Re: patch combination: qmtp + outgoingip

2001-05-19 Thread Jim Steele
Just FYI in case anyone was losing sleep over not being able to use the QMTP patch and the outgoing IP patche to qmail-remote.c at the same time. Well, and also to prevent my previous post from being an archive orphan. It turns out that the additional qmail_remote.c code for QMTP totally

patch combination: qmtp + outgoingip

2001-05-18 Thread Jim Steele
Does anyone have a qmail-remote.c that has been patched for qmtp AND outgoingip? I must have botched the patch combination, since I now get: qmail-remote2001-05-18 17:21:26.339297500 delivery 1: deferral: qmail-remote_crashed./ Thank goodness I backed up the binaries and use RCS on the source

Re: qmtp

2001-05-05 Thread Frank Tegtmeyer
Hey just curious is anyone implementing qmtp presently? Yes, without problems. But also without big impact :) Regards, Frank

qmtp

2001-05-04 Thread Steve Hagerman
Hey just curious is anyone implementing qmtp presently? I thought about giving it a whirl but wouldnt do much good if im the only one. Administrator Steve Hagerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.advancedisp.com/ Phone: 864-220-1594

Re: qmtp

2001-05-04 Thread Henning Brauer
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 01:58:26PM -0400, Steve Hagerman wrote: Hey just curious is anyone implementing qmtp presently? Meaning the modified qmail-remote, running qmail-qmtpd and annoucing this via MXPS? We do it for everthing hosted here. I thought about giving it a whirl but wouldnt do much

Re: qmtp

2001-05-04 Thread Charles Cazabon
Steve Hagerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey just curious is anyone implementing qmtp presently? Yes, many people on this list are using Dan's MXPS proposal. Russell Nelson and others have QMTP patches for qmail. See qmail.org for details. Charles

Re: qmtp

2001-05-04 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 01:58:26PM -0400, Steve Hagerman wrote: Hey just curious is anyone implementing qmtp presently? I thought about giving it a whirl but wouldnt do much good if im the only one. I provide lists that deliver over qmtp if your MX records are MXPS-compliant. Go to http

Re: qmtp

2001-05-04 Thread Johan Almqvist
* Charles Cazabon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010504 20:42]: Steve Hagerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey just curious is anyone implementing qmtp presently? Yes, many people on this list are using Dan's MXPS proposal. Russell Nelson and others have QMTP patches for qmail. See qmail.org for details

QMTP

2001-03-22 Thread Federico Edelman Anaya
Hi! I'm running Qmail-1.03 (big-dns.patch, big-concurrency.patch, badmailfrom.patch, AND qmail-1.03-qmtpc.patch), daemontools, ucspi-tcp on testing servers. I add on my DNS: INMX12800mail.myserver.com. ; for SMTP service INMX12801mail.myserver.com. ; for QMTP service

Re: QMTP

2001-03-22 Thread Dan Peterson
Federico Edelman Anaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: INMX12800mail.myserver.com. ; for SMTP service INMX12801mail.myserver.com. ; for QMTP service I'm running under the supervise script the qmtpd service ... when I send a mail to myserver.com, the qmail-remote

Re: QMTP

2001-03-22 Thread Chris Johnson
. ; for SMTP service INMX12801mail.myserver.com. ; for QMTP service I'm running under the supervise script the qmtpd service ... when I send a mail to myserver.com, the qmail-remote communicate to SMTP instead of QMTP :( Read http://cr.yp.to/proto/mxps.txt. You want to remove the 12800

qmtp

2001-03-08 Thread Kurth Bemis
im looking for usage stats on qmtp. it sounds like something that i'm interested in however i wonder how many hosts use it ~kurth

Re: qmtp

2001-03-08 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 03:17:30PM -0500, Kurth Bemis wrote: im looking for usage stats on qmtp. it sounds like something that i'm interested in however i wonder how many hosts use it Few. Join us :) http://www.almqvist.net/johan/qmail/ for all the patches you need. Greetz, Peter.

QMTP/mail distribution

2001-03-04 Thread Daniel Kelley
hi all- i currently have a setup where one central mail server receives all mail for a primary domain, then redistributes it to subdomains (eg satellite offices) as necessary. this is currently done with fastforward and SMTP. i'd like to try out QMTP, and use this to forward

Re: QMTP/mail distribution

2001-03-04 Thread Chris Johnson
to try out QMTP, and use this to forward mail from the central server out to the satellites. is there an easy way to cofigure the cenral server to know who it can/should speak QMTP with? it seems very straightforward to receive QMTP messages, but i'm not sure if there's a great way to decide

Re: QMTP/mail distribution

2001-03-04 Thread Peter van Dijk
with fastforward and SMTP. i'd like to try out QMTP, and use this to forward mail from the central server out to the satellites. is there an easy way to cofigure the cenral server to know who it can/should speak QMTP with? it seems very straightforward to receive QMTP messages, but i'm not sure if there's

QMTP/MXPS on cr.yp.to?

2001-02-16 Thread Frank Tegtmeyer
Because of having been offline for six weeks in December/January I totally missed the QMTP/MXPS discussions. After some reading in the archive I installed Johan Almqvists patch to enable QMTP through MXPS (I had running qmtpd for a long while). I just checked the logs and found

Re: QMTP/MXPS on cr.yp.to?

2001-02-16 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 10:28:33AM +0100, Frank Tegtmeyer wrote: Because of having been offline for six weeks in December/January I totally missed the QMTP/MXPS discussions. After some reading in the archive I installed Johan Almqvists patch to enable QMTP through MXPS (I had running qmtpd

QMTP

2001-02-16 Thread Federico Edelman Anaya
Where can I get help about qmail with qmtp?

Re: QMTP

2001-02-16 Thread Johan Almqvist
* Federico Edelman Anaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010216 12:29]: Where can I get help about qmail with qmtp? http://www.almqvist.net/johan/qmail/qmail-qmtpc.html -Johan -- Johan Almqvist http://www.almqvist.net/johan/qmail/ PGP signature

Re: QMTP

2001-02-16 Thread Frank Tegtmeyer
Where can I get help about qmail with qmtp? Describe your problem, then someone may be able to help you. If you want to run qmail-qmtpd - that's not different from qmail-smtpd. If you want to use one of the qmtp-patches to qmail-remote you have to get them first. Look at www.qmail.org

Re: QMTP

2001-02-16 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 04:42:04PM +0100, Johan Almqvist wrote: * Federico Edelman Anaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010216 12:29]: Where can I get help about qmail with qmtp? http://www.almqvist.net/johan/qmail/qmail-qmtpc.html And when you have that set up, go to http://www.dataloss.nl/services

Re: QMTP

2001-02-16 Thread Federico Edelman Anaya
-tcp-0.88 The system run under supervise script ( service/qmail , service/qmail-smtpd , service/qmail-qmtpd) Well.. I sent a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to verify my configuration .. but I am under a firewall. I received a mail from this server. My server 1 send a mails to qmtp service. But, when

Re: QMTP

2001-02-16 Thread Frank Tegtmeyer
But.. I don't understand how qmail work with control/mailroutes.. I can't get help for this implementation.. This is documented in the updated man page for qmail-remote. but I am under a firewall. I received a mail from this server. My server 1 send a mails to qmtp service. But, when I sent

Re: QMTP

2001-02-16 Thread Federico Edelman Anaya
. but I am under a firewall. I received a mail from this server. My server 1 send a mails to qmtp service. But, when I sent a mail from Server 1 to Server 2, the mail was sent to SMTP service .. I don't know what I do because I don't know exactly work the qmail qmtp service .. or mailroutes

Re: QMTP

2001-02-16 Thread Frank Tegtmeyer
Yeah.. the port 209 is firewalled .. but.. the server1 and server2 are locals machines .. How do you route between them? If you used smtproutes before you have to use mailroutes now. server1.example.com:[192.168.1.1]:209:qmtp and server2.example.com:[192.168.1.2]:209:qmtp at the other

Re: QMTP

2001-02-16 Thread Federico Edelman Anaya
U.. I'd like the Qmail send to QMTP if the remote host have this service .. but if the remote host don't have running de QMTP service .. my sever send to SMTP service .. :) Is this way the qmail work? Frank Tegtmeyer wrote: Yeah.. the port 209 is firewalled .. but.. the server1

Re: QMTP

2001-02-16 Thread Frank Tegtmeyer
U.. I'd like the Qmail send to QMTP if the remote host have this service .. but if the remote host don't have running de QMTP service .. my sever send to SMTP service .. :) Is this way the qmail work? No, this is only the fallback of the qmtp-patch. The actual patch implementation

Re: qmtp and spammers.

2001-02-06 Thread Pavel Kankovsky
On Tue, 6 Feb 2001, Sam Trenholme wrote: On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Faried Nawaz wrote: With QMTP, you get C: message and sender and recipients sent before the server says anything, tying up the connection for 30 seconds and wasting bandwidth S: 7:Dgo away, This also wastes

qmtp and spammers.

2001-02-01 Thread Faried Nawaz
QMTP may be faster than SMTP for sending mail, but it seems less powerful in our spam-happy Internet era. How would one go about rejecting incoming QMTP mail? The protocol suggests that there is no way of writing some equivalent of rblsmtpd. The shipped qmail-qmtpd.c in qmail 1.03 doesn't

Re: qmtp and spammers.

2001-02-01 Thread Vincent Schonau
Faried Nawaz writes: QMTP may be faster than SMTP for sending mail, but it seems less powerful in our spam-happy Internet era. I think you mean Dan's implementation is 'less powerful'; it has nothing to do with the protocol. Has anyone seen spam enter their network via qmail-qmtpd

Re: qmtp and spammers.

2001-02-01 Thread Faried Nawaz
Vincent Schonau wrote: I think you mean Dan's implementation is 'less powerful'; it has nothing to do with the protocol. With SMTP, you get S: 220 hi, it's me! C: mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] S: 551 go away With QMTP, you get C: message and sender and recipients sent before the server

QMTP protocol spec question

2001-02-01 Thread David L. Nicol
the QMTP spec includes: 8. Examples A client opens a connection and sends the concatenation of the following strings: "246:" 0a "Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 0);" " 29 Jul 1996 09:36:40 -" 0a "D

Re: QMTP protocol spec question

2001-02-01 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 05:23:07PM -0600, David L. Nicol wrote: [snip] The server sends the following response, indicating acceptance: "21:Kok 838640135 qp 1390," "21:Kok 838640135 qp 1391," "21:Kok 838640135 qp 1391," The client closes the connection.

Re: QMTP protocol spec question

2001-02-01 Thread Dan Peterson
Peter van Dijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two recipients, two responses. Looks like a bug in the document. There are three recipients across two messages. The first has one, the second has two. -- Dan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://danp.net

Re: qmtp and spammers.

2001-01-31 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 03:08:32AM +0459, Faried Nawaz wrote: QMTP may be faster than SMTP for sending mail, but it seems less powerful in our spam-happy Internet era. How would one go about rejecting incoming QMTP mail? The protocol suggests that there is no way of writing some equivalent

Re: QMTP MX-question

2001-01-16 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 05:16:45AM -, D. J. Bernstein wrote: Johan Almqvist writes: Quoting http://cr.yp.to/proto/mxps.txt Don't believe everything you read. :-) My original design made QMTP-only mail exchangers easier but made QMTP+SMTP mail exchangers harder. This was a bad

Re: QMTP MX-question

2001-01-16 Thread Russell Nelson
D. J. Bernstein writes: Johan Almqvist writes: Quoting http://cr.yp.to/proto/mxps.txt Don't believe everything you read. :-) My original design made QMTP-only mail exchangers easier but made QMTP+SMTP mail exchangers harder. This was a bad tradeoff. Clients should interpret

Re: QMTP MX-question

2001-01-15 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 03:05:16PM +0100, Jurjen Oskam wrote: [snip] However, when I query for crynwr.com, I get: crynwr.com 86354 MX 12801 pdam.crynwr.com crynwr.com 86354 MX 12816 pdam.crynwr.com This set of MX records compensates for a bug in Russell's QMTP implementation (that has

Re: QMTP MX-question

2001-01-15 Thread D. J. Bernstein
Johan Almqvist writes: Quoting http://cr.yp.to/proto/mxps.txt Don't believe everything you read. :-) My original design made QMTP-only mail exchangers easier but made QMTP+SMTP mail exchangers harder. This was a bad tradeoff. Clients should interpret a QMTP priority as ``try QMTP, then try

QMTP MX-question

2001-01-14 Thread Jurjen Oskam
Situation: The primary MX for quadpro.stupendous.org is capable of accepting mail via QMTP, and regularly does so. Of course, it is also capable of accepting mail via SMTP. The 'secondary' MX is only capable of doing SMTP. What are the correct MX-records I should create? I made

Re: QMTP MX-question

2001-01-14 Thread Johan Almqvist
E.ORG IN MX 12816 C.EXAMPLE.ORG [...] A sender with a message for B.EXAMPLE.ORG will try A.EXAMPLE.ORG by QMTP, then C.EXAMPLE.ORG by SMTP. If it does not support QMTP, it may try SMTP instead of QMTP, or it may skip A.EXAMPLE.ORG." Note the "...or it may skip...

Re: QMTP MX-question

2001-01-14 Thread Jurjen Oskam
l try A.EXAMPLE.ORG by QMTP, then C.EXAMPLE.ORG by SMTP. If it does not support QMTP, it may try SMTP instead of QMTP, or it may skip A.EXAMPLE.ORG." Note the "...or it may skip..." part. I've read that page a few times myself. Since I'm not a native English speaker, I'm having

Re: QMTP MX-question

2001-01-14 Thread Henning Brauer
On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 03:38:40PM +0100, Jurjen Oskam wrote: But I'm interested in the case where an MXPS-aware QMTP-capable sender tries to deliver a message to quadpro.stupendous.org (with MX records set according to [1], but finds port 209 (QMTP) unavailable. Will such a sender

Re: QMTP running on sources.redhat.com

2001-01-11 Thread Johan Almqvist
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 11:38:23PM -0500, Russell Nelson wrote: Now, who wants to work on cqmtp (compressed quick mail transport protocol)? :) No reason why you couldn't run gzip on the whole chunk before sending it off. Save the children! Save Dave and Virginia!

QMTP sublist

2001-01-10 Thread Peter van Dijk
QMTP-delivering sublist up and running. Send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to use it. The host does SMTP too, if you feel like just using a closer sublist and not even care about QMTP. Will create more sublists as people show demand. Greetz, Peter.

QMTP running on sources.redhat.com

2001-01-10 Thread Ian Lance Taylor
I installed QMTP on sources.redhat.com. sources.redhat.com, formerly sourceware.cygnus.com, is the host of a number of free software projects, including gcc, gdb, and the GNU binutils. It sends out over 100,000 e-mail messages per day. The system has received exactly one mail message via QMTP

Re: QMTP running on sources.redhat.com

2001-01-10 Thread Russell Nelson
Ian Lance Taylor writes: Russ, thanks for writing the QMTP patches. Now, when are you going to start using QMTP to send out FSB? :) Good point. Okay, the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list, the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list, the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list, and the mgetty list are all being delivered via qmtpd

Re: Suggestion regarding qmtp patch to qmail-remote.c

2001-01-09 Thread Johan Almqvist
: success: 192.203.178.8_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_250_ok_978720863_qp_22711/ Current qmtp: success: qmtp:_ok_978720977_qp_22786/All_received_okay_by_192.203.178.8/ Suggested qmtp: success: qmtp:192.203.178.8_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_ok_978720977_qp_22786/ Then a triv

QMTP over SMTP connection

2001-01-09 Thread Tullio Andreatta
I started writing a qmail version who use a new SMTP syntax to start a QMTP conversation over a SMTP protocol: S 220 ready C HELO mail.test S 250 mail.test C PROTO QMTP After this command, a standard smtp server returns a 5xx reply: sendmail: 500 Command unrecognized: "PROTO QMTP"

Re: Suggestion regarding qmtp patch to qmail-remote.c

2001-01-09 Thread Henning Brauer
Am Dienstag, 9. Januar 2001 11:36 schrieb Johan Almqvist: Do we want smtp to say: success: smtp:192.203.178.8_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_250_ok_978720863_qp_ 22711/ I'd not change the this, it makes smtp log entries incompatible with stock qmail. Even if it's more logical. --

Re: QMTP over SMTP connection

2001-01-09 Thread Henning Brauer
Am Donnerstag, 1. Januar 1970 00:59 schrieb Tullio Andreatta: I started writing a qmail version who use a new SMTP syntax to start a QMTP conversation over a SMTP protocol: May be it's a good idea, but the task is too big for me. Someone interested? It's no good idea to start a SMTP

Re: Suggestion regarding qmtp patch to qmail-remote.c

2001-01-09 Thread Johan Almqvist
' in other parts of the patch, so it could here too. However, the log will be incompatible anyhow, because right now, an eventual analysis tool will just not see the qmtp deliveries at all. To fix that, my patch minus the protocol information must be used, and maybe (depending on the log analysis tool

Re: Suggestion regarding qmtp patch to qmail-remote.c

2001-01-09 Thread Henning Brauer
Am Dienstag, 9. Januar 2001 13:13 schrieb Johan Almqvist: However, the log will be incompatible anyhow, because right now, an eventual analysis tool will just not see the qmtp deliveries at all. To fix that, my patch minus the protocol information must be used, and maybe (depending

Getting this list via QMTP

2001-01-09 Thread Johan Almqvist
Hi! I'm very keen on getting this list via qmtp, as to not abuse the SMTP gateway I'm currently using. Unless we can get DJB to replace his qmail-remote, I can see one solution: someone "close" to the cr.yp.to machines puts up a sublist and uses the patched qmail-remote. Any offer

RE: control/mailroutes (was: QMTP autoreply tester)

2001-01-09 Thread Dave Sill
Greg Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It also seems to me that one of the design traits of qmail is simplicity of config files - I can't find the reference, but I thought somewhere DJB said that having to parse complex config files is a cause of problems. See:

Re: QMTP over SMTP connection

2001-01-09 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 12:15:16PM +0100, Tullio Andreatta wrote: [snip] May be it's a good idea, but the task is too big for me. It's not a good idea. - by the time your method has started QMTP, all or most of the latency that QMTP tries to avoid has been introduced by the negotiation

Re: Getting this list via QMTP

2001-01-09 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 08:11:30PM +0100, Johan Almqvist wrote: Hi! I'm very keen on getting this list via qmtp, as to not abuse the SMTP gateway I'm currently using. Unless we can get DJB to replace his qmail-remote, I can see one solution: someone "close" to the cr.yp.to mac

Re: Getting this list via QMTP

2001-01-09 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 12:13:24AM +0100, Peter van Dijk wrote: [snip] Doesn't even need to be close, just well-connected. I'd be happy to do that on my server (to which I will move my qmail.org mirror soon, too). Everything seems to be up and running now, *but* list.cr.yp.to refuses to

Re: control/mailroutes (was: QMTP autoreply tester)

2001-01-07 Thread Johan Almqvist
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 10:28:26PM -0700, Andy Bradford wrote: Thus said Ricardo Cerqueira on Sun, 07 Jan 2001 01:50:16 GMT: Hmmm... OK, disregard my previous mail. Personally, I'd rather have one file for SMTP, and another for QMTP. Does anyone else here agree with me? I'd really like

RE: control/mailroutes (was: QMTP autoreply tester)

2001-01-07 Thread Greg Owen
Andy Bradford said: Thus said Ricardo Cerqueira on Sun, 07 Jan 2001 01:50:16 GMT: Personally, I'd rather have one file for SMTP, and another for QMTP. Does anyone else here agree with me? This seems more logical to me as it allows finer control over the entire system

Re: control/mailroutes (was: QMTP autoreply tester)

2001-01-07 Thread richard
On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, Andy Bradford wrote: Thus said Ricardo Cerqueira on Sun, 07 Jan 2001 01:50:16 GMT: Hmmm... OK, disregard my previous mail. Personally, I'd rather have one file for SMTP, and another for QMTP. Does anyone else here agree with me? This seems more logical to me

QMTP autoreply tester

2001-01-06 Thread Johan Almqvist
Hi! Having caught the qmtp virus, I set up a service for qmtp testing - hey, it'd been a lot easier for me to set this up if there'd been such a service. If anyone dinks around with it too much, it will disappear without further notice. The following four addresses exist: [EMAIL PROTECTED

control/mailroutes (was: QMTP autoreply tester)

2001-01-06 Thread Johan Almqvist
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 01:59:18PM -0700, Andy Bradford wrote: Not to be picky, but why not call the file qmtproutes instead of mailroutes? :-) Because it contains both SMTP and QMTP routes. I figured that would be a better idea, and so did other people. Quoting Alex: I like the mailroutes

Re: QMTP autoreply tester

2001-01-06 Thread Johan Almqvist
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 04:12:11PM -0600, Timothy Legant wrote: The following four addresses exist: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] I couldn't get a correct response from the first one - just a bounce from MAILER-DAEMON with the qmail-send message "Sorry, no mailbox here by that

Re: control/mailroutes (was: QMTP autoreply tester)

2001-01-06 Thread Ricardo Cerqueira
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 01:56:47AM +0100, Johan Almqvist wrote: On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 01:59:18PM -0700, Andy Bradford wrote: Not to be picky, but why not call the file qmtproutes instead of mailroutes? :-) Because it contains both SMTP and QMTP routes. I figured that would be a better

Re: control/mailroutes (was: QMTP autoreply tester)

2001-01-06 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Ricardo Cerqueira on Sun, 07 Jan 2001 01:50:16 GMT: Hmmm... OK, disregard my previous mail. Personally, I'd rather have one file for SMTP, and another for QMTP. Does anyone else here agree with me? This seems more logical to me as it allows finer control over the entire system

Suggestion regarding qmtp patch to qmail-remote.c

2001-01-05 Thread Mark Delany
:_250_ok_978720863_qp_22711/ Current qmtp: success: qmtp:_ok_978720977_qp_22786/All_received_okay_by_192.203.178.8/ Suggested qmtp: success: qmtp:192.203.178.8_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_ok_978720977_qp_22786/ Then a triv change to the smtp output and we have parsing consistency. Regards.

Re: QMTP

2000-09-07 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 01:02:39PM +0200, Peter van Dijk wrote: [snip] It's clear that djb's talking about 0a/LF EXCEPT in line end designators (which can either be CRLF or LF). So basically every message that does not contain LFs that are not line feeds is "safe". I couldn't

Re: QMTP

2000-09-07 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
Peter van Dijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 7 September 2000 at 14:27:21 +0200 On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 01:02:39PM +0200, Peter van Dijk wrote: [snip] It's clear that djb's talking about 0a/LF EXCEPT in line end designators (which can either be CRLF or LF). So basically every

Re: QMTP

2000-09-07 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 11:58:04AM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: [snip] The line terminator (conventionally a linefeed on Unix) isn't a part of the line in this definition, I think. At least, taking it that way makes it all come together. Then it ends up saying that the message is safe so

Re: QMTP

2000-09-06 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 02:06:00AM +0200, Claus Färber wrote: Austad, Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb/wrote: I am glancing over qmtp.txt and it's mostly quite clear to me, except the stuff about 'safe messages'. If none of the bytes in a safe message can be 0a, when the hell *do* we see a

QMTP

2000-09-05 Thread Austad, Jay
Where would I find detailed specs on the QMTP protocol? I've found some stuff at http://cr.yp.to/proto/qmtp.txt, but I need more. We're writing a little piece of code that's going to sit on a couple of hundred Win2000 webservers that can talk QMTP to our qmail box for faster delivery. Users

Re: QMTP

2000-09-05 Thread Michael T. Babcock
The code for serialmail comes with code to send via qmtp. - Original Message - From: "Austad, Jay" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 11:35 AM Subject: QMTP Where would I find detailed specs on the QMTP protocol? I've found some stu

RE: QMTP

2000-09-05 Thread Austad, Jay
: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 12:51 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: QMTP On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:35:08AM -0500, Austad, Jay wrote: Where would I find detailed specs on the QMTP protocol? I've found some stuff at http://cr.yp.to/proto/qmtp.txt, but I need more. What part

Re: QMTP

2000-09-05 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 01:47:38PM -0500, Austad, Jay wrote: I understand it fine. I just have to get as much info as possible for our developers so they can code it up. Just want to make sure they don't have to do a ton of debugging due some subtle mistake somewhere. QMTP is too simple

Re: QMTP

2000-09-05 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:35:08AM -0500, Austad, Jay wrote: Where would I find detailed specs on the QMTP protocol? I've found some stuff at http://cr.yp.to/proto/qmtp.txt, but I need more. What part of that document is unclear to you, or what don't you understand? You might want to read

Re: QMTP MX encoding

2000-07-25 Thread Michael T. Babcock
Your arguments are interesting in so far as they pertain to the use of QMTP, but my concern is more that at some point the Qmail community may want to have QMTP as RFCxyz and used as a standard feature of mail exchange. With that goal (in my mind, maybe not yours), my proposal seemed to have

Re: QMTP via EHLO type command

2000-07-25 Thread Michael T. Babcock
To make this a little more QMTP compatible, and to agree with some of Peter Norton's comments from late 1998, the sending MTA could also immediately 'transfer' the request to the QMTP by opening a new connection on the QMTP port when it 'saw' the QMTP response from the foreign SMTP MTA. It would

QMTP MX encoding

2000-07-24 Thread Michael T. Babcock
DJB mentions on his 'future of qmail' page that a way to encode that a host supports QMTP into its MX data is in the works. What method for doing so is proposed?

Re: QMTP MX encoding

2000-07-24 Thread James Raftery
On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 05:32:17PM -0400, Michael T. Babcock wrote: DJB mentions on his 'future of qmail' page that a way to encode that a host supports QMTP into its MX data is in the works. What method for doing so is proposed? http://cr.yp.to/proto/mxps.txt, I imagine. Regards, james

Re: QMTP MX encoding

2000-07-24 Thread Michael T. Babcock
will be _magic.s.* I can receive mail by SMTP _magic.q.* I can receive mail by QMTP _magic.qs.* I can receive mail by QMTP or SMTP with the possibility of future extensions such as _magic.abcdqrsz.* -X- James Raftery wrote: On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 05:32:17PM -0400, Michael T. Babcock wrote

QMTP via EHLO type command

2000-07-24 Thread Michael T. Babcock
I was wondering if it wouldn't be smart to use an extension to EHLO as a way to detect QMTP availability on an MX. I decided to check and 'QMTP' 'EHLO' only appear together 4 times. Chuck Foster seems to be the first to have asked whether it wouldn't be smart to add a "250 QMTP&qu

Re: QMTP MX encoding

2000-07-24 Thread Russell Nelson
preferences. The basic options will be I think that's a silly idea. Better to pick a "magic" MX preference, and try qmtp. If it fails, then fall back to smtp. The number of people who happen to use that preference AND who have something listening on the qmtp port is either zero now, or will b

Trying to get QMTP protocol to work....

2000-07-05 Thread Igor
I've read the information in the four page printout that covers Quick Mail Transfer Protocol (QMTP-19970201). Qmail and Qmtp has been set up on a linux machine. I can telnet into port 209 (no problems). The problem is, while writing a piece of software, I cannot "QMTP" e- mail to

QMQP and QMTP: differences ?

2000-06-23 Thread Laurent BERCOT
Hi, I'd like to know whether there are significant differences between QMQP and QMTP. I know that qmail-qmqpc is used in place of qmail-queue so mail isn't safely stored on the QMQP client, whereas a QMTP client could be used in place of qmail-remote ( I'm thinking about writing a patch

Re: QMQP and QMTP

2000-01-25 Thread Dave Sill
Brian Baquiran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the difference between QMTP and QMQP? When and where should I use them? QMTP (Quick Mail Transfer Protocol) is a modified, high-performance SMTP replacement. See http://cr.yp.to/proto/qmtp.txt. QMQP (Quick Mail Queueing Protocol) is a mail queuing

QMQP and QMTP

2000-01-24 Thread Brian Baquiran
What's the difference between QMTP and QMQP? When and where should I use them? Brian -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.baquiran.com US Fax: (603) 908-0727 AIM: bbaquiran

QMTP forward program and maildir IMAP

1999-10-04 Thread nascheme
(from sendmail). The Solution: Write a small QMTP fowarding program (serialmail wasn't really what I wanted). Add the following two lines to my .qmail file: |if $HOME/bin/tcpclient my.domain 209 $HOME/bin/qmtp $SENDER neil; then exit 99; else exit 0; fi $HOME/qmtp.log 21

QMTP

1999-08-24 Thread Daniluk, Cris
Title: QMTP Are there any NT implementations of QMTP available? I'd like to drastically speed the time that it takes our MS SMTP Server to populate the qmail queue and this is one logical and probably most efficient way to do it. If there's no such thing available, are there any open source

Re: qmtp and smtp coexisting

1999-08-18 Thread Fred Lindberg
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:21:52 -0400, Daniluk, Cris wrote: We want to speed the time it takes to inject mail into the qmail queue. Currently with smtp we can only inject ~500 messages per second. To speed this up, based on the recommendation of many on the list, I want to implement QMTP

Re: QMTP suggestion

1999-04-07 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 07:40:59PM -0400, Peter C. Norton wrote: On Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 06:31:03PM -0500, Chris Garrigues wrote: netstat -a |fgrep '*:qmtp' or the low-level C equivalent. I'm not concerned with this. I'm concerned with Fred's proposal relying on the status

Re: QMTP suggestion

1999-04-07 Thread Chris Johnson
On Wed, Apr 07, 1999 at 08:53:29AM -0500, Fred Lindberg wrote: Since SMTP and QMTP are linked anyway, the advertizing of QMTP by the SMTP server could easily be linked to QMTP being up. Thus, a working smtpd with a failed qmtpd (admin forgot to start?) would not advertize QMTP. This would

Re: QMTP suggestion

1999-04-07 Thread Richard Letts
On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Peter C. Norton wrote: On Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 06:31:03PM -0500, Chris Garrigues wrote: netstat -a |fgrep '*:qmtp' or the low-level C equivalent. I'm not concerned with this. I'm concerned with Fred's proposal relying on the status of the remote smtp

Re: QMTP suggestion

1999-04-07 Thread Chris Garrigues
From: Richard Letts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:06:04 +0100 (BST) On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Peter C. Norton wrote: On Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 06:31:03PM -0500, Chris Garrigues wrote: netstat -a |fgrep '*:qmtp' or the low-level C equivalent. I'm not concerned

Re: QMTP suggestion

1999-04-07 Thread Fred Lindberg
On Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:37:48 -0400, Chris Johnson wrote: Why not just implement QMTP in qmail-smtpd? qmail-smtpd would advertise QMTP in its banner, and then the host connecting would be free to start firing away in QMTP lingo. There would never be any question of QMTP being up, since qmail-smtpd

Re: QMTP suggestion

1999-04-07 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Wed, Apr 07, 1999 at 10:37:48AM -0400, Chris Johnson wrote: On Wed, Apr 07, 1999 at 08:53:29AM -0500, Fred Lindberg wrote: Since SMTP and QMTP are linked anyway, the advertizing of QMTP by the SMTP server could easily be linked to QMTP being up. Thus, a working smtpd with a failed qmtpd

Re: QMTP suggestion

1999-04-07 Thread Peter C. Norton
On Wed, Apr 07, 1999 at 09:42:18AM +0200, Peter van Dijk wrote: Well extend it a bit to ignore qmtp in smtp banners for like one hour if qmtp turns out to be _not_ available. No big deal. Right. I just wanted to throw that into the proposal. An hour is probably a good long time. -Peter

QMTP suggestion

1999-04-06 Thread Fred Lindberg
Instead of MX magic, would it be possible to use a local cache to keep track of QMTP-capable hosts? QMTP is most useful for hosts that we talk to often and [with multi-recipient protocols] with smarthosts, etc. Thus, it should be possible to use SMTP by default, recognize from the banner

Re: QMTP suggestion

1999-04-06 Thread Peter C. Norton
On Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 05:57:37PM -0500, Fred Lindberg wrote: When sending, one would look up host names in the cdb, and if QMTP-capable start a QMTP dialog. If it fails, the db can be updated with that info (it doesn't matter if it takes a while to make it to the cdb since this should

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