Ian -
I have waited well over a week here now, thinking about whether or not I
should even respond to your little tirade.
I have walked away from responding to this some 20 or 30 times or more,
during that period.
Ultimately I believe that I cannot let such a vitriolic personal attack go
Hi All,
I want to apply a matched-length constraint to the signals
connected to the bus. In the Protel Design Rule dialog, there are mainly 2
parameters to specify, one is Tolerance (whose purpose is obvious) and the
other is Connection style. In connection style there are three options
Well ADEEL,
I am afraid that to actually have the system (99SE, don't
know about DXP) match these leghts it will not do it,
I was told any auto-router function, and this is one
will not ahere to these rules. I tried it a few times where
there was plenty of room to match the lengths
of a delay
To match the net length you have to prolong the shorter tracks. This usually is
done by laying them out as a meander. These parameters define the shape of the
meander.
I think this is more a feature for the future, because this shall tell the
autorouter how to match net length. The current
I am afraid that to actually have the system (99SE, don't
know about DXP) match these leghts it will not do it,
Isn't this what the menu item 'Tools-Equalize Net Lengths' for? I haven't
used it except to play back when it was first introduced in 99 or 99SE,
but it adds segments to get the
Ian,
the variations in sizing are based upon the actual package
dimensioning. Some packages vary their actual heel to toe measure, some pin
spacings vary slightly with body sizes, etc, etc.. So you simple match the
package dimensions as closely as possible.
I know that some may
Pat,
First to answer your question, of course SMT Plus is charging for
their services. Whether it is giving courses on land pattern design, selling
land patterns or any other aspect of their business. So the short answer is
no. What do you want for nothing? Even the IPC doesn't give away
$900 !!! Wow!!! (new subscriber price) That's 2 car payments, or 400+
McDonalds' 1/4-pounders, or 1800 movie tickets to the local bargain
afternoon matinee theater. Just for some SMT footprints!
Best regards,
Ivan Baggett
Bagotronix Inc.
website: www.bagotronix.com
- Original Message
The winner of a useless personal argument is the one who first realizes it
is useless and who therefore walks away from it, leaving the other(s)
raving before an audience which no longer includes this winner (or at least
he gives little or no sign of still being present).
One who is most
I paid $300 for SMT Plus's SMT High Density Design and DFM Book. Very few footprints
but lots of good advice for getting started in SMT design and creating footprints.
Jeff Adolphs
-Original Message-
From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 13,
Hi Tim,
Change your net identifier scope to sheet symbols/port before generating a
new spice (hierarchical) netlist.
If that doesn't work, make the four subsheet schematics with different file
names (change the reference in the sheet symbols in the main sheet, also),
change the netnames/ports to
IME, The different connection styles apply only to the auto router. You
can (I've used this before) select several nets (make a class for them)
and have P99SE make them the same length using the
Tools-EqualizeNetLengths
They don't look as nice as if you do it by hand and then just DRC the
rule,
$900
I just checked the website and the 3 license version is only $695.
What are you guys reading?
LPMS Software 2002 Edition LPMS, Single User Version (Permits 3 users max,
1 at a time) $695.00
It has definitely gone up in the last few years, we paid approx.
$450 - $475 a
This, Annual Subscription Pricing, from their website:
3) Own 10th or older (book or LPMS software) or new customer
$895.00
Best regards,
Ivan Baggett
Bagotronix Inc.
website: www.bagotronix.com
- Original Message -
From: Brad Velander [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
Glad I could help.
At 12:29 PM 8/13/2002 -0600, you wrote:
Thank you Harry. I went to this site and found a link where they are
sending me the printed version of what they call CIRCUIT PACKAGES DATA
HANDBOOK, free of charge.
Patrick Westfeldt, Jr.
snip
Hello,
We bought a couple special-deal copies of Protel 99SE from
Altium here recently, and they've been in-house now for a
a while. I believe part of the deal on the cheapness was
that it didn't upgrade automatically to DXP, and maybe not
at all. Beyond recommending to management to buy
Hi, Nick. Yes, I did it ok all on one sheet. I was trying to see if I
could setup the hierarchical schematic so that both pcb and simulations
could be from one unified set of schematics. Maybe just dropping in the
sources and loads at the connectors. Hehe, then I saw how slowly it ran
four
the reg will come in the mail
i would say you probably have a full licensed copy that was part of the
deal you got
Dennis Saputelli
Robison Michael R CNIN wrote:
Hello,
We bought a couple special-deal copies of Protel 99SE from
Altium here recently, and they've been in-house now for a
Hi Mike:
If you purchased the SE99 seats less than a year ago, you got 1 year free
ATS with each seat, which means you get a free upgrade to DXP. I did the
same and just got my copy of DXP too.
The CD Codes will come in the mail separately. I got mine the day after the
software came. I did
Hi All,
Just downloaded an interesting Linux trial disk from a group doing a Distro
called Knoppix.
The distro is supplied as a downloadable ISO image which is burnt onto a
bootable CD. It allows you to run up a KDE/debian system on any machine
which has a CD slot not disrupt the existing
At 02:36 PM 8/13/2002 -0500, Robison Michael R CNIN wrote:
We bought a couple special-deal copies of Protel 99SE from
Altium here recently, and they've been in-house now for a
a while. I believe part of the deal on the cheapness was
that it didn't upgrade automatically to DXP, and maybe not
at
Matched length works very well.
To implement the equalize netlengths feature, you have to define a netclass with
the nets you want to equalize.
Then go to Design Rules/High Speed/Matched Length and set the attributes.
Depending
on how much room on the board you have, set the amplitude and gap
Robison Michael R CNIN wrote:
We bought a couple special-deal copies of Protel 99SE from
Altium here recently, and they've been in-house now for a
a while. I believe part of the deal on the cheapness was
that it didn't upgrade automatically to DXP, and maybe not
I notice that there
Well Protel sent me a flyer for P99SE training this week! - of course it had the
usual stuff
about places being limited so book early. Yeah sure.
Robison Michael R CNIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 08/14/2002 05:36:41 AM
Please respond to Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Oh for heavens's sake, this is a forum not a bloody soap-box for rants and
tirades. Take your petty squabbles somewhere else.
Dave Sanders
-Original Message-
From: JaMi Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:02 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Cc: JaMi Smith
Subject:
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