Re: [RE-wrenches] Adding acid to a battery

2012-02-24 Thread Kent Osterberg
to equalize the battery until there is enough room for the replacement acid. Fortunately, it doesn't have to be done in one step. Since there was acid between the inner and outer case originally, I'd inspect carefully to make sure it is not filled with acid again. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fwd: AC Coupled

2012-02-18 Thread Kent Osterberg
Larry, It sounds like the customer can power all loads with the generator and the non-critical load may even be the motivation for starting the generator? How about a relay that opens the SunnyBoy output or the Sunny Island input when the generator runs? Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar

Re: [RE-wrenches] 24 vs. 48

2012-01-17 Thread Kent Osterberg
, a 100-amp 24-volt charge puts about 25 amps (if you are careful with the wiring and the batteries aren't sulfated) into each string of batteries. A 50-amp 48-volt charger would accomplish the same thing. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com t: 541-568-4882 On 1/17

Re: [RE-wrenches] 24 vs. 48

2012-01-17 Thread Kent Osterberg
the charge rate (C/X) that the batteries see is the same either way. Considering that lots of parallel strings of batteries is trouble waiting to happen and that a 48-volt system is more efficient, except for the smallest systems 48-volts is usually the way to go. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc

Re: [RE-wrenches] 24 vs. 48

2012-01-17 Thread Kent Osterberg
the charge rate (C/X) that the batteries see is the same either way. Considering that lots of parallel strings of batteries is trouble waiting to happen and that a 48-volt system is more efficient, except for the smallest systems 48-volts is usually the way to go. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc

Re: [RE-wrenches] 24 vs. 48

2012-01-17 Thread Kent Osterberg
cells removed. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com t: 541-568-4882 On 1/17/2012 11:19 AM, Mark Frye wrote: Interesting. I can choose an OB VFX3524 w/ 85 ADC or an OB VFX3648 w/ 45 ADC of charging capacity. And assuming that I need C/10 during bulk charging

Re: [RE-wrenches] battery venting; Corrosion

2012-01-16 Thread Kent Osterberg
it is intended to to cover all batteries and it is intentionally conservative. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com t: 541-568-4882 On 1/6/2012 5:53 PM, John DeBoever wrote: Wrenches, Thank you for your patience (as I was busy all day). I appreciate the valid

Re: [RE-wrenches] Request for Gennie Recommendation

2012-01-09 Thread Kent Osterberg
are air cooled. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com t: 541-568-4882 On 1/9/2012 7:59 PM, Allan Sindelar wrote: Wrenches: We have cautiously agreed to take on a substantial upgrade and rehabilitation of a poorly designed 48V off-grid system. Our upgrade

Re: [RE-wrenches] battery venting

2012-01-06 Thread Kent Osterberg
Wrenches, While looking for information regarding standards about battery room ventilation I ran into this link, which has some good information and is certainly worth everyone's attention. http://www.belvoir.army.mil/safety/inc/battery-explosion.asp Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC to AC derate

2012-01-05 Thread Kent Osterberg
Ray, The balancing transformer isn't allowed with the GVFX inverters. In a dual FX inverter system, using the balancing transformer or not using it is nearly a wash. I think you save 15 watts when the inverter is asleep but the transformer losses are 10 or 12 watts. Kent Osterberg Blue

Re: [RE-wrenches] battery venting; Corrosion

2012-01-05 Thread Kent Osterberg
John, Could you clarify units? "0.418 Liters/AH" is that per charge cycle? per hour? per minute? per cell? Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com On 1/5/2012 4:18 PM, John DeBo

Re: [RE-wrenches] battery venting

2011-12-31 Thread Kent Osterberg
, but what happens when the power vent fails? It will fail. I've seen the bearings wear out on one and another that failed when insects got into the blades and gummed it up to the point that the motor stalled. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com t: 541-568-4882

Re: [RE-wrenches] Vent Pipes under an array?

2011-12-15 Thread Kent Osterberg
Here, by code, vents must extend 12 above the roof line. It's a bad idea to cover them with PV modules. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com t: 541-568-4882 On 12/15/2011 11:31 AM, Allen Frishman wrote: Wrenchers, My local JHA has recently decided that vents

Re: [RE-wrenches] NEC 480 - battery enclosure question

2011-12-14 Thread Kent Osterberg
the H2 levels below the explosive threshold. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com t: 541-568-4882 On 12/14/2011 4:46 PM, d...@foxfire-energy.com wrote: I've mentioned it in the past, and got the impression it went over like a fart in church, but it seems to me

Re: [RE-wrenches] Diversion load for AC coupled system

2011-11-29 Thread Kent Osterberg
coordination issues. The Tristar 60 manual says to keep diversion loads below 45 amps (or somewhere close to that). I think its a reliability issue so with a secondary shut down method, you might be okay pushing it a bit. I'm not sure how you get two of them to work together. Kent Osterberg

Re: [RE-wrenches] calculating low string voltage

2011-11-29 Thread Kent Osterberg
true for c-Si or poly-Si. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. www.bluemountainsolar.com t: 541-568-4882 On 11/29/2011 11:48 AM, Kirk Herander wrote: I am in debate with a PE over calculation of low voltage of a series string on a hot day. He insists that an arbitrary high cell temp

Re: [RE-wrenches] Push-in Wire Connectors

2011-10-21 Thread Kent Osterberg
300.9 but rather from 110.3 (B) that requires equipment to be installed in accordance with its listing. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Glenn Burt wrote: Kent, Can you direct me to a code citation that says that splices made inside a NEMA 4 rated enclosure must be suitable

Re: [RE-wrenches] Push-in Wire Connectors

2011-10-20 Thread Kent Osterberg
Jason, The roof is a wet location so connectors rated for wet locations are required. The NEMA 4 rating of the junction box doesn't change matters. Kent Osteberg Blue Mountain Solar Jason Szumlanski wrote: Anyone see a problem using Ideal In-Sure Push-In Wire Connectors in

Re: [RE-wrenches] Module Load Rating

2011-10-07 Thread Kent Osterberg
that an appropriate safety factor needs to be applied. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Jamie Johnson wrote: Dave, thanks for the clarification on the difference between NRTL and IEC tests.   Wouldn't it make sense for the manufacturers to put the negative and positive test and certified

Re: [RE-wrenches] ground

2011-09-30 Thread Kent Osterberg
grounding electrode, the changes in 2011 should remove it. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. Richard L Ratico wrote: As Dan points out, 250.52(A)(3) specifies several installation requirements in order for a concrete encased electode to qualify as a permitted Grounding Electrode. A pole mount

Re: [RE-wrenches] ground

2011-09-30 Thread Kent Osterberg
Ray, I believe that a pole-mounted or grounded-mounted PV array is considered a structure and requires a ground electrode per 250.32. Perhaps the exception would cover the possibility a installing very small system without a ground electrode. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. Ray

Re: [RE-wrenches] ground

2011-09-29 Thread Kent Osterberg
) together. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. toddc...@finestplanet.com wrote: Does anyone know if it is ok to use the rebar in a pole mount foundation as a ufer ground? I need to ask the inspector too, but thought I'd ask here first.   Todd

Re: [RE-wrenches] Grounding DPW MPM.

2011-09-20 Thread Kent Osterberg
Jesse, I use a Wiley WEEB 9.5 bonding washers between each module and rail, a WEEB 6.7 lug on each rail, and a WEEB 6.7 on the pole. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. Jesse Dahl wrote: Hello, I have been looking at ground mount methods lately, specifically the DPW Multi

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sharp modules

2011-09-13 Thread Kent Osterberg
that water will enter between the glass and frame, freeze, and bow the frames. I think silicon sealant between the glass and frame makes a more water tight seal. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Kirpal Khalsa wrote: Happy Friday.so i was installing some sharp 240w modules today and noticed

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupling

2011-09-03 Thread Kent Osterberg
Brian, Is this the drawing? Magnum ac coupled diagram from Google cache. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Allan Sindelar wrote: Brian, Good job of laying it out. Now here's the part I'm missing. If as you say the grid-tied inverter(s), either micro or string, are connected

Re: [RE-wrenches] pole mounts

2011-07-27 Thread Kent Osterberg
) that may take many years to show up. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar toddc...@finestplanet.com wrote: Wrenches,   Fact or fiction: Adding concrete to the inside of a pole mount pipe makes it stronger.   Thanks,   Todd Sent from Finest Planet WebMail

Re: [RE-wrenches] 1987 NEC

2011-07-19 Thread Kent Osterberg
ally the part about shorting the array. Can anyone shed light on this? Regards, -Hans From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Kent Osterberg Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 10:07 PM To: g...@icaruss

Re: [RE-wrenches] 1987 NEC

2011-07-19 Thread Kent Osterberg
hat all dc loads may be energized to the potential of the PV array is troubling. Especially with the possibility now of a 600-volt PV array charging a battery system. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Hans Frederickson wrote: Kent, I'm not a geezer yet, but thanks to my dad I doh

Re: [RE-wrenches] 1987 NEC

2011-07-18 Thread Kent Osterberg
Gary, No one else has come up with a 1987 NEC. If you can get a copy of 1987 section 690.5 (I think it was 690-5 back then), I'd appreciate it. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Gary Willett wrote: Kent: I am a member of the International Association of Electrical Inspectors

[RE-wrenches] 1987 NEC

2011-07-15 Thread Kent Osterberg
I'm looking for the text of 1987 NEC 690.5 to compare with 2011 version. If any of you geezers have kept copies that old, please contact me off list. Thanks. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address

Re: [RE-wrenches] Aluminum Module Frame To Galvanized Uni-Strut

2011-07-12 Thread Kent Osterberg
cuts of the Unistrut painted with galvanizing or stainless paint? Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. Gary Willett wrote: It was brought to my attention that I had an error in my original post. Here's the corrected text: Fellow Wrenches: I am involved in the commissioning of a 300kw

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generator/SQFlex problem

2011-07-09 Thread Kent Osterberg
will handle the necessary current without a heat sink. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Allan Sindelar wrote: Phil and Wrenches, Thank you for the response; good food for thought. We looked at Aerovironment as a result of your suggestion, but it appears to be out of production and unavailable

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generator/SQFlex problem

2011-07-06 Thread Kent Osterberg
the power supply from pv to ac. The hard part may be locating suitable relays. With a 100K buffer tank, exactness on the timing of the switchover shouldn't be necessary. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Allan Sindelar wrote: Wrenches, A good client of ours is a rancher in the New Mexico

Re: [RE-wrenches] how would you measure a partial short circuit

2011-07-01 Thread Kent Osterberg
, in fact all the conductors, may be energized in reference to ground. Use appropriate personal protective gear. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Nick Vida wrote: Hi wrenches. I had an interesting case today that I have been thinking about since it happened. I dont have all

Re: [RE-wrenches] Warranty Claim Based On Enphase Monitoring Data

2011-06-10 Thread Kent Osterberg
inverter and the average loss for the system will be less, but it shows that the ac wiring loss is a significant part of the discrepancy. Also, even the revenue grade meter is not perfect - typically ±0.25% when new. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar m...@solar-energy-solutions.com wrote: Mark

Re: [RE-wrenches] Two Buildings, Two Services, One Roof

2011-04-18 Thread Kent Osterberg
ahead of time should make this work smoothly. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Mark Frye wrote: Thanks Nick, 250 talks about two seperate buildings with one service, and 230 talks about one building with two services. I don't think this particular situation has been

Re: [RE-wrenches] Two Buildings, Two Services, One Roof

2011-04-18 Thread Kent Osterberg
. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Mark Frye wrote: Thanks Ken, I still don't see any configuration of equipment that would not involve making an electrical connection between the two grounding systems of the two seperate dwellings In order to provide the required GFP

Re: [RE-wrenches] galvanized barn roofing

2011-04-07 Thread Kent Osterberg
to install extra bracing underneath for almost every bracket. If working over an insulated attic, you won't be able to install very far down from the ridge. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar penobscotso...@midmaine.com wrote: Does anyone have experience mounting arrays on barns with 24"

Re: [RE-wrenches] Grundfos SQ Flex

2011-04-06 Thread Kent Osterberg
two-pole safety switches that may be used to select ac or dc power instead of the Grundfos switch. You might be pushing your luck operating the pressure switch at 213 VDC. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Kirpal Khalsa wrote: Hi allso I have a pumping project using a grundfos SQ Flex pump

Re: [RE-wrenches] Slow clocks

2011-04-04 Thread Kent Osterberg
. Such should be disclosed in any contract to install an off-grid power system. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Kristopher Schmid wrote: I have an off-grid client who tells me that his clocks lose about 1 minute per hour while he is running his backup generator. Has anyone seen this before? Do

Re: [RE-wrenches] sizing a sub-panel used to combinemultipleinverter outputs

2011-03-30 Thread Kent Osterberg
. Now the example doesn't resolve the limitation of backfeeding at the main. Opps! Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Jason Szumlanski wrote: Another key is to remember that this discussion also applies to the conductor between the main panel and subpanel. In a large PV system

Re: [RE-wrenches] sizing a sub-panel used to combine multiple inverter outputs

2011-03-30 Thread Kent Osterberg
. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Al Frishman wrote: Is a monitoring system installed in the Load Center to measure the cumulative kWhs of the inverters considered a load? The type of monitoring device I am talking about has CTs that go around the conductors and the Voltage ref

Re: [RE-wrenches] sizing a sub-panel used to combine multiple inverter outputs

2011-03-29 Thread Kent Osterberg
and the inverters would have to feed the opposite end of the bus bars. If no, the code is not clear on the requirement, but obviously the 80-amp breaker in the main panel limits the maximum current flowing through the sub-panel. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Al Frishman wrote: Hi

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generator and Enphase

2011-03-27 Thread Kent Osterberg
to the utility side of the ATS, a service side tap wasn't required. 2) The service disconnect switch had double lugs (not on my sketch) so there weren't multiple conductor taps. While I only showed one, this system actually had two non-essential panels: one for the house and one for the barn. Kent Osterberg

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generator and Enphase

2011-03-27 Thread Kent Osterberg
is closed, what would stop power from flowing backwards through the transfer switch? Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar wire...@gmail.com wrote: This doesn't solve the reliability concern of a contactor but on a webinar I heard a rep from Schneider say the XW (with GEN and GRID AC IN's

Re: [RE-wrenches] Depth of discharge

2011-03-26 Thread Kent Osterberg
Wrenches, I noticed an error in my reply below when Allan's second comments arrived. Correction: the battery is considered 100% discharged (not 80%) at 10.5 volts (1.75 vpc) under the conditions of use. Kent Kent Osterberg wrote: William, I'll try to add a little to Allan's

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generator and Enphase

2011-03-26 Thread Kent Osterberg
is off. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Mark Frye wrote: Eric, I do not have direct experience with this but have been exploring the issue for a project I am currently doing. My response will be to take the trouble to interconnect the Enphase inverters on the line side

Re: [RE-wrenches] Depth of discharge

2011-03-25 Thread Kent Osterberg
is that routinely charging to only 85% SOC will lead to sulfation problems. That can shorten the battery life too. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. Allan Sindelar wrote: William, I use 80%, as the intent is that this is maximum, not typical. It's directly used to calculate the battery

Re: [RE-wrenches] Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP)

2011-03-19 Thread Kent Osterberg
to return it after the solar maximum). Kent Osterberg Blue Moutain Solar, Inc Allan Sindelar wrote: For those of us less aware of solar flare issues and what we might expect that relates to PV, could someone provide a good link to educate us? Thanks, Allan Allan Sindelar

Re: [RE-wrenches] Meter base minimum conductor size

2011-02-09 Thread Kent Osterberg
/08Murray_pdfs/08Murray_03/03_04-05.pdf Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Carl Adams wrote: Wrenches, We often use a conventional 100A meter base and analog meter as an independent metering system for inverter output. These meters typically have a minimum conductor size of #6 AWG. For smaller systems

Re: [RE-wrenches] outback mate question

2011-02-07 Thread Kent Osterberg
Jay, I've seen that happen. I concluded that it was associated with an AGS fault status. I also reset the Mate to factory defaults and reprogrammed all the AGS settings for the customer. No problem since then. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. jay peltz wrote: HI All, I'm curious

Re: [RE-wrenches] Problem with NABCEP ad

2011-02-06 Thread Kent Osterberg
Larry, You aren't the only one offended. It gives the impression that only NABCEP certified installers are competent, which isn't true. And that every NABCEP certified installer will do a competent job; also not a guaranteed outcome. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. wire

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV voltage at Isc

2011-02-05 Thread Kent Osterberg
, and there would be no voltage or resistance external to the module - but it would still exist within the module. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. Greg Egan wrote: Fellow Scientists, I got in a discussion with a wrench the other day. He is under the impression that when a PV module

Re: [RE-wrenches] Grid Tied AC Disconnect Question

2011-01-27 Thread Kent Osterberg
for that purpose, but the breaker in the main panel may be sufficient. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. Aaron Mandelkorn wrote: It seems as though almost every utility has a different requirement concerning Utility External Disconnects and the AC disconnects for the PV system in general. Some

Re: [RE-wrenches] 10A Charge / load controller; Morningstar MPPT controller

2011-01-25 Thread Kent Osterberg
. Pushing the limits, the way we do, gets us in trouble. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. Starlight Solar, Larry Crutcher wrote: I believe the issue we had has to do with using the Sanyo high voltage PV module. As Kent points out, we were operating the controller at the design

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generator for off grid

2011-01-24 Thread Kent Osterberg
I've got customers using the Onan 1800-rpm liquid-cooled 20-KW and 30-kW LP residential generators without any problems. While Onan doesn't exclude off-grid use, the warranty is only 1-year 1000-hours for off-grid applications. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. Randy Brooks wrote

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter oversizing

2011-01-21 Thread Kent Osterberg
not go high enough for the inverter to max out. In the hot weather when the sun angle is optimum for a 20 degree roof, the module output will be down. How much solar is reasonable to put on the inverter depends on the circumstances. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. Darryl Thayer wrote

Re: [RE-wrenches] EnPhase male whips

2011-01-21 Thread Kent Osterberg
Nick, Could you post a diagram showing when a male whip is useful? I'm having a really hard time envisioning a need for one. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. Nick Soleil wrote: William: Your diagram is one way to do it, in fact, I always divide my circuits into 2 sub

Re: [RE-wrenches] EnPhase male whips

2011-01-21 Thread Kent Osterberg
. And there are other options too. It does still make sense that Enphase doesn't endorse cutting the extension for that purpose. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. Nick Soleil wrote: Sorry Kent: I am just not that motivated by this conversation to create drawings. I will try to explain one

Re: [RE-wrenches] EnPhase male whips

2011-01-20 Thread Kent Osterberg
Eric, Why doesn't a female whip (the standard Enphase branch circuit kit component) work? Seems like both subarrays should have a female whip going to a SolaDeck. Then from both SolaDecks to a j-box in the attic. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar. Eric Thomas wrote: I know its a funny

[RE-wrenches] Inverter oversizing

2011-01-18 Thread Kent Osterberg
different at another elevation, it would be different with a different array angle, ..., and the module tolerance and inverter efficiency also effect the results. Modules in this system are Suntech 170-watt +/-3%. The inverter is Sunnyboy 1800 that should be operating at close to 93% efficiency. Kent

[RE-wrenches] Battery Venting

2010-12-14 Thread Kent Osterberg
. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re

Re: [RE-wrenches] Mounting L feet on corrugated metal roof.

2010-11-26 Thread Kent Osterberg
John. I've used AEE Solar's corrugated roof block with good success. Since the corrugations rarely line up with structural members you'll need to install blocking for most attachment points. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar cvso...@aol.com wrote: Wrenches, Do you have any tips

[RE-wrenches] Trace Series TR2424 causing blinking lights

2010-11-05 Thread Kent Osterberg
Wrenches, I've got a customer that has a dual Xantrex TR2424 inverter system (not my installation) that complains of blinking lights in the house. Anyone have similar issues associated with these inverters? Any solutions? Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trace Series TR2424 causing blinking lights

2010-11-05 Thread Kent Osterberg
Dave, The flickering is subtle, but it occurs all of the time. Kent Osterberg Blur Mountain Solar Dave Palumbo wrote: Kent, Is this a flickering of the lights when the generator is running and charging the battery bank? Which I have seen. Or, something that is going on all the time? Which

Re: [RE-wrenches] Charge Control in AC coupled system

2010-10-28 Thread Kent Osterberg
charge in the system you are considering, a voltage controlled switch, like the Morningstar relay driver, could simply shut down the SB3000. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Howie Michaelson wrote: Hi All, I have done several AC coupled off-grid systems using Sunny Islands and Sunny Boys

Re: [RE-wrenches] Charge Control in AC coupled system

2010-10-28 Thread Kent Osterberg
are (nearly) full, the Sunny boy must be shut down. A voltage controlled switch or the FX inverter's Aux output can open a relay to remove power from the Sunny Boy. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Doug Wells wrote: Wrenches, Howie, good to see you probing this issue. I have an upcoming system

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generator auto start

2010-10-15 Thread Kent Osterberg
. Unfortunately, there isn't a good way to turn the generator off - that function is also a simple voltage trigger and time delay. Kent Osterberg BLue Mountain Solar penobscotso...@midmaine.com wrote: Can anyone point me in the direction of a good, autonomous generator auto start. We have

Re: [RE-wrenches] SolarWorld 245

2010-10-13 Thread Kent Osterberg
be largely uncertainty in the accuracy of the flash test equipment, procedures, and in how the flash test correlates to the real world. In other words it is a CYA operation. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Marco Mangelsdorf wrote: SolarWorld is pushing hard its 245-watt module

Re: [RE-wrenches] insolation v. actual output

2010-10-12 Thread Kent Osterberg
Marco, This may be what you are looking for: http://rredc.nrel.gov/solar/calculators/PVWATTS/version1/derate.cgi Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Marco Mangelsdorf wrote: Could someone please provide me with that generally accepted equation when it comes to estimating AC

Re: [RE-wrenches] insolation v. actual output

2010-10-12 Thread Kent Osterberg
Marco, Just playing around with these factors a bit shows you can get 90%, if the modules have -0% tolerance and they are spotless clean. Kent Kent Osterberg wrote: Marco, This may be what you are looking for: http://rredc.nrel.gov/solar/calculators/PVWATTS/version1/derate.cgi

Re: [RE-wrenches] Power line shading

2010-10-11 Thread Kent Osterberg
so it takes a while to upload or download. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. Eric Thomas wrote: Hey there, We have a string inverter system installation coming up that has a power line suspended over the roof. The line is diagonal to the roof and about 20' above the surface

Re: [RE-wrenches] 1.56 ISC Minimum OCP is STUPID!

2010-09-14 Thread Kent Osterberg
the fault to one string. If a GFP is installed, any arc may be terminated, or depending on the fault maybe not. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. Matt Lafferty wrote: Kent, William, Nick, Dave, et al, Wish I had time to respond sooner than this,but haven't. Where to start

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wiley Asset

2010-09-09 Thread Kent Osterberg
, the wire will probably block a little less light. But a 50% reduction in the light on a few cells will probably reduce the entire module output by 50%. A shadow every day for the hours you are talking about sounds like a pretty serious issue. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar benn kilburn wrote

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wiley Asset

2010-09-09 Thread Kent Osterberg
on energy production depends on how large the shadow is, how long it lasts, and what hours it occurs. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Nick Soleil wrote: Hi Kent: I am sure that aerial wires have very little impact on system outputs. I just checked the Enphase Enlighten data for a system I

[RE-wrenches] ground fault troubleshooting

2010-09-07 Thread Kent Osterberg
the protection that is needed. The existing ground fault protection in the inverters is inadequate and current plans for arc fault protection may not be a satisfactory either. These have been slow incremental improvements; much more is needed. -- Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar 541-568-4882

Re: [RE-wrenches] 1.56 ISC Minimum OCP is STUPID! (Was: ground fault troubleshooting)

2010-09-07 Thread Kent Osterberg
PV systems with fuses. What's needed is a ground fault protector/arc fault protector that is located in the combiner box. Until that exists, the feeder between the combiner and inverter needs to be considered an unfused conductor. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Matt Lafferty wrote:

Re: [RE-wrenches] DR2424 inverters charging poorly: three units in two days!

2010-08-20 Thread Kent Osterberg
power system such as portable generator with no neutral ground bond, a GFCI won't trip because there is too much impedance between neutral and ground. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Darryl Thayer wrote: Just a note, FYI The GFCI will work without a ground, it operates

Re: [RE-wrenches] DR2424 inverters charging poorly: three units in two days!

2010-08-19 Thread Kent Osterberg
is normally required for 15 and 20-amp outlets on portable generators. But then a GFI wouldn't work without a neutral-ground bond anyway. There is no sign of a UL listing, but mine has a sticker from the City of Los Angeles saying that it is "approved for use". Kent Osterberg Blue Moun

Re: [RE-wrenches] generator surge on outback system

2010-08-12 Thread Kent Osterberg
Kirk, The problem may be related to the transfer delay. The default time is way too long. Try reducing it to 10 cycles or even less. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Kirk Herander, VSE wrote: Hello, I have an off-grid customer with dual Outback inverters and a Kohler

Re: [RE-wrenches] Padded equipment cases.

2010-08-12 Thread Kent Osterberg
Years ago, I used to get custom cases made by Silton Company. They are now owned by Olympic Case Company but the facility in Fresno is still in use. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Peter Parrish wrote: I seem to remember reading about a source of "custom padded equipment

Re: [RE-wrenches] metering an outback system

2010-08-09 Thread Kent Osterberg
is forward, left is backwards. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Gary Easton wrote: Hello, I am having trouble metering a system with an Outback 3648 serving a protected loads panel. I need a way to accurately measure the production. I have a dual stator 12s meter installed with the &qu

Re: [RE-wrenches] corrigated roof mounting feet

2010-08-07 Thread Kent Osterberg
Jeff, I think this is exactly what you are describing: http://www.aeesolar.com/PDFs/SnapNrack-Tech-Bulletin-CRB_7-23-09.pdf Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Jeff Yago wrote: Most of the past metal roof projects we have completed worked great with S-5! clamps. However, we have

Re: [RE-wrenches] Imbalance In Multiple String Charging Current

2010-07-22 Thread Kent Osterberg
Mark, Do the interconnects total the same length in each string? There could be a bad connection somewhere in that string. But more than likely this behavior is the result of a cell (or cells) that has a high impedance because it is sulfated. How do the specific gravity numbers look. Kent

Re: [RE-wrenches] calculating DC voltage drop

2010-07-22 Thread Kent Osterberg
. If you can buy and install PV for much less than that, how can you justify such little gain from the extra wire cost? 2 or 3 AWG may be worth it, but it sure doesn't look like 1 AWG is a smart choice. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Dana wrote: Ray, The $ could be making

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Boxes?

2010-07-16 Thread Kent Osterberg
August, You might also consider the Contico Pro Tuff Bin. $85 from Grainger. http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/1RG71 It also holds four L-16 batteries. You do have to keep the cables short and low though. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Joel Davidson wrote: Hi August

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L16 2v vs 6v

2010-07-14 Thread Kent Osterberg
below 50% DOD. Looking at this data makes me question that practice. It also makes me wonder about the seven-year warranty. Even with 20% daily discharge it looks like the batteries should be spent in about four years. Any suggestions on how to get seven years of service from a set of L-16s? Kent

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flashed Footing Requirements

2010-06-24 Thread Kent Osterberg
coincides with the rafter or truss location. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. Drake Chamberlin wrote: At 01:16 PM 6/24/2010, you wrote: Oregon rebate programs (where we are based) are requiring all roof penetrations/attachments to be flashed. What do you use to flash metal roofs

Re: [RE-wrenches] Arc fault questions.

2010-06-01 Thread Kent Osterberg
I recently talked to the tech support folks at Magnum about AFCI breakers and they didn't know of a single one that would work with modified square wave inverters. The AFCI requirement for all new residential construction may finally be the death of modified square wave inverters. Kent

Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase System Labeling

2010-05-21 Thread Kent Osterberg
still says don't open under load. Fortunately that isn't a serious problem because the dc current should be zero if the ac power is disconnected. But that is ignoring the possibility of a dc short circuit in the inverter. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Marv Dargatz wrote: Kent, The

Re: [RE-wrenches] Grundfos SQ FLEX AC/DC auto switching

2010-05-20 Thread Kent Osterberg
Kirpal, None of the SQFlex equipment is UL listed. You may find that your AHJ won't approve any of the SQFlex controls and possibly not even the pump. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Kirpal Khalsa wrote: Hi Folks.I am working on putting together a domestic water pumping system using

Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase System Labeling

2010-05-20 Thread Kent Osterberg
or of the first microinverter in a branch circuit is suitable as a disconnecting means once the AC branch circuit breaker in the load center has been opened." Sorry, but that's just not a clear a set of instructions yet. Can we open these connectors under load or are we never supposed to open them under l

[RE-wrenches] Lorentz Pumps

2010-05-18 Thread Kent Osterberg
failure for the same customer. The pump is in a deep well that it is unlikely to over pump and there is a low-water sensor too. For those of you that have installed these pumps, what types of problems have you observed? How long are these pumps lasting? Thanks any replies. Kent Osterberg Blue

Re: [RE-wrenches] var/ power factor

2010-05-14 Thread Kent Osterberg
. PF = W/VA = W/sqrt(W^2+VAR^2). Reduce W without changing VAR and the power factor goes down, possibly even to zero. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar toddc...@finestplanet.com wrote: I have a question about my personal home system. It is an Outback battery based grid tie. My digital utility

Re: [RE-wrenches] current carrying conductor

2010-05-13 Thread Kent Osterberg
Marco, Take a look at 2008 NEC 310.15(4)(a). The neutral conductor isn't counted for the purpose of NEC 310.15(B)(2)(a) when it is part of a circuit where it only carries the unbalanced current. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Marco Mangelsdorf wrote: Thanks

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ideal platform for flooded type batteries: opinions wanted

2010-04-30 Thread Kent Osterberg
or heavy polyethylene pond liner on the bottom and up the sides 4 to 6 inches. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Mick Abraham wrote: Hi, Mechanix~ My "customer du monde" has a dirt floor in the battery space but he's willing to build something on which we could place his

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ideal platform for flooded type batteries: opinions wanted

2010-04-30 Thread Kent Osterberg
Ray, I haven't installed any HUP batteries in several years so my info may be out of date but the steel case on the older HUP batteries had drain holes on the bottom. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. R Ray Walters wrote: I haven't seen a problem with concrete, but wood definitely

Re: [RE-wrenches] Lorentz Sub Pump

2010-04-22 Thread Kent Osterberg
on a generator or solar system. To turn them off, a 2-gallon pressure tank with pressure switch (adjusted to operate at 10 psi) works great if the PV array is near the pumping system. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. Allan Sindelar wrote: Jeff, What are the brands and specs

Re: [RE-wrenches] Lorentz Sub Pump

2010-04-22 Thread Kent Osterberg
David, Sq D doesn't have them UL listed for it but they self certify the 10 to 30 amp 2-pole breakers for 125 volts dc. Problem is: if you need a UL listing, you are stuck at 48 volts. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar, Inc. David Katz wrote: Allan, Are you running 100+ volts DC

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC wire sizing

2010-04-12 Thread Kent Osterberg
/ .. - Original Message - From: Kent Osterberg To: Wrenches Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 9:22 AM Subject: [RE-wrenches] DC wire sizing Here's my challenge to all of you that want to design for 1% or 1.5% voltage drop all the time: Take a 50-ft circuit

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