Wow, I show up late and there are ten thousand replies already which is too
many to read through now
My initial thought is that going from the racing platy's very upright
position all the way to a drop bar road bike is a huge jump. I have to say,
drop bars are truly the best in headwinds, but
When this question arises, regardless of the circumstances we all tend to
recommend the Riv that we have - which makes sense, since they are all
fantastic and highly versatile bikes, plus we probably bought the one that
best suited our own preconceptions.
In that light I will wholeheartedly
The only valid way to answer this is to ride them and find out if you like
it or not. There is no amount of talking about them on the internet that
can answer the question. That said, I think it's intuitive that it will
improve comfort even before swinging a leg over one for the same reason
ike you may have break-away fender tabs
> on there?
>
> John
> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 5:31:52 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> This bike is not new to most of you, but I wanted to share a proper photo
>> taken by a friend of the current configuration. The
Looks awesome, I didn't think Riv would even make a custom this 'racey'
anymore! Maybe only because you already had the custom history with them?
On Saturday 23 March 2024 at 11:30:28 UTC-7 cz...@sonic.net wrote:
> Hi Patrick -
>
> Love the Richey Micros. They are one-sided and weighted to be
ry fast and
> lively Nachess Pass EL wheelset on the other Matthews.
>
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 6:32 PM Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> ... I am going to sow the seed now that the gravel & travel platy should
>> run RH knobbies if no fenders - they are remarkably quick on pavement an
ty I agree that charging devices via dynamo hub is not worth the trouble,
expense, and risk (of damaging your devices from the variable current) when
battery bricks are very economical and super convenient. I can charge my
phone about five times over with my little battery brick that cost $40 a
The actual speed difference between a similar quality 48mm and a 42mm will
be extremely small - I wouldn't sweat it at all! Probably like 0.1 mph
difference. Most of the perceived difference is all in our heads, based on
the squish-factor and the buzz they make on pavement, neither of which
I think the front end will feel a little less unwieldy with the smaller
wheels, even if the technical wheel flop doesn't reflect this. but if it's
a concern, my vote is to sell the rack and buy something that is only as
big and heavy as you need it to be! The Simworks Obento is a wonderful
I know this has been pretty well covered by now, but I'm finally going to
add my two cents as well. I have ridden a few, but I think that anecdotes
are only going to take you so far because of the wide range of preferences
on the speed-comfort continuum. Based on your replies, I feel quite
Any 110 BCD crank like Sugino or S!lver would do the trick nicely, perhaps
a 38T and pant guard paired to a 17t (flat area) or 18t (hillier area)
White Industries freewheel
On Tuesday 5 March 2024 at 13:56:12 UTC-8 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote:
> I rode my quickbeam with a 69-70 gear inch
Even though I knew what to expect, more or less, I'm still rather blown
away by the final result. It came together so perfectly. This is an iconic
bike.
On Thursday 22 February 2024 at 17:07:02 UTC-8 Bob Ehrenbeck wrote:
> Spectacular!
>
> Excellent choice of components, and the ~20 lbs. for
I think most of us here would be happier on a Jones than a more traditional
modern MTB, but we are definitely the outliers. I agree with John's take,
unless they too are someone who puts considerable value in doing things the
simple, timeless way with lower maintenance and willingness to walk
I am glad to see the B68 back, it'll be my pick if I ever build a more
upright bike than my current options - I tend to like a pretty upright-ish
position but still like the bars just above saddle height. If I had the
space I'd totally build up a Clem with the B68, some nice high bars, and
Hey look who it is!
I thought yer bike was a 53!
On Sunday 21 January 2024 at 13:11:59 UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
> Beautiful, beautiful bike. I’ve been thinking that crank would be just
> about perfect for an Roaduno.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 21, 2024, at 3:40 PM, Brenton
I like the Wandrer goals especially because it forces one to explore their
surroundings thoroughly. I haven't set a goal specific to this, but I
should consider it. It's probably my top pick for things that are magical
about riding a bike. It's my kind of competitive.
The only goal I've
am (can't speak to
> the 650B Sam), it's pretty right on for this purpose. The thing I think
> that could be improved as a loaded tourer is the tire clearance. Being able
> to fit a 2" tire under a fender would make it outstanding. I suppose this
> would make it the de-facto "ne
e.
>>
>> - Brian
>> Lex Ky
>>
>> On Jan 11, 2024, at 10:42 PM, Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>> Word is the Sam is unchanged from previous batches, geometry-wise, which
>> is wonderful news as Sam is perfect. No plans to pick up anything this
>> y
Word is the Sam is unchanged from previous batches, geometry-wise, which is
wonderful news as Sam is perfect. No plans to pick up anything this year,
in fact it's my fourth annual "no new bikes" resolution which has failed
three times thus far.
I am a big fan of the new Susie's combination
, and
switch to a closer ratio front. 42-30 probably. This would mean not being
able to run as short of a spindle though, so big-big combo might become a
bit more cross-chainy
On Thursday 11 January 2024 at 19:10:35 UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
> Admittedly I skimmed (at best) this rather leng
SO COOL! I can't wait to see it all installed. Really love the color.
On Thursday 11 January 2024 at 17:56:52 UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
wrote:
> Big time APPROVE?! I have seen APPROVE before from Bill Lindsay but I
> don’t think there has been Big time APPROVE.
>
> This is an honor! I
Admittedly I skimmed (at best) this rather lengthy thread, but wanted to
chime in and agree with these points which have undoubtedly been made:
1. A typical triple's benefit is that it usually means a lot less front
shifting compared to a double, even though that's a bit counter-intuitive.
A
My two hypotheses are 1) the frame stiffness is perfectly matched to your
power output at optimal cadence, so you do get that energy return known as
planing and/or 2) the fit is perfectly matched to your biomechanics, which
I believe can be sensitive enough that even a bike with similar numbers
It's much harder to find good options in 38mm vs. 42mm, unfortunately.
Neither size is as popular as I'd like though!
The Rene Herse Babyshoe in endurance casing measures a little smaller than
in lighter casings; about 39.5mm on A23s for me. I will take your word that
this is too large for
I never thought I'd see the day that Leah parted with the blue Clem, but I
absolutely would have predicted that if it happened, Joe would buy it! :D
It's fun to watch its journey though different hands, in different places,
all with the common goal of making fond memories aboard the common
Nice work, Bill! Maybe it's high time for a 2024 plans and goals thread.
I'm not so much about the resolutions, but working towards some healthy and
joyful goals is a great thing.
On Thursday 4 January 2024 at 17:16:41 UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
> A couple weeks back I said:
>
> "The film
I used SPD's when I raced XC, but never enjoyed them. I ride reasonably
long distances (50 to 130 miles) and while I'm sure I'm losing a little bit
of oomph on the climbs, my knees are much happier when I can move my foot
around at will. I prefer flats for riding on slippery or sketchy stuff,
I'm late the conversation but I do this math all the time for my own
endless cycle of optimization. What I've come to appreciate lately is that
if I have less bikes, then a) each bike gets used proportionally more and
I've wrung more 'worth' out of it in the event it were ever stolen and b)
Looks great, I love the fancy tape wrap located in several spots on the
bike. Never going to have to go thirsty while on this bike, also!
On Sunday, 3 December 2023 at 16:54:20 UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
> I was very fortunate to buy this bike as a "demo" form RBW headquarters in
>
27, 2023 at 6:55:19 AM UTC-8 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>> IMO redundant gears are more of a conceptual or theoretical concern than
>> a real issue. If you’re setting up a triple, you really end up with:
>>
>> - a middle ring for the majority of your riding
>>
38/26 to 11-28 to get some smaller steps on
the back, and 38-11 is a big enough top gear for most situations
On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 1:45 PM Ted Durant wrote:
> On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 12:34:51 PM UTC-6 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
> I would echo that triples are pretty nice - not only d
This happens to me a lot, where I think I've got my bike quiver dialed
perfectly but then my needs change, and riding with new or different groups
is a prime example! It's also why my Hillborne keeps bouncing back between
drop bars and Albatross bars. I think the Homer makes perfect sense!
The "biocork" Ergons are like Laz-E-Boys for your hands. So darn
comfortable. I have multiple Ourys in the more elegant Blue Lug limited
colours but can't argue Eric's point about them still not being totally
right style-wise. Mind you, I'm running them on non-Rivs
For swept bars, the Ergon
uction I chipped off the paint around the blister and I
>>> think there's a hairline crack in the tube... I hope I'm wrong but that's
>>> sure what it looks like
>>> [image: IMG_6439.JPG]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 12:37 PM Jason Fuller
Is it just the blister on the top of the tube, or does it look wrinkled on
the sides too? Sorry, not really able to tell on my screen. If it's just
that blister on top, it could very well just be from poor paint bonding due
to debris or maybe it wasn't cleaned well enough after brazing I'd
For what it's worth, one of my riding pals runs the 700x38 Rene Herse
knobbies and they're delightful as well, so if you choose to size down to
address the issue I don't think you'll be missing out a whole lot. Plus,
that keeps the BB height, etc closer to the design values.
On Thursday, 9
I'm 5'8" with an ~81 pbh and I've decided that if I were to get a Platy
(and I do entertain the idea, although I can't do it in the foreseeable
future) I'd get a 50 because I love the way 650B wheels ride. At my (our)
height, I think either size can totally work fine. Changing the handlebar
I had missed the MARS update and good lord that looks great! The blue and
grey are stunning together
On Thursday, 19 October 2023 at 19:52:45 UTC-7 maxcr wrote:
> These are Ultradynamico Mars Race in 29x2.2” mounted on Quill rims
>
>
I did this with the Charlie Gallop - I sold it to a friend, then a few
months later after I noticed they were dragging their heels on building it
up and me feeling a hole where my Charlie once was, offered to buy it back
- which worked out. Then I rode it a few more months, realized it was
They are great bars. They were out of stock for over a year, but presently
in stock at a few retailers - I suggest buying new. I don't think it's a
bar you'll get for a bargain used anyway, and your opportunity to get it at
all is limited unfortunately.
I love mine, that's what the Bombadil
I'm late to the party, and every angle has already been discussed at
length, but I still want to shout out the RH knobbies. I'm very happy with
them, but more notably for me is that I've recommended them to some riding
buddies and then the good word spread like wildfire and now nearly all my
I love this thread because Bill Lindsay had the perfect answer right off
the bat and also predicted how it would go - over a year later and we're
still at it.
I've run the touring canti's and neo retro's in the past but as of this
moment, I have two sets of Motolites (with matching Paul
I hadn't noticed this! I liked the fillet brazed junction better too but it
definitely looked like a pain in the butt to fabricate. The new lug (old
lug - I am sure Allan's right) does have a clean and tidy look too. A
friend's Platy has a pretty noticeable blem in the brazing too, maybe
Also a big fan of the new colour, would love to see it in person. Looks
like nearly all sizes and (new) colours are still available - supply
finally caught up with demand I guess!
On Thursday, 14 September 2023 at 12:38:27 UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
> I really love the butternut color! I lean
This resonates with me because my Hillborne is the only bike I've been
absolutely certain I would never sell. Four years and 10,000km in, and this
feeling has never wavered. Every other bike I've at least had thoughts of
selling.. or have sold!
On Friday, 15 September 2023 at 08:44:27 UTC-7
;>
>>>>>>>> Grant wants folks to be able to run a double crankset and front
>>>>>>>> derailleur if they want. It's an odd duck for sure; 120mm rear spacing
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> track dropouts but a derailleur han
Interesting! I wonder if they've pivoted on what the Charlie is going to
be. Going lugged at the head tube, like the new Gus batch, is great but
losing the swoop tube would be a real shame (no offence Joe! Your custom
pulls it off better than this Charlie IMO). I would love to see it just
My take, in point form:
- Any bike is at risk of theft or vandalism in this situation, no matter
how 'perfectly suited' to the job it is.
- That said, the Clem L is definitely less attractive to thieves than a
Surly, despite being better in our eyes. Surlys are much better known.
- If you
I was hoping I could track down what I had read not long ago on some very
interesting thin-wall aluminum bikes that were produced in, I believe, the
1980s. With aluminum lugged construction if I'm recalling correctly.
Apparently they rode wonderfully and are nothing like the big-box aluminum
Eric, you've *got* to get a DAG alignment tool! The heavy steel one, avoid
the new lighter one. It's a must have for the home mechanic of fine steel
frames that do not have replaceable hangers. I use it every time the
derailleur is pulled off for any reason, or if I'm having any stubborn
that looks very good Leah! i haven't done cleaner myself. it looks like
you left enough slack at all the spots where you need it (ie for full "lock
to lock" steering and such). tail light wiring is a pain, there's really
no perfect answer. Bikes that have full-length housing have it pretty
Eric - PBP on a fixed QB, wow, nice work! I had done some 100 mile rides
on a fixed gear around the same time but nothing like that.
I would say that which Rivendell works best (and whether a Rivendell at all
is the right call) depends on your randonneuring aspirations and
priorities. I have
danielle - the Cheviot looks awesome and congrats on the Roadini purchase!
My two cents is that since the Cheviot is the longer of the two bikes, I
would transfer the Albatross to the Roadini (it's the most forward-reach of
the sweepy bars, excluding the Albastache) and put a Losco bar on the Chev
ide and a freewheel on the other, why shouldn't the freewheel be a
>>>> multigear freewheel, if the wheel's dished to allow it? Then you'd need a
>>>> frame-mounted hanger (or a derailleur-mounted add-on hanger) to mount the
>>>> "multi-cog negotiat
BUT I was still curious. If its designed to use a
>>>>>>>>> tensioner
>>>>>>>>> then why not just single speed one of their existing bikes?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Friday, July 14, 2023
The PLP interview mentioned the samples coming late this month, and the
production frames probably pushed over new years now. I have to say, when
Grant said it's essentially a singlespeed Homer, I became suddenly
interested.
On Friday, 7 July 2023 at 09:44:49 UTC-7 Edwin W wrote:
> The
As mentioned, it'll probably still be a good while - possibly over a year -
before they do go on sale. You will get lots of reminders via the
Newsletter and IG posts, Riv's been doing a lot of reminders for each frame
drop lately. But you do want to make sure you're available and your own
I am very late to this conversation, and everything has been covered
already, but I wanted to say that even though you're not "into riding
gravel" per se, I think a big ol' set of knobby tires on the Clem is an
awesome idea (something you can take multiple steps towards, starting with
48's and
GLWS max! I might have to be the second person to list a silver canti
Gallop for sale in this list (but for shorter folks) as I'm once again just
finding the bike storage situation to be too jam-packed here and there's a
lot of redundancy between the CHG and the Sam.
Great bike for those
9 AM UTC-7 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> That Crumbworks Chonk looks amazing! I’ve been thinking about it ever
>> since first seeing the photos. It’s like a mix between a Gus, a Platy, and
>> a Jones Spaceframe. So cool and lovely curves!
>>
>> On May 17, 2023, at 1:
(and yes, I picture the Crumbworks Chonk as I describe it!)
On Wednesday, 17 May 2023 at 10:48:23 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
> I really, really want it to be a mountain mixte. That would give it the
> torsional stiffness that IMO a hillibike needs while still keeping vertical
> c
I really, really want it to be a mountain mixte. That would give it the
torsional stiffness that IMO a hillibike needs while still keeping vertical
compliance, and the low standover Grant (and others!) prefer for an
off-roader. A mixte frame with 2.6" knobby tires and a nicely slacked out
Late to the conversation - great story-telling as always, and highly
relatable Leah! I have certainly been there, although maybe not entirely
by surprise in my case. I ride with friends who have very fast, lightweight
bikes and I'm never totally sure how much to blame my bike vs. my legs, but
On this topic, I have been eyeing this one from Blue Lug - I'm still not
sure if it hits your volume target but dyneema is probably the best
possible material for the job. Certainly in the "will pay extra for fancy
materials" category though.
What handlebar type are you setting it up with? If going with a bar that
uses MTB style levers such as Albatross, I would be much less concerned,
because you have much better ergonomic mechanical advantage at the lever
vs. being on the hoods of a drop bar lever. I don't believe you'll have
situation. Most road
>>>>>> brakes won't match with v brakes which means if you have a road setup vs
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> mountain setup you would need cantis or mini-v's. Since there are
>>>>>> decreasing options fo
I agree Eric, this pedal appeals to me with the large platform and pinned
construction. Also saw the Gordito frame and thought, YES this is a good
use of that tooling! I bought Allways for the Charlie (well, for the
Wombat, but) and even though their platform is fairly roomy, they feel too
Wait, the Platys are coming in silver soon? Crap, I guess good thing I just
got my Charlie back or I'd be dropping a bunch of money for that.
I'm late to the conversation, but my read is that Grant & co spend a lot
more time on color selection than is business-smart to do so, because they
for a 2024 production run. Hopefully this will
>> happen, as I'm definitely interested in one as a daily commuter to
>> complement my Clem H. The Clem is my workhorse and heavy hauler, whereas
>> the Charlie would be my "fast" commuter.
>>
>> On Sunday, April 23, 20
I've watched the video twice and will probably watch it a third time at
some point. Even though I ride almost everyday as well, I always learn
something or at least gain fresh perspective from someone else who does as
well - and Pam's insights run especially deep as someone who's put
I feel like I'm in good company in this thread! Current fleet is at six,
which I feel is excessive, but at the same time each bike stands apart from
the others in terms of function. I would like to get it back to five by the
end of the year, but this plan involves selling two bikes I love, so
My sense with Rivs is that Grant builds bikes for how he likes to ride, and
on his local terrain. That sounds selfish and limited in a sense, but I
think it's what makes the bikes so great too - they're not trying to find
some balance for all sorts of different scenarios, so they're afforded
That's interesting, I might give some a shot this spring. I get the feeling
that much colder than low 40's would be too cold for most Neoprene options
but I don't really know. Usually when it's 45+F I am pretty happy with wool
and a shell that's at least waterproof enough to keep the majority
here are bike specific ponchos that miraculously reclaim this
> experience through some technological innovations, but it was loud, wet,
> and annoying.
>
> Will
>
> On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 2:43:10 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Brian,
>>
>> Yes.. I hesitate
I suspect lots of Riv customers subscribe
> to the 'vote-with-your' dollar mentality.
>
> If anyone is holding a Riv/Grundens that would fit a 6'-2" human give me a
> shout :)
>
> Brian in Saint Louis
> On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 1:01:42 PM UTC-6 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>&
I have and use the People's Poncho - it's been getting plenty of use this
past week, in fact!
Pro's:
- Keeps you impressively dry, even in heavier rain
- Waist strap and hand loops work well to keep it in place as you ride
- Front pocket is pretty useful and has proven fully waterproof for
My instinct is that has a lot more to do with the shoes, ie not well
supported arches maybe? I found that long pedals like the MKS Monarch or
the Bubbly were a gamechanger for foot comfort vs. shorter flat pedals, but
probably because I am always riding in shoes that are objectively too soft
I need to get Laing to set up my cantis for me :) I have found V's to have
significantly more power and tend to save my hands on hillier terrain as a
result. I run Motolites on my Bombadil (and I have the canti bridge just
hanging there.. doesn't look too weird though) and while they do
It's pretty neat to see the Joe Custom in the snow... not something I ever
expected to see. I went for a ride today that was _supposed_ to become a
snow ride based on the forecast, but it was just those tiny frozen pellets
that just pummelled my eyeballs but didn't accumulate. However, since
I have one of these Swagman racks that have fender-friendly trays and then
a hook that clamps down on the top tube - and works totally fine with
step-thru frames as the hook can all the way down to the bottom if it needs
to. We use it with my partner's fendered dutch bikes and any of my bikes
Eric, finally took the time to watch the video and echo everyone's good
words! Fun build - it's clear that you've got your 'foundation' bikes in
place when building this so you're free to just have fun with it and focus
on the vision. I re-watched the Hillborne video afterwards too, which is a
The unique thing about typical Riv builds is they're surprisingly flexible
on stack and reach - of course, stack is easily adjusted by the long quill
stems to suit your fancy, but also the reach becomes much less sensitive if
you run a swept bar like an Albatross because there's enough fore-aft
There is little more satisfying than seeing how a much-loved bike has
changed over a couple years, with signs of use increasing. Really
appreciate the update - it looked great at the start, and even better now.
While I don't have any regrets with the bikes I've built over the past few
years,
Beautiful build! $4000 is not out of the question if you find the right
buyer. My first thought was $3500-3600 as what I'd want to pay - but
doesn't hurt to start higher especially if you're not motivated to sell.
I think you should keep it and ride the beans out of it :)
On Monday, 2
Sorry to hear that Jay. I've been finding that drivers are getting worse
and worse every year - less patient, more distracted, more aggressive.
Plus, cars keep getting bigger and bigger as is safety of people outside
the vehicle isn't even a consideration (what the heck, FMVSS??). I have
branch of the Baggins family in the Shire,
>>>>>>>> the Sackville-Bagginses
>>>>>>>> Bombadil: as in Tom Bombadil, a jovial character who helps the
>>>>>>>> Hobbits out of a tight spot along their journey. He may be the oldes
ott
>
> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 02:05:26 PM MST, Jason Fuller <
> jtf.ful...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Late to the party, but I wholeheartedly suggest the Nitto M137 'dirt drop'
> bar. I have the 54cm, which measures 54 at the ends but about 49-50cm at
> the hood
Late to the party, but I wholeheartedly suggest the Nitto M137 'dirt drop'
bar. I have the 54cm, which measures 54 at the ends but about 49-50cm at
the hoods. Not super long reach like a randonneur bar (which won't fit
right if you try to re-use your stem, most likely), but still has pretty
n Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 7:26:45 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> One more note that I didn't think of until I hit submit - the batch
>> differences that exist on Bombadils (and maybe Hunqapillars too) are more
>> significant than the difference between a Bomb
2022 at 16:24:22 UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
> Just catching this now, hey thanks for the shoutout Eric! And it means a
> lot that you said that about the forest photo! That was a special day,
> first ride on the rebuild after paint.
>
> I don't have nearly the historical knowledge th
t;
> The first mention I can find of the Bombadil is in RR 41, sometime in
> 2009. Excerpted pages attached. As a few members might recall I am very
> into raw frames with brass spilling out of the lugs! I know that many
> Bombadil owners have had their frames repainted like Jason Fulle
;
> Atlantis <-> Appaloosa
>
> Glorius/Wilbury -> Betty Foy/Yves Gomez -> Cheviot -> Platypus
>
>
> On Friday, December 3, 2021 at 3:13:18 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Marty - those photoshops are amazing.
>>
>> Tom - it's having the same effect
I've approached this thought experiment from every angle before. Given that
I participate in a wide range of types of cycling (brevets, errands,
commutes, multi-surface exploration, bikepacking / touring, and technical
mountain biking) it really comes down to what is the number of bikes I own
I do like that sentiment. In the spirit of avoiding being too precious to
use the bike as much as it should be, I sold the Charlie Gallop because I
finally accepted that it was basically my other Riv(s) but I was just more
willing to lock it up (within reason). It wasn't a good enough reason for
The Bombadil, despite being such a burly bike itself, has a most dainty
kickstand plate - so much so that I've removed the kickstand from that bike
just to avoid bending it and potentially damaging the chainstays in the
process. Grant recognized the shortcoming and thickened the plate in
I am quite comfortable on my Nitto Wavie bars with Ergon GC1 grips for 100+
km rides - one very good hand position can be better than several
less-than-optimal positions. Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever
experienced numbness with this setup, but I do sometimes with really long
I found that the VO 31.8 2-bolt stem tended to slip at the clamp more than
any other similar stem, so I will stick to 4-bolt clamp for the removable
faceplate style going forward personally. Moreso than traditional single
bolt stems, even!
I like VO products but have a tough time justifying
As of this moment, there are 20x 50cm, 13x 55cm and 32x 60cm available. You
can tell by how many it lets you add to cart.
Must have been a big batch! Or they're selling slowly - likely, most people
who want one got one on the last sale. I suspect there will be 60's for a
while, but the 55's
Yes good discussion! Paul, it's neat and surprising to hear from another
Knolly rider here of all places - I rode a Chilcotin (the older 26"
version) for a bunch of years! Sold it about a year ago and replaced it
with an Esker Japhy steel hardtail as a bike that was more my style, but
still
Regarding my earlier comment - I know, and fully respect, that Grant plans
to never make a disc brake bike. Which is fine - sure, it limits their
function in certain scenarios, but I do really appreciate brands that are
willing to do what they want rather than follow market trends. It's what
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