RE: About SMTP Auth with Mysql

2009-12-01 Thread Vahriç Muhtaryan
Hello, One more info, maybe we can solve the source of the problem When I use related syntax sql_hostnames: (212.58.4.247:3306,212.58.4.245:3306) I got related error and next server are queried. interesting, looks like sasl or postfix I don't know which one but they care about : Nov 23

Re: About SMTP Auth with Mysql

2009-12-01 Thread Patrick Ben Koetter
Vahriç, * Vahriç Muhtaryan vah...@doruk.net.tr: One more info, maybe we can solve the source of the problem When I use related syntax sql_hostnames: (212.58.4.247:3306,212.58.4.245:3306) I got related error and next server are queried. interesting, looks like sasl or postfix I don't

AW: AW: postfix - postgrey - lost connection after RSET

2009-12-01 Thread Braun Björn
Thanks so far, the funny thing about the sending Mailserver is, that the MX for the domain in question is: forward : mail.bbb.com - ddd.dd.ddd.70 reverse : ddd.dd.ddd.70 - mail.bbb.com BUT the mail is delivered via ddd.dd.ddd.66 Might it be a problem of wrong NATing on their side? Thanks

Re: Bounce a particular recipient address with specified reject message

2009-12-01 Thread Charles Marcus
On 11/30/2009, techlist06 (techlis...@msws.org) wrote: So, if they click on reply in their client, the reply message should be sent to maillist_nore...@mydomain.com. My end accepts it (through spam filters), but then rejects the address with my custom reject message via my new access table

Do i need any secure channel, if i'm using postfix to receive email only?

2009-12-01 Thread Arora, Sumit
Hi folks, I'm using postfix for just receiving emails from network, do I need to enable TLS or anything else for building up a secure channel. I guess all this is required in case of my email clients connecting to my email server. Thanks Regards, Sumit Arora IPG RD Hub, Gurgaon

Re: Do i need any secure channel, if i'm using postfix to receive email only?

2009-12-01 Thread Eero Volotinen
Quoting Arora, Sumit sumit.ar...@hp.com: Hi folks, I'm using postfix for just receiving emails from network, do I need to enable TLS or anything else for building up a secure channel. I guess all this is required in case of my email clients connecting to my email server. Yes, enable

OT: need some advice as to distro

2009-12-01 Thread John
Sorry to bring this here, but we are having trouble setting up a Postfix/dovecot mail system. Background: We are a bunch of retirees, so cost is a factor in any decision. We all have IT experience, some of going back decades, however the world of Linux and its software is new to us all. We used

RE: Bounce a particular recipient address with specified reject message

2009-12-01 Thread techlist06
You are NOT 'rejecting', you are ACCEPTING, then BOUNCING, which you should never do if you can possibly help it. Reject it at smtp time. Why waste system resources scanning messages you will later bounce? I understand your point. Thank you for correcting my syntax. FWIW, this will only

OT: need some advice as to distro

2009-12-01 Thread John
Sorry to bring this here, but we are having trouble setting up a Postfix/dovecot mail system. Background: We are a bunch of retirees, so cost is a factor in any decision. We all have IT experience, some of going back decades, however the world of Linux and its software is new to us all. We used

Re: OT: need some advice as to distro

2009-12-01 Thread Eero Volotinen
Centos 5.4 - while it looks like a good choice, there has been some political infighting going on recently which makes us a little nervous about its future. In addition we have found that a number of the core packages we wish to use are out of date (postfix, dovecot, amavisd-new among them).

Re: OT: need some advice as to distro

2009-12-01 Thread Eero Volotinen
Eero Volotinen wrote: Centos 5.4 - while it looks like a good choice, there has been some political infighting going on recently which makes us a little nervous about its future. In addition we have found that a number of the core packages we wish to use are out of date (postfix, dovecot,

Re: OT: need some advice as to distro

2009-12-01 Thread Thomas Harold
On 12/1/2009 9:09 AM, John wrote: Fedora - a little too dynamic for use as a server. This is to be expected as it is a development system which I don't think is aimed at a production like environment, plus the latest release seems very desktop oriented. FC supposedly changes too much. I might

Re: OT: need some advice as to distro

2009-12-01 Thread John Peach
On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:30:36 +0200 Eero Volotinen eero.voloti...@iki.fi wrote: Centos 5.4 - while it looks like a good choice, there has been some political infighting going on recently which makes us a little nervous about its future. In addition we have found that a number of the core

Re: OT: need some advice as to distro

2009-12-01 Thread Brian Mathis
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:39 AM, John Peach post...@johnpeach.com wrote: On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:30:36 +0200 Eero Volotinen eero.voloti...@iki.fi wrote: Centos 5.4 - while it looks like a good choice, there has been some political infighting going on recently which makes us a little nervous

Re: OT: need some advice as to distro

2009-12-01 Thread Terry Carmen
Centos 5.4 - while it looks like a good choice, there has been some political infighting going on recently which makes us a little nervous about its future. In addition we have found that a number of the core packages we wish to use are out of date (postfix, dovecot, amavisd-new among them).

What Is Causing This Failure

2009-12-01 Thread Carlos Williams
I am getting a report from someone on my network that they are getting delivery failures when attempting to send an email from my Postfix server to the remote mail server. I see the message stuck on my Postfix servers queue: CB87E778055 1337 Mon Nov 30 08:59:15 tprem...@iamghost.com

Re: OT: need some advice as to distro

2009-12-01 Thread Brian Evans - Postfix List
On 12/1/2009 9:09 AM, John wrote: Sorry to bring this here, but we are having trouble setting up a Postfix/dovecot mail system. Background: We are a bunch of retirees, so cost is a factor in any decision. We all have IT experience, some of going back decades, however the world of Linux and

Re: What Is Causing This Failure

2009-12-01 Thread Eero Volotinen
Carlos Williams wrote: CB87E778055 1337 Mon Nov 30 08:59:15 tprem...@iamghost.com (connect to a.mx.premore.net[198.186.193.20]: No route to host) However my mail server wont send to this destination address and I have no idea why. Can someone tell me how I can better

Re: What Is Causing This Failure

2009-12-01 Thread erol blakely
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 10:03:21AM -0500, Carlos Williams wrote: CB87E778055 1337 Mon Nov 30 08:59:15 tprem...@iamghost.com (connect to a.mx.premore.net[198.186.193.20]: No route to host) b...@premore.net Looks like more of a

Re: What Is Causing This Failure

2009-12-01 Thread Martijn de Munnik
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 10:03 -0500, Carlos Williams wrote: I am getting a report from someone on my network that they are getting delivery failures when attempting to send an email from my Postfix server to the remote mail server. I see the message stuck on my Postfix servers queue:

Re: What Is Causing This Failure

2009-12-01 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Carlos Williams carlosw...@gmail.com: I am getting a report from someone on my network that they are getting delivery failures when attempting to send an email from my Postfix server to the remote mail server. I see the message stuck on my Postfix servers queue: CB87E778055 1337 Mon

Re: What Is Causing This Failure

2009-12-01 Thread Evan Platt
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 10:03:21 -0500, you wrote: I am getting a report from someone on my network that they are getting delivery failures when attempting to send an email from my Postfix server to the remote mail server. I see the message stuck on my Postfix servers queue: CB87E778055 1337 Mon

Re: What Is Causing This Failure

2009-12-01 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Evan Platt e...@espphotography.com: Unless I'm misreading and misunderstanding your logs # telnet 198.186.193.20 25 Trying 198.186.193.20... telnet: connect to address 198.186.193.20: Operation timed out telnet: Unable to connect to remote host The mail server on that IP isn't

Re: What Is Causing This Failure

2009-12-01 Thread Evan Platt
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 16:13:02 +0100, you wrote: # telnet 198.186.193.20 25 Trying 198.186.193.20... Connected to 198.186.193.20. Escape character is '^]'. 220 share.docforge.org ESMTP Postfix D'oh... Forgot which machine I was connected to.I tried it on the one that has port 25 blocked by the ISP.

Re: OT: need some advice as to distro

2009-12-01 Thread Terry L. Inzauro
John wrote: Sorry to bring this here, but we are having trouble setting up a Postfix/dovecot mail system. Background: We are a bunch of retirees, so cost is a factor in any decision. We all have IT experience, some of going back decades, however the world of Linux and its software is new

Re: What Is Causing This Failure

2009-12-01 Thread Carlos Williams
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Ralf Hildebrandt ralf.hildebra...@charite.de wrote: Works OK. What does tracroute 198.186.193.20 return? # traceroute 198.186.193.20 traceroute to 198.186.193.20 (198.186.193.20), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets ... snip ...  4  zr-pot1-te0-0-0-3.x-win.dfn.de

Re: OT: need some advice as to distro

2009-12-01 Thread Charles Marcus
On 12/1/2009 10:08 AM, Brian Evans - Postfix List wrote: soapbox I personally use Gentoo for all my Linux needs. I wasn't going to say anything, but I'll add a 'me too' here. I've been using Gentoo only for our in house servers since 2005. They've all been through 2 major GCC version updates,

Re: What Is Causing This Failure

2009-12-01 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Carlos Williams carlosw...@gmail.com:  25  dns5.docforge.org (198.186.193.20)  4.241 ms  1.685 ms  0.271 ms I am unable to connect via Telnet so it appears to be a network / ISP issue. car...@tunafish:~$ telnet 198.186.193.20 25 Trying 198.186.193.20... telnet: Unable to connect to

Re: OT: need some advice as to distro

2009-12-01 Thread Eero Volotinen
Charles Marcus wrote: On 12/1/2009 10:08 AM, Brian Evans - Postfix List wrote: soapbox I personally use Gentoo for all my Linux needs. I wasn't going to say anything, but I'll add a 'me too' here. Are you really using lot of servers (like 100 pieces) with gentoo on production environment?

Re: OT: need some advice as to distro

2009-12-01 Thread John
Terry L. Inzauro wrote: John wrote: Sorry to bring this here, but we are having trouble setting up a Postfix/dovecot mail system. Background: We are a bunch of retirees, so cost is a factor in any decision. We all have IT experience, some of going back decades, however the world of

Re: OT: need some advice as to distro

2009-12-01 Thread Charles Marcus
On 12/1/2009, Eero Volotinen (eero.voloti...@iki.fi) wrote: Are you really using lot of servers (like 100 pieces) with gentoo on production environment? No, only 3 - what made you think 'our in-house servers' meant hundreds? I do know a few people who manage them in the hundreds with some

Re: What Is Causing This Failure

2009-12-01 Thread Carlos Williams
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Ralf Hildebrandt ralf.hildebra...@charite.de wrote: What is the output of traceroute 198.186.193.20 ? I get no results from my mail server: traceroute to 198.186.193.20 (198.186.193.20), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 * * * 2 * * * 3 * * * 4 * * * 5 *

Re: OT: need some advice as to distro

2009-12-01 Thread /dev/rob0
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 10:51:31AM -0500, John wrote: Terry L. Inzauro wrote: When it comes down to it, the best distro is the one you know how to use. I would start with a distro that you are most comfortable with and know how to use the best. +1 ... I started on Slackware and have not

Re: OT: need some advice as to distro

2009-12-01 Thread Mark Blackman
On 01/12/2009 14:09, John wrote: Sorry to bring this here, but we are having trouble setting up a Postfix/dovecot mail system. Background: We are a bunch of retirees, so cost is a factor in any decision. We all have IT experience, some of going back decades, however the world of Linux and its

Re: What Is Causing This Failure

2009-12-01 Thread Frog
Perhaps your mail server is on a DNSBL? Regards Frog - Original Message - From: Carlos Williams carlosw...@gmail.com To: postfix-users@postfix.org Sent: Tuesday, 1 December, 2009 4:05:25 PM Subject: Re: What Is Causing This Failure On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Ralf Hildebrandt

Re: What Is Causing This Failure

2009-12-01 Thread Martijn de Munnik
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 16:27 +, Frog wrote: Perhaps your mail server is on a DNSBL? Regards Frog Nope, this is a problem at the ip level, routing. This is not a postfix or mail/smtp issue. - Original Message - From: Carlos Williams carlosw...@gmail.com To:

Re: What Is Causing This Failure

2009-12-01 Thread Terry L. Inzauro
Frog wrote: Perhaps your mail server is on a DNSBL? Regards Frog - Original Message - From: Carlos Williams carlosw...@gmail.com To: postfix-users@postfix.org Sent: Tuesday, 1 December, 2009 4:05:25 PM Subject: Re: What Is Causing This Failure On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:43

Re: Do i need any secure channel, if i'm using postfix to receive email only?

2009-12-01 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 12:37:47PM +, Arora, Sumit wrote: I'm using postfix for just receiving emails from network, do I need to enable TLS or anything else for building up a secure channel. I guess all this is required in case of my email clients connecting to my email server. Your

Re: What Is Causing This Failure

2009-12-01 Thread Carlos Williams
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Terry L. Inzauro tinza...@ha-solutions.net wrote: why all the off topic posts today? I suspected this to be Postfix or Mail related so I posted here. It was determined with the help of the list it was not a MTA issue. Simple as that! Sorry for any

Re: A question about Postfix and virus scanning

2009-12-01 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Ali Majdzadeh put forth on 12/1/2009 12:25 AM: Dear friends, Thanks for this nice discussion. Actually, as a project, we are going to deliver an e-mail architecture which supports over 100 users. We use Postfix, courier-imap, amavisd-new, spamassassin and clamav and of course the tools

Re: A question about Postfix and virus scanning

2009-12-01 Thread Ali Majdzadeh
Stan, Thank you a lot for all these valuable information. Your reply proved that there exists some circumstances where nothing can help but experience. Thanks again. Regarding the points which had mentioned in your mail, I would like to ask a question concerning what Wietse proposed. Does the

Re: OT: need some advice as to distro

2009-12-01 Thread Joe
John Peach wrote: On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:30:36 +0200 Eero Volotinen eero.voloti...@iki.fi wrote: Centos 5.4 - while it looks like a good choice, there has been some political infighting going on recently which makes us a little nervous about its future. In addition we have found that a

Re: What Is Causing This Failure

2009-12-01 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Carlos Williams put forth on 12/1/2009 9:32 AM: I am unable to connect via Telnet so it appears to be a network / ISP issue. car...@tunafish:~$ telnet 198.186.193.20 25 Trying 198.186.193.20... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: No route to host Definitely a network problem between

Re: A question about Postfix and virus scanning

2009-12-01 Thread Wietse Venema
Ali Majdzadeh: question concerning what Wietse proposed. Does the usage of milter help? I mean, is the milter architecture considered as a way to kill spam load _before_ piping inbound connections to AS/AV content filter daemons? Or, Milter is a way to inspect or update message content without

Re: OT: need some advice as to distro

2009-12-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 09:39:06 -0500 John Peach post...@johnpeach.com wrote: On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:30:36 +0200 Eero Volotinen eero.voloti...@iki.fi wrote: Centos 5.4 - while it looks like a good choice, there has been some political infighting going on recently which makes us a little

Re: A question about Postfix and virus scanning

2009-12-01 Thread Ali Majdzadeh
Wietse, Hi Thanks for your reply. I recall that I had read about another filtering option available in Postfix which was called smtpd_proxy_filter (if I spell it correctly) and which filtered messages before queuing. So, is there any difference between the so-called method and using Milter? Thanks

Re: A question about Postfix and virus scanning

2009-12-01 Thread Wietse Venema
Ali Majdzadeh: Wietse, Hi Thanks for your reply. I recall that I had read about another filtering option available in Postfix which was called smtpd_proxy_filter (if I spell it correctly) and which filtered messages before queuing. So, is there any difference between the so-called method and

Re: A question about Postfix and virus scanning

2009-12-01 Thread Ali Majdzadeh
Wietse, Thanks for all these useful points. I will inform the list about the results of our tests regarding the issue. Warm Regards Ali Majdzadeh Kohbanani 2009/12/1 Wietse Venema wie...@porcupine.org Ali Majdzadeh: Wietse, Hi Thanks for your reply. I recall that I had read about another

Re: OT: need some advice as to distro

2009-12-01 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Scott Kitterman put forth on 12/1/2009 12:22 PM: I am in favor of Ubuntu Server for Postfix related uses. Postfix is the standard MTA, so it's use is well documented, pretty much everything you might want to add on to Postfix is packaged so there's no need to hunt down external

Re: OT: need some advice as to distro

2009-12-01 Thread Joe
Stan Hoeppner wrote: Half your argument is based on Debian features. Which are also, therefore, ubuntu features. Why not just use Debian then, instead of Ubuntu? Because enterprise support is available for ubuntu, and also, if someone is familiar with ubuntu desktop already it makes sense

Re: OT: need some advice as to distro

2009-12-01 Thread Brian Mathis
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Joe j...@tmsusa.com wrote: Stan Hoeppner wrote: I've been a Debian (non-GUI) user for almost 10 years.  I've never touched Ubuntu, or any other distro.  Debian has always come through for my server needs, so I've never considered anything else.  Convince me why

Re: OT: need some advice as to distro

2009-12-01 Thread Udo Rader
Brian Mathis wrote: On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Joe j...@tmsusa.com wrote: Stan Hoeppner wrote: I've been a Debian (non-GUI) user for almost 10 years. I've never touched Ubuntu, or any other distro. Debian has always come through for my server needs, so I've never considered anything

Re: A question about Postfix and virus scanning

2009-12-01 Thread Wietse Venema
Stan Hoeppner: Wietse Venema put forth on 12/1/2009 1:20 PM: If your performance is inadequate, I suggest that you do a detailed system performance analysis to find out if the limit is CPU, memory, file I/O or perhaps some trivial DNS configuration problem. That may be difficult for

Re: OT: need some advice as to distro

2009-12-01 Thread Joe
Udo Rader wrote: Brian Mathis wrote: On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Joe j...@tmsusa.com wrote: Stan Hoeppner wrote: I've been a Debian (non-GUI) user for almost 10 years. I've never touched Ubuntu, or any other distro. Debian has always come through for my server needs, so I've never

Re: A question about Postfix and virus scanning

2009-12-01 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Wietse Venema put forth on 12/1/2009 3:47 PM: Surely, mail is injected via SMTP, and therefore, the Postfix SMTP server will attempt to lookup the client hostname and IP address; since they are using SMTP-based content filters, that is another source of name service lookups. All this

Re: A question about Postfix and virus scanning

2009-12-01 Thread Wietse Venema
Stan Hoeppner: Wietse Venema put forth on 12/1/2009 3:47 PM: Surely, mail is injected via SMTP, and therefore, the Postfix SMTP server will attempt to lookup the client hostname and IP address; since they are using SMTP-based content filters, that is another source of name service

Re: A question about Postfix and virus scanning

2009-12-01 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Wietse Venema put forth on 12/1/2009 6:17 PM: I would not be so quick to dismiss DNS-related problems out of hand in scenarios that involve synthetic email messages. Ok, I follow you now Wietse. Given the inbound mail load he's generating, the DNS resolvers in his test environment may not be

Re: OT: need some advice as to distro

2009-12-01 Thread Bryan Irvine
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 2:20 PM, John j...@klam.ca wrote: Thank you all for your input, having looked at the responses and discussed amongst ourselves and as I am the grunt doing the work, we will probably go with Centos. Some of our reasoning was, it close to Fedora so we have some

postscreen dnsblog problem

2009-12-01 Thread Len Conrad
freebsd 7.2 mail_version = 2.7-20091008 out of 6 postscreen machines, I've got one that every 20 or 30 minutes just halts, port 25 is dead (several monit agents see it dead), then it starts off by itself after a few minutes, dumping a bunch of these in maillog: warning: postscreen_dnsbl_query:

Re: OT: need some advice as to distro

2009-12-01 Thread David Koski
On Tuesday 01 December 2009, Terry L. Inzauro wrote: snip Personally, Debian Stable (currently Lenny) is my Linux of choice for production system. Package management via apt is second to none and everything is very well documented with a willing and able community for support. Why restate

Re: OT: need some advice as to distro

2009-12-01 Thread Stan Hoeppner
David Koski put forth on 12/1/2009 10:45 PM: For example, doing a distribution upgrade has rendered a system unbootable and made me boot from CD to fix it. I have never had a problem upgrading Debian. I have even upgraded several remotely without a problem. Try upgrading RH 3 to 4 to 5

Re: OT: need some advice as to distro

2009-12-01 Thread David Koski
On Tuesday 01 December 2009, Stan Hoeppner wrote: BTW, don't you really mean? # apt-get purge exim # apt-get install postfix Last I tried I couldn't remove the MTA without replacement. The onliner apt-get --purge install postfix installs postfix and purges exim without complaining about

Re: OT: need some advice as to distro

2009-12-01 Thread Eero Volotinen
Quoting David Koski da...@kosmosisland.com: On Tuesday 01 December 2009, Stan Hoeppner wrote: BTW, don't you really mean? # apt-get purge exim # apt-get install postfix Last I tried I couldn't remove the MTA without replacement. The onliner apt-get --purge install postfix installs postfix

Re: OT: need some advice as to distro

2009-12-01 Thread Seth Mattinen
David Koski wrote: On Tuesday 01 December 2009, Stan Hoeppner wrote: BTW, don't you really mean? # apt-get purge exim # apt-get install postfix Last I tried I couldn't remove the MTA without replacement. The onliner apt-get --purge install postfix installs postfix and purges exim

Re: OT: need some advice as to distro

2009-12-01 Thread d . hill
Quoting Eero Volotinen eero.voloti...@iki.fi: Quoting David Koski da...@kosmosisland.com: On Tuesday 01 December 2009, Stan Hoeppner wrote: BTW, don't you really mean? # apt-get purge exim # apt-get install postfix Last I tried I couldn't remove the MTA without replacement. The onliner