small account and make a decent amount of money. Previously it might not have been worth their while to charge. -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48521 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl
gharris999;608656 Wrote: Truthfully, I haven't extensively tested ReallyPreventStandby on my mac-mini. Nor do I do a lot of BBC listening as I live way on the other side of the digital divide. But I'll try testing this tomorrow. I wouldn't expect the problem is with it being a BBC stream, more likely a change in 7.5.3. Is there any checking I could do? -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48521 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl
I use a Mac (OS 10.6.6) and moved from SerberPowerControl to Really Prevent Standby. It seemed to work OK, but I have just upgraded Squeezebox Server to 7.5.3. Have just tried listening with BBC iPlayer and found that my Mac went to sleep. I can't quite recall whether I had been able to listen in 7.5.3 at all without my Mac sleeping. It was certainly OK on 7.5.1 (I hadn't gone to 7.5.2, went straight from 7.5.1 to 7.5.3). Not a major issue, as I can always reinstall ServerPowerControl, but it would be good to know if this is just a one-off glitch or a real issue. -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48521 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl
I've just tried ReallyPreventStandby on my Core 2 Duo iMac, and it seems to be working fine. I've only done a limited amount of checking, but I have listened to an hour of BBC iPlayer without my machine going to standby, and with the display sleeping. Further, the computer did go to sleep after the time set in EnergySaver once the Squeezebox was put into standby, I wasn't entirely sure if the latter would work as, because of some oddities in the way EnergySaver works on my machine, I use a third party utility to force sleep. -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48521 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl
mrw;593646 Wrote: Expect is standard issue in OSX 10.4 10.5, and Apple's website implies that it is also standard issue in 10.3 and 10.6. No installed port required. The script runs on both 10.4 10.5 without modification. I think the script itself should work fine on Mac OS 10.6. But the installation will have to be different. There's a new mechanism for starting things up, and there may well not be a StartupItems folder (I seem to have one left over from a 10.5 installation, and I believe the couple of items in it do work). Nowadays one needs a plist in either LaunchDaemons or LaunchAgents. I don't know enough about this to work out what's needed. -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48521 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl
Also a question of interpretation in editing the script. One has to insert one's own user name, that's obvious. But, where the script says xxUserNamexx does one replace the whole of that expression by the actual name or should the x symbols remain, that is are they present just to attract human attention or do they have a genuine role to play? -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48521 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl
mrw;593805 Wrote: If the StartupItems folder does indeed continue to work in 10.6 then, pro tem, I would be inclined to leave as is. But I don't have a 10.6 machine to try it on. Do you know how the server starts itself at boot on 10.6 ? If this script/task does prove to be of value to the OSX community, then it might be worthwhile organizing a plug-in to start stop it from within the server. To avoid having to cater for these variable start up mechanisms. See Apple's article you quoted on Creating a Startup Item. It seems to imply that you can still create a startup item, but that launchd is preferred. And it gives further references. The real problem is that a fresh installation of 10.6 will not contain a StartupItems folder, so it would need to be created. I've been playing with the script, trying using StartupItems and trying (using Lingon) creating a launchd item. I've almost certainly done something wrong, as I can see (from Activity Monitor) that sleepwatcher is running, but there's no log. As I haven't switched off the way I am currently preventing sleep, I've no idea if the script is working. I won't have time for a while to do much further checking. I run Squeezebox Server at login, not boot so I'm not sure quite how it works. Lingon is an easy way of creating the relevant launchd plist. -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48521 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl
gharris999;592732 Wrote: @tm: Actually, that sound like a good idea. I have been working on my first compiled OSX app to prevent sleep, but I think it will probably share the same defect as Jiggler and Caffeine..I.e. Keep the monitor on.. The thing about Jiggler and Caffeine is that they prevent sleep by simulating mouse movement, so they keep the monitor on. I have my computer sleep set to fifteen minutes, display sleep to five minutes. I set Jiggler to only jiggle every fourteen minutes, so it prevents computer sleep but lets the display sleep some of the time. If you want to allow display sleep but disallow computer sleep, you will need to go deeper into the system, probably somewhere along the lines that tm suggests. -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48521 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl
mrw;592939 Wrote: @tm There is very useful sleep/wake tool available for OSX: SleepWatcher http://www.bernhard-baehr.de/ The tool can be made to run in the background and call up a script to determine whether or not the system may sleep. I made a script to interrogate the Squeezebox server through the CLI interface, and deny sleep if a player is currently active. It works pretty well. Please give us the script. You say it works pretty well. Does that mean it has minor glitches, or what? -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48521 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer plugin problems
I'm not sure if this is new behaviour, but I think it is. When I use iPlayer on LIsten Again, at the end of the programme instead of stopping it starts from the beginning again. I really don't like this. I checked the most obvious thing. The Web interface to my Squeezebox does show Repeat off, as I want. -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74708 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC iPlayer plugin problems
Triode;591123 Wrote: Which server version is this with? 7.5.1, but I think I saw it recently with 7.5.0. Mac OS 10.6.5. -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74708 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl
The Jiggler scripts are #!/bin/bash osascript -e 'tell application Jiggler to launch' to turn it on and #!/bin/bash osascript -e 'tell application Jiggler to launch' to turn it off. These are shell scripts. The first line I think defines what shell is being used. osascript calls an Applescript, and the -e flag says that the line between the two occurrences of ' is the script. For multi-line scripts you can either use -e '...' -e '...' repeatedly, one line at a time, or omit the -e and call a file. I seem to remember that if you tell application Jiggler to activate this starts it and brings it to the front, whereas launch keeps it in the background. Caffeine on the Mac should be running all the time as a menu bar item that you can click on, and the Applescripts would be tell application Caffeine to turn on and tell application Caffeine to turn off -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48521 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl
nilssohn;587203 Wrote: Hi, I am using Server Power Control Plugin v20100115.005818 in Squeezebox Server 7.5.1 under Ubuntu 10.10 (and before 09.04). It works fine, doing what I ask it to do: After 60 minutes without player activity it suspends the server. Therefore I'm using the feature Monitor idle Players. All further settings are set to default. Unfortunately the plugin suspends the server in any case I wonder if there is a solution in Ubuntu similar to what I use in Mac OS X. I use a little program (I suppose one could write one's own program) that overrides my Mac's power management by simulating mouse movement. And then I use SvrPower Control to run this program while my SB is active and to turn it off when idle. -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48521 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl
ASenna04;583929 Wrote: OK, help me here. What did I do wrong? Find attached the log of my Terminal actions to setup SvrPowerControl. Did you in fact do anything wrong? Or did the plugin do anything wrong? It may be that trying to make a plugin that works across different operating systems generates spurious error messages. I say this because things like chown work on files and folders, and the message not a directory may be no more than a warning. Are the relevant files mentioned in the logs present in /usr/local/sbin (/usr is normally invisible, but can be reached using the Go menu in the Finder)? Does the plugin work? -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48521 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Beta version of SvrPowerControl
Should the custom commands work on the Radio? I have gone to the Server Power Control item on my Home Page, and selected a command. SPC reports that it will run the command in 15 seconds, and then reports that it has run the command. But the command is not actually run on my Mac. I take it that the automatic action on not-idle is not intended to be carried out, and that one has to choose from the menu. Or is that supposed to work, but just failing in the same way that the items chosen from the menu are failing? -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48521 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
