Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid array far, far from the batteries

2024-04-10 Thread Dana Orzel via RE-wrenches
I am out of country at the moment, but I think Morningstar has a 600 V controller that’s pretty good sized I can’t give you much spec on it, but you could do the DC run at up to 600 V Dana Orzel C: 208.721.7003 E- d...@solarwork.com On Apr 10, 2024, at 6:57 PM, Nick A Lucchese via RE-wrenches

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid array far, far from the batteries

2024-04-10 Thread William Miller via RE-wrenches
Chris: The Outback 100 amp controller operating at a max of 300 VDC might be a good solution. Pondering this further: I suppose a 600 volt charge controller would be better for voltage drop but I suspect one string of 12 would exceed 600 VDC. If true then strings of 6 would exceed 300vdc. If

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid array far, far from the batteries

2024-04-10 Thread jay via RE-wrenches
Hi Chris, If you run all 6 in series that puts you about 2.6% vd with #4 wire about 200vdc vmp and 10 amps. In cold enough weather you’re probably above the FM-100 so would put you in a 600vdc controller. I’d go with 600v controller vs doing AC coupling. More efficient and the more volt

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid array far, far from the batteries

2024-04-10 Thread Nick A Lucchese via RE-wrenches
Pretty cold up there in Montana! Maybe only 10 or 11 in series depending on the module? Nick > On Apr 10, 2024, at 9:40 AM, Chris Daum via RE-wrenches > wrote: > > > The crazy things folks do. Dear people: We have a fellow who has an initial > off-grid array with a Radian 8048A (and

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid array far, far from the batteries

2024-04-10 Thread Nick A Lucchese via RE-wrenches
Can all 12 be placed in series without going over the voltage limit of a Barcelona or Hawkes Bay? Nick > On Apr 10, 2024, at 9:40 AM, Chris Daum via RE-wrenches > wrote: > > > The crazy things folks do. Dear people: We have a fellow who has an initial > off-grid array with a

[RE-wrenches] Off-grid array far, far from the batteries

2024-04-10 Thread Chris Daum via RE-wrenches
The crazy things folks do. Dear people: We have a fellow who has an initial off-grid array with a Radian 8048A (and related e-panel, etc.) and six 410W Canadian solar modules. He has six more of the same modules.but the ideal site for solar is 900 feet away from his batteries and the rest of

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid, Cloudy Days, Solar Tilt Question

2023-10-26 Thread Bradley Bassett via RE-wrenches
Jay, I don't really remember, it was years ago that I had that setup, and did not have any way to keep records except on paper which I did not do. Brad On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 6:07 PM Jay via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > Hi Brad > > Out of curiosity, what is the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid, Cloudy Days, Solar Tilt Question

2023-10-25 Thread Eric Smiley via RE-wrenches
7:03 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: RE-wrenches > Cc: Bradley Bassett > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid, Cloudy Days, Solar Tilt Question > > I used to have both an array at a 60° tilt and one at 14° tilt. In the > winter the high tilt array did better on sunny days, and on cloudy days

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid, Cloudy Days, Solar Tilt Question

2023-10-25 Thread Jay via RE-wrenches
Hi BradOut of curiosity, what is the actual difference between the two on those cloudy days. ThxJayOn Oct 25, 2023, at 5:04 PM, Bradley Bassett via RE-wrenches wrote:I used to have both an array at a 60° tilt and one at 14° tilt. In the winter the high tilt array did better on sunny days, and on

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid, Cloudy Days, Solar Tilt Question

2023-10-25 Thread integrityenergy101 via RE-wrenches
days in VT.  And we have plenty of them this time of year!AmosSent from my Galaxy Original message From: Bradley Bassett via RE-wrenches Date: 10/25/23 7:03 PM (GMT-05:00) To: RE-wrenches Cc: Bradley Bassett Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid, Cloudy Days, Solar Tilt

[RE-wrenches] Off Grid, Cloudy Days, Solar Tilt Question

2023-10-25 Thread Kirk Bailey via RE-wrenches
Dave, The paper reference was at the bottom of my original post (1), but a quick summary of what they recommended was exactly what you mentioned - Have two axis trackers "go horizontal" during heavy overcast instead of continuing to track the sun to improve production! I'm familiar with

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid, Cloudy Days, Solar Tilt Question

2023-10-25 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar via RE-wrenches
Kirk, Can you reference your paper on this? So many variables and each location will be different. Most dual axis trackers can always be left flat or any angle so that does not make sense to me. You have to design for winter offgrid if the location is worth it. Or, alot of hours on a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid, Cloudy Days, Solar Tilt Question

2023-10-25 Thread Bradley Bassett via RE-wrenches
I used to have both an array at a 60° tilt and one at 14° tilt. In the winter the high tilt array did better on sunny days, and on cloudy days the shallow array did better. They were different modules and different sized arrays, so without more analysis than I did, it would be hard to tell which

[RE-wrenches] Off Grid, Cloudy Days, Solar Tilt Question

2023-10-25 Thread Kirk Bailey via RE-wrenches
Hi All! We don't do a lot of pure off-grid systems and I recently ran across something I wanted to run by folks with more experience in this area: Optimal array tilt for our very cloudy PNW winters! My understanding has always been that latitude plus 10-15 degrees was the best tilt to address

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-Grid AFCI Update...

2023-06-15 Thread bob--- via RE-wrenches
Hi Kienan /"There's an interesting //Sandia report // where there were testing an AFCI combiner that MidNite made, // //but it doesn't seem to be available anywhere...

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-Grid AFCI Update...

2023-06-15 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar via RE-wrenches
* You do need Xanbus and all of the following One of the reasons I always post here to not use a roof for offgrid is rapid disco. There are a few others also. It is the last thing you want offgrid and if for some reason you can't find a reasonable way to please an inspector, install

[RE-wrenches] Off-Grid AFCI Update...

2023-06-15 Thread Maxfield Solar via RE-wrenches
Hello all, I'm trying to find information on how to comply with AFCI with DC-coupled off-grid systems in 2023... Obviously, there are a couple of charge controllers that have AFCI built in such as the MidNite charge controllers and I know about Outback's unreliable AFCI in the FM100 ... but

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Battery Charging

2023-03-16 Thread jay via RE-wrenches
HI Brad, I was just about to hit send on those exact wattages, yes completely agree. As a sort of joke, the self discharge of the batteries is probably more than what she could make in a day. Jay > On Mar 16, 2023, at 4:29 PM, Bradley Bassett via RE-wrenches > wrote: > > I tried this

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Battery Charging

2023-03-16 Thread Bradley Bassett via RE-wrenches
I tried this back in the 1970's with an exercise bike and a high efficiency generator (still have this if anyone wants it). If I pushed hard I could get it up to 200W, but only sustain about 100W. The only time I used it is when my battery was depleted and I wanted to watch TV. I had a 12VDC 5" B

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Battery Charging

2023-03-16 Thread Ray Walters via RE-wrenches
As I recall from pushing the "wayback" button, Backwoods and Real Goods used to sell something like that in the 90s.  I would only see a pyschological benefit, based on the system size. I recall that the charge rate was less than 50 watts, so its really not going to be worth wiring into the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Battery Charging

2023-03-16 Thread James Jarvis via RE-wrenches
Bicycle charging her L16 battery bank would be fine waste of effort. In good shape she might be able to make 200 watts for some part of an hour before being tired. Even Lance Armstrong in his peak probably wouldn't be producing multiple kWh per day. My $0.02 worth, -James Jefferson Jarvis APRS

[RE-wrenches] Off Grid Battery Charging

2023-03-16 Thread Larry Brown via RE-wrenches
Wrenches I have a client that we did an off grid system for about 4 years ago The system is performing well The client would like to keep charged her batteries in the winter with her stationary bicycle operating a small generator Right now she uses a grid connection that was available and she

Re: [RE-wrenches] off-grid AC coupling feasibility

2022-07-31 Thread Jay via RE-wrenches
I also worry about getting the system to 64 hz. That is hard on motors and might be the cause of the Light pulsing you’re seeing drake. Jay > On Jul 31, 2022, at 10:08 AM, Drake Chamberlin via RE-wrenches > wrote: > >  > Yes, we have a system with AC and DC coupled arrays on an

Re: [RE-wrenches] off-grid AC coupling feasibility

2022-07-31 Thread Drake Chamberlin via RE-wrenches
Yes, we have a system with AC and DC coupled arrays on an off-grid system. Having DC coupled capacity is important for reasons given in other posts. We used AC coupling due to shade issues, so we could use Enphase inverters. In your case, if the house really is going to go on grid, I would

Re: [RE-wrenches] off-grid AC coupling feasibility

2022-07-30 Thread Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches
An all DC side charging is preferred and will have the simplest charging system. Flex net DC shunts, easy to monitor. Last l heard FM 100 were pushed out till late in the year Fun times On Sat, Jul 30, 2022, 1:37 PM Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: >

Re: [RE-wrenches] off-grid AC coupling feasibility

2022-07-30 Thread Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches
Jerry- The pole mount does not exist for a few more weeks, so I have time to think about DC or AC coupling for it only. To clarify, the old roof 1.8 kw array is functional and has been charging the new blue ions through an old Outback pre-hub 60A controller(replacing it soon with a new FM60). So I

Re: [RE-wrenches] off-grid AC coupling feasibility

2022-07-30 Thread Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches
Its not clear to me if you will actually have a DC side coupled connection in talking about the pole mount. If so then it does work but if not then no, the big question is how would you restart the inverter to restart the SE to start the charging process on the AC side, answer, you can't in most

Re: [RE-wrenches] off-grid AC coupling feasibility

2022-07-30 Thread Howie Michaelson via RE-wrenches
Hey Kirk, This is something I've done a few times with success, although I've used an XW pro instead of the Radian, with OB charge controllers. Having the mix of DC and AC coupled is ideal, as the solaredge will do the bulk of the charging, but then charge controllers will do the finish taper

Re: [RE-wrenches] off-grid AC coupling feasibility

2022-07-30 Thread Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches
Hi Kirk, I have not done this personally, and this does not pertain to your specific situation, but related to this subject is the Sol-Ark 15k has a massive AC coupling capability even with maximum DC connected PV. I really like this idea for people that want a huge PV array but only need the

[RE-wrenches] off-grid AC coupling feasibility

2022-07-30 Thread Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches
All, Anyone out there successfully AC-coupled inverters in an off-grid system? Advantages vs. pitfalls? In my case I'm thinking of its practicality with a Solaredge inverter AC-coupled to an OB Radian inverter. OB firmware makes this pretty easy now. So effectively the Radian is always operating

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Food Truck

2021-08-19 Thread Jerry Shafer
Have you talked to inter island or R$R, never had an issue getting any off grid parts from 12 to 48 vdc. Jerry On Thu, Aug 19, 2021, 10:18 AM James Rudolph wrote: > Aloha Wrences, > I am trying to help some folks out here power up their 400w refrigerator > that is in their stationary food truck

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Food Truck

2021-08-19 Thread James Rudolph
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Food Truck

2021-08-19 Thread Thomas Hall
11:18 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Food Truck Aloha Wrences, I am trying to help some folks out here power up their 400w refrigerator that is in their stationary food truck on the North Shore of Oahu. I have a couple systems in mind ,but I am having a difficult time trying

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Food Truck

2021-08-19 Thread Thomas Hall
11:18 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Food Truck Aloha Wrences, I am trying to help some folks out here power up their 400w refrigerator that is in their stationary food truck on the North Shore of Oahu. I have a couple systems in mind ,but I am having a difficult time

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Food Truck

2021-08-19 Thread Dana Orzel
renches Subject: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Food Truck Aloha Wrences, I am trying to help some folks out here power up their 400w refrigerator that is in their stationary food truck on the North Shore of Oahu. I have a couple systems in mind ,but I am having a difficult time trying to find

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Food Truck

2021-08-19 Thread Lloyd Hoffstatter
com> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 1:18 PM To: RE-wrenches<mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Food Truck Aloha Wrences, I am trying to help some folks out here power up their 400w refrigerator that is in their stationary food truck on the Nort

[RE-wrenches] Off Grid Food Truck

2021-08-19 Thread James Rudolph
Aloha Wrences, I am trying to help some folks out here power up their 400w refrigerator that is in their stationary food truck on the North Shore of Oahu. I have a couple systems in mind ,but I am having a difficult time trying to find someone to ship a kit out here. The suppliers on this island

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid French fried

2020-07-29 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
Many of these fires in the last 5 years! In fact more in the last 5 than 20 years before. I would not claim this on insurance if you want to keep it. We are in a spell now of losing insurance and self insuring in the west. By self insuring, I mean hardening to avoid this ever happening from

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid French fried

2020-07-28 Thread Dan Fink
Bill; I've dealt with a couple of these after wildfires here in Colorado, in remote mountain areas with high proportions of off-grid systems. I totally get the insurance aspect, I'd say a majority of folks don't even really realize that even with insurance, the actual settlement will often be far

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid French fried

2020-07-28 Thread Jerry Shafer
Wrenches You fix what is bad and see where it goes, test the system components and see what happens, The Outbacks do get hot just in operation. I see the radians up to 140 degrees + while selling. Oh and by the way expect to pay more to get everything replaced Jerry On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 8:23

[RE-wrenches] Off-grid French fried

2020-07-28 Thread frenergy
Hey Folks, Here in the Boonies of NE California one of my customers just had a fire (the Hog Fire) go through his property.  It spared his house but roasted the power shed.  I'll try to summarize: 2003 Outback FP2 (AC enclosure, 2 FXs,DC enclosure with related equipment), Classic 150 and 24V

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Optimizers

2019-11-01 Thread Kienan Maxfield
; (801) 631-5584 From: RE-wrenches on behalf of drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 10:33 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Optimizers I agree completely that AC coupled systems are far better off if they have a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Optimizers

2019-11-01 Thread drake . chamberlin
- From: "RE-wrenches" To: Cc: Sent: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 19:33:11 -0600 Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Optimizers We've discussed AC coupled many times.   Aside from the issues Michael brought up, I need to remind that not having at least some DC  PV charging means that w

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Optimizers

2019-10-31 Thread Ray
We've discussed AC coupled many times.   Aside from the issues Michael brought up, I need to remind that not having at least some DC  PV charging means that when the AC system shuts down for any reason, so does all the PV charging.  If Li+ batteries get discharged to their low voltage shut

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Optimizers

2019-10-31 Thread Michael Morningstar
You know Murphy? That is Murphy of Murphy’s Law? He’s gotta just love the idea of AC coupled off-grid systems. The OB, SB, Li system Jay described is going to keep him (Murphy) and the installer very busy at some point. The further away the system is from civilization, the higher the odds of

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Optimizers

2019-10-31 Thread jay
HI Drake, I was just talking with a colleague the other day about a project he did. New Radian, AC coupling, lithium batteries, SB inverters. Everything is working just as it should with the GT inverters tapering during AC coupling frequency shift mode. I would say you are fine, and while I

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Optimizers

2019-10-31 Thread Drake
Hi Jay, Between 2160 and 2880 Watts of added array. We will be using a new Radian. Drake At 11:49 AM 10/31/2019, you wrote: How many watts are you adding as ac coupling? And presuming its an older 8k radian? Jay ___ List sponsored by Redwood

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Optimizers

2019-10-31 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
4] "RE-wrenches" [5] To: [6], "RE-wrenches" [7] Cc: Sent: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 16:11:20 -0700 Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Optimizers Probably for shading! I cut the trees down to avoid all shading offgrid. Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar "we go where powerline

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Optimizers

2019-10-31 Thread Jay
How many watts are you adding as ac coupling? And presuming its an older 8k radian? Jay ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings:

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Optimizers

2019-10-31 Thread Ray
al Message - From: offgridso...@sti.net "RE-wrenches" To: , "RE-wrenches" Cc: Sent: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 16:11:20 -0700 Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Optimizers Probably for shading! I cut the trees down to avoid all

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Optimizers

2019-10-31 Thread drake . chamberlin
Hi Allan Shading issues. Drake - Original Message - From: "RE-wrenches" To:"RE-wrenches" Cc: Sent:Wed, 30 Oct 2019 14:11:29 -0700 Subject:Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Optimizers Drake, I must be old school - why use optimizers? Allan > On Oct 30, 2019, at

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Optimizers

2019-10-31 Thread drake . chamberlin
, Drake - Original Message - From: offgridso...@sti.net "RE-wrenches" To:, "RE-wrenches" Cc: Sent:Wed, 30 Oct 2019 16:11:20 -0700 Subject:Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Optimizers Probably for shading! I cut the trees down to avoid all shading offgrid. Dave Angelini O

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Optimizers

2019-10-30 Thread b...@midnitesolar.com
That notice not to use Tigo with the MidNite Classic controller was several years ago. Not long after that, Tigo did something to their optimizers to fix it and there has not been a problem since. Should be good to go. boB On 10/30/2019 6:06 PM, Mac Lewis wrote: I haven't noticed in a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Optimizers

2019-10-30 Thread Mac Lewis
I haven't noticed in a while, but there used to be a note included with Midnite charge controllers saying not to use with Tigo optimizer products, something would blow up. If its just rapid shutdown you need, then the Tigo rapid shutdown system seems to work with the Midnite charge controller.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Optimizers

2019-10-30 Thread Jerry Shafer
The Tigo product for RSD it is not an "optimizer" just a module level shut down device Jerry On Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 1:30 PM wrote: > Hello Wrenches, > > What is the best combination of charge controller and optimizer to use > with an off grid, battery based system? What combinations are

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Optimizers

2019-10-30 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
-Original Message- > From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On > Behalf Of Allan Sindelar > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 2:11 PM > To: RE-wrenches > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Optimizers > > Drake, I must be old school - why use optimizer

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Optimizers

2019-10-30 Thread Glenn Burt
: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 2:11 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Optimizers Drake, I must be old school - why use optimizers? Allan > On Oct 30, 2019, at 1:00 PM, drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org wrote: > > Hello Wrenches, > > What is the best combin

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Optimizers

2019-10-30 Thread William Miller
, October 30, 2019 2:11 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Optimizers Drake, I must be old school - why use optimizers? Allan > On Oct 30, 2019, at 1:00 PM, drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org wrote: > > Hello Wrenches, > > What is the best combination of ch

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Optimizers

2019-10-30 Thread Jerry Shafer
I have been happy with Tigo and Outback Jerry On Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 1:30 PM wrote: > Hello Wrenches, > > What is the best combination of charge controller and optimizer to use > with an off grid, battery based system? What combinations are problematic? > > Thank you, > > Drake > Athens Electric

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Optimizers

2019-10-30 Thread Allan Sindelar
Drake, I must be old school - why use optimizers? Allan > On Oct 30, 2019, at 1:00 PM, drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org wrote: > > Hello Wrenches, > > What is the best combination of charge controller and optimizer to use with > an off grid, battery based system? What combinations are

[RE-wrenches] Off Grid Optimizers

2019-10-30 Thread drake . chamberlin
Hello Wrenches, What is the best combination of charge controller and optimizer to use with an off grid, battery based system? What combinations are problematic? Thank you, Drake Athens Electric 740-856-9648 ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Washing Machine

2019-09-18 Thread Wayne Irwin
PM To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Washing Machine I second Jerry's comments. Back in the 90s, we sold Sunfrost DC fridges, DC fans, CFLs, DC Pumps, etc. Just tons of trouble for very little benefit. Local fridge techs wouldn't touch them

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Washing Machine

2019-09-18 Thread Ray
I too have a few Sunfrosts that are still with happy customers. We just had too many failures to justify the high cost overall. On the super efficient fridge topic:  I use the Backwoods Solar deep freeze conversion kit, which gets equally amazing energy numbers for about $500 total.  It just

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Washing Machine

2019-09-18 Thread toddcory
ahem... i need to correct this with my personal experience. perhaps this is an exception, but my 24 year old sunfrost RF-12 is still going strong, 100% problem free... and it gets better efficiency than advertised: it uses 390 watt hours/ day = 142 kWh/year while solar pv is less expensive

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Washing Machine

2019-09-18 Thread Ray
I second Jerry's comments.  Back in the 90s, we sold Sunfrost DC fridges, DC fans, CFLs, DC Pumps, etc.  Just tons of trouble for very little benefit.  Local fridge techs wouldn't touch them, and frankly they weren't as efficient as advertised.  The closer off grid clients can be to normal,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Washing Machine

2019-09-18 Thread Dana
2019 7:22 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Washing Machine Hello Wrenches, For years, is seemed like the best off grid washing machine was the Staber. I've read of complaints about cheap plastic parts breaking. The price tag on this machine is very high for something t

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Washing Machine

2019-09-18 Thread Jerry Shafer
Wrenches I have been in the renewable industry for a very many years and l dont quite understand why someone would spend way to much on a refrigerator or washer or even range when they have their own issues. I have always suggested that my customers to buy a name brand machine, efficiency always

[RE-wrenches] Off Grid Washing Machine

2019-09-18 Thread Drake
Hello Wrenches, For years, is seemed like the best off grid washing machine was the Staber. I've read of complaints about cheap plastic parts breaking. The price tag on this machine is very high for something that isn't mechanically solid. Are there any good options for an affordable, low

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid Sunny Island to backup

2019-02-21 Thread b...@midnitesolar.com
A Sunny Island (SI) will export excess energy to the grid when the battery voltage is driven above its target voltage (IE absorb or float) so in the case of using a Classic or any other charge controller, the charge controller needs to be set to a higher voltage than the SI. Typically I

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid Sunny Island to backup

2019-02-20 Thread Mac Lewis
Hello Wrenches, I received a response from SMA about this: The newest line of Sunny Boys (SBX.XUS-40) can be used in backup systems, as long as the Country Standard is set to IslandMode60Hz and the firmware is at least 2.03.01.R. I plan on trying to look deeper into DC coupling with selling

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid Sunny Island to backup

2019-02-18 Thread Mac Lewis
Hi Brad, I have heard that the selling from the Midnite charge controllers doesn't work real well. There is a MNSI comm box so it may be the best way (certainly the cheapest). Does anyone have experience with this scenario, good or bad? Thanks for your input as always On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid Sunny Island to backup

2019-02-18 Thread Tump
Mac having installed quite a few of these and having the SMA SIs installed and operating in my home, ( back up & off grid/ GT) please feel free to contact me off list. I would strongly concur w/ Bradly w/ his suggesting you utilize the dc coupling. Tump > On Feb 18, 2019, at 8:19 AM, Mac Lewis

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid Sunny Island to backup

2019-02-18 Thread Bradley Bassett
I think you can leave it DC coupled and enable grid tie in the Sunny Island inverters. It might not be quite as efficient but a lot more cost effective. If you don't already have it Midnite makes a comm box that makes the Classic look like an SMA device. That might be helpful to coordinate MPPT

[RE-wrenches] Off-grid Sunny Island to backup

2019-02-18 Thread Mac Lewis
Hello Wrenches,, We have been asked to take an SMA Sunny Island System that is off-grid, and convert it to a backup system (Quad stack). Currently, this is a DC coupled system using Midnite charge controllers. We would like to add SMA grid-tied inverters to backfeed excess power. I have

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid refrigerator

2018-09-19 Thread Will White
Hey Wrenches, Thanks for all the great feedback on off-grid refrigerators. We decided to go with a GE 18 Cu Ft refrigerator. It's a pretty standard model and uses just over 1 kWh/day (369 kWh/year energy star rated). https://products.geappliances.com/appliance/gea-specs/GTE18ITHBB We also

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid refrigerator

2018-09-11 Thread Drake
We recently installed a Frigidaire refrigerator in our off gird house, and it uses about 1 KWh/ Day. It is nothing very special, but works fine. At 09:20 PM 9/8/2018, you wrote: Hello Off-grid Wrenches, After 10+ years my Wife is finally sick of our Sunfrost RF-12. We'd like to upgrade to

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid refrigerator

2018-09-10 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
environmentally benign as well. Get Outlook for Android - FROM: RE-wrenches on behalf of Tump SENT: Monday, September 10, 2018 6:14:47 AM TO: RE-wrenches SUBJECT: Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid refrigeratorBlomberg appliances offer full size AC fridges using 1.2A

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid refrigerator

2018-09-10 Thread Jay
Hi Dana Yes in the last year I bought a new refrigerator ( kitchen aid) And didn’t buy a LG due to really bad reviews, class action lawsuit on compressor problems etc. Too bad as there other stuff is really well made. I would only recommend a refrigerator that you can get repaired locally

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid refrigerator

2018-09-10 Thread Dana
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid refrigerator

2018-09-10 Thread MiJo Nels
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid refrigerator

2018-09-10 Thread Tump
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid refrigerator

2018-09-09 Thread Ian Woofenden
chnologies for Responsible People since 1988" > > P Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > > > > > From: RE-wrenches <mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org>> On Behalf Of Tom at > wagonmaker > Sent: Saturda

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid refrigerator

2018-09-09 Thread Rebekah Hren
f you have to add a bit of generating > capacity getting another panel on your system will be way cheaper than than > it was for us back in the day...and back then it was still the better > option. > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > *From:* Will White > >

[RE-wrenches] Off-grid refrigerator

2018-09-09 Thread Dana
arwork.biz "Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988" P Please consider the environment before printing this email. From: RE-wrenches On Behalf Of Tom at wagonmaker Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2018 11:26 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid ref

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid refrigerator

2018-09-09 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
I like soft start and programmable defrost during daylight hours. Look at the LG 22 cubic foot inverter. Also when looking at energy star keep in mind they inflated the US numbers 4 years or so back, and the Canadian are the old numbers. I look at both! If in a ambient temperature neutral home I

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid refrigerator

2018-09-09 Thread tom
Kenmore did have good appliances for years but a great many of them were made by other manufacturers and marketed under the Kenmore label. But those days are over and recently Kenmore has been rumored to be either sold by Sears or simply disappear. Sears itself may not last long either. I'd

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid refrigerator

2018-09-09 Thread Howie Michaelson
Will, not only did we get tired of the lack of freezer space and water on the floor (or creating a science experiment in the back of the refrigerator when the 1/4" drain got plugged up with food scraps), but all the hardware breaking or shelves crashing was a major annoyance... After the new

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid refrigerator

2018-09-09 Thread jay
ve to add a bit of generating capacity > getting another panel on your system will be way cheaper than than it was for > us back in the day...and back then it was still the better option. > > Tom > > > > From: Will White <> > Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2018

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid refrigerator

2018-09-08 Thread Tom at wagonmaker
: Saturday, September 8, 2018 3:20 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid refrigerator Hello Off-grid Wrenches, After 10+ years my Wife is finally sick of our Sunfrost RF-12. We'd like to upgrade to something a little more modern that doesn't leak water all over the floor when it's

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid refrigerator

2018-09-08 Thread Bob-O Schultze
Assuming you have a sinewave inverter t this point, I agree with Jerry about going to a 120vac fridge. However, I would suggest going to your computer before the appliance store. For Kathleen and I, Energy Star rated is the starting point. There is some really good info here:

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid refrigerator

2018-09-08 Thread Jerry Shafer
Will This has been on topic many times and im sure it will be many more times, l have many off grid customers that at one point said the same thing. I asume you have 120 vac, just measure the space you have and go to your local appliance store and pick one out that has the good low usage

[RE-wrenches] Off-grid refrigerator

2018-09-08 Thread Will White
Hello Off-grid Wrenches, After 10+ years my Wife is finally sick of our Sunfrost RF-12. We'd like to upgrade to something a little more modern that doesn't leak water all over the floor when it's humid For you off-grid installers what's your go to refrigerator recommendation? I'm going to go

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off grid DC Loads: DC Converter

2018-01-18 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
Wow that is bad! I only have used their 400AH 6V and prefer a wet battery from Surrette, US, or Trojan for Lead Acid. > On 1/18/2018 10:18 AM, Drake wrote: >> A Concorde AGM PVX 3050T recently failed in a bank of 8. Larry mentioned >> a couple of brands experiencing problems. These batteries are

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off grid DC Loads: DC Converter

2018-01-18 Thread James Jefferson Jarvis
On 1/18/2018 10:18 AM, Drake wrote: A Concorde AGM PVX 3050T recently failed in a bank of 8. Larry mentioned a couple of brands experiencing problems. These batteries are 4 years old and have been kept in float in an off grid system, never stressed. Hopefully Concorde batteries are not going

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off grid DC Loads: DC Converter

2018-01-18 Thread Drake
criminal laws and laws covering electronic > communications privacy matters. > > > > From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On > Behalf Of Starlight Solar Power Systems > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 11:08 AM > To: RE-wrenches <re-wr

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off grid DC Loads: DC Converter

2018-01-18 Thread Daniel Young
ad Systems Designer for: www.dovetailsolar.com Ph: 740-274-0139 -Original Message- From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of frenergy Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 11:47 PM To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Off grid DC

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off grid DC Loads: DC Converter

2018-01-17 Thread frenergy
Dave,             Next to the invoice for the cost of the battery (and new cables and labor and freight of course), post a large envelope next to it:  "NEXT BATTERY SAVINGS ACCOUNT, If you don't pay attention and ruin your battery in 2 years, insert $35/week.  If you care for your battery

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off grid DC Loads: DC Converter

2018-01-17 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 1:51 PM > To: 'RE-wrenches' <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Off grid DC Loads: DC Converter > > Agreed Dave, there are more loads than the original design accounted for. > The client understands thi

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off grid DC Loads: DC Converter

2018-01-17 Thread Dana
E-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Young Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 1:51 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Off grid DC Loads: DC Converter Agreed Dave, there are more loads than the original

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off grid DC Loads: DC Converter

2018-01-16 Thread Ray
:34 PM To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Off grid DC Loads: DC Converter Seems to me that you are on the edge for that size battery in winter. If the inverter is going to be on, converters are kind of nutty to me. I could see having o

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