Re: [Repeater-Builder] Slightly off topic ...

2004-03-30 Thread John J. Riddell
Go to www.fedsig.com it's there.. John VE3AMZ - Original Message - From: Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater Builder Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 6:26 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Slightly off topic ... | | I have Federal PA 300 Electronic

Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]

2004-03-30 Thread JOHN MACKEY
There are only 2 people who I have ever seen say that Maggoire is good equipment. Russ and a well know fool on this group. Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: russ wrote: THE BELOW IS SOMTHING THAT A LOT OF US KNOW AND SOME WILL NOT ADMITT. The way the mother M keeps down the desence is to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF link

2004-03-30 Thread Pete Dziomba
Russ, for what it's worth, we're using Johnson 8655 900mhz radios to link our 2 440 machines together.. One of things we found, and this may apply to you, is with the 900mhz radios being narrow band and your other stuff being wide band, you might hear a noticeable difference in the Link audio's

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Cable Legnth

2004-03-30 Thread no6b
From: Davies, Doug A FOR:EX [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have been having a heck of a time getting my Q202G to tune to 146.xxx. It was originally set up for 163.xxx and, of course, the plunger rods were cut off to fit a cabinet. After lengthening the rods, I still couldn't get a proper notch. Asking

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Slightly off topic ...

2004-03-30 Thread Randy Elliott
I believe it is 50 100 watts. Randy VE3JPU From: John J. Riddell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 19:07:24 -0500 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Slightly off topic ... Go to www.fedsig.com it's

Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]

2004-03-30 Thread russ
Well the fool has lots of paper to back him up! BSEE. GROL. (use to be a 1st class) Plus many more. So i'm a fool? When are you coming out to prove me a fool? Please jump on the next bat and prove me a fool. BTW I have build some of the largest DTV and HDTV systems around. I am not a name caller

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF link

2004-03-30 Thread russ
Hey Pete, I will let the group know. We are putting the 1st of 3 927 repeaters up this week end in Ocean City NJ. At the same time we are putting up the link from OC to Chester PA. We have been looking at the 2.5 vers 5 kc as in OC we have 1 147.285 repeater and a 223.98 repeater both 5 KC and we

Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]

2004-03-30 Thread Neal Newman
IBOC FM I guess there is a 3rd fool in here LOL JOHN MACKEY wrote: Russ - Please RE-READ my statement. (I never called you a fool or anything else other than "Russ") I said "Russ AND a well know fool on this group". However, if you choose to include yourself as the second party, I

[Repeater-Builder] i need help with my repeater

2004-03-30 Thread wp3tm88
hi i have a gr300 uhf motorola repeater and this repeater have a sound like a fry eggs or ham with a modulation or a cw id . whats is a posible cause of this problem? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To

Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]]

2004-03-30 Thread JOHN MACKEY
I never claimed IBOC was a good idea!! Neal Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IBOC FM I guess there is a 3rd fool in hereLOL JOHN MACKEY wrote: Russ - Please RE-READ my statement. (I never called you a fool or anything else other than Russ) I said Russ AND a well know fool on this

Re: [Repeater-Builder] a little help

2004-03-30 Thread Virden Clark Beckman
For the bux the hustler g-6 family has been doing pretty well, just make sure to sweep it before you mount it as there have been some really crazy uhf splits mixed up lately. Donnie Q wrote: I am putting a 220 machine on the air in Michigan, all ready have the pair. but my question is does

Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]]

2004-03-30 Thread Neal Newman
No the fool is the person in your company who said lets put IBOC on the station then wrote the Check. 1 year later royality check.. another year goes by another royality check... ect ect. JOHN MACKEY wrote: I never claimed IBOC was a "good" idea!! Neal Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplexer Cable Legnth

2004-03-30 Thread rtoplus
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Davies, Doug A FOR:EX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been having a heck of a time getting my Q202G to tune to 146.xxx.. DougI share your grief! I'm also on 146.775...However, I found out something today! This is a kinda long story so bear

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF link

2004-03-30 Thread Virden Clark Beckman
I doubt if you would get repeater council approval to link at that power level, most linking is done 15-20 miles with 3-5 watts and then someone might turn it up to 10 watts to overcome foliage and insure a reliable path in horrible weather. dy3lmk143_13mhz wrote: I've never had experience on

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Cable Legnth

2004-03-30 Thread Daron J. Wilson
There always seems to be one in every group. I'm aware of coaxial velocity and how to calculate that. However, that in itself does not provide the answer to the question. Once one determines the velocity factor for the coax being used, he can calculate different electrical wavelengths of the

Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]

2004-03-30 Thread Fred
- Original Message - From: JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]] There are only 2 people who I have ever seen say that Maggoire is good

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Low Band Noise Blanker Question

2004-03-30 Thread Virden Clark Beckman
If you are looking for 6 mtr cavities, I have a set in my barn that a club spent 800 bux on, 4 pcs. db 4032 - located just west of Cleveland, Ohio - they will fit into a caravan or comparable mini-van. Neal Newman wrote: Hey Alex Go Away looking for some 6 meter duplexers For

Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]

2004-03-30 Thread Fred
I worked on about 20 or so magiore repeaters for friends before they knew any better, new and old designs over the years and here is what i found. Very cheap low specs components used not very well design equipment, the squelch on the receiver sucked sometimes it would open up and there was no

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Cable Legnth

2004-03-30 Thread Virden Clark Beckman
Tune them each seperatly and then replace the cables with the correct electrical length using the velocity factor math. Davies, Doug A FOR:EX wrote: I have been having a heck of a time getting my Q202G to tune to 146.xxx. It was originally set up for 163.xxx and, of course, the plunger rods

[Repeater-Builder] ifr1200s calibration

2004-03-30 Thread DIGITEL S.A.
hi all the group, i have an ifr 1200s service monitor, i bougth it about 1 year ago, the version is 7.1 01 was suposted to be on calibration, but wheni use it to calibrate duplexers using grafics (duplex gen ),duplexer never get the rigth calibration, at the end ,i always have to use

[Repeater-Builder] 633 8A duplexer

2004-03-30 Thread tony dinkel
Having trouble retuning a 633 8A duplexer from 10 mHz to 5 mHz split. Insertion loss seems to be excessive. Does anybody have any experience with this model in this circumstance? td _ Get rid of annoying pop-up ads with the new

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help a Fireman Answer a Question???

2004-03-30 Thread Virden Clark Beckman
You need to get a licensed radio tech in there to do the co-ordination but the basic can it be linked, yes but it could easily cost 25-38k to erect the towers and all the stuff needed. Matt Bergum wrote: Hello, I just Joined the group, but don't plan to stay a member (since I am not a HAM

Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]]]

2004-03-30 Thread JOHN MACKEY
hmmm, I don't know about that... When a grant comes down to pay 70 percent of the costs you can use it to buy a NEW SOLID STATE transmitter to replace a 23 year old tube transmitter, it begins to make sense. (Not to mention a few other benefits) Neal Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No the

[Repeater-Builder] Motorola Microphone Tester ST855 Manual

2004-03-30 Thread Micheal Salem
I acquired an ancient microphone tester made by Motorola, Model ST-855. It apparently has a tone generator that you can hold the microphone over and a VU meter to watch it with. The tone generator doesn't work and the VU circuit is a little sluggish. Anybody got a manual or even a schematic for

Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]]

2004-03-30 Thread albemarle7
To Neal NewmanI think [EMAIL PROTECTED] is referring to me as the fool. Obviously he has no idea who I am nor my past contributions to scientific and television research. Having noted past demeaning comments to some from this individual, I wish he would keep his negative comments to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help a Fireman Answer a Question???

2004-03-30 Thread mch
Matt Bergum wrote: Hello, I just Joined the group, but don't plan to stay a member (since I am not a HAM operator). I am just a fireman in Ohio looking for simple answers to repeater questions. I expect to be online for about an hour more...so you do not need to reply after that. This

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 633 8A duplexer

2004-03-30 Thread Kevin Custer
tony dinkel wrote: Having trouble retuning a 633 8A duplexer from 10 mHz to 5 mHz split. Insertion loss seems to be excessive. Does anybody have any experience with this model in this circumstance? You are likely trying to tune it upside-down. Try this:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Cable Legnth

2004-03-30 Thread Kevin Custer
Duplexer to Radio Set cabling lengths can be optimized by the method from this article and downloaded PDF file from Wacom: http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/gtm.html Kevin Custer Oh, and by the way.. Lets stop the name calling and other such BS, or you'll find yourself no longer receiving

Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR

2004-03-30 Thread Mathew Quaife
Hi Ken, well it would be hard for me to make an offer, let me tell you what I am attempting to do. I have two repeaters, one on 440 and one on 2 meters, and am using an RLC2 controller. I want to be able to remove the controller from the 440 machine, which is a phone patch deal and tie it into

Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]

2004-03-30 Thread russ
Gee I was work at ATC when the memo came down to remove all Master 2 RCA and Micores if they where not type accepted for the service they had listed on the paper work. I did not know untill that time that they where not ok to use for part 95 GMRS or part 90 Business. Yes you find a bad Maggiore

Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]

2004-03-30 Thread russ
Come on out and see 18 that work fine. Well installed and work great. 73 Russ, W3CH - Original Message - From: Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]] I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 900Mhz info???

2004-03-30 Thread russ
We are useing for HT's MTX, GTX's mostly. For mobiles lots of Maxtrac's they also make a great link radio if you get the ones with the 16 pin jack on the back. You can program and pick every thing off the back. We also have Sprectra's for all the control opp's. There are also GTX mobiles

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Slightly off topic ...

2004-03-30 Thread brent
i sent this yesterday but got returned i forgot to add the - in repeater builder.. go figure.. GOOD Luck NEVER connect the Brown speaker hipower (100w) and the orange speaker LOW POWER(58w) wire together to the speakers Use 18g for speaker wire / siren wire BLUE Spkr, COM BRN Spkr HI Org

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Cable Legnth

2004-03-30 Thread Jim B.
Again, the correct length for coax between the duplexer and the tx/rx is the minimum length that will reach between the two. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Davies, Doug A FOR:EX wrote: I have been having a heck of a time getting my Q202G to tune to 146.xxx. It was originally set up for 163.xxx

Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]

2004-03-30 Thread russ
THE FCC! They came off the list a few years back. Go read for your self. Still a pile of the out there that have not been replaced but that does not back it right. Just a fact. 73 Russ. On the side there are about 40 very happy Maggiore users on the list? Most just do not want to get in a back

Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]

2004-03-30 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Mastr II and Micor not ok to use in part 90?!?!?!?!? Says who? russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gee I was work at ATC when the memo came down to remove all Master 2 RCA and Micores if they where not type accepted for the service they had listed on the paper work. I did not know untill that

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Cable Legnth

2004-03-30 Thread NØATH
Kevin Custer Oh, and by the way.. Lets stop the name calling and other such BS, or you'll find yourself no longer receiving email from this particular list. Thanks Thanks Kevin, Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR

2004-03-30 Thread Ken Arck
At 06:10 AM 3/30/2004 -0800, you wrote: The receiver that is on the 440 machine is a Uniden radio, for which we pulled the de-emphasized audio from. Then we used a COR, which actually is nothing more than a voltage drop. ---Well Mathew. It doesn't sound like you need a new receiver. That would

Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR

2004-03-30 Thread Virden Clark Beckman
If what you are trying to get is a stronger signal from a weaker one, use an open npn collector as the switch - in order for it to trigger with reliability you do need for the signal to go above 3 and below 2 volts for this to occur - it takes the strain off the radio electronics and you can also

Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR

2004-03-30 Thread Mathew Quaife
The voltage at the tap point is about 7 volts, when keyed it drops to about .5 volts, just not enough to get it to key the controller. I looked for other sources in the radio, nothing would drop to zero volts. Mathew - Original Message - From: Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR

2004-03-30 Thread Ken Arck
At 09:07 AM 3/30/2004 -0800, you wrote: The voltage at the tap point is about 7 volts, when keyed it drops to about .5 volts, just not enough to get it to key the controller. I looked for other sources in the radio, nothing would drop to zero volts. ---I'm surprised your controller doesn't

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Cable Legnth

2004-03-30 Thread russ
THANK YOU! 73 Russ, W3CH - Original Message - From: NØATH [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Cable Legnth Kevin Custer Oh, and by the way.. Lets stop the name calling and other

[Repeater-Builder] Generating COR signal

2004-03-30 Thread bsoutheyoz
I am having trouble generating a COR / COS signal for my new cross- band repeater project. I do not want to pull my expensive transceiver apart to try and locate an internal COR circuit. I have seen several commercial circuits that generate a COR singnal based on logic that detects a drop in

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Cable Legnth

2004-03-30 Thread Micheal Salem
Hi Kevin: I get a 404 error when I tried to download the Wacom PDF document. Is it just me? Regards, Micheal Salem N5MS Norman, Oklahoma Kevin Custer wrote: Duplexer to Radio Set cabling lengths can be optimized by the method from this article and downloaded PDF file from Wacom:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR

2004-03-30 Thread Mathew Quaife
Hi Ken, that is what I would have thought as well. When the squelch is closed, it has about 7 volts on the point, when the squelch is open, it goes low to about .5 volts. The radio that I am using is a Uniden AMU 080K radio. I will have to work with it again this weekend when the RLC2 gets

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Generating COR signal

2004-03-30 Thread Neil McKie
Being careful how you install it, you might be able to use the Squelch Gate Card from either the late Motorola Motrac Series Station or the Micor Series Station. Neil - WA6KLA bsoutheyoz wrote: I am having trouble generating a COR / COS signal for my new cross- band repeater

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Cable Legnth

2004-03-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Me too... LJ Original Message: - From: Micheal Salem [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 12:11:22 -0600 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Cable Legnth Hi Kevin: I get a 404 error when I tried to download the Wacom PDF document.

[Repeater-Builder] DB-420's

2004-03-30 Thread russ
Hello All, I was just talking to the nice folks at Cook Towers. They have 9 of the DB-420's (440 to 450)NEW in stock. 1st come 1st served. As we have all heard you have to order 100 at a time. Cook and a few outher venders did just that. So if you want to get one of the great 440,s for your

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Cable Legnth

2004-03-30 Thread Steve Bosshard
Jim, You made my day, Thanks, Steve NU5D Again, the correct length for coax between the duplexer and the tx/rx is the minimum length that will reach between the two. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

[Repeater-Builder] cor logic circuit thoughts

2004-03-30 Thread skipp025
It would not be hard to add a transistor or fet stage to the cor circuit you're having so much trouble with. Even though the circuit doesn't go below ~.5 to ground, a regular series diode or two in the Emitter lead of an added transistor (with a proper series base resistor) will ensure the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] cor logic circuit thoughts

2004-03-30 Thread Russ Crisp
Not to devalue any of the excellent options presented previously, but there is also a board made by Link Communications that will give you 'micor style' squelch, and cor output. It's not real expensive, and adds these functions to any receiver. All you supply is descriminator audio and DC. Plug

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Generating COR signal

2004-03-30 Thread bradley glen
Hi Sounds like you need a VOX unit to tap audio into and that will give you a COR with hangtime (vox delay) etc. There are circuits on the web. A second way if you can use CTCSS which will be more stable as in the quiet periods that a person does not talk you may get dropout. Use a CTCSS

Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR]]]]

2004-03-30 Thread JOHN MACKEY
I'll have to check that about part 90!! Regarding the Maggiore, if the user is happy then I guess that is all that matters. There are many that have had bad experiences with that equipment. This reminds me of a article in the newspaper the other day. They did an article on the Yugo brand of

[Repeater-Builder] Cushman 7000 Service Monitor

2004-03-30 Thread Neil McKie
Does anyone know where to locate a service manual for a Cushman 7000 Service Monitor? Thank you, Neil - WA6KLA Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:

[Repeater-Builder] Re: WTB 440 Mhz Receiver with COR

2004-03-30 Thread Al Wolfe
Mathew, Maybe all you need to do is stick a small diode in your COR line. The silicon ones typically drop about 0.6 volts. Maybe that's enough to do the trick. Try a 1N914 or that genre. Al, K9SI Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:07:44 -0800 From: Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR

2004-03-30 Thread Ralph Mowery
The voltage at the tap point is about 7 volts, when keyed it drops to about .5 volts, just not enough to get it to key the controller. I looked for other sources in the radio, nothing would drop to zero volts. Try putting a small silicon diode or two in series with the wire. That should

RE: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 440 Mhz Receiver with COR

2004-03-30 Thread Ralph Mowery
which I know works on my CSI Phone patch, connect (start) with a 10K resistor, the part I am lost at is the ground. When you say a pull down resistor, is this any different than a standard 1/2 watt resistor? I appreciate the input here, glad that someone is willing to help. You will see

[Repeater-Builder] Re: cor logic circuit thoughts

2004-03-30 Thread skipp025
This is also good information, but at a price. The Link board is $60 in parts. The cor unit I describe $5 in parts. cheers skipp www.radiowrench.com Russ Crisp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to devalue any of the excellent options presented previously, but there is also a board made

[Repeater-Builder] Yugo radios

2004-03-30 Thread skipp025
, JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regarding the Maggiore, if the user is happy then I guess that is all that matters. Not really, what appears in operation on the air is what matters most. If any circuit appears on the air near me with problems, I'm going to tell the owner to fix it.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Generating COR signal

2004-03-30 Thread skipp025
bradley glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Sounds like you need a VOX unit to tap audio into and that will give you a COR with hangtime (vox delay) etc. Tis simple and easy to make. With the proper RC values, you can configure the cor ckt to respond to more of the higher frequency (non

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Cable Legnth

2004-03-30 Thread Kevin Custer
Micheal Salem wrote: Hi Kevin: I get a 404 error when I tried to download the Wacom PDF document. Is it just me? The link was broken. Please refresh: http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/gtm.html Kevin Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: