Re: Proposals

2003-11-10 Thread peter royal
On Nov 9, 2003, at 6:20 PM, Stephen McConnell wrote: Take for example the following: http://www.ibiblio.org/maven/ant/jars/ant-1.5.jar http://www.ibiblio.org/maven/ant/jars/ant-1.5.jar.md5 You can express the above as: //.. This implies that there is a notion of meta-data down at the base level -

Re: Proposals

2003-11-09 Thread Stephen McConnell
peter royal wrote: On Nov 7, 2003, at 5:37 PM, Stephen McConnell wrote: Searching is certainly on the my agenda. We need it for IDE related development, repository management, and intelligent query based artifact aquisition (and HTTP in this context is not an ideal solution). But that's a laye

RE: Proposals

2003-11-09 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 11:48, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > peter royal wrote: > > On Nov 7, 2003, at 5:37 PM, Stephen McConnell wrote: > > > Searching is certainly on the my agenda. We need it for IDE related > > > development, repository management, and intelligent query based > > > artifact aquisitio

RE: Proposals

2003-11-09 Thread Noel J. Bergman
peter royal wrote: > On Nov 7, 2003, at 5:37 PM, Stephen McConnell wrote: > > Searching is certainly on the my agenda. We need it for IDE related > > development, repository management, and intelligent query based > > artifact aquisition (and HTTP in this context is not an ideal > > solution). >

Re: Proposals

2003-11-09 Thread peter royal
On Nov 7, 2003, at 5:37 PM, Stephen McConnell wrote: Searching is certainly on the my agenda. We need it for IDE related development, repository management, and intelligent query based artifact aquisition (and HTTP in this context is not an ideal solution). But that's a layer that would sit on

RE: Proposals

2003-11-08 Thread dion
"Anou Manavalan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 08/11/2003 02:01:52 AM: > I am not sure if my earlier mail made it to the list, I really want to see a > different view of the URI > http:project//-[-][.ext] > > It seems like we are inclining towards the already existing "Maven" kind of > URI

RE: Proposals

2003-11-08 Thread Alex Karasulu
Thank you somebody for seeing these needs as well. I would like to second Nick's response yet again. > -Original Message- > From: Nick Chalko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 5:18 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Proposals >

RE: Proposals

2003-11-08 Thread Alex Karasulu
> With repositories growing fast, it needs to be searched and there should > be > a keyword search that assists faster search ( speaking from the > established > UDDI Repository and Database point of view ). Yes exactly. Coming from the directory side I see a massive synergy. By enabling attribu

Re: Proposals

2003-11-08 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 18:28, Nick Chalko wrote: > Stephen McConnell wrote: > > > > > Sure - and I think HTTP protocol support is fundamental. With the > > Avalon stuff we are using HTTP today but we making sure that the > > repository SPI enables selection of alternative repository protocols >

Re: Proposals

2003-11-07 Thread Nick Chalko
Stephen McConnell wrote: Sure - and I think HTTP protocol support is fundamental. With the Avalon stuff we are using HTTP today but we making sure that the repository SPI enables selection of alternative repository protocols so that we put a lot more intelligence into the backend/client relati

Re: Proposals

2003-11-07 Thread Stephen McConnell
Nick Chalko wrote: Stephen McConnell wrote: Anou Manavalan wrote: With no responses supporting this idea, I guess I will put this idea to rest in peace ;-) Searching is certainly on the my agenda. We need it for IDE related development, repository management, and intelligent query based ar

Re: Proposals

2003-11-07 Thread Nick Chalko
Stephen McConnell wrote: Anou Manavalan wrote: With no responses supporting this idea, I guess I will put this idea to rest in peace ;-) Searching is certainly on the my agenda. We need it for IDE related development, repository management, and intelligent query based artifact aquisition (an

Re: Proposals

2003-11-07 Thread Stephen McConnell
Anou Manavalan wrote: With no responses supporting this idea, I guess I will put this idea to rest in peace ;-) Searching is certainly on the my agenda. We need it for IDE related development, repository management, and intelligent query based artifact aquisition (and HTTP in this context is

Re: Proposals

2003-11-07 Thread Nick Chalko
Anou Manavalan wrote: With repositories growing fast, it needs to be searched and there should be a keyword search that assists faster search ( speaking from the established UDDI Repository and Database point of view ). With no responses supporting this idea, I guess I will put this idea to res

Re: Proposals

2003-11-07 Thread Anou Manavalan
I concur, it is just shifting the the problem. Is xerces in XML or Web Services or Text Processing or Library or Core or Utility or Base or Transormation or . :-) You ask me, then I would say XML-Parser. I unerstand it is hard to group them into one, but every project focuses on one t

Re: Proposals

2003-11-07 Thread Nick Chalko
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Anou Manavalan wrote: I am not sure if my earlier mail made it to the list, I really want to see a different view of the URI http:project//-[-][.ext] It seems like we are inclining towards the already existing "Maven" kind of URI. It has already proven its existence

Scope/Phasing (was Re: Proposals)

2003-11-07 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
eves and manage one on Apache hardware w/ partner mirrors. I think prototyping and phasing are keys here. regards, Adam - Original Message - From: "Anou Manavalan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 8:01 AM Subject: RE: Proposals

Re: Proposals

2003-11-07 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Anou Manavalan wrote: I am not sure if my earlier mail made it to the list, I really want to see a different view of the URI http:project//-[-][.ext] It seems like we are inclining towards the already existing "Maven" kind of URI. It has already proven its existence, instead of repeating the

RE: Proposals

2003-11-07 Thread Anou Manavalan
to know is what they want to solve. regards, -Anou From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Proposals Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:43:17 +1100 No. In Maven, it's the artifact type, e.g. jar(s), war(s) exe(s). I thought we'd been over this on

RE: Proposals

2003-11-07 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > not as much bandwidth... So lets design this a bit better then = make sure that it allows for the authoritative source to be on ASF[*] hardware (perhaps with an ASF signed key, sha1 or md5) - but it can be mirrored out through ibiblio, my local disk

RE: Proposals

2003-11-07 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On Thursday, November 06, 2003 21:51:25 -0500 "Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I imagine: .../httpd/dists/httpd-2.0.45-src.zip .../httpd/dists/httpd-2.0.45-src.tar.gz .../httpd/dists/httpd-2.0.45-bin-solaris.tar.gz .../httpd/dists/httpd-2.0.45-bin-linux.tar.gz From a strict user-ce

Re: RE: Proposals

2003-11-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 22:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > Well, let's make sure that we get input from the httpd release folks before > > we re-design the layout of the library. I just want to make sure that we > > have a consensus across projects that everyone can live with, not just J

RE: Proposals

2003-11-07 Thread Jason van Zyl
in-win32/etc) > 3) artifact format (extension: tar.gz, tar.bz2 - only makes sense for > some artifact types) > > Cheers, > Brett > > > -Original Message- > > From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, 7 November 2003 1:32 PM > >

Re: RE: Proposals

2003-11-07 Thread aok123
> > Well, let's make sure that we get input from the httpd release folks before > we re-design the layout of the library. I just want to make sure that we > have a consensus across projects that everyone can live with, not just Java > projects, and which works for the full spectrum of projects.

RE: Proposals

2003-11-07 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> > > > > http:jars/[-][-].ext > > > > Is jars/ to be / for the non-Java crowd? > > > No. In Maven, it's the artifact type, e.g. jar(s), war(s) exe(s). > > How do we address additional portable and native platforms, > > e.g., http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/binaries/? For that > > matter, wh

Re: Proposals

2003-11-07 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
> I thought we'd been over this one before. We had, but until we finalize decisions in some documented form late comers are going to keep rehashing them. How do we document decisions? Wiki? Web Site? We are waiting on your lead, I believe -- or is that not what you envisioned? regards Adam

RE: Proposals

2003-11-07 Thread Brett Porter
Title: RE: Proposals I imagine: .../httpd/dists/httpd-2.0.45-src.zip .../httpd/dists/httpd-2.0.45-src.tar.gz .../httpd/dists/httpd-2.0.45-bin-solaris.tar.gz .../httpd/dists/httpd-2.0.45-bin-linux.tar.gz So I guess type != ext, which makes sense. I would prefer, for example: .../so

RE: Proposals

2003-11-07 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> > > http:jars/[-][-].ext > > Is jars/ to be / for the non-Java crowd? > No. In Maven, it's the artifact type, e.g. jar(s), war(s) exe(s). How do we address additional portable and native platforms, e.g., http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/binaries/? For that matter, what is the mapping for h

RE: Proposals

2003-11-07 Thread dion
No. In Maven, it's the artifact type, e.g. jar(s), war(s) exe(s). I thought we'd been over this one before. -- dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting Blog: http://blogs.codehaus.org/people/dion/ Pub Key:http://blogs.codehaus.org/people/dion/public-key.asc "Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Proposals

2003-11-07 Thread Nick Chalko
Brett Porter wrote: Maven's is http:s/[-][-]. This seems reasonable to me We need to describe what a "group" is. artifact_types release types and version syntax. (perhaps) smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

RE: Proposals

2003-11-07 Thread Brett Porter
Title: RE: Proposals Maven's is http:s/[-][-]. Which should cover all platforms (as artifact_type can be dll, jar, maven-plugin, doc, etc). This also means http://repo.apache.org/org.apache.xerces can be the single place to download Xerces in C++, Java, cobol, whatever. I ima

Re: Proposals

2003-11-07 Thread Nick Chalko
Noel J. Bergman wrote: http:jars/[-][-].ext Is jars/ to be / for the non-Java crowd? --- Noel Sounds reasonable. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

RE: Proposals

2003-11-07 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> http:jars/[-][-].ext Is jars/ to be / for the non-Java crowd? --- Noel

Re: Proposals

2003-11-06 Thread Nick Chalko
Jason van Zyl wrote: Howdy, Just joining in now and was wondering where the existing proposals are for perusing. Ther is some wiki stuff at http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ASFRepository But note the URI syntax listed there is likely to change. the last almost consensus was closer t