Re: [PEDA] OT: Low price on 21" monitors

2003-12-02 Thread Brian Guralnick
> warranty. (leave it on for the first 30 days!) AT FULL CONTRAST with a lot of white on your screen. Burn in the flyback. I bet the refurbished units probably had blown flybacks replaced. _ Brian Guralnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Tony Karavidas" <[EM

Re: [PEDA] OT: Low price on 21" monitors

2003-12-02 Thread Darren
Hi Tony, Leaving it on is being nice, let get hot and cold, every day.. Darren Moore > -Original Message- > From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > I've been buying a few things from this vendor, so now I'm on > the sucker > list. (they are legit, I opt-in on this one.

Re: [PEDA] OT: Low price on 21" monitors

2003-12-02 Thread Tony Karavidas
I've been buying a few things from this vendor, so now I'm on the sucker list. (they are legit, I opt-in on this one. I recently purchased a NEW 160GB hard drive for my TIVO from them for $75!) Since Protel s/w is so much more usable on a big screen, I thought I'd share this current item. It's a r

Re: [PEDA] Multilayer connecting to throughhole pads

2003-12-02 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 05:34 PM 12/2/2003, you wrote: Now, I have several throughhole pads that should connect to a midlayer. They appear not to connect though. Beside the 4 90degree sectors, that form a heat resistance, also a ring can bee seen, obviously isolating the hole. The vias only have the sectors, not the ri

Re: [PEDA] P99SE refuses to make sheet entry / port connections.

2003-12-02 Thread Ian Wilson
At 04:24 PM 27/11/2003 +0100, you wrote: HELP! I have been going over this for the better part of the day now, and cannot find the solution. On the processor schematic I have the busses [COL0..COL2] and [R\O\W\0..R\O\W\7] with pullups on COL0..COL2. The COL bus is connected to an input port, t

Re: [PEDA] Possible Email Delivery Problem

2003-12-02 Thread Forum Member
Thanks to all those that responded to the pervious post. It is no longer necessary to reply if you haven't already done so. From the response it appears that more than a few members were not receiving mail and that resetting the ISP did resolve the problem. Those that wish to catch up with miss

[PEDA] DXP questions on PEDA (Ex:Highlighting DRC violations in DXP?)

2003-12-02 Thread Ian Wilson
At 02:22 PM 2/12/2003 -0800, you wrote: At 01:57 PM 12/2/2003, Tony Karavidas wrote: Why are people asking DXP questions on the PEDA list? You'll probably get more answers on the DXP list. Tony, this list is intended for discussion of all EDA technical questions including those of DXP. Not all

[PEDA] Multilayer connecting to throughhole pads

2003-12-02 Thread Rene Tschaggelar
Thanks Edi, the split planes appear to have been accepted, at least halfway. Now, I have several throughhole pads that should connect to a midlayer. They appear not to connect though. Beside the 4 90degree sectors, that form a heat resistance, also a ring can bee seen, obviously isolating the hole.

Re: [PEDA] Highlighting DRC violations in DXP?

2003-12-02 Thread Forum Administrator
At 01:57 PM 12/2/2003, Tony Karavidas wrote: Why are people asking DXP questions on the PEDA list? You'll probably get more answers on the DXP list. Tony, this list is intended for discussion of all EDA technical questions including those of DXP. Not all users of DXP are a member of the Protel

Re: [PEDA] Midlayers tracks and keepouts

2003-12-02 Thread Edi Im Hof
At 17:36 02.12.2003 +0100, you wrote: I'm the first time trying to do a multilayer. I've set up the middle two layers as GND and VCC. Both layers are split. I therefore placed tracks through them. Use "Design|Split Planes..." and add the splits there. They're defined like polygons. Common tracks

[PEDA] Testpoint report.ipc

2003-12-02 Thread Mike Ingle
For the first time I sent along the testpoint report.ipc. Even after carefully re-generating my cam files, my boardhouse (Sierra Proto Express) claimed that my gerbers didn't match. What is up? How can I verify prior top sending my files? Is the testpoint report useful? Mike PS what has ha

[PEDA] P99SE Sch to DOS Schematic?

2003-12-02 Thread Terry Creer
Hi All, Is this conversion possible?. I think our version of Protel DOS schematic is version 3.1... Cheers, Terry Creer Printed Circuit Designer Clipsal Integrated Systems Pty. Ltd. Phone: (08) 8440 0500 (Ext. 448) Fax: (08) 8346 0380 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Disclaimer: The informat

[PEDA] Happy Thanksgiving

2003-12-02 Thread JaMi Smith
Happy Thanksgiving to all that observe it. JaMi * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * *

Re: [PEDA] Highlighting DRC violations in DXP?

2003-12-02 Thread Tony Karavidas
The violations detail is also included right on the Messages panel but it doesn't show the specific highlight as does the PCB panel Jerry noted. That would be a nice addition. Why are people asking DXP questions on the PEDA list? You'll probably get more answers on the DXP list. -Original M

[PEDA] P99SE refuses to make sheet entry / port connections.

2003-12-02 Thread Leo Potjewijd
HELP! I have been going over this for the better part of the day now, and cannot find the solution. On the processor schematic I have the busses [COL0..COL2] and [R\O\W\0..R\O\W\7] with pullups on COL0..COL2. The COL bus is connected to an input port, the ROW bus to an output port. All busses

[PEDA] Power supply pins

2003-12-02 Thread Laurie Biddulph
I hate having power supply pins as part of schematic component symbols (especially opamps and logic gate chips). I prefer to create an additional `component part' in the chip purely for the power supply pins. This makes it easier to assign decoupling components to the chip as well as reduce clut

[PEDA] GND Planes

2003-12-02 Thread Laurie Biddulph
If a double-sided pcb has a very large DIGITAL GND net and a small ANALOG GND net would you connect the two GROUND planes created on the two layers to the DGND or AGND? Connecting DGND would mean better current handling and thus presumably reduce digital noise but would the large plane then act

[PEDA] Protel viewer?

2003-12-02 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Hello, all: I've got to give a preliminary PCB placement to a customer. Of course PDF can be made, but is there a free Protel viewer that he can use? If so, what is it, and where do I get it? Thanks, and happy Thanksgiving to you all. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.ba

[PEDA] Ports, nets, Offsheet Connectors in DXP

2003-12-02 Thread Protel Hell
Hi, I am confused about these, if I have a multisheet schematic will net names in one sheet connect to net names in another sheet without using ports or offsheet connectors? To me a horizontal design is the same as flat design, there is no hierarchy, which to me is the same as vertical, does Pr

Re: [PEDA] component pin dialogue

2003-12-02 Thread Protel Hell
sorry, is there another list, room, forum, whatever for DXP? didn't realise this was for 99 From: "Tony Karavidas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [PEDA] component pin dialogue Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 1

Re: [PEDA] Exciting news for all users of Protel DXP and nVisage DXP

2003-12-02 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:42 PM 11/20/2003, JaMi Smith wrote: What I perceive from my original reading of the announcement is that Protel / Altium is going to drop DXP and nVisage DXP (DXPnV), and replace it with a new product, Protel 2004 (P04), which will be given to all current DXP and DXPnV (collectively "DXP(nV)"

Re: [PEDA] pick and place report

2003-12-02 Thread John A. Ross [Design]
> -Original Message- > From: Mike Ingle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 4:11 PM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: [PEDA] pick and place report > > Hi all, > > This job will be my first where a pick and place machine is > used. I have some confusion regarding

Re: [PEDA] Global track width changes

2003-12-02 Thread Protel Hell
In DXP, is there a way to open drill top (.gd1) (.gg1) outputs? when I double click one it asks me what I want to open it with, or if it go to file-open it is then opened as a text file, I want to view it just like the other gerber file outputs thank you _

Re: [PEDA] FW: Global track width changes

2003-12-02 Thread Protel Hell
if you went through the rrouble of telling us you found the answer the least you could have done is let us know the answer, I am a rookie DXP user and would like to know how to do that too how do you change multiple tracks? From: "William Dager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Protel EDA Forum"

Re: [PEDA] Fw: Exciting news for all users of Protel DXP and nVisage DXP

2003-12-02 Thread Jon Elson
Bagotronix Tech Support wrote: Has anyone ever successfully used Protel's PLD/FPGA features with a vendor's (Xilinx, Altera, Lattice, etc.) toolsuite and gotten usable results? Was it worth the hassle? I ask because it is usually better to use the vendor's fitting, place, and route software th

Re: [PEDA] Exciting news for all users of Protel DXP and nVisage DXP

2003-12-02 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> Leave the lawyers out of it. They are the cause of 1/2 the world's problems > anyway. The only thing lawyers will do is drain money from Altium, and we'll > be paying for it with more expensive products. Literally true. I have a saying: "There are only 2 reasons you need a lawyer. #1 is if yo

Re: [PEDA] Tango to Protel

2003-12-02 Thread Tony Karavidas
I thought Protel 2.8 could convert this version. Can anyone verify? -Original Message- From: Christopher Rhomberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 8:34 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] Tango to Protel Hi Everyone, I got a design from someone else who s

Re: [PEDA] Global track width changes

2003-12-02 Thread Wojciech Oborski
William, Steve and others I'm afraid that there was some confusion in this situation. And that confusion was caused by original writer. Because there was no other information in the original post specifying the version of software, I assumed (and so did Steve, maybe others as well) that the questi

[PEDA] To mask or not to mask...

2003-12-02 Thread Tom Robinson
...that is the question: I'm making a footprint of a 128 pin qfp 0.4mm pitch. I have seen people use a pad that is .070 x .010. Now with those numbers it would give me approx 2 mil's of LPI in between pads and approx 2 mil's guard from edge of pad to start of LPI mask in the web between the pads

Re: [PEDA] Exciting news for all users of Protel DXP and nVisage DXP

2003-12-02 Thread JaMi Smith
Ian, I just knew that you could not speak to the issue. You have only confirmed what was fairly obvious before, that you really are on the Protel / Altium side of the fence. You contribute greatly to the forum when there are small problems to be solved, but you are nowhere to be found when an "i

Re: [PEDA] Highlighting DRC violations in DXP?

2003-12-02 Thread Fisher, Jerry
In the PCB panel select rules from the drop down, select a rule class, double click on a violation. A single click will highlight it the double click opens the familiar details window. Jerry Fisher C.I.D. Assoc. Elec. Engineer Pelco 10 corporate Dr. Orangeburg N.Y. 10962 (845)398-8700 [EMAIL PR

[PEDA] Hilighting DRC violations in DXP?

2003-12-02 Thread Matt Polak
Hey all, Really silly question here, but how exactly do I go about highlighting design rules violations in the PCB editor in DXP? This seems to function a little differently than in 99SE... I can generate the DRC okay, and see all of the violations display in the MESSAGES window, and click

Re: [PEDA] Possible Email Delivery Problem

2003-12-02 Thread Christopher Coley
Sorry I sent that from the wrong E-Mail account. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the subscribed E-Mail -Original Message- From: Christopher Coley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:52 AM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: RE: [PEDA] Possible Email Delivery Problem I did no

[PEDA] Possible Email Delivery Problem

2003-12-02 Thread Forum Administrator
We have had a couple reports of from members of this forum that they stopped receiving forum mail last week. Although our systems seem to be operating normally, the timing roughly coincides with a change we made to the ISP for outgoing mail. We've temporarily switched back to the old ISP to see

[PEDA] Midlayers tracks and keepouts

2003-12-02 Thread Rene Tschaggelar
I'm the first time trying to do a multilayer. I've set up the middle two layers as GND and VCC. Both layers are split. I therefore placed tracks through them. Common tracks on all layers were placed as keepout. Upon a printout, I found that middle layer don't have keepouts. Is it therefore true tha