[RBW] Stolen Bleriot (San Francisco)

[Lee Chae]

Hey Riv community,

A friend had her 57cm Bleriot stolen today in the Outer Sunset in San 
Francisco. Please be on the look out for suspicious sales. Pictured as below 
but the front basket had been swapped out for a saddle sack. She’s an essential 
worker and the Bleriot is an essential get-around!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fixed gear dropouts and fenders

[Lee Chae]

Erik,

Riv sells extra SKS clips for $2.00 per
.
I use them on the rear of my fixed Quickbeam and they work as advertised
for easy wheel removals.

Cheers,
Lee
SF, CA

On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 9:09 AM Erik Wright  wrote:

> Thanks for the tips everybody. Lots of good stuff here.
>
>- Quick release clips are an interesting solution- my SKS fenders only
>came with them on the front fender, but retrofitting for the rear sounds
>like a great option
>- Phil Wood hub sounds pricey but like a solid option if/when I need
>to replace the rear wheel. What a neat design feature.
>- Altering the fender is also an interesting thought
>- removing the mounting bolts sounds like a very reasonable option and
>relatively easy given that I won't be removing the wheel very often
>
> but in the end, I'll likely take Eric's advice and just deflate the tire
> for now since that requires the least amount of investment in new hardware.
> Seems like a good temporary solution until I'm forced to make some changes
> to the bike, or if I find myself popping the back wheel off often enough
> that it becomes annoying.
>
> Thanks for all your input!
>
> Erik, Philly
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Re: [RBW] Re: Opinions on some Napa routes?

[Lee Chae]

Hi all,

Thanks, Bill, Eric and Rick for your thoughts and suggestions! It is
beautiful country up there. We took Howell Mtn Road up towards Pope Valley,
but had to turn around as we ran out of time due to breaking camp a lot
later in the morning than we had planned. Not a bad thing as we were
enjoying the camping at Bothe-Napa Valley State Park.

But, I plan to return to do that loop.

Cheers,
Lee
SF, CA

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 4:52 PM Bill Rhea  wrote:

> Hi Lee,
>
> Sounds like you'd come down St. Helena / Spring Mtn road out of the
> mountains heading into St. Helena. I would probably opt for White Cottage /
> Ink Grade instead of Howell Mtn Rd, as there's less traffic, for sure.  Old
> Howell Mountain Road is the best climb up from Silverado.  However, they've
> blocked it off at the top where it hits Howell Mountain Road so you would
> probably need to throw it over the barrier when you hit the top
> Anybody else ridden Old Howell Mountain Rd recently?
>
> If you are there another time (maybe w/o camping gear) I definitely
> suggest Mt Veeder and Dry Creek roads.  Super low traffic; I'm usually out
> there by myself!
>
> Cheers,
>
> -br
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, November 11, 2019 at 9:57:59 AM UTC-8, LeeC wrote:
>>
>> Hey RBWers, hope you are all enjoying a good fall!
>>
>> I'm thinking about doing the following ride this Saturday morning and
>> wanted to get your thoughts on how difficult, how much time, relative
>> safety and traffic conditions, etc. Note, I'll be traveling with a camping
>> load on the bike.
>>
>> I'd appreciate any input you may have on:
>>
>> 1. Bothe-Napa Valley State Park to Pope Valley via either Howell Mountain
>> Rd or White Cottage Rd + Ink Grade
>>
>> 2. Chiles and Pope Valley Rd to Lake Hennessey
>>
>> 3. Lake Hennessy down to Yountsville, likely via the Silverado Trail
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Lee
>> SF, CA
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[RBW] Opinions on some Napa routes?

[Lee Chae]

Hey RBWers, hope you are all enjoying a good fall!

I'm thinking about doing the following ride this Saturday morning and
wanted to get your thoughts on how difficult, how much time, relative
safety and traffic conditions, etc. Note, I'll be traveling with a camping
load on the bike.

I'd appreciate any input you may have on:

1. Bothe-Napa Valley State Park to Pope Valley via either Howell Mountain
Rd or White Cottage Rd + Ink Grade

2. Chiles and Pope Valley Rd to Lake Hennessey

3. Lake Hennessy down to Yountsville, likely via the Silverado Trail

Cheers,
Lee
SF, CA

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Re: [RBW] Quickbeam fixed question

[Lee Chae]

Thanks, Patrick. They are the original Mustache bars--a la Pineapple Bob!

Cheers,
Lee Chae
SF, CA, USA

On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 9:52 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Lee: I approve of your Quickbeam. Albastache?
>
> Over and out.
>
> Amen.
>
> Patrick
>
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 8:25 AM Lee Chae  wrote:
>
>> Hey Joe,
>>
>> I did the Sheldon trick on my Quickbeam with the original Suzue rear hub:
>> a fixed cog, blue loctite, and a bottom bracket lock ring. Many years of
>> commuting, errand running, occasional long day rides and overnight camping
>> trips and nary a problem. I say thumbs up.
>>
>> Gratuitous Quickbeam pic: https://flic.kr/p/oib92p
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Lee Chae
>> SF, CA, USA
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2018, at 10:32 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>
>> I've done just about every type of cycling but this, so here goes. I just
>> picked up a lovely silver Quickbeam with the stock Suzie hubs Riv used.
>> It's threaded on both sides and had one freewheel. Will a fixed cog work on
>> the other side, or does that take a specific threading? I know these wheels
>> originally came with a freewheel on either side.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> Single in Marin
>>
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Re: [RBW] Quickbeam fixed question

[Lee Chae]

Hey Joe,

I did the Sheldon trick on my Quickbeam with the original Suzue rear hub: a 
fixed cog, blue loctite, and a bottom bracket lock ring. Many years of 
commuting, errand running, occasional long day rides and overnight camping 
trips and nary a problem. I say thumbs up. 

Gratuitous Quickbeam pic: https://flic.kr/p/oib92p

Cheers,
Lee Chae
SF, CA, USA

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> 
> I've done just about every type of cycling but this, so here goes. I just 
> picked up a lovely silver Quickbeam with the stock Suzie hubs Riv used. It's 
> threaded on both sides and had one freewheel. Will a fixed cog work on the 
> other side, or does that take a specific threading? I know these wheels 
> originally came with a freewheel on either side. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Joe Bernard
> Single in Marin
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Re: [RBW] My Purple Glorious was Stolen

[Lee Chae]

Sorry to hear the bad news. You may want to post to the Stolen Bicycles Bay
Area Google Group:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/stolen-bicycles-bay-area/categories

It'll at least get a lot of local eyeballs on the lookout for you.

Best of luck,
Lee



On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 7:08 AM, Chalida  wrote:

>
> 
> Early yesterday morning (June 25) my dear purple Glorious was stolen from
> our basement in San Francisco's Mission District.  This beautiful bike has
> cream highlighting, hearts in the lugs.  When stolen had a knitted pink and
> purple cozy across the top frame tube.  Take a moment and be grateful for
> your bikes or memories!  Let us know if it's spotted, thanks.
> Chalida
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Re: [RBW] Son Edelux II connection with SV-8 Dynamo hub

[Lee Chae]

Hi David,

This is a pretty easy fix. Just tin the wires using solder and a soldering
iron a la:

http://www.instructables.com/id/Strip-and-Tin-Wires-Like-a-Pro/?ALLSTEPS

Everything will be neat and tidy and easy to work with. You can get your
solder and iron from any Radio Shack. If you get the right kind of solder
and flux, you can tin your brake and derailleur cables, too.

Lee
SF, CA



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 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-r0OaPFwBHKg/VY9gJxxt3CI/AaI/ny2K9ma7wyc/s1600/IMG-20150627-00071.jpg
 Oh man, I seemed to have botched my hasty attempt at connecting my new
 Edelux light to my new SV-8 hub... both obtained from RBW a few weeks
 back.  I'm hoping someone here on the group can advise.  What I did right
 off the bat was clip off the two plugs that were pre-installed on the ends
 of the Edelux wire.  I did that because the Edelux end plugs did not appear
 compatible with the the connector cap and cover that ultimately fits over
 the connection terminal of the SV-8.  So now I have a single end of wire
 all frayed that really doesn't want to stay in the SV-8 connection terminal
 all that well.  It the attached image, you see the connector cap and cover
 fitted onto the terminal, which snaps on and off.

 Anyone here have the same set-up, or any advice otherwise?  Thanks for
 your time.

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Re: [RBW] Bertoud Bag Decaleur Installation Update

[Lee Chae]

Hi Michael,

Regarding the white elastic loops on the Berthoud bags, you're right, they
are a bit too big. But with non-bulky loads, all you need to do is thread
one end of the loop through the main loop and everything cinches up just
right. It'll take a ride to get used to doing this while in motion.

Here are a couple pics to demonstrate:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/flickr_lee/17357997952/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/flickr_lee/17173701249/in/dateposted-public/

Best,
Lee
SF, CA

On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote:

 I finally got the new Bertoud bag and decaleur installed, and tested on my
 Ram.  Thanks again to all who offered so much good advice.  In case not
 everyone is riding for the whole weekend I want to share a few of my first
 impressions.

 I have a small Acorn Bag Rondinee bag and considered buying the larger
 version but bought the Bertoud after three failures to win the Acorn
 lottery.  (Hard to win from EST).  Each of these bags has plusses and
 minuses.  Bertoud has a slight edge on looks and Acorn on functionality.

 Pluses.  The leather trim on the Bertoud looks very nice; the large bag is
 a perfect fit on my 62 cm Ram; the stiffener, along with the added ridge
 piece provided by Boulder Bicycle gives the bag a consistent rectangular
 shape where my Acorn sags a bit at the top.  It probably holds more than I
 should put in it and my glass case rattled around inside until I stripped
 off my wind breaker and stuffed it into the bag. ( It was a gorgeous, sunny
 day in northern Vt but 55  breezy!)

 Negatives:  The white elastic loops that close the outside pockets were
 mostly the wrong size and ragged at the edges.  It ended up taking a long
 time to get the bag operational because I wanted my favorite leather worker
 to rehab it with the nice brass turnbuckles that Acorn uses.  He was at
 Disneyland with his grandchildren and when he got home he said it would be
 difficult to do it right.  Additionally, where they do have elastic,  Acorn
 uses rounded latches and black cord, both of which work better than the
 pointed metal and white elastic on the Bertoud.

 The outside rear packets on the Bertoud can't be closed, while empty, with
 the supplied elastic, which is too long to loop tightly but too short to
 try to retie.  Additionally, even though the bag is bigger those pockets
 are smaller than Acorn and also smaller than my iphone 5.

 The tan canvas of the Acorn reflects light and makes it easier to see
 inside, while the black stiffener in the Bertoud absorbs light and makes it
 hard to see things inside the bag.  I'm baffled by the persistent use of
 black interiors in so many different kinds of bags.  I always prefer a
 light interior, which makes things much more visible.

 The decaleur works fine (except the bizarre safety pin) and I installed it
 with locktite (was it Patrick who suggest that) and it held well over the
 first twenty miles of bad roads.

 I plan to replace the poor elastic ties and to get white contact paper to
 line the stiffener.

 My ideal bag would combine the Acorn's light color, nice turn buckles, and
 shoulder strap loops, with Bertoud's leather trim, square shape, size
 choices, and real availability.

 I've uploaded some photos to Flicker:
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/sets/72157653328881511

 BTW, the Ram had hammered honjos for eight years until they broke.  I
 replaced them with cream longboards but don't like them nearly as much.
 Also this was my first time publishing photos since upgrading to
 Yosemite. Qudos to Apple to for taking iPhoto, a stupid program, and making
 it even less user friendly.

 Michael



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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Bay Area frame builder

[Lee Chae]

I don't have any first-hand experience with this fellow but he may be more
open to experimenting with something new at a decent price. I've seen him
riding around my neighborhood on a pretty cool bike with sidecar.

http://www.fitzcyclez.com/word.html

Good luck!
Lee


On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Give Ed Litton a chance at your business.  Bruce Gordon is worth talking
 to as well.  He might even be nice to you!  (inside joke)

 On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:25:20 PM UTC-8, BSWP wrote:

 Well, my preferred route to a new custom touring frame fell through. Can
 any in SF Bay Area suggest great builders who do lugged steel frames? I'm
 tall enough that I don't fit most stock frames, and but also want to
 incorporate some specific design ideas that point to a custom. Things like
 Rohloff IGH with reinforced rear frame instead of bolt-on torque arm; also
 braze-on centerpulls, and internal wire routing for lighting. Nothing
 crazy... ;-)

 Thanks,

 - Andrew, Berkeley

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Re: [RBW] Stolen bike update.

[Lee Chae]

Hey Jason. What a story. I suggest you post your question here, and try to
get a hold of Jenny Oh who leads this effort and has a lot of experience
dealing with local law enforcement and local bike thieves:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/stolen-bicycles-bay-area

Good luck!


On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Jason Leach subfas...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey gang,

 I bought a road standard from another list member in 2008. It was stolen
 from my garage in 2011. This week it appeared and was sold on Ebay.  I
 have, since Tuesday, spent countless hours on the phone with ebay (empty
 promises and no help), SFPD, and San Jose Police in order to go through the
 proper channels and get my bike back (now a frame only)

 Some people have had luck in buying back their old items - I am not
 interested in that solution.

 The seller (in San Jose) has many suspicious listings (frames and parts in
 various sizes, few details) but I don't want to post that information here
 because what looks like a bicycle chop shop seller could also be someone
 who isn't intentionally selling stolen good and might just be flipping
 Craigslist bikes for extra cash.

 If anyone here happened to buy a 54cm road standard frame in blue on 7/17,
 I just ask that you wait a little bit and not pay for the frame while I
 work with SFPD to retrieve it.

 Does anyone have helpful tips to give me a better chance of success?

 Thanks
 Jason
 SF,CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: 2pm ride to China Camp

[Lee Chae]

Nice riding with all of you, and finally getting to put faces to names. I
loved that there were four Quickbeams in our group of seven. Dave, thanks
for organizing the rollout. Hope to ride with you all again.

Lee


On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 7:06 PM, DS davecst...@gmail.com wrote:

 Awesome to ride with everyone there and back, good times. Thanks for the
 intro to the tunnel route in Larkspur. And also to helping me decide that a
 QB will be the next bike. Camping with the entire crew (how many people
 were there all in all, 40?) was also very awesome. Met some really cool
 people. Made me even more glad to own a Rivendell (and live near Rivendell)!

 Agreed on the yearly summer S240. Now that I have the bike and some gear
 to do it, I would definitely like to get out for more S240's, anytime. I
 may try and do a point reyes and mt. diablo this year since I haven't
 before. Will post to the board to see who is interested when the time
 comes. If anyone goes let me know, would love to join. Same for weekend
 rides.


 On Monday, July 14, 2014 6:38:46 PM UTC-7, BSWP wrote:

 Dave, thanks for setting this one up. It was a lot of fun to ride with
 all y'all, dodging tourists and men in pink tutus, for 'bout 30 miles on
 the QB. Sunday morning, I took the Larkspur ferry home with the 9:30 crew,
 that was fun, too.

 And why wait another 20 years? Ent-MOOT should be an annual event, at
 least for one big S24O in July. Given a few more, I might get caught up on
 people's names and their bikes...

 - Andrew, Berkeley

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Re: [RBW] Link To My Entmoot Pictures

[Lee Chae]

Here are mine:

http://tinyurl.com/noobkpb

Lee

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Re: [RBW] 2pm ride to China Camp

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Hey Dave. Look for Dominic to hook up with you guys at the Ferry Building.
My friend, Tom, and I will intercept you all at Golden Gate Bridge. We'll
be there around 2:30.

Lee


On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 9:24 AM, DS davecst...@gmail.com wrote:

 For those who are joining for the 2pm ride, and in case you didn't see the
 update on the rides page on the site:

 I will be BART-ing in to SF Embarcadero a little after 1:00pm and will be
 at the Ferry Building by around 1:40, take-off at 2:00. Look for the
 single top tube green Hunqapillar, closer to the Gott's end of the Ferry
 Building (left side if looking at the front). I may need to run in for a an
 iced coffee and waffle at blue bottle before take off :)

 Slightly modified route, a few minutes/miles longer but all flat miles ;)

 https://goo.gl/maps/vV0c8
 29.3mi  1,017ft  2hr41m

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Re: [RBW] 2pm ride to China Camp

[Lee Chae]

Also, we may break off after Mill Valley and go around vs. over Camino Alto
using some side roads and the bike path tunnel thing into san rafael.


On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Lee Chae leec...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey Dave. Look for Dominic to hook up with you guys at the Ferry Building.
 My friend, Tom, and I will intercept you all at Golden Gate Bridge. We'll
 be there around 2:30.

 Lee


 On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 9:24 AM, DS davecst...@gmail.com wrote:

 For those who are joining for the 2pm ride, and in case you didn't see
 the update on the rides page on the site:

 I will be BART-ing in to SF Embarcadero a little after 1:00pm and will
 be at the Ferry Building by around 1:40, take-off at 2:00. Look for the
 single top tube green Hunqapillar, closer to the Gott's end of the Ferry
 Building (left side if looking at the front). I may need to run in for a an
 iced coffee and waffle at blue bottle before take off :)

 Slightly modified route, a few minutes/miles longer but all flat miles ;)

 https://goo.gl/maps/vV0c8
 29.3mi  1,017ft  2hr41m

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Re: [RBW] 2pm ride to China Camp

[Lee Chae]

Cool we can figure out en route. Esteban is stuck in traffic on I5 right now. 
He said not to wait around but I can update near 2pm. Dominic has my cell # 
btw. 

 On Jul 12, 2014, at 10:09 AM, c David Stein davecst...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Awesome. I'll assume you'll be at the SF side of the bridge at the base? I'm 
 not specifically tied to that route so if you know a better way after Mill 
 Valley I'm totally open to that too. 
 
 Here's my count so far:
 
 Andrew J
 
 Esteban
 
 Clayton
 
 Adam
 
 Dominic
 
 Richard and two others? May leave at 1
 
 Lee and Tom at GG @ 2:30 
 
 
 
 On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Lee Chae leec...@gmail.com wrote:
 Also, we may break off after Mill Valley and go around vs. over Camino Alto 
 using some side roads and the bike path tunnel thing into san rafael. 
 
 
 On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Lee Chae leec...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Dave. Look for Dominic to hook up with you guys at the Ferry Building. 
 My friend, Tom, and I will intercept you all at Golden Gate Bridge. We'll 
 be there around 2:30. 
 
 Lee
 
 
 On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 9:24 AM, DS davecst...@gmail.com wrote:
 For those who are joining for the 2pm ride, and in case you didn't see the 
 update on the rides page on the site:
 
 I will be BART-ing in to SF Embarcadero a little after 1:00pm and will be 
 at the Ferry Building by around 1:40, take-off at 2:00. Look for the 
 single top tube green Hunqapillar, closer to the Gott's end of the Ferry 
 Building (left side if looking at the front). I may need to run in for a 
 an iced coffee and waffle at blue bottle before take off :)
 
 Slightly modified route, a few minutes/miles longer but all flat miles ;) 
 
 https://goo.gl/maps/vV0c8
 29.3mi  1,017ft  2hr41m
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Re: [RBW] 2pm ride to China Camp

[Lee Chae]

Thanks Andrew. That's our plan, too. I'll be single speeding it and I think 
Esteban, as well. 

 On Jul 12, 2014, at 10:19 AM, BSWP ashtab...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Lomita after Mill Valley cuts across to the road along 101, up over Horse 
 Hill, then down into Corte Madera. Should be easier than Camino Alto, 
 especially for us with single gears. I'm still pushing through homework here, 
 don't wait for me at 2:00.
 
 - Andrew, Big Orange QuickBeam, Berkeley
 
 On Saturday, July 12, 2014 10:07:49 AM UTC-7, LeeC wrote:
 Also, we may break off after Mill Valley and go around vs. over Camino Alto 
 using some side roads and the bike path tunnel thing into san rafael. 
 
 
 On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Lee Chae lee...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Dave. Look for Dominic to hook up with you guys at the Ferry Building. 
 My friend, Tom, and I will intercept you all at Golden Gate Bridge. We'll 
 be there around 2:30. 
 
 Lee
 
 
 On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 9:24 AM, DS davec...@gmail.com wrote:
 For those who are joining for the 2pm ride, and in case you didn't see the 
 update on the rides page on the site:
 
 I will be BART-ing in to SF Embarcadero a little after 1:00pm and will be 
 at the Ferry Building by around 1:40, take-off at 2:00. Look for the 
 single top tube green Hunqapillar, closer to the Gott's end of the Ferry 
 Building (left side if looking at the front). I may need to run in for a 
 an iced coffee and waffle at blue bottle before take off :)
 
 Slightly modified route, a few minutes/miles longer but all flat miles ;) 
 
 https://goo.gl/maps/vV0c8
 29.3mi  1,017ft  2hr41m
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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot -- SF Bay edition

[Lee Chae]

Hi everyone. This was probably mentioned at some point over the months, but
do we have a campsite at China Camp secured for that weekend? There is a
huge one with a great big fire ring that would be perfect--if it hasn't
already been booked. The two hike and bike sites are pretty small--would
probably host about 6-8 tents total.

Looking forward to it,
Lee


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wrote:

 Here's a funny scheduling intersection

 I was talking with a cyclist yesterday and he asked if I was going to Ales
 and Trails in July - turns out that this annual fundraiser held at China
 Camp State Park (group meadow area - not where anyone will be camping) is
 scheduled for Saturday, July 12.  So, if you happen to think you see
 someone who may or may not have invented the Mountain Bike zip past you on
 the trail, you may be correct.

 More info:  http://www.alesandtrails.com/Home.html

 Also (and still plan a more comprehensive local area resource list for
 those out of town folk) if you are going to just engage in Day Use of
 the China Camp trails, there is a fee associated with access.  Those who
 pay for camping have full access for no additional $ amount, but when
 Friends of China Camp took over trail maintenance from the California State
 Parks Department (funding issues in past years in CA), they began this.
  You can pay a fee at the kiosk near the main entrance.  You can also
 purchase a year pass (runs for 365 consecutive days from purchase) for $35.
 The website now lists the day passes for $3 - which seems to have been
 reduced since I last checked.

 http://www.friendsofchinacamp.org/trail_passes.html

 More later!

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Re: [RBW] RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot -- SF Bay edition

[Lee Chae]

Hey Jim. I'll be there on Saturday with 4 friends. That'll add a Quickbeam,
2 Bleriots, a SamH, and an RB-T to the mix. We're not sure if we'll be
camping that night yet. But, even if we didn't, I'd imagine we'd hang out
at the campfire into the evening.

Best,
Lee
SF, CA


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 Here are the good Shire folk who have RSVP'ed so far, with the volunteers
 listed first. I have not listed all of the RBW staff who are attending, but
 rest assured it's a good turnout from headquarters. If your name is not on
 this list, and you plan on attending, now would be a good time to let me
 know. And if you're up for volunteering, let me know that too. Volunteer
 categories include ride leading, cooking, shuttling, campfire song leader,
 snipe hunter, etc.

   Anne Paulson
 Dave Stein
  Jeremy Till  Manny Acosta  Jim Edgar  Dustin Goodwin
 Joe Bunik
 Dan MacNamara
 Richard Holden


  Philip Wililamson  Tom Virgil  Hugh Smitham  Tony Almeida  Reid
 (reidplum)  Ryan Hankinson  Jim Warren  Doug P  Brian Hanson  Curtis
 McKenzie  David (cyclotourist)  Aaron Young  Roger Hodges  Andrew Johnson  
 Esteban
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Re: [RBW] RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot -- SF Bay edition

[Lee Chae]

My group contains one woman!


On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Oh. Hmm. It'd be nice if some more women would show up. Come on, women!
 It'll be great.


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 Here are the good Shire folk who have RSVP'ed so far, with the volunteers
 listed first. I have not listed all of the RBW staff who are attending, but
 rest assured it's a good turnout from headquarters. If your name is not on
 this list, and you plan on attending, now would be a good time to let me
 know. And if you're up for volunteering, let me know that too. Volunteer
 categories include ride leading, cooking, shuttling, campfire song leader,
 snipe hunter, etc.

   Anne Paulson
 Dave Stein
  Jeremy Till  Manny Acosta  Jim Edgar  Dustin Goodwin
 Joe Bunik
 Dan MacNamara
 Richard Holden


  Philip Wililamson  Tom Virgil  Hugh Smitham  Tony Almeida  Reid
 (reidplum)  Ryan Hankinson  Jim Warren  Doug P  Brian Hanson  Curtis
 McKenzie  David (cyclotourist)  Aaron Young  Roger Hodges  Andrew Johnson  
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Re: [RBW] Marin Camping on Entmoot's Eve (Friday Night)

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Hey Roger, both China Camp and Samuel P Taylor have hike and bike sites, first 
come first served. The SPT one is huge. You won't get turned away. The CC one 
has two small sites, but I've never been turned away. No reservations needed of 
course. 

Lee

 On Jun 20, 2014, at 7:02 AM, Roger rogerdhod...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Twas the Night Before Entmoot - or - Howdy Friday Night Campers!
 
 I’m looking to ride up into Marin from San Francisco in the early afternoon 
 of July 11. 
 
 The main China Camp reservation starts on Saturday (thanks Jim!), but I’d 
 like to camp on Friday Night with others of us attending the Riv Jamboree. I 
 don’t have a site yet (and they’re scarce) so I’d like to either join up with 
 any of us who already have a site in the area, or to quickly secure a site 
 for any of us not yet set. In a quick look, it seems Tomales Bay has sites, 
 but they’re less easy to find in Southern Marin or Angel’s Camp itself.
 
 Anyone who either already has or needs a campsite for Friday night – let’s 
 talk about it.
 
 Roger
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Function Testing - Please Ignore

[Lee Chae]

He's not the group moderator for nothing!

Lee
SF, CA

 On Jun 5, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Metin Uz uz.me...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Quickbeam all the way to the Lighthouse? Major kudos!
 
 On Thursday, June 5, 2014 11:55:30 AM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
 ... or not!
 
 Just heard from a member they were having trouble attaching an image.  Found 
 out that you need to be less than 2000 pixels on the longest end, so just 
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 thanks!
 
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Re: [RBW] Dark wine red metallic Sams coming out in July.

[Lee Chae]

I wonder if they are basing it on that maroon SimpleOne, shown here in
Russ' photostream:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/46241869@N08/4298852923/

Lee


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Unless its a joke.
 I put nothing past those jokesters at both BQ and RBW.

 But it does say on the Blug:
  This July round of Sams will be the stock blue color, but also available
 in a nice dark wine red metallic

 That would be a very cool color if it is really dark, and really metallic.
 My wife's favorite color for bikes.
 Maybe now I can convince her to get a RBW bike!
 They need to put up some pics soon so I can show the wife!!

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Re: [RBW] S-A S3X W/freewheel vs Single for Fauxbeam

[Lee Chae]

Hey Avery, you can also go single-speed but with a lower gear inches,
something around 66, like the old Schwinn single speeds. That's what I
have had on a number of bikes, including my Quickbeam.

Have fun,
Lee


On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Avery Wilson avewil...@gmail.com wrote:

 A little off-topic, because the bike being discussed isn't a Rivendell,
 but I pulled my dad's old bike out of the barn and stripped it down for
 service as a 'round town single speeder.  Since building it up, I've found
 that I'm using it way more than I thought I would!  It just feels really
 nice to be way up high and not have too many gears to fiddle with.

 Here's a Pic. https://www.flickr.com/photos/122008974@N05/14005280629/

 The frame is an REX Criterium by Araya, made with Araya 531 Tubing.  I
 don't know anything about it other than that.  It's lightweight and quick,
 and I like it, so I s'pose that's all that matters.  Its got quite a bit of
 attractive beausage.

 The frame is a 63cm C-T with a 59cm top tube.  I haven't measured the ST
 and HT angles, but I imagine they're a bit steeper than my 56cm
 Hillborne's.  My PBH is 88, and the bike actually fits quite well, though
 with little standover.  It's currently built with quite the mishmash of
 parts, most of which I had lying around from previous builds/unbuilds.

 Tech Deluxe 12cm Stem
 Cromo Albas
 V-O seatpost
 Brooks C17 Saddle
 original Sugino Mighty Comp crank 130bcd
 Silver Long reach brakes and Tektro mtb levers
 Black P45 fenders
 Berthoud saddle pouch

 Wheels - super cheap-o single wall single speed rear wheel
 Bontrager race-light front wheel left over from my racer days.

 Gearing is 42-16 Freewheel

 So, down to the real question:  Since I'm riding this bike way more than I
 thought I would, I'm looking into getting a proper wheelset for it.

 Options are Sturmey-Archer (sunrace) S3X fixed gear threespeed with a
 freewheel screwed on, or just a nicer sealed bearing single speed wheelset.

 I know there are a few S3X riders here so, how does it feel?  I mean, is
 there noticable drag or mushy-ness?  In the 3rd (direct) gear, does it feel
 the same as a good single speed?  The three speed is attractive to me,
 because I sometimes pull a trailer with my daughters with this bike, and
 sometimes 72 gear inches is a bit high..

 Or I could keep it single, but just with a nicer matching wheelset.

 Or I could build it 1x8, which I already have all the parts for.

 Mostly looking for thoughts on the S3X hub, but all other
 comments/questions are welcome of course!

 Avery



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Re: [RBW] Fuji Touring Series IV, Rivish Makeover, Phase 1

[Lee Chae]

Nice! I missed one on Craigslist for $200 (!) by an hour or so. I'm always
on the look out for one of these. Enjoy.

Lee
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On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 5:42 AM, WETH erlhous...@gmail.com wrote:

 That looks terrific.  Well done.

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[RBW] Which 700C fenders fit Mafac Racers?

[Lee Chae]

Hey everyone. I'm thinking about adding some 700C Honjo fenders to a bike
outfitted with Mafac Racer brakes. Does anyone know for sure what width
fenders will fit through them?

Thanks all!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Attractive front derailers

[Lee Chae]

I use the 440 on my Ebisu to handle a wide-range double (48/30). It's very
simple and classic looking, IMO.

Lee


On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote:


 FWIW, You will also be surprised at the capacity of double FD's with
 triple cranks .  The Shimano 440 , the double sibling of the 443 is
 available too in a 28.6 clamp .

 I used a 105 fd-5500 with a 26/44/48 crank flawlessly :)

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Re: [RBW] On-bike tools: what is your choice or favorite?

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I just posted a pic of my current set-up on Flickr:

http://tinyurl.com/n7wr3as

I usually also have a few links of spare chain in there but not sure where
I put it at the moment. My kit's been in flux as I've been switching around
bikes lately.

Best,
Lee


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 WRT to a chain tool: forgot to say that I use masterlinks on all 4
chains, which largely removes the danger of chain breaking caused by
operator error. On the 2 X my chain came apart or started knocking the rd
cage plates it was because I'd re-assembled the separated links
incorrectly. With master links there is no danger of such botched
reassembly.


 On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I like the Park MT 1. No chain tool, but I've needed a chain tool only
2X that I can remember in 50 years of riding. I've ruined cogs or
chainrings as often!

 In addition to the Park tool I carry at least 2 tubes -- containing
Stan's for the Fargo and the Ram, and in addition patch kits for the two
customs that don't have Stan's in the tubes (the Kojaks and, surprisingly,
the very skinny, light, HP 23 mm Pro Race 3s don't get nearly as many flats
as the tires on the two other bikes). And of course tire levers (Quik Stiks
where the tires are loose enough for them), tire boots, saddle cover, a
tiny little pocket knife, and on the 2 night bikes extra AAA batteries for
auxiliary lights.

 All the kit, including the small HP Lezyne for the gofast, fits into a
small saddle wedge.

 Pumps: HpXs for the Ram and '03 Riv, Lezyne minis for the Fargo and '99
gofast, though I might swap to a full size pump on the last.




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 I'm in the market for a new multi-tool for on-bike repairs and
adjustments.  I don't think I need all of the 26 or 27 items I currently
carry.  The ones I've used most have been the allen wrenches in various
sizes up to 8, the chain tool, the 10mm box wrench (I think 10, it's
whatever size adjusts the nuts on fenders), and very occasionally the flat
screwdriver.  The chain tool is a definite keeper, I've used it a number of
times to help friends (and once for myself).

 I thought there was a discussion a few months ago about on-bike tools,
but a search of the archives didn't turn up anything.
 Thanks!
 Joan



  PS -I also carry a couple of zip ties, duct tape wrapped around a
piece of cardboard (has seen various uses including to keep bandages on),
couple of cut-up segments of old tires and plastic tire levers/patch
kit/tube.  On a tour, a few other bits and pieces in case of missing bolts,
broken chain.

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Re: [RBW] Seen today in Hoian Vietnam

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I've got a lot of similar pics from a visit to Vietnam if anyone wants to
take a mental vacation. Lots of images of everyday cycling there (sorry if
this is OT):

http://tinyurl.com/n3y546z

Happy Friday!
Lee


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 Fỏr all you guys that (rightly) valúe your high quality trueing kit ...

 Riv  content - check out the spoke count

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Re: [RBW] Seen today in Hoian Vietnam

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From what I can remember, my initial reaction was that it was more the latter. 
It was sitting out front of a restaurant/bar, and I thought it was a prop for 
some reason. I wish I was back there right now to investigate the matter!

Lee

 On Apr 11, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Very interesting. Is that all wood bike a home-made transportation piece, or 
 an objet d'art?
 
 
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 I've got a lot of similar pics from a visit to Vietnam if anyone wants to 
 take a mental vacation. Lots of images of everyday cycling there (sorry if 
 this is OT):
 
 http://tinyurl.com/n3y546z
 
 Happy Friday!
 Lee
 
 
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 Riv  content - check out the spoke count
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Nanoreview, Barlow Pass 700x38C on Dyad

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Chipping in: I put the 700x32 Compass tires on a few weekends ago. Pumped them 
up to about 70-75 psi and took them on a couple of rides. I really liked the 
feel and cornering. But I was coming from a handful of years spent on Hetres, 
Lierres, B-lines, and Col de la Vies. So I was worried I was sacrificing some 
cush in trying out this whole 700c thing. This morning I let out some air to 
get them to 50 psi. Cush achieved! Glad I hadn't wasted my time cobbling 
together my first 700c bike. 

It's making me think there's a light and lively 700c sportif somewhere in my 
future.

Lee


 On Mar 22, 2014, at 9:48 PM, Rod Holland rholland1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Took my first ride on the 700cx38mm Barlow Pass Extra Light tires today, a 
 little 14-mile shakedown. They remind me, a lot, of the GB Cypres EL tires I 
 ran last year, especially the way they roll fast and beg for acceleration. 
 But the extra air volume is noticeable, and I was able to run them at 
 somewhat lower pressure. Happy!
 
 At the end of this first ride, the tires measured 36.27 mm.
 
 rod
 
 On Saturday, March 22, 2014 5:54:13 PM UTC-4, Rod Holland wrote:
 Just mounted mine: 35.4mm on Alex Adventurer rims, measured in their 
 virginal state. Will measure again after a few hundred miles. I got the 
 blackwalls, like their looks.
 
 rod
 
 On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 9:01:06 PM UTC-4, Christopher Chen wrote:
 Measures out to 34mm right now, but that might change.
 
 I'm gonna go out for a ride.
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Nanoreview, Barlow Pass 700x38C on Dyad

[Lee Chae]

I wouldn't worry too much just yet. Rim width will play a part, but as
Chris alluded to, they'll stretch out some. I have the 700x32mm Compass
tires and they went from ~30 to a bit more than 32 in a day.

Lee




On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 9:40 PM, Mike On A Bike shaljia...@guilford.eduwrote:

 What the whaaat... how can tire specs be so wildly off all the time?
 Schwalbe 42's that measure 37 (or 35's that are 33's) and now this? I
 really want to love these tires and am looking forward to hearing ride
 reports on them, as well as sure word on the actual size.


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Re: [RBW] Poll: What are your single speed gears?

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I want to say (and could easily be wrong) that historically Schwinn geared
their single-speeds at 65 gear inches. So, I used that as the basis for all
of my single-speeds and now fixed gears. To paraphrase Ron Lau, good enough
for the newsboy, good enough for me!

Lee


On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 2:20 PM, ted ted.ke...@comcast.net wrote:

 Absent a one speed w/ a bag of cogs and rings the best way to see what
 gear is right for you is taking carful note of what gear works on a geared
 bike. After that adjust for wheel size/roll out, do a bit of math and you
 should be real close. It seems to me that whats right depends tremendously
 on the rider and after that the surface (i.e. dirt vs pavement). Personally
 I go with abt a 70 or 72 inch gear on my Simple One (running Jack Brown
 tires).


 On Thursday, March 13, 2014 10:42:12 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 Thanks Tom and Dan.  It's pretty much unanimous.  Somewhere in the mid
 60s is a good thing to try for my normal gear.  My climbing gear depends
 on what I can push.  For sure this 38/35 and 16/19 will be my first shot at
 it.

 On Thursday, March 13, 2014 10:39:39 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:

  40 x 17 on my QB with Jack Brown 33s


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Re: [RBW] Poll: What are your single speed gears?

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Hi Bill. I ride my QB fixed at 41x16 (66 gear inches on 650Bx36mm, 165mm
cranks). I also use a 16/19 WI Dos freewheel (66/55.6 gear inches) when I
ride on trails. The 41x19 has gotten me up a lot of trails in the
Headlands, just for reference sakes. YMMV though because my quads are burly
like a loaf of Wonderbread.

Best,
Lee


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 I use a 42x18 on a 700x28 wheel.   There are a few uphills where it gets
 rough, but then I just walk.   Its pretty standard gearing.  I'm too old
 for a 42x16 anymore.  I have to figure that for most of us, our bikes back
 in the day usually came with a 42x21 low gear.So a 42x18 fixed is
 pretty functional.

 For going downhill fixed, just take your feet off the pedals.  Its much
 easier than shifting gears.
  Scott


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 I have a build concept for a SimpleBeam kind of thing.  The steep hill I
 live on completely rules out a singlespeed for the uphill part, and rules
 out riding fixed for the downhill part.  Still, I notice that for my
 commute I use a particular small handful of gears.  It makes me think that
 it is plausible for me to build a 2-speed, using a White 16/19 on the back
 and two chainrings on the front with 3-teeth of difference, so I could have
 one rear wheel position.

 Right now my concept is a 35/38 in front with the 16/19 in back.  My two
 gears: 35x19 and 38x16 would be 50 and 64 with 27 diameter wheels
 (700x32).
 On a 110mm BCD, I could alternatively easily run a 36/39, a 39/42, a
 40/43 or a 42/45 in front without having to chase down any weird
 chainrings.
 On a 94mm BCD, I could run a 29/32 for offroady stuff.

 As a shifting maneuver, I'd loosen the right side bolt.  Stick-shift the
 chain from big-to-small and then from small-to-big.  Then tighten the right
 side bolt again and ride away.

 Anyway, by my numbers, spinning at 110RPM with a 27 diameter wheel is
 21mph, which is plenty fast for road cruising for me, especially when I can
 coast downhills.  I think I can handle the 50 gear up my hill as well.

 I wonder what others feel they need.  I know Patrick Moore zens out with
 a slow metronome cadence climbing with 70-something gear inches.  Who else
 thinks my two speeds are a bad idea?

 Bill Lindsay

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Re: [RBW] Poll: What are your single speed gears?

[Lee Chae]

JL: Riv sells them!


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 Oh. I spoke too quickly.  I used a popular internet search tool and found
 the 16/19 freewheels.  White industries no longer lists the size but it can
 still be had.

 Jason (soon to have a two speed single speed)
 SF,CA

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Re: [RBW] Sewing wool anyone?

[Lee Chae]

Hi Rich. You ought to be able to take the shirt into a tailor who can cut
the arms off and hem the sleeve with a serger. I'm not sure about the arm
warmer idea.

Best,
Lee


On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 8:24 PM, Rich Powers richdpow...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a LS Rapha polo I'd like turned in to a short sleeve.  Maybe have
 the cut-offs made into arm warmers?  Any ideas?  Anyone skilled in this
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[RBW] Seatpost binder bolt length for Quickbeam?

[Lee Chae]

Hi all. Kind of a random question, but my Quickbeam needs a new seatpost
binder bolt. Anyone know what length QBs/Rivs use?

Thanks!
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Re: [RBW] Seatpost binder bolt length for Quickbeam?

[Lee Chae]

Much appreciated, Jason!

 On Mar 1, 2014, at 8:23 AM, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Lee,  it should be M6x20.  
 
 Jason
 
 
 On Mar 1, 2014, at 7:50 AM, Lee Chae leec...@stanford.edu wrote:
 
 Hi all. Kind of a random question, but my Quickbeam needs a new seatpost 
 binder bolt. Anyone know what length QBs/Rivs use?
 
 Thanks!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sanity check: moving posts to 650b-ice SimpleOne

[Lee Chae]

Hi Keith. That second QB 650b conversion on Jim Cyclofiend's website is mine. I 
bought the frame/fork/brakes/wheels from Rich. I'll post something more 
detailed in the morning, but in short, I could fit Hetres in there no problem. 
But the increased pneumatic trail made the famously stable Riv ride too 
sluggish for me. So I switched to Soma B-lines and have been quite happy. As 
Bill alludes to, however, that BB gets pretty low, which is an issue since I'm 
riding the QB fixed. I use 165mm cranks, but am wedded to toe clip technology. 
It took some time before I found a pedal + toe clip combo that wouldn't scrape 
the ground when walking the bike. (I use MKS Sylvan Lites and Soma double-gated 
clips.) Despite it all, I have yet to have a real pedal strike incident and I 
ride that bike the most frequently as it's my commuter (which means I'll 
probably go down tomorrow). I'm not a racer though, but neither am I tootler. 
Or maybe I'm an unracer and untootler or somethinglikethat. 

Best regards,
Lee

 On Feb 20, 2014, at 8:47 PM, iamkeith keithhar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 For the heck of it, here are some of the 650b conversions I mentioned;
 
 
 http://www.cyclofiend.com/ssg/2006/ssg024-ronlau0406.html
 
 http://www.cyclofiend.com/ssg/2010/ssg320-leechae1110.htm
 
 
 And here is a thread that attempts, and then dismisses, the idea of fitting 
 43mm Rock 'n Roads:
  
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/fattest$20quickbeam/rbw-owners-bunch/9iUwYfpUscE/qeAT4Js_jeQJ
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/71141757@N02/sets/72157630487687298/
 
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Tire Casing Quiz

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Hi Mike. I think one reason the Hetre costs what it does is to pay for the
molding. The Col de la Vie tire has been around for a long time and thus,
that chunk of overhead is probably no longer a factor in its pricing.

Best,
Lee


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 The only diff I can tell  is less rubber, as you can see the threads are
 practically emerging from the rubber on the Hetre. But there must be
 something else because the Hetres cost so much.



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Re: [RBW] 650Bx ~2.0 tires, real widths

[Lee Chae]

Hi Michael. Here is a link to a shared spreadsheet of 650B tire
measurements. Feel free to contribute to it and pass it around. (Note that
I'm not the originator of the doc.)

*http://tinyurl.com/mv5mhor http://tinyurl.com/mv5mhor*

Lee


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 Hello group,  does anyone have some real width measurements on any 650Bx
 ~2.0 tires?  I own a Bleriot, and right now have some Vee Rubber 650Bx 1.95
 that measure a true 46mm on Synergy rims, and surprisingly theres a decent
 amount of clearance left between the chainstays.  Wouldnt mind trying to
 squeeze a little more rubber in there.   Thanks in advance!! -Mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell SimpleBeam - New Model - Call for the Seriously InterestedB

[Lee Chae]

Thanks for the detailed review, Eric. I've been hemming and hawing about
getting one. Good to hear about your experiences of its durability.

Best,
Lee


On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:

 I have the S3X on two bikes, with thousands of combined miles. I’ve never
 had a failure—only one missed shift that I can recall in about two years of
 riding, and that was probably my fault.

 I don’t have proof, by my guess is that the S3X is more sturdy than a
 standard Sturmey Archer 3-speed hub because it doesn’t have pawls inside.
 Because it has no pawls, it also runs silently, without the constant (if
 quiet) ticking that a 3-speed hub normally makes.

 To run in fixed mode, you use a splined cog that slides onto the hub and
 is held in place by a locking. There’s a bit of “lash” in the hub—even with
 the chain properly tight, there’s a slight lag between backpedaling and
 forward pedaling. This eliminates a bit of the “flywheel” effect of a true
 fixed gear, but it still rides pretty much like a regular fixie.

 You also have the option of spinning on a standard one-speed freewheel,
 which turns the S3X into a coasting hub. The benefit to this setup is that
 the pawls (the part that usually breaks) is outside of the hub and easily
 fixed—either fix the freewheel or put on a new one. I have a White
 Industries Eno freewheel on my Quickbeam; my Motobecane is still in fixed
 mode.

 I have my bikes geared so that the top gear is my normal cruising gear
 (somewhere around 72 inches) and I have two lower gears for the steep stuff
 (75% and 60% of the top gear). With a top gear of 72 inches, this gives a
 low of 45, which is for me good enough until the gradient goes over about
 10 percent. YMMV.

 --Eric Norris
 Email: campyonly...@me.com
 Web: www.campyonly.com
 Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
 Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy
 Flickr: www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy

 On Dec 24, 2013, at 9:31 AM, Lee Chae leec...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi Eric. Can you review the S3X hub? I'm thinking about using one but I
 know there were mixed reports on them when they first came out.
 
  Thanks!
  Lee
 
  On Dec 24, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:
 
  That would be too easy.
 
  One solution I have found is to use a 3-speed hub, which gives me a
 good range of gears without messing with the wheel at all. I use a Sturmey
 Archer S3X, which I can run as a fixie or (with a standard one-speed
 freewheel) as a coasting 3-speed.
 
  --Eric Norris
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  On Dec 24, 2013, at 9:23 AM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
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Re: [RBW] Cable End Soldering

[Lee Chae]

I've heard of people using Krazy Glue, too. I decided to give soldering a
try recently. To handle stainless steel cables, I uses flux and silver
solder. It worked out fine:

http://tinyurl.com/moec7cp
http://tinyurl.com/k6md8ey

Happy new year, all!

Lee


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 Can't say that I have tried solder. However in a pinch, I once used nail
 polish. It worked like a charm!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell SimpleBeam - New Model - Call for the Seriously InterestedB

[Lee Chae]

I feel the same way, Patrick. Direct drive in the top gear, with a couple
of helper gears when absolutely necessary. I'm planning on using it on a
utility bike. Hopefully it's okay on a load-carrying bike...


On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 After debating all the various possibilities for extending the gearing on
 my two Riv fixies, , I still come back to the S3X as the best idea. I like
 having the pawls in the add-on freewheel, and, especially, that direct
 drive is in 3d. Just waiting for the $$ to get them and have them built
 into wheels.

 Hopefully they will still be available at that distant future date when I
 do have the money.


 On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Lee Chae leec...@stanford.edu wrote:

 Thanks for the detailed review, Eric. I've been hemming and hawing about
 getting one. Good to hear about your experiences of its durability.

 Best,
 Lee


 On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:

 I have the S3X on two bikes, with thousands of combined miles. I’ve
 never had a failure—only one missed shift that I can recall in about two
 years of riding, and that was probably my fault.

 I don’t have proof, by my guess is that the S3X is more sturdy than a
 standard Sturmey Archer 3-speed hub because it doesn’t have pawls inside.
 Because it has no pawls, it also runs silently, without the constant (if
 quiet) ticking that a 3-speed hub normally makes.

 To run in fixed mode, you use a splined cog that slides onto the hub and
 is held in place by a locking. There’s a bit of “lash” in the hub—even with
 the chain properly tight, there’s a slight lag between backpedaling and
 forward pedaling. This eliminates a bit of the “flywheel” effect of a true
 fixed gear, but it still rides pretty much like a regular fixie.

 You also have the option of spinning on a standard one-speed freewheel,
 which turns the S3X into a coasting hub. The benefit to this setup is that
 the pawls (the part that usually breaks) is outside of the hub and easily
 fixed—either fix the freewheel or put on a new one. I have a White
 Industries Eno freewheel on my Quickbeam; my Motobecane is still in fixed
 mode.

 I have my bikes geared so that the top gear is my normal cruising gear
 (somewhere around 72 inches) and I have two lower gears for the steep stuff
 (75% and 60% of the top gear). With a top gear of 72 inches, this gives a
 low of 45, which is for me good enough until the gradient goes over about
 10 percent. YMMV.

 --Eric Norris
 Email: campyonly...@me.com
 Web: www.campyonly.com
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 Flickr: www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy

 On Dec 24, 2013, at 9:31 AM, Lee Chae leec...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi Eric. Can you review the S3X hub? I'm thinking about using one but
 I know there were mixed reports on them when they first came out.
 
  Thanks!
  Lee
 
  On Dec 24, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:
 
  That would be too easy.
 
  One solution I have found is to use a 3-speed hub, which gives me a
 good range of gears without messing with the wheel at all. I use a Sturmey
 Archer S3X, which I can run as a fixie or (with a standard one-speed
 freewheel) as a coasting 3-speed.
 
  --Eric Norris
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Re: [RBW] Center/Sidepulls ok on a Quickbeam or Simple One?

[Lee Chae]

I have centerpulls on my QB as it was a 650b conversion (canti posts were 
removed). They've been working fine, though I do ride it as a fixed gear and 
tend to use all braking options when stopping or slowing. 

Happy holidays, all!
Lee

 On Dec 24, 2013, at 9:12 AM, ted ted.ke...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 I think the short answer is not really. The SimpleOnes were going to be 
 side/center pull but the builder used the wrong kind of bridge, and rather 
 than replace the bridges Grant opted to add the canti posts. I think it would 
 be unsafe to mount a brake on the rear brake bridge of a SimpleOne, and 
 probably the same for a Quickbeam. You could forgo the rear brake as some 
 folks do with fixed gears.
 The canti posts are in the wrong place fo mounting side pulls.
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell SimpleBeam - New Model - Call for the Seriously InterestedB

[Lee Chae]

Hi Eric. Can you review the S3X hub? I'm thinking about using one but I know 
there were mixed reports on them when they first came out. 

Thanks!
Lee

 On Dec 24, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:
 
 That would be too easy. 
 
 One solution I have found is to use a 3-speed hub, which gives me a good 
 range of gears without messing with the wheel at all. I use a Sturmey Archer 
 S3X, which I can run as a fixie or (with a standard one-speed freewheel) as a 
 coasting 3-speed.
 
 --Eric Norris
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Re: [RBW] Bicycle Coffee

[Lee Chae]

Hi Eric, 

They also distribute their coffee to shops and stores by bike. One of them on 
an Atlantis. 

Happy holidays all,
Lee
SF, CA

 On Dec 7, 2013, at 9:06 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:
 
 Came across this coffee place in Oakland yesterday as I was riding from the 
 Amtrak station. Nice little shop--with a pedal-powered barista cart--and very 
 good coffee. To top it all off, they give away coffee *free* every Friday, so 
 I got a thermos full of individually prepared drip coffee for nothing.
 
 I was so impressed that I bought a pair of very warm wool socks with the 
 shop's logo on them.
 
 Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157638428255855/ 
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Best summer cycling caps?

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Sorry, Patrick, I haven't tried their cotton caps before. So, I don't know
about sizing. You may want to measure your dome and give them a ring. I
hear their customer service is very good. The wool caps I have from them
are super stretchy--no discomfort at all for me, unlike some of the other
wool caps I own.

Best of luck,
Lee


On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Lee -- how do they fit a big head with a lot of hair?

 The price is certainly good!

 Thanks.


 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Lee Chae leec...@stanford.edu wrote:

 I'm a fan of the Kucharik wool caps, though they do carry cotton ones in
 many styles. Here are the plain ones:


 http://www.kucharikclothing.com/stock-color-cycling-cap-p-136.html?osCsid=7g4m3n4o1vc986dj4qc3m49dn6

 Best,
 Lee


 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Bertin753 bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks. How do they fit big heads and big hair? Well made? I can eyeball
 the brims.

 Patrick Moore, who almost lost his Nash at PDM cap just now in gusty
 ABQ, NM.

 Patrick Moore
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 On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:48 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote:


 Pace has a huge selection , cotton, wool, coolmax .  Browse all the
 collections, then buy from them or google it and find someone else who
 sells it.

 http://www.pacesportswear.com/2013technicalcollection.aspx

 Too bad Patagonia doesn't still make caps like this  I have one and
 it will likely outlast me ... I bought it in the early 90's.
 http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-Patagonia-5-panel-mesh-Hat-Cap-Cycling-Medium-/00/s/MTA2NlgxNjAw/z/PPwAAOxyaqlSTH~e/$%28KGrHqNHJFIFIu!bbC3uBSTH+ePmUw~~60_57.JPG

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Re: [RBW] Re: Best summer cycling caps?

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I'm a fan of the Kucharik wool caps, though they do carry cotton ones in
many styles. Here are the plain ones:

http://www.kucharikclothing.com/stock-color-cycling-cap-p-136.html?osCsid=7g4m3n4o1vc986dj4qc3m49dn6

Best,
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 Thanks. How do they fit big heads and big hair? Well made? I can eyeball
 the brims.

 Patrick Moore, who almost lost his Nash at PDM cap just now in gusty ABQ,
 NM.

 Patrick Moore
 iPhone

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 Pace has a huge selection , cotton, wool, coolmax .  Browse all the
 collections, then buy from them or google it and find someone else who
 sells it.

 http://www.pacesportswear.com/2013technicalcollection.aspx

 Too bad Patagonia doesn't still make caps like this  I have one and it
 will likely outlast me ... I bought it in the early 90's.
 http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-Patagonia-5-panel-mesh-Hat-Cap-Cycling-Medium-/00/s/MTA2NlgxNjAw/z/PPwAAOxyaqlSTH~e/$%28KGrHqNHJFIFIu!bbC3uBSTH+ePmUw~~60_57.JPG

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Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

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Hey David, better yet, cut the housing with a piece of old wire in it. 

Best,
Lee

 On Nov 20, 2013, at 7:26 AM, David Yu Greenblatt 
 david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 When installing new cable housing, cut with a Dremel tool cutting wheel and 
 open up the ends with a home-made pokey-spoke (http://tinyurl.com/lh5bxdy). 
 
 - David G in San Diego 
  
  
 On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 6:04 AM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Whether it's an application of beeswax, a dab of a specific grease, quirky 
 cable routing... What is your own favorite tip or trick when building up a 
 new bike out replacing components...?
 
 I'm pretty new to the game but I notice small mentions in some if the riv 
 products of arcane or fancy installs, and I've seen all manner of custom 
 work at my local co-op.  I recently had the pleasure of visiting Rob at 
 Ocean Air Cycles and was impressed at the attention to detail in his builds 
 and the small bits and pieces adapted to make fenders and lights melt into 
 the frame.
 
 I'll start, not that it's much of a secret but I've come to really like 
 starting my handlebar wrap with a layer of recycled inner tube... Cheap and 
 available, more cush than cork under cotton.  You can also run with it 
 without cotton on top as you are trying out different brake/shifter 
 configurations or bar height.  It's really easy to work with and you can 
 even cut it in half canoe style to reduce the'thickness' in some areas or 
 add thickness in other places.
 
 What do you have!?!
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Re: [RBW] Crazy-priced Riv water bottles on ebay

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I think you all are missing an important point: It's not just a water
bottle, it's a *bidon*.

Lee Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week in SF, CA


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 Not sure I can justify drinking from my Riv bottles in this market...

 http://www.ebay.com/itm/RIVENDELL-WATER-BOTTLE-BIDON-MADE-BY-SPECIALIZED-LARGE-GREEN-/271314267002?pt
 t=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3f2b972b7ahttp://www.ebay.com/itm/RIVENDELL-WATER-BOTTLE-BIDON-MADE-BY-SPECIALIZED-LARGE-GREEN-/271314267002?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3f2b972b7a

 But it was $100!

 Best,
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Re: [RBW] Crazy-priced Riv water bottles on ebay

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What, do you own Twitter stock or something? Bidons on Bill, everyone.

Lee


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a bidon and a gilet in my musette.


 On Friday, November 8, 2013 10:05:39 AM UTC-8, Lee Chae wrote:

 I think you all are missing an important point: It's not just a water
 bottle, it's a *bidon*.

 Lee Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week in SF, CA


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 Not sure I can justify drinking from my Riv bottles in this market...

 http://www.ebay.com/itm/RIVENDELL-WATER-BOTTLE-BIDON-
 MADE-BY-SPECIALIZED-LARGE-GREEN-/271314267002?pt
 t=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3f2b972b7ahttp://www.ebay.com/itm/RIVENDELL-WATER-BOTTLE-BIDON-MADE-BY-SPECIALIZED-LARGE-GREEN-/271314267002?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3f2b972b7a

 But it was $100!

 Best,
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Re: [RBW] Fenders, dammit!

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Glass half full, it seems like you might have a nice little side business
there.

Lee


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 It must be a supernatural truth: removing fenders brings rain, adding
 them brings sunshine.

 Last night, after 2 weeks of sun and the calendar end of the monsoon
 at the end of September, not to mention no forecast of any real
 chancer of rain in the forseable future,I removed the fenders from the
 Curt. Had that nice night ride.

 Today: rain threatening.

 Earlier: after almost record breaking rains in late July and August
 (after a 3 year severe drought -- my mother's west side of the city
 got exactly 0.1 between Jan and June of this year; av citywide
 something like 1), we had 2 weeks of sun in early Sept. Removed
 fenders. Immediately got a week of record breaking rain. Put them back
 on. Two weeks of sun as mentioned above.k

 Sheesh!

 Patrick no I will *not* simply leave the fenders all on year Moore
 in clouding up ABQ, NM.

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Re: [RBW] Seeking feedback: smart looking wool cycle shorts

[Lee Chae]

Hi Paul. I like the look and design of your shorts. I sometimes sew my own
from thrift store pants (http://tinyurl.com/27s7jbv*)* and learned a couple
things along the way*. *One thing you may want to experiment with is adding
an extra layer of material over the area covering the sit bones--right
where you see the color staining from your saddle. I find that area is the
first place to wear through.

Good luck!
Lee


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 Hi all,

 I'm looking for some feedback on my pet project - cycling shorts inspired
 by Grant's writings and also the posts of several on this group.
 I had my prototype of these shorts made at the tailor's about 3 months ago
 and have put about a thousand kilometers on them.
 I have to say I am very pleased, and hope to bring these shorts to market
 as a custom fitted, made-to-order product.

 Link to flickr 
 photosethttp://www.flickr.com/photos/paulatwork/sets/72157635797576895/

 Any comments would be greatly appreciated!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jamboree, China Camp

[Lee Chae]

I can think of 3-4 great rides using China Camp as a start-end point and
covering a few different types of ride:

1. A mellow ride around the Paradise Loop rollers. Only one medium-size
hill along the way. So, a climb out and a climb back in. I would figure the
basic loop would be ~25 miles(???), but can be extended with some easy
miles and cover a range of great places for a lunch, including a great
little seafood shack right out on the pier ;)

http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Paradise-Loop
http://www.331fish.com/

2. A medium-effort ride out to Point Reyes and the great Bovine Bakery.
Several climbs to deal with, but the scenery is worth it. And none of the
hills are killers, though the baked goods may be.

http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/point-reyes-loop
http://www.thebovinebakery.com/

3. A harder ride up Mt. Tam either on paved road or trail, followed by the
Seven Sisters rollers, the beautiful descent to Alpine Dam, the climb out
to beer and sausages in Fairfax, and an easy bit back to China Camp.

http://www.strava.com/activities/29392795
http://www.yelp.com/biz/gestalt-haus-fairfax-fairfax

4. A dirt ride: There are lots of single-track-type dirt rides right in
China Camp, and many more in the immediate surroundings.

http://www.marinfattire.com/chinacampbiketrails.html
http://mikesbikes.com/articles/mountain-bike-trails-marin-north-bay-pg126.htm

One question I had is it seems many Riv owners own more than one Riv. How
many will be packing more than one to the Jamboree? I mention this in hopes
of there being some sort of Entmoot called during the event, as that's the
only Riv I own.

http://arwen-undomiel.com/sc/ttt/Entmoot/Entmoot020.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/visiondrawn/4360903195/

Lee


On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote:

 Of course we should have crazy rides for people who want crazy rides.
 Point is, we should also mellow rides for people who want mellow
 rides.

 On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Manuel Acosta
 manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote:
  Great thing about these big events is that it gives folks options.
  I don't mind trying to figure out a ride for those looking for doing
  something stupid.
 
 
  On Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:40:51 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:
 
  Yay for Riv Chicas on new Bettys. And Riv Chicas on other bikes.
 
  And I hope and anticipate that we have some rides for people who don't
  want to do crazy long or crazy fast (or just crazy) rides.
 
  On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Hugh Smitham hughs...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Anne,
  
   I voted, however my wife will be joining in as she rides a new Betty.
   Though
   she might not be doing the longer rides, then again she is riding more
   now
   that she has Betty. I know this doesn't change the men to Riv Chica
   warrior
   ratio much but it's a start. Perhaps the others have chica warriors
 not
   represented.
  
   -Hugh
  
   On Aug 22, 2013 10:01 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   The poll is depressing me. Not the closeness of the vote; that's
 fine,
   I voted for SF Bay but either location would be wonderful. But
 looking
   at the names... except me, it's all dudes. I knew that more men than
   women bought Rivs, but 45 to 1? Riv Chicas, where are you? Cecily,
   Liesl, other chicas? Anyone?
  
   On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:08 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.com
 wrote:
FWIW I think we should have a vote on the location first then the
date.
As
far as two Jamborees please don't do that to me as I'll have to go
 to
both
and I can assure you it will create a conflict betwixt me and my
significant
other. Additionally, perhaps the location not chosen will be the
location in
2015.
   
~Hugh
   
   
On Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:03:04 PM UTC-7, Stephen S wrote:
   
2 people voted for all 3.
   
So it's currently 20 (not msp) vs 18 (either MSP). This isn't
 really
significant of a difference between the two choices.
   
It's my opinion that we won't get consensus on one site or the
other. I
think it might be prudent to plan two get togethers and let the
folks
who
want to go to them go to them.
   
Stephen
   
On Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:32:15 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:
   
Nobody voted for the second MSP option and not the first; the two
MSP
options combined have more votes only because lots of people
 voted
for
both of them.  Everybody who voted MSP, for either date: 17.
Everybody
who voted for China Camp: 22.
   
   
   
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
thil...@gmail.com wrote:
 The 2 MSP options combined tally more than the single SF
 option.
 Maybe
 there
 should be a run-off vote for the leading MSP date vs the SFO
 date.


 On Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:13:18 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson
 wrote:

 The poll has always had the 

Re: [RBW] How much do you carry on your S24O?

[Lee Chae]

Hi Tom. Here's a recent set-up I used for a quick S24O in good weather. I
think it came in at less than 15 lbs, including pannier and handlebar bag
weight (but not including food or water bottles):

http://tinyurl.com/mnfdtt5

I think the main weight savings were the ultralight tent, sleeping bag, and
sleeping pad. The Esbit stove helped on weight, but really I chose it for
packability. Another great addition was the flour sack towel. I love these
things. You can use them for a lot of tasks, and they are so absorbent that
I also use them to towel off after a dip in the water or a shower or faucet
bath. Finally, since the weather was so mild, I only took one added layer
for emergency warmth, and it was lightweight wool stuff.

Take it easy,
Lee
SF, CA


On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Tom Virgil tevir...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am not interested in fern elves who sleep under leaves or those who can
 build a house at the campsite from available materials

 What is a nominal weight?

 With everything I could want, I am coming in at +22 pounds.  I am trying
 to pare that away.  If I were to take everything, it would include,,,

Sleeping bag

  Sleeping bag liner

  Compression Sack

  Pillow

  Pad

  Tent

  Tent Footprint

  French Press

  Titanium cup

  Stove

  Fuel bottle

  Cooking pot

  Utensils

  bucket

  camp suds

  towel

  sacks

  egg holder

  bottles


 and a few other things for breakfast, camp clothes.

 Having accumulated all of this from backpacking, I am now figuring out
 where to pare down.

 I have been practicing with Sam and the weight.

 Best regards,

 Tom


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Re: [RBW] How much do you carry on your S24O?

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Nice set-up, Mike. How did the Hilsen handle with the loaded Saddlesack?

Lee


On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Whether I'm gone for a week or an overnight the load is pretty much the
 same with the exception of the amount of food, Via, and underwear (2 for an
 S24O, 3 for a week, same for socks).

 I did an S24O on my Hilsen a few years ago and managed to fit everything
 into a trunk sack and medium saddlesack.


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Re: [RBW] Stolen SimpleOne (Sacramento)

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Hi David. Sorry to hear about the theft. You may want to try posting an
alert in this group, in case the bike makes its way down to the SF Bay Area:

https://groups.google.com/group/stolen-bicycles-bay-area/

Lee


On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:30 PM, David davidboydle...@gmail.com wrote:

 These recovery attempts are a long-shot, but I have to try.  My SimpleOne
 was stolen a couple weeks ago.  Police report filed within 24 hours.  No
 luck yet.  Thanks for your time.

 http://sacramento.craigslist.org/bik/3999794563.html


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Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

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I was thinking that way, too, Anne. I actually started out an exercise
querying round-trip airline fares for various destinations from a variety
of cities (SF, NYC, DC, Seattle, Portland, LA, San Diego, etc.). I thought
I'd try Denver as a destination first. So far, it looks like Chicago O'Hare
would be the cheapest average round-trip flight from most of the points of
origin I checked.

Lee


On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote:

 IF we are looking for geographical centers-- and I don't know that we
 are-- we should look for the geographical center of the rider's home
 towns, not the geographical center of the US. I suspect the
 geographical center of riders would be something like Denver.

 On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Marc Irwin irwin7...@gmail.com wrote:
  I was going to chime in on that also.  If it is to be a national get
  together, picking a place in one distant corner will rule out a lot of
  people just because of the travel.  It will be a regional get together
 as a
  result.  As I mentioned earlier the geographical center of the country
 is in
  northern Kansas almost equidistant from Kansas City, Omaha and Denver.
  I'm
  not familiar with Omaha but Kansas City and Denver both have a lot going
 for
  them and a lot of very interesting riding to be chosen.
 
  Marc
 
 
  On Thursday, August 1, 2013 6:40:54 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
 
  If this is to be a national get together, can we have it in the exact
  geometrical center of the country? Just kidding about that, but
 somewhere
  more or less accessible to the majority of participants would be nice to
  consider.
 
  Colorado?
 
  Of course, if most of the interested parties are in the PNW, then that
  would over-weigh a national distribution.
 
  On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54c...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  I wonder if we could find some sort of BB type place that would have
  rooms for those who want to sleep indoors and a lawn for those who
 want to
  throw a sleeping bag on the ground.
 
  The Coastal Mountain Sport Haus is in the coast range west of Portland,
  so not really near Bellingham. But if there's interest I'd be happy to
 call
  and at least find out if they could/would accommodate something like
 this.
 
  My vote regarding date would be earlier the better... to maximize the
  cool and green. Although by mid-July the berries are ripe.
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

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There's a Motel 6 and a Travelodge in San Rafael, about 4 miles from the
campgrounds. There's also an Embassy Suites less than 2 miles away from it.
The first two seem to be around $70/night for a king bed, and the Embassy
Suites about $170 (all current rates).

Admin Jim Cyclofiend has been known to lurk in the trails and roadways in
that area, so maybe he can chime in at some point about local motels, etc?
:)

Also, the campground has pay showers, just fyi. And if you use it as a
base, you will have access to many great rides from there.


I like how this is shaping up!
Lee


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 It sounds like some people want motel lodging.  If we go to China
 Camp, where would those people stay, and how expensive would it be?
 The Bay Area is a pricey area.

 On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Reid reidp...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
  On Thursday, August 1, 2013 8:41:32 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
 
  Bay Area is always a good place in the summer. What better place to
 have a
  Rivendell Jamboree then in the place where Rivendell Bicycle Works. I
 place
  my bid for China Camp beautiful campground that leaves the option of
 plenty
  of different level riding abilities for those not looking to go crazy.
 Take
  the ferry and ride super short or take the road and ride to the
 campgrounds.
  The morning afterwords there's prime dirt loops around the area.
  s for more official statement.
  Manny's Bid.
  China Camp, 101 Peacock Gap Trail, San Rafael, CA 94901
  July 13-14
 
 
  Yes! Here's my vote for Manny's Bid. And yes, this is somewhat
 self-serving
  as I also live in the Bay Area. Is that strengthening a clique? I like to
  see it as a direct challenge to the PNW people to get off their duffs and
  make a really strong, exciting bid/case for the PNW. Also self-serving,
  though as the PNW is about my favorite piece of the world.  :-)
 
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Re: [RBW] Child seat

[Lee Chae]

Just my two cents: My son didn't like the Burley trailer experience. I
ended up using a hand-me-down Bell Classic child seat. He loves it,
although I don't like how the bike handles with it. (It's a Kogswell P/R.)
I was interested in the front carriers, but it seems like you need a bike
set up with a more upright positioning to accommodate them. Maybe someone
can chime in about that.

Anyway, gratuitous child-on-a-bike pic: http://tinyurl.com/mwtrns7

Best,
Lee



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 Somewhat OT, but a post to the Lifestyles list got only one response.  My
 grandson is now old enough to ride behind his mom, and really loves it, so
 I am thinking about getting a seat and putting it on my Trek 620.  Any
 advice about models and use would be much appreciated.

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Re: [RBW] Terrible News

[Lee Chae]

If anyone confirms this and knows that he has family we can help out, please 
let us know. 

Best,
Lee

On Jul 9, 2013, at 12:03 PM, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote:

 via Twitter:
 
 ThePathLessPedaled @pathlesspedaled 
 Just found out a reader from Durham was killed in a hit and run. RIP Seth 
 Vidal. http://bit.ly/1bljzbI
 
 http://www.wral.com/bicyclist-killed-in-durham-hit-and-run/12639104/
 
 I do not know if this is the same person who is regular here. I did not know 
 him personally. The PLP video they link to features a nice guy on an 
 Atlantis. (If not, my apologies for causing undue grief.)
 
 Thoughts and prayers for his family and friends.
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Newbaum's cloth bar tape

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1) Yes, I ended up liking four coats the best, too.
2) I agree. I remove just enough backing to make the next loop. I found
this kept the wrap tight on the bars, and also avoided having the tape
stick to itself.

On a side note, I've never been able to get good color using clear shellac
on colored tape. I found it would alter the hue in unexpected ways. I moved
on to trying teflon spray as a way to keep the cloth relatively clean. That
only worked so-so. Now, I neither shellac nor spray. Just use the cloth
tape until it's too grimy and then replace. Does anyone have any tricks
regarding the clear shellac. I like gray bar cloth and would like to keep
the color gray, but with a little protection from dirt and grease.

Thanks,
Lee



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 Two things:
 1) In my experience it takes at least four coats of shellac for it to end
 up glossy. If you like the matte look, my advice is to just lay thin coats
 and stop at three. Anyone else want to confirm that number?
 2) The trick to preventing the tape from twisting and adhering to itself
 is to remove the backing only a little at a time. It takes a little
 practice to get your technique down but then it's not too bad.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Albas and Saddle Width

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I've also used a B17 with Albatross bars for a couple of years, with no
issues.

Lee, 5'7, 150


On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've been using a B17 with Albas and a Flyer (sprung B17) with Boscos, and
 it's been working really well for me.  The big turn off for the wider
 saddles for me is that they make it harder to sit farther back on the
 saddle, which for me is important for upright riding comfort.  Pictures:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/85709120@N07/9067526045/
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/85709120@N07/8714991825/

 I should also say I'm not a small guy--6'3 and 220+ lbs.

 I'd try a B17 and see if it worked for you.

 On Monday, July 1, 2013 2:19:32 PM UTC-7, Larry H wrote:

 I'm wondering what type (width) of Brooks Saddle people use with
 Albatross Bars.  I've been using a B-67 on my Sam Hillborne.  RBW
 recommends the wider saddles for upright bars.  Does anyone use the B-17
 with Albas or Bosco bars?  I'm not a big fan of the textured leather on the
 B-67.  I would need to switch to a B-17 or B-72 to get non textured
 leather.  The B-72 is a double rail saddle and would need a seat post
 sandwich or Nitto simple seat post.

 I also don't like the creaky springs.  I don't really need a sprung
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Re: [RBW] Re: Newbaum's cloth bar tape

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Hi Johnny. I believe Jitensha Studio still carries the Viva cloth tape:

http://jitensha.com/eng/tape_e.html

Best,
Le


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 I actually find the Newbaums a pain to install.  Something about it makes
 it want to go on crooked.  The best bar tape was that Japanese kind that
 Rivendell carried a year back or less.  I want to know where to get more of
 that.  The light green was a fantastic color.


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 I purchased my first cloth bar tape and have a new appreciation for the
 effort needed to install this tape. I bought Newbaum's and its very nice,
 but its a bearcat to wrap. Two rolls on my Ergo equipped, 44cm noodles,
 with a little to spare.
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Re: [RBW] Start of Summer shenanigans.

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Hey Manny. I just wanted to ask where in the Headlands you camped? I'm
trying to do a quick overnight this Friday, but I know Hawk, Haypress, and
Bicentennial in the Headlands are all booked. Did you reserve a site or do
you have a stealth spot you go to?

Thanks!
Lee



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 Great weekend riding bikes.
 Some highlights
 - Checking out and meeting familiar and new folks at the opening of the
 Rivendell SF Pop-Up store. The pop-up shops looks good, great layout and a
 good number of demo bikes there not really meant for demoing. The raffle
 was the highlight of the night and was a blast! For those that stayed after
 the raffle Dav and Jenny jammed out to some music till closing. Dav did a
 great job setting everything up and replicating the great experience of
 Rivendell HQ! Afterwords convinced a handful of the employees and a couple
 of locals in doing a ride after the pop-up store. The usually suspects
 Sean, Will with some locals Mike and Brencho (kind of local) went on trying
 to catch the sunset at the Enchanted forrest. Had a blast riding in near
 darkness and grabbing coffee before doing all over again.

 - Went on a mixed terrain ride with some Rando-folks and Jeremy Thill
 starting from Fremont ending wherever.
 Jeremy did a good job writing it up here.
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/X1P44qvUJ0k/ZlwInRnDa_IJ

 - Did a quick overnight with Mike, Jared, Will, Adam and Brencho in the
 Marin Headlands. Started pretty late and already tired so we did took our
 time getting to camp. The wind and the fog was howling so we opted for some
 tree coverage. The morning the fog semi burned off and Mike happily showed
 the group through some of his favorite trails of the Marin Headlands. It
 seemed like we rolled just below the fog line and had amazing views of the
 city and beyond.

 - Great weekend of coffee and bike riding shenanigans. And the summer only
 just started..

 Pictures proved that summertime in California is here:
 http://flic.kr/s/aHsjFJWzEB

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who steals a bike rack from Rivendell?!?!

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Thanks, Eric. I've been racking my brains over this one.

Regards,
Lee
SF, CA


On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:

 I'm surprised that nobody has figured this out yet. The thief was
 obviously someone who felt they had to take a stand.

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 Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

 On Apr 18, 2013, at 12:00 PM, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hobbits.

 Ryan

 On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 9:21:00 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Just saw this. Pretty pissed. It was an awesome bike rack also with
 Rivendell's name on it. I'm think someone stole it for the metal. Anyone
 check at any of the local Recycling places?
 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/**eby/bik/3749459611.htmlhttp://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/3749459611.html


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Re: [RBW] How are you guys putting Hetres on Rambouillets???

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Hi Michael. Just an aside here, but if you plan to use a handlebar bag with
the Grand Ene front rack, it will most likely break under a regular load
unless you are also using a decaleur that is bearing the weight. Mine broke
carrying a very light load. And I've read reports of others breaking, too.

Lee
SF, CA


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 http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrivers/8444744962/

 I needed a winter project and started this a few weeks ago. Thanks to the
 others that came up with this idea.  I weigh 200, and the extra air in the
 tires makes this a more comfortably bike than with JB Greens. I have
 another 650b steed (Rawland rSogn) set up as a commuter, and have done a
 couple other conversions so I had the wheels and parts except for the
 DiaCompe 750's as side pulls wouldn't work in the back. I plan for fenders
 and the Grand Ene front rack. No long rides, but it is Cush!

 Bottom bracket is 260 from a concrete floor, and the cranks are 170's.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Color Question from an Indecisive Person

[Lee Chae]

Hey Riv listers. Here's a great resource for colors:
http://paintref.com/paintref/index.shtml. The site provides color codes,
samples, and sometimes pics, for a large number of automobile makes and
years. So, if you've always liked the baby blue on a '67 Mustang or the
cool color range on 1970s Beetles and Westfalias, check it out. Caveat: May
make you more indecisive on color choice.

Lee
SF, CA




On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:12 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J 
thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote:

  Lynne:

 ** **

 Last to the party, but so sorry to hear about (and SEE, on Flickr –
 yikes!) your Bleriot.  So glad you’re OK.  I had my Bombadil painted by
 Bilenky – it came out absolutely beautiful.

 ** **

 Re color, I honestly think it’s hard to go wrong with Riv frames,
 especially with the cream headtube, but I do love my Atlantis in Pewter; a
 pic is reposted here (apologies for those who’ve peeked before):
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7107210911/in/set-72157624427413755
 The color number is in the comments.

 ** **

 Hope you’re feeling better!

 ** **

 Tom

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 *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:
 rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Lynne Fitz
 *Sent:* Thursday, January 10, 2013 1:07 AM
 *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Color Question from an Indecisive Person

 ** **

 I'm in the same boat.  My Bleriot was wrecked last week (I am so lucky to
 be typing this), and it is either a new bike or getting it repaired.  And,
 of course, repainted.

 ** **


 http://www.flickr.com/photos/lynnefitz/sets/72157632430316656/with/8356816688/
 

 ** **

 I think I would want a green.  Maybe Atlantis green.  Maybe a custom green
 - that Frost Green Metallic is on my list.  Choices.  Or Pewter. Or...

 On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 10:39:52 AM UTC-8, Peter M wrote:

 So my Bombadil is taking a short trip over to the Color Factory in
 Waretown. Even though thier prices seem scarily low Bruce was awesome
 on the phone so I am gonna take the leap soon. The only issue is I
 have never gotten a re-spray and I am having angina over which color
 is most appropriate for the twin TT bomba. I wanted something
 metallic, maybe a dark purple or a soft orange, as you can see I am
 worlds apart even in my own mind. Anyone have any pics of thier
 bombadil they can share so I can play off some ideas? 

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Re: [RBW] Riv-country visit

[Lee Chae]

I ought to be available next week and would do my best to join up! I could
probably recruit a Riv-riders, though I'll probably leave the fixed gear
Quickbeam at home. It needs a break from the commute.

Best wishes to you RBWers,
Lee
SF, CA


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 Hey Jim

 Let us know when you'll be around, holiday time will be hectic but
 if'n I'm available I'd be more than happy to show you round 'Nut
 Creek. Same offer extends to all travelers - just requires a heads-up.

 Happy holidays to all!
 =- Joe Bunik
 Walnut Creek, CA


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  I just put my (vaguely Riv-ish) bike and camping/touring stuff on a
 train,
  with plans to retrieve it in a week at the Amtrak station on Oakland.
 From
  there, I have about 10 days of no plans but to ride and explore and camp
  and hopefully befriend some like-minded locals. I'll stop by RBWHQ, of
  course, if I manage to work around Riv's holiday schedule.
 
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Re: [RBW] Dynohub opinions

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Hi Justin. I have a Shimano DH-3N71 that's been in use for a little more
than 4.5 years. It's on my commuter (first a Kogswell, now a Quickbeam).
I've used it year-round during this time, and park it outside during the
day. It's always worked just fine despite being exposed to the rainy
seasons here in the SF Bay Area. I've taken it out for bike camping
adventures and trail-riding, as well. Again, no problems. So, I've enjoyed
my experience with the Shimano.

Hope this helps,
Lee
SF, CA

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 5:28 PM, justinaug...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi
 Today I did my first mixed mode commute (bus in AM, bike in PM) and
 realized how much I truly need dynohub lighting on any bike I plan to ride
 after dark or at dusk here in Philly. I have a previous generation Shimano
 dynohub on my Saluki and love it. Also the same on my Rich-built wheelset
 on the lady's Univega commuter conversion. Today I rode my (new to me)
 SimpleOne home and realized that with my job (2nd grade teacher) and the
 time of year I'm going to be riding home in the dark quite a bit. I'd like
 to not have my riding choice limited so I turn to you. Now there's Shimano,
 Sanyo, SON, Supernova, that other one and who knows? I think that SON is
 probably out. Too expensive and I think I'd like to have a Shimano-type
 connector. No need to power a tail light but I'll probably use another CYO
 upfront and maybe a ToutTerrain USB charger. What say you? Is Shimano's
 offering solid enough? What about Supernova and that other new one?
 Thanks in advance!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Dynohub opinions

[Lee Chae]

This reminds me: One thing I did to my Cyo light was to tin the ends of the
wires that thread into the Shimano connector. Makes for better contact and
keeps things neater if you have to remove the connector for things like
fixing flats or switching the dyno-wheel to a new bike.

Lee

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philip.william...@gmail.com wrote:

 I like the Shimano connector better than the SON, and the quality seems
 very good. I got a heavily discounted OEM Alfine, and wish I'd bought two.
 My SON has 10x more miles, with no problems - I hope the Shimano does as
 well.

 Philip
 www.biketinker.com


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 My go-to hub is the Shimano Alfine. I have two or three such wheels now.
 No complaints! I've used several Schmidt hubs over the years, too, but I
 find its hard to justify the price difference.

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Re: [RBW] Any commuters here?

[Lee Chae]

A gaggle of commuting Rivs:

http://www.flickr.com/groups/rivendellcommuters/

Enjoy,
Lee
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On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 9:34 PM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have heard mention of tours, overnights, and recreational riding.

 Does anyone commute on their Rivendell?

 I have since about August and I really enjoy the stability on descents and
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Re: [RBW] Re: What Is Your Moustache Attitude?

[Lee Chae]

Good morning, all.

I guess this is a good example of everybody needing to make their own peace
with moustache bars. I like them low and a bit far away. With this
positioning, I do most of my riding with my hands at 10 and 2 on the curves
leading from the hooks to the bar ends. When my hands need a little relief,
I rotate my wrists or move my hands to a new place. When my hands or back
need more relief, I can lean into the hooks or go upright at the bar ends.
I also use the hooks position for headwinds or faster moments. And, I like
grabbing on the straight bar segments when climbing.

With this configuration, I find that I have to tilt the bars down or else
the bar ends force my wrists into a broken position, like after you swing a
hammer or cast a fly. I've also positioned my saddle and bars so that I'm
pretty balanced and can lift my hands off the bar and still stay in my
riding position. So, not a lot of pressure on the bars to begin with.

With all of that said, on a couple of longer rides, at the 60-70 mile mark,
I have felt some discomfort in my hands that I have yet to experience with
drop bars.

Anyways, here's some pics of my setup:

*http://tinyurl.com/3upa5ox
**http://tinyurl.com/9owepc5
**http://tinyurl.com/3sjfeoq*

Happy Friday!
Lee
SF, CA



On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 6:34 AM, Kelly tkslee...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have the mustache bars on my Quickbeam.   My biggest mistake with them
 was to have them to far away.   A nice stretched out ride in the hooks but
 due to the short backward reach I was always putting to much pressure on me
 hands for all day tours when sitting up.
 I love the feel up on in the hooks but the end of bar feel has been
 difficult to find a happy place for me.  I have raised the bar now and
 installed a dirt drop stem to shorten the reach.  Feels better sitting up
 but doesn't feel as good when climbing or in the hooks.  Overall I like
 them and will keep them on this bike for a while longer.

 Kelly


 On Friday, September 7, 2012 2:14:04 AM UTC-5, Philip Williamson wrote:

 I used to really like my moustache bars, but now I don't, so I kind of
 wonder about angles, too. I did have albatross bars on that bike for a
 while, and a different seat. Either I didn't set the m-bars up the same as
 they had been before, or else *I* changed...

 Philip
 www.biketinker.com

 On Thursday, September 6, 2012 10:32:35 PM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:

 Seeing Manny's panda photo has prompted me to wonder: What is the
 attitude (tilt) of your mustache bars?

 I'm on my second mustache-equipped bike, and having the same problem
 finding a comfortable tilt that I had on the first (which I long ago
 switched over to standard drop bars). So I ask of those of you who have
 M-bars and like them: how do you have them set up? Parallel to the ground?
 Tilted?

 Any help the group can offer to find a way to set up the bars so they're
 comfortable for more than an hour's ride would be much appreciated.

 --Eric Love the Look, Hate the Feel Norris

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Re: [RBW] Zunow 650B frameset on Ebay

[Lee Chae]

I'm pretty sure this is Sean's (one of the iBOB moderators). I'll post to
the 650B list.

Lee
SF, CA

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 2:34 PM, mikel66...@juno.com mikel66...@juno.comwrote:


 http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Zunow-KYGM-Custom-650b-Randonneur-Frame-Fork-Herse-Singer-Touring-/320973055133?pt=Road_Bikeshash=item4abb7c249d

 i find this interesting. perhaps someone can post to the 650B list, its
 not mine

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Re: [RBW] Re: s24 Suggestions in Marin? Leaving from SF?

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I would second Hawk Camp at Hawk Hill in the Marin Headlands. China Camp is
about 30 miles from SF. So, that would be tough to get back in the morning
for work unless you break camp super early (although you might could
incorporate the ferry into your return trip).

Lee
SF, CA

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 Hawk camp is a free campsite super close. No water though .

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Re: [RBW] Mystery Bike!

[Lee Chae]

Nice, Thomas! I used to ride a Schwinn Spitfire 5 all over the streets of
San Francisco. This thing takes me back to those good days, albeit in much,
much upgraded form! Thanks for sharing.

Lee
SF, CA

On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J 
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 Is here, but no time to assemble.  But here's a pic...

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Poster

[Lee Chae]

I felt the same way. If you block the feet with your finger/hand, you lose
the personality of the kid. And the kid is really what the poster is about,
imo. In addition, without the feet he looks imprisoned. Finally, with the
feet, the wheel is free to spin, and that's something kids (including us
big ones) like to do when they see a wheel, give it a spin (at least me and
my little dude like to!).

Lee
SF, CA

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 9:44 AM, grant grant...@gmail.com wrote:

 The feet are the best part! Block out the feet and the image loses its
 balance. Older bike posters had naked women holding handlebars and flying
 through the cosmos---I can only imagine the Realist Uproar over that. But
 Rene, you can't be sure that the bike wasn't suspended above the ground,
 staged for the photo-shoot. In this photo, Keven was behind Milo, hands on
 his waist. No children were harmed nor pout at risk during the photo
 session. If you show up on a Tuesday (Milo's day here at Riv, every week)
 and his feel are in a cast or bandagedpure coincidence, I swear!
 G


 On Monday, June 25, 2012 5:38:31 PM UTC-7, René wrote:

 I got my poster today, as I was out traveling last week. Everyone who has
 posted so far has had nothing bad to say about it, so it feels that many in
 the bunch feel that nothing that comes out of RBW has any flaws at all.

 While I like the poster, and do not regret buying it sight unseen, I
 can't say that it is what I expected it would be. I didn't look at the
 artist's website so I had no preconceived notions except for what my own
 sense of excitement at the mention of Rivendell.

 Since those who have not bought it yet can actually see what it's about
 on the Blug section, I'm going to be a bit more specific in my comments:

 I like it, but am not overwhelmed by it. What does bother me, though, is
 seeing the boys foot/shoe showing under the tire. Aesthetically (or
 whatever term is appropriate) it bugs me because my mind questions how can
 that be possible. Is he lifting the bike? Doesn't seem so, did then someone
 rolled the bike over his foot? Doesn't seem so either as the bike doesn't
 seem to be tilted up. Anyway...

 Other than that detail, I believe that like almost all of the RBW frame
 colors (with the except of the Hunqapillar gray) the more I look at it, the
 more it will grow on me. That is, unless the issue with the foot under the
 wheel also makes me more and more uncomfortable...

 Can anyone come up with my explanation that allows me to go Aha!!! and
 makes the whole foot thing make sense?

 At least if I end up not liking it at all, I paid the lowest price by
 buying it unseen. I do like RBW's price escalation scheme as it supports us
 wild risk takers... :-D

 Hope no one gets mad at me for this post...

 René

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Re: [RBW] Re: OT(ish): Is there such thing as a modern mixte touring bike?

[Lee Chae]

The Soma Buena Vista has the eyelets needed for racks and fenders, and is
touted as having sports touring geometry. $500 for frame and fork:

http://store.somafab.com/sobuvifrfo.html

Best,
Lee
SF, CA

On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Scot Brooks scothinck...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey William,
 The Betty WOULD be in the mix, being that it's an absolutely extraordinary
 bicycle, but my budget would be almost entirely tapped. That, combined with
 the fact that I don't think low rider racks work with the Riv braze-ons.
 Another consideration is that I really want to give some business to one of
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Re: [RBW] Re: OT(ish): Is there such thing as a modern mixte touring bike?

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Sorry, Scott. My bad for not seeing your 38mm tire width requirement.
Outside of the head tube and brake-type issues, I do think the Buena Vistas
can handle 650Bs if cush is what you are after.

Best,
Lee
SF, CA

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 I eliminated the Buena Vista for tire clearance (can only fit 700x28 with
 fenders), and for the 1.125 headtube. Otherwise you're right, it's a sweet
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Re: [RBW] Re: OT(ish): Is there such thing as a modern mixte touring bike?

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I hate when reality dashes my daydreaming :) Good luck on the hunt.

Lee

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 Good point on the 650b Lee. I'd love to go that route, but I'm restricted
 in that I already have a nice set of 700c wheels ready for the build. Other
 than that, tires, dyno headlamp, fenders, stem, cassette, and pedals are
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Re: [RBW] Re: Stolen Rivendell on ebay

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One thing to make sure of is what type of coverage you have via renter's
insurance. Some policies offer replacement value, which covers you for
the cost of replacing your bike with a like bike at current prices (minus
deductible, of course). Other policies will only cover you for the initial
cost of the bike minus depreciation (and deductible). The first type of
policy is the one I prefer.

My second insurance policy is a secret, locked chamber *inside* my house
where I store my bikes...

Lee
SF, CA



On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote:

 Your renter's insurance should cover.  Possibly a clever insurer may try
 to carve out stolen bicycles and baby carts for New York area policies.
  Check the policy language on theft.


 On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 1:46:55 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote:

 Somewhat on topic but what insurance covers bikes? I dont own my house or
 own a car but do you think renter's insurance would cover it?  Living in
 brooklyn and all I usually rode beater bikes and didnt take too big a hit
 when they got swiped but if my Hilsen disappeared I would be out a big
 chunk of change. Does it matter that I bought it used? Thanks to anyone who
 is more of an adult than me here, haha.

 On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:59 PM, cyclotour...@gmail.com 
 cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

 Usually insurance buy-back is pretty inexpensive, so would be a good way
 to get it back. Then either have a new(!) bike or sell it to someone who
 would love and care for it.


 On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:21:37 AM UTC-7, Taylor wrote:

 I did claim it, and replaced it with a Boulder Bicycle. If it's
 recovered I'll likely have to buy it back from the insurance company if I
 want it, I'm not sure how that amount is decided or anything like that,
 though.

 The Columbus police have the auction info and are following up.

 We'll see what happens!

 On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:52:30 PM UTC-4, Skenry wrote:

 Its also important to figure out if the original owner had ever
 claimed the loss on insurance.  Then the insurance company may need to be
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[RBW] Betty F. on Bike-to-Work Day

[Lee Chae]

Here in the SF Bay Area, it's Bike-to-Work Day. A blog on one of the
local e-rags had a nice call-out of the Betty Foy:

http://blog.sfgate.com/bicycle/2012/05/10/bike-to-work-day-am-stations-had-coffee-but-no-bacon/

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Re: [RBW] Any New York Rivendellish shops?

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Hi Manny. I rented some bikes from a shop down near the West Village
(http://www.bikeshopny.com/) and rode up along the Hudson River
Greenway and into Central Park. We had a lot of fun. The shop is not
very Rivendellish, but it's a nice starting and end point for a big
loop of the city.

Here are some pics:
http://tinyurl.com/79c3zsd

Best,
Lee
SF, CA


On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Manuel Acosta
manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Planning on heading to New York with the lady friend for spring break. Like 
 any good couple we already picked a day to ourselves where we get to see 
 the beauty of New York without each other. (It's a interesting relationship I 
 know but hey it works for us.) My general belief is that the best way to see 
 a traffic ridden city is via bike. Not so sure if I want to bring my own bike 
 to New York or if I want to rent one there. Anyone recommend any good bike 
 shops to rent/see/visit/gawk at in the Big Apple? Better yet anyone free to 
 take a spin while I'm there?
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Re: [RBW] Done talking myself into like the moustache.

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Hi Scotty. The search for the right bars for the right bike can definitely
be categorized under the journey of self-discovery. There are a lot of neat
handlebars out there, and a good number of them will sing like sirens as
you sail from one website to the next. But, I think what it all boils down
to is that 90% (or more--probably more) of the time we ride a given bike,
we are riding in a certain position. Find out what that position is and try
to recreate that on the bike you are working on, given the differences in
geometry, saddle position, handlebars, etc.

For instance, if you are feeling that the moustaches are too long a reach,
and you are in an upright-y position given the dirt drops, you may need to
move your saddle back a bit, to recreate the right distance between hands
and center of gravity that other, comfortable setups gave you.

In other words, I have had a bit of whiskey and beer tonight and am now
meting out advice, so take that into account

Good luck,
Lee


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 I have given myself about a year to like my moustache handlebars. I really
 want to like them, they look so freaking good on my bike, but I dont. Now I
 am just not sure what direction I want to go, but I know that I want to be
 more upright, and I dont want to replace the whole cockpit. I want bars
 that will take my roadbike brake levers and bar end shifters. Even with the
 dirt drop stem I feel I am leaning forward too far in the position where
 the brakes are. I could use some suggestions for bars that give me a closer
 flat section near the brakes that wont force me to buy everything new. Just
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Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo: What's in a name?

[Lee Chae]

Either pronunciation in reference to a cowboy rodeo actually works, as I've
been corrected many times over by my Salinas friends.

Lee
SF, CA

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 9:28 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's funny. I like the degree of ambiguity in it. Cowboy fans can call
 it RO-deo, non-cowboy fans can call it ro-DAY-o.

 Today everybody's a winner!



 On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
 thill@gmail.com wrote:

 Pretty sure it's the cowboy thing. Some people who don't approve of
 cowboy rodeos were mad about that at the beginning


 On Thursday, April 5, 2012 10:29:53 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:

 Do I have this wrong? I've always pronounced it RO-deo, like the cowboy
 thing, which always struck me as a little odd for a bicycle. Is it possible
 that it's ro-DAY-o, like the Drive in Beverly Hills, or the town 30 miles
 from here?

 Joe hmm.. Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.

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Re: [RBW] SF Randonneurs Populaire this Saturday

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Hi Manny. If you are used to doing 40-mile-plus-type rides, then you have
nothing to worry about. Just wear what you normally wear and ride like you
normally ride. Eat what you normally eat. To add on to Esteban's advice,
also bring a plastic sandwich bag to hold your brevet card, receipts, and
the pen. It keeps them together and it'll help with the forecasted rains :)

Have fun!
Lee

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manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Having been inspired by many people on the forum to ride a Randonneur
 event, I'm planning to ride the populaire this Saturday. Anyone else
 going? Any advice for someone who hasn't ridden a Randonneur event
 before? I'm still kinda worried about the control cards and what not.
 More importantly what do I wear? Hopefully I can tag along with
 someone who knows what their doing.

 -Manny What sport am I doing again? Acosta

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Re: [RBW] Best rain cover for a Brooks?

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Well I just ran an experiment for you. I had an Aardvark cover over the B17
on my Quickbeam, with a plastic bag over the cover as an extra layer. I
guess the wind blew the bag off at some point during the afternoon. The
bike has been out in the rain for hours. The Aardvark cover is soaked, but
underneath, the saddle is dry.

I won't make a habit of relying soley on the Aardvark though. I generally
like to use a shower cap or plastic bag as a final external layer.

Lee
SF, CA


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 What is the best way to protect a leather saddle from the rain?  I
 know there are various saddle covers, but I see more people with a
 plastic bag over their seats.  What about the underside?  Do fenders
 stop the water spray well enough?

 Thanks
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Re: [RBW] Moderators

[Lee Chae]

Hi Luke. There have been a lot of issues with Google Groups in general
lately. You should read the sticky Another Great Googly Moogly Issue
posted by the list moderator at the top of the RBW Google Groups page
(viewable via the Google Groups interface). That explains things.

Best,
Lee
SF, CA

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Re: [RBW] Rando Advice

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Hi Smitty. Congrats on your decision for a new adventure. I have a few
cents to offer:

- The switch from 40mm to 32mm tires will change how your bike handles,
imo. The difference may not be a big issue for you, but I'd be hesitant to
make big changes before going on my longest ride ever. I think if you are
comfortable on your Supremes, you should go with them. The Kojak slicks and
Cypres may give you a little boost in perceived effort/speed. If that's
really important to you, I'd get them now and try them out over the next
couple of weeks.

- Similarly, I think good advice on the food issue is go with what you
know. One approach is to see if there are places along the route (ideally
the controls), where you can purchase snacks. If so, I'd pack enough food
for a couple legs of the route. Then, just eat stuff from the controls (if
they appear to be places that sell food you like). For instance, on rides
of that distance, I usually pack a sandwich and a sandwich bag of munchies
(fig bars, etc.). I usually buy a lunch at one point during the ride, and
if I feel like I need a break or boost on the back half of the ride, I'll
stop for chips and a Coke/V8/Gatorade, whatever. I usually snack on the
munchies as I ride. The home-made sandwich is my back-up. I'm sure this
will be a good learning experience in terms of figuring out what works for
you fuel-wise. Overall, I say just have a plan in place in terms of knowing
if and where you can get food along the route, and filling in your
between-stop and emergency needs by packing a few things in your bag.

- My tool kit is the same one I take for any ride or commute. I have it
pared down to the essentials for fixing flats (tire levers, patch kit,
spare tube) and making adjustments to saddle and handlebar position and
brakes (wrenches). I also carry a chain tool and spare links, a tire boot
(square of material I snipped from a FedEx envelope), lab gloves, and some
zip ties. I don't carry extra shifter/brake cables, chain ring bolts, or
brake pads, but I know folks who do. Depending on the length and
anticipated light conditions, I'll take a set of back-up batteries for my
tail light (I have a generator front light). My back-up front light is a
headlamp, which I only bring when I really think it may come into play
(e.g. really crappy weather). In other words, I plan my tool kit around
needs that I've experienced as opposed to all anticipated repairs. (If I
ever go on an extended bike camping trip, I will probably do the latter.)

- A couple of things I also pack is a small bag of electrolyte pills
(Endurolytes), and I have two packs of goo I shove in a small pocket on my
bag. The goo, which I hate, is for real emergencies (mine or others). I've
known people who have suffered real bonks and it made me think it would be
a good thing to have something just in case... As for the electrolytes, I
sometimes get thigh cramps on long rides on hot days, and I find these help
me out. They also help settle my stomach if it starts getting upset over
the combination of constant riding and eating that usually go hand-in-hand
on these rides.

I hope you enjoy it, and don't forget to post a ride report!

Lee
SF, CA


On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Smitty-A-Go-Go 54ca...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm thinking of riding in a 100k populaire in a couple weeks. I know it's
 not a tremendous distance but it'll be my first rando event and my longest
 ride ever.

 I plan to do it on my Hilsen... I've got the necessary reflectors, lights
 (battery), fenders, and a small sackville saddle bag + front trunk sack to
 carry stuff.

 I've got 40mm Marathon Supremes on there now. I imagine I'd be the only
 one with 40mm tires. Not that that's a deal breaker but I've been
 contemplating getting a set of faster tires and this seems like as good a
 reason as any to make a purchase. What sort of tires do people normally
 ride on such an event? I love all the Schwalbes I've had and am tempted to
 get Kojaks out of brand loyalty. I was also eyeing the 32mm Grand Bois
 Cypress on Jan's site. As far as I can tell Jan is the rando guy and I
 can't imagine he'd sell crappy tires.

 What sort of foods do people eat? I'd rather avoid things in the power goo
 and protein pudding food group. I went for a ride with some roadie types a
 few weeks ago and brought dates as my snack. I was keeping up ok before I
 ate the dates but the dates sat heavy in my belly and I became a slug.

 How extensive of a tool kit do people generally bring on a ride like this?
 I generally carry more tools than I've ever really needed on the road.
 Flats are really my only stop-me-in-my-tracks roadside repair I've had to
 deal with. I'm tempted to minimize the tool kit but don't want to go too
 small.

 I realize the ride is short enough that I could probably get by doing
 business as usual and get through it but thought I'd solicit advice from
 those who have gone before. Perhaps I could appear more sophisticated than
 I really am. Any 

Re: [RBW] Re: Who's going to NAHBS?

[Lee Chae]

My initial plans to ride up to the show have been canceled due to
other events. But, I was planning on creating a ride based on the SF
Randonneurs' Davis 200K route. You can find the cue sheet here:

http://sfrandonneurs.org/route-archive.htm

A few notes:
- I haven't ridden this route, but I know that SFR tries to choose
safe and scenic routes where possible, which was why I was planning on
using it. With that said, they do this brevet at night and I don't
know whether the day-time vs. night-time car traffic patterns differ
greatly.

- You'll need to figure out which BART station you want to use as the
ride start, and how to link that up to the start of the cue sheet.

- You'll need to map your own leg from Davis to Sacramento, but I'm
sure that Google can find you some good ones.

Happy riding,
Lee
SF, CA


On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:
 I've ridden and/or driven most of this route. IMHO, it's not terribly
 scenic, and it is mostly flat. I would especially urge caution on 160/River
 Road--narrow, two-lane road with high speed traffic.

 Personally, I would rather take BART to Richmond and then take Amtrak to
 Sacramento. That will put you in town just a few blocks from the NAHBS.
 You'll have more time to see the show, which will be *much* more interesting
 than the rather boring, flat roads of Solano County.

 --Eric N

 On Feb 28, 2012, at 9:00 AM, JPTwins gcis...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was originally planning on taking Amtrak up from the bay area on Saturday,
 seeing the show on Sunday, and riding back to SF via Petaluma on Monday and
 Tuesday.  it didn't even occur to me to ride from Pittsburg!  Looking on
 google maps, this is the bike route that i saw: http://g.co/maps/463ah
 Manny  Adam, is this what you're thinking? It's super flat, but is it an
 interesting ride? Now I might have to do that Saturday instead!  Maybe even
 visit RivHQ that morning

 geoff
 boston, ma


 On Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:01:09 AM UTC-5, Adam wrote:

 I'll be riding up from Pittsburg/Baypoint as well.  Leaving Friday
 afternoon and camping at Brannan Island.  Riding the rest of the way
 there on Saturday morning.

 Perhaps we should meet up Manny?

 I'll sport my RBW pin and keep a look out for a friendly face at the
 show.

 Best,
 Adam

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Re: [RBW] Re: East Coast Rivendells / BOBs

[Lee Chae]

All you East Coasters seem pretty well represented, at least according
to one source:

http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/interactive-google-maps/rivendell-owners-map/

Happy riding,
Lee
SF, CA

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Peter F phfmu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nope, Croton Aquaduct ride and Riv Rally East are two separate events.
 The former is a one day local ride. The latter is the weekend long
 rally organized by Montclair Bobby, this year scheduled for April
 21-22 down in VA? Search the recent archives and there's copious
 discussion of it.


 On Feb 16, 2:33 pm, Joe K kube...@aol.com wrote:
 Thanks for all the nice responses.  It's nice to know there are some
 others of us out there.  I may look into the Riv Rally East (same as
 the Croton ride?) and see if the dates work out for me.

 Peter F, yes, I remember our conversations from before, and remember
 your work...someday I'll get to one of the Avian concerts, and sorry I
 haven't thus far!  Similar to you (but older) I used to haul my kids
 around in a trailer; back then it was a C-dale Bugger.

 Would be very happy to meet up with any of you local folks.  I'm in
 Staten Island, and for all I know I'm the sole Rivendell owner on the
 island, though my wife has an XO-1.  I'll try to bookmark this thread
 to save your addresses.

 Joe

 On Feb 16, 10:24 am, Norman norr...@gmail.com wrote:







  I live in Montclair, NJ.  I've ridden in the TA Century (or part of
  it) a couple of times and hope to do it again this year.  If anyone
  has info on when the Croton Aqueduct BOB ride is, please post.
  Norman (Sam H)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Touring Load and Packing list with weights

[Lee Chae]

Mike, Rex, JimD: Thanks for the SteriPen input.

Lee
SF, CA

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 7:20 AM, jimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote:
 Kent Petersen discusses his use of a SteriPen on his blog.
 http://kentsbike.blogspot.com/
 He used one when he rode the Tour Divide.
 -JimD

 On Jan 18, 2012, at 9:37 AM, Rex Kerr wrote:

  Just to tag onto Kelly's post (sorry, Kelly), does anyone have experience 
  with how well those sterilizing pens work? Pros and cons?

 I carry one (SteriPen Classic Bundle w/ Nalgene) and have never gotten sick, 
 though I've only used it in areas where I probably could have safely imbibed 
 without sterilizing the water.  I carry tablets as a backup in case the pen 
 breaks or the batteries give up unexpectedly.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Touring Load and Packing list with weights

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On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote:
 What do you use for water purification.  Generally I just filter with t shirt 
 and boil.   I have been looking at some purification systems.. that is an 
 area I'm completely clueless.

Just to tag onto Kelly's post (sorry, Kelly), does anyone have
experience with how well those sterilizing pens work? Pros and cons?

Thanks,
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Re: [RBW] Celebrity sighting on brevet

[Lee Chae]

Ahh, thanks, Thomas. I am behind the times, yet again, I see!

Best,
Lee
SF, CA

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J 
thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote:

 **
 That feline's already exited the Saddlesack...

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 *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Celebrity sighting on brevet

 There's something intriguing about that bike, BUbba. If I'm right, you may
 want to take the pic down or be banned from Riv for a while!! ;)  (I could
 be wrong, though...)

 Lee
 SF, CA



 On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 7:05 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 nowhere.  Name that rider:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/6324307454/in/photostream

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Re: [RBW] Long-low for sale in SF Craigslist

[Lee Chae]

HI Thomas. How about visiting RIv (I'm assuming you're local given the SF
Craigslist link) and checking out a new Sam Hillborne ($1050 frame/fork)?
It would make for a great all-purpose bike and is quality, comfortable
steel. And, with the extra $300 you save on the frame/fork, you can pick
some useful accessories, like racks, lights, and fenders, etc.

Just my two cents.

Lee
SF, CA

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:40 PM, Thomas B darcyspeedobot...@gmail.comwrote:

 I wanted to get some advice on a recent posting for a +10 year old
 Long Low advertised on Bay area Craigslist. I've read some of the
 older comments on this discussion group and it seems like a frameset
 that has been offered and discussed before several times, albeit at
 higher prices.

 Please check out the post. 'Rivendell Long Low Preproduction - 60cm
 Frame  Fork Only - $1350'  -
 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/2694438431.html

 The price seems a bit high to me seeing as the complete bike retailed
 at ~$2450, back in the late 90's (?). Also note there is a small dent
 in the TT.

 I am new to bikes and RBW but would like a quality comfortable steel
 bike. Any advice you guys could give would be appreciated. Does the
 fact it is preproduction make it any less of a bike? Are canti brakes
 any good?

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Re: [RBW] Have you polished scratched Nitto?

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On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 3:28 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a used abused S83 seatpost.  It's totally bomber, but I'd like to
 pretty it up if possible.  What's the conventional wisdom for polishing up
 seatpost scratches?

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/6330310531/in/photostream

 Steel wool?  I'd be fine with consistent satin.


Hi William. I have been doing some web surfing to learn about cleaning up
some old bike parts that requires more than a toothbrush and de-greaser.
This post uses a scratched up seatpost as an example and seems pretty
appropriate to your interest, though I can't vouch for the method:

http://prollyisnotprobably.com/2009/10/tutorial_polishing_bicycle_par.php

Good luck!
Lee
SF, CA

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Re: [RBW] Celebrity sighting on brevet

[Lee Chae]

There's something intriguing about that bike, BUbba. If I'm right, you may
want to take the pic down or be banned from Riv for a while!! ;)  (I could
be wrong, though...)

Lee
SF, CA



On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 7:05 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 nowhere.  Name that rider:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/6324307454/in/photostream



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Re: [RBW] Riv,Miyata, and Pelican stolen in SF

[Lee Chae]

Hey JL and Ray. Sorry to hear about the theft, JL. Recently, there's
been a well-documented stolen bike spree going on in SF. Areas that I
know of that have been hit are: the Richmond, Cole Valley, Inner
Sunset, and the Mission. All have been garage break-ins with very
similar characteristics. Three apartments within one block of my
building have been hit (including my building). I don't know if it's
the same person(s) doing it, but in the case of my building,
he/she/they left the bikes that had their frames u-locked to something
substantial, and stole those whose frames were cabled. That
particularly sucked for my building, as it's hard to u-lock bikes to
the racks there and most people had some sort of u-lock+cable
combination.

For the Mission thefts, I referenced people to this SFPD officer, who
specializes in bike theft: steven dot pomatto at sfgov dot org

JL, you might want to contact him as I'm hoping that this will add to
SFPD awareness of this particular spree.

Good luck,
Lee
SF, CA

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 5:08 AM, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 By the way, I ask about the district because my dentist just had his bike
 ripped from his garage. He lives in the Richmond District.

 
 From: Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Mon, September 5, 2011 8:06:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [RBW] Riv,Miyata, and Pelican stolen in SF

 JL -- Really a drag. I will absolutely be on the look out.  I commute by
 bike every weekday, and see lots of other bikes on my normal route
 (Richmond, GG Park, Panhandle, Lower Haight, Market corridor, SoMa). I keep
 bikes in my SF garage, too. May I ask in which district you reside?

 Ray

 
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 To: internet-...@googlegroups.com; rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Mon, September 5, 2011 7:58:09 PM
 Subject: [RBW] Riv,Miyata, and Pelican stolen in SF

 Hello,

 My GF and I just got back from a weekend out of town and three of our four
 bikes were stolen from our garage in San Francisco.

 54cm 1996 riv road in blue with mostly dura ace 7700 parts

 52cm BDB pelican with a mix of parts and White Hetres

 47cm Miyata teal powdercoat and 650b wheels with albatross bars

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/subfascia1/  - This photosite has pictures of
 two of the bikes on it and i'll upload a third as soon as I am able.

 I would appreciate everyone keeping an eyeout and please email if you see
 any of the bikes or think you have any info.


 JL

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Re: [RBW] A Stolen Surly (Posting For A Customer)

[Lee Chae]

This really sucks. I live in the same apartment building as the
victim, and I was the person who set up the bike racks. There were at
least five bikes stolen, along with some wheels and one saddle+post.
The bikes were all locked to the racks, some with cables plus u-locks,
others with u-locks. The garage is protected by a keypad-coded garage
door. That is the main theft prevention device. I always hypothesized
that once a thief got in, none of the bikes would be safe if the thief
was really prepared. The thief tried to get through the cable securing
two of my bikes, but it looks like he/she/they couldn't make it
through the cable. I don't remember the brand, but I bought it because
it was heavy duty. It wasn't Onguard or Kryptonite or MasterLock.

That Surly was nice, and something special given the couplers.

Here's some of my documentation:

http://tinyurl.com/3fleq8m

Lee
SF, CA



On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 1:21 PM, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nabbed it out of his garage.

 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/2541745595.html

 Thanks for keeping your eyes peeled.


 After some neighbors lost bikes and other things out of their garages I've
 started locking my bikes in the garage.  Very inconvenient. :(

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