could some kind soul steer this back to the topic that Shiv
drifted it from
You mean threads on silk actually drift BACK to original topics?
That should depend upon the dimensionality of the conversation space.
A 0-d list has nowhere to drift to, and hence never leaves the
original
On Wednesday 20 May 2009 9:11:34 am Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
I put it to you that IG didn’t particularly intend this as a laundry list
of megalomaniac people who made chariots and elephants run on time.
So this is the excuse you would use if you were IG I suppose? As anticipated,
Shiv, this is email - and not a postmodernistic thesis, where more words
necessarily means a stronger argument.
ss [20/05/09 20:22 +0530]:
On Wednesday 20 May 2009 9:11:34 am Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
I put it to you that IG didn’t particularly intend this as a laundry list
of megalomaniac
OK IG here is my answer ( I presume this is the one that you meant)
On Wednesday 20 May 2009 9:38:03 am Bonobashi wrote:
But based on what I have produced as evidence on my stand on the subject,
you have a perfect right to arraign me on that count. The question is, and
I leave it to you,
--- On Thu, 21/5/09, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote:
From: ss cybers...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [silk] Why have Indian exit polls been so off lately?
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Date: Thursday, 21 May, 2009, 9:14 AM
OK IG here is my answer ( I presume
this is the one that you meant
I know an airline that operates flying pigs .. 'swine flew'
[SRS: QUICK. BOOK THOSE TICKETS TO THAT ISLET OFF MACAO BEFORE HE CHANGES HIS
MIND AND HEADS BACK THIS WAY.
REMEMBER, BOOK THE TICKETS IN STRANGE NAMES. CALL ME AGHA HILALY OR SOMETHING]
srs
Far more than that, the bjp's campaign was very in your face and
unsolicited - on mobiles, and on email.
They even managed to get Rajesh Jain (yes, netcore guy) to spam for them ..
and spam heavily enough to get huge amounts of his IP space (a couple of
/25s) blocked in spamhaus.org and
Rajesh is a BJP supporter.
He wasn't 'hired' in that sense.
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
sur...@hserus.netwrote:
Far more than that, the bjp's campaign was very in your face and
unsolicited - on mobiles, and on email.
They even managed to get Rajesh Jain (yes,
Mahesh Murthy [19/05/09 12:20 +0530]:
Rajesh is a BJP supporter.
He wasn't 'hired' in that sense.
congratulate him from me for his spectacular own goal then
as for hired - not sure if he was the guy who was behind anything other
than the friendsofbjp.org spam. there was tons of flashy banner
advertising, SEO (amateurishly blackhat most of it), sms spam, random
automated blog posts etc. Most of it was like someone had learnt emarketing
101 and
The banner advertising was placed directly by the BJP through Google - who
tried to build a case for online political advertising by maxing out the BJP
campaign on AdSense.
The problem wasn't that there was bad strategy and planning - but that there
was probably none whatsoever.
Which does
] Why have Indian exit polls been so off lately?
The banner advertising was placed directly by the BJP through Google - who
tried to build a case for online political advertising by maxing out the BJP
campaign on AdSense.
The problem wasn't that there was bad strategy and planning
2009/5/19 Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net:
gujarat', 'kite flying festival' etc etc)
Just occurred to me that kite flying festival could describe what
happens on silk, in times such as these, rather accurately.
Ram
--- On Tue, 19/5/09, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote:
From: ss cybers...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [silk] Why have Indian exit polls been so off lately?
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Date: Tuesday, 19 May, 2009, 9:55 AM
On Monday 18 May 2009 10:14:56 pm
Bonobashi wrote:
there is nothing
Shiv,
Some clarifications.
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:44 AM, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote:
In the original post that defended Modi's actions I do not recall Bharat
Shetty describing himself as either Hindu, or Hindutva or
even Hindutvabadi (Hindutva-baddie :D )
Neither did I tell, what
so,
it wasn't to be, honestly.
-- Bharat | http://twitter.com/shettyb
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 5:10 AM, Bonobashi bonoba...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
--- On Tue, 19/5/09, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote:
From: ss cybers...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [silk] Why have Indian exit polls been so off lately
--- On Tue, 19/5/09, Bharat Shetty bharat.she...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Bharat Shetty bharat.she...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [silk] Why have Indian exit polls been so off lately?
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Date: Tuesday, 19 May, 2009, 3:27 PM
IG,
-- I am arguing against Bharat making
...@gmail.com
wrote:
From: ss cybers...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [silk] Why have Indian exit polls
been so off lately?
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Date: Tuesday, 19 May, 2009, 9:55 AM
On Monday 18 May 2009 10:14:56 pm
Bonobashi wrote:
there is nothing hypocritical in my
condemnation
--- On Tue, 19/5/09, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote:
From: ss cybers...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [silk] Why have Indian exit polls been so off lately?
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Date: Tuesday, 19 May, 2009, 10:14 AM
On Monday 18 May 2009 7:01:05 pm bonoba...@yahoo.co.in
wrote:
In other
IG,
And if you agree with me, what's there left to talk about? what's there left
to do but decay slowly in place?
Don't worry, you have company along with me in the decaying slowly in
place category. Everyday I read some depressing stories around the
world, it only makes me want to perish
Venerable IG,
Don't be stupid, it wasn't meant personally. I was attacking your views, not
you personally.
Sire, I know and read clearly that you mentioned that I didn't mean
directly whatever I told. But I would to state even if I expressed my
views, it was not meant to champion modi even
bharat.she...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Bharat Shetty bharat.she...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [silk] Why have Indian exit polls been so off lately?
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Date: Tuesday, 19 May, 2009, 3:27 PM
IG,
-- I am arguing against Bharat making the mistake of those
who admired
Hitler, and before him
bharat.she...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [silk] Why have Indian exit polls been so off lately?
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Date: Tuesday, 19 May, 2009, 5:15 PM
Venerable IG,
This term is used for Buddhist monks and nuns, Archdeacons in the Church of
England, or as those in the first stage
...@pobox.com
On May 19, 2009, at 6:56 AM, Bonobashi wrote:
--- On Tue, 19/5/09, Bharat Shetty bharat.she...@gmail.com
wrote:
From: Bharat Shetty bharat.she...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [silk] Why have Indian exit polls
been so off lately?
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Date
IG,
'Sire' normally is used of one's father. Is there something you know that I
don't? How old are you? Does it compute?
I thought sire is also used as a mark of respect. Correct me if I'm
wrong. As for age, I',m half of your age actually, assuming you are
around 40's ?
Did that final smiley
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Subject: Re: [silk] Why have Indian exit polls been so off lately?
IG,
'Sire' normally is used of one's father. Is there something you know that
I don't? How old are you? Does it compute?
I thought sire is also used as a mark of respect. Correct me if I'm
wrong. As for age, I
Bono-Bash-I, now, isn't that humorous?
Ram Ram.
Regards,
Chetan
- Original message -
From: Bonobashi bonoba...@yahoo.co.in
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 18:38:20 +0530 (IST)
Subject: Re: [silk] Why have Indian exit polls been so off lately?
Roughly the same
@lists.hserus.net
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 18:38:20 +0530 (IST)
Subject: Re: [silk] Why have Indian exit polls been so off
lately?
Roughly the same as your pulling off something humorous.
Or in other terms, the chances of your long term survival,
now that Ram
has reminded me who you am
On Tuesday 19 May 2009 2:40:16 pm Bonobashi wrote:
* My objection to Modi was nowhere connected to Hindutvabadi; it was
connected to our usual, may I say facile, ability to gloss over breaches of
the rule of law,
* It is the same objection that I have to an historical figure, Husain
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:16 AM, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday 19 May 2009 8:19:08 am Ramakrishnan Sundaram wrote:
2009/5/19 Chetan Nagendra che...@pobox.com:
Heh, Atul bashing hasn't stopped at all, has it?
Who's bashing Atul, tempting as that prospect is?
It's you.
Ram
--- On Wed, 20/5/09, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote:
From: ss cybers...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [silk] Why have Indian exit polls been so off lately?
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Date: Wednesday, 20 May, 2009, 9:04 AM
On Tuesday 19 May 2009 2:40:16 pm
Bonobashi wrote:
* My objection
--- On Wed, 20/5/09, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote:
From: Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net
Subject: Re: [silk] Why have Indian exit polls been so off lately?
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Date: Wednesday, 20 May, 2009, 9:11 AM
I put it to you that IG didn’t
--- On Wed, 20/5/09, . svaks...@gmail.com wrote:
From: . svaks...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [silk] Why have Indian exit polls been so off lately?
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Date: Wednesday, 20 May, 2009, 9:32 AM
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:16 AM, ss
cybers...@gmail.com
wrote
--- On Wed, 20/5/09, Bonobashi bonoba...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
From: Bonobashi bonoba...@yahoo.co.in
Subject: Re: [silk] Why have Indian exit polls been so off lately?
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Date: Wednesday, 20 May, 2009, 9:41 AM
--- On Wed, 20/5/09, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur
On 5/17/09 9:10 PM, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote:
If you take a country that is wholly Christian in ethos, lighting up an entire
street with a string of lights, playing loud devotional music and pulling
around a chariot with an idol of Ganesha accompanied by incredibly loud drums
at 10 PM
AFAIK, Singapore is NOT a Muslim nation. Perhaps you meant Malaysia.
It is in Malaysia that Muslims can't marry non-Muslims. My cousin, a
Malaysian Tamilian had to move to Singapore with his Malay Muslim girlfriend
to marry her - where it's perfectly legal.
Singapore follows Chinese, Western,
On 5/17/09 11:19 PM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com wrote:
AFAIK, Singapore is NOT a Muslim nation. Perhaps you meant Malaysia.
It is in Malaysia that Muslims can't marry non-Muslims. My cousin, a
Malaysian Tamilian had to move to Singapore with his Malay Muslim girlfriend
to marry
On 5/17/09 11:45 PM, Divya Manian divya.man...@gmail.com wrote:
Your cousin might have gotten married before the Women's charter came into
effect. I do know singapore follows all festivals, but it gives a lot of
freedom to practice your religion which goes above and beyond what any other
--- On Sun, 17/5/09, Bharat Shetty bharat.she...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Bharat Shetty bharat.she...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [silk] Why have Indian exit polls been so off lately?
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Date: Sunday, 17 May, 2009, 11:46 PM
Before someone bashes me up, I wish
--- On Mon, 18/5/09, Ramakrishnan Sundaram r.sunda...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Ramakrishnan Sundaram r.sunda...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [silk] Why have Indian exit polls been so off lately?
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Date: Monday, 18 May, 2009, 11:14 AM
2009/5/18 Chetan N che
--- On Sun, 17/5/09, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote:
From: ss cybers...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [silk] Why have Indian exit polls been so off lately?
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Date: Sunday, 17 May, 2009, 7:33 PM
On Sunday 17 May 2009 3:53:08 pm
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
Are you
--- On Mon, 18/5/09, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote:
From: ss cybers...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [silk] Why have Indian exit polls been so off lately?
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Date: Monday, 18 May, 2009, 7:30 AM
On Monday 18 May 2009 3:21:13 am
Badri Natarajan wrote:
Shiv, can you
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Thaths tha...@gmail.com wrote:
Aren't exit polls supposed to ask voters who they voted for as opposed
to their perception of good governance?
Isnt asking that generally considered a no no !? Asking if people
voted at all would be more acceptable, in light of
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Bonobashi bonoba...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
no no, not another broken thread !!?
--
., who was tempted but erased the (bo) from the no to avoid bashInG ^_^
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:45 AM, . svaks...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Thaths tha...@gmail.com wrote:
Aren't exit polls supposed to ask voters who they voted for as opposed
to their perception of good governance?
Isnt asking that generally considered a no no !?
Really?
--- On Mon, 18/5/09, . svaks...@gmail.com wrote:
From: . svaks...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [silk] Why have Indian exit polls been so off lately?
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Date: Monday, 18 May, 2009, 11:19 PM
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 3:25 PM,
Bonobashi bonoba...@yahoo.co.in
wrote
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Bonobashi bonoba...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
no no, not another broken thread !!?
--
., who was tempted but erased the (bo) from the no to avoid
bashInG ^_^
Huh?
What'd I do?
borken thread
--
.
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 11:31 AM, . svaks...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Bonobashi bonoba...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
Huh?
What'd I do?
borken thread
It looks like bonobashi's MUA - Yahoo Mail Classic - is the culprit.
It does not seem to add the 'In-Reply-To' header to his
Thaths [18/05/09 11:54 -0700]:
a couple of tests with my Yahoo account just now and it looks like the
new AJAXy Yahoo Mail adds the header. The old Classic version not
only does not add the header, but also inserts seemingly random
invisible characters (=0A=0AS.=0A=0A=0A---, etc.) into the body
Heh, Atul bashing hasn't stopped at all, has it?
Regards
Chetan
che...@pobox.com
On May 18, 2009, at 1:44 AM, Ramakrishnan Sundaram wrote:
2009/5/18 Chetan N che...@nagster.org:
1. I don't believe what you've just said
2. By whose standards?
Hoo boy. Déjà vu all over again. Where's
r.sunda...@gmail.com
wrote:
From: Ramakrishnan Sundaram r.sunda...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [silk] Why have Indian exit polls been so off lately?
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Date: Monday, 18 May, 2009, 11:14 AM
2009/5/18 Chetan N che...@nagster.org:
1. I don't believe what you've just said
2
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 5:33 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
sur...@hserus.net wrote:
could some kind soul steer this back to the topic that Shiv
drifted it from
You mean threads on silk actually drift BACK to original topics?
Deepa.
On Monday 18 May 2009 11:36:44 am Divya Manian wrote:
On the other hand, anyone inciting anybody else, or dehumanising some
people is a threat to secularism and should be stopped.
I do not disagree Divya - but you know I have laid a trap (or I will now
proceed to lay the trap)
Is there any
--- On Tue, 19/5/09, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote:
From: ss cybers...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [silk] Why have Indian exit polls been so off lately?
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Date: Tuesday, 19 May, 2009, 7:14 AM
On Monday 18 May 2009 11:36:44 am
Divya Manian wrote:
On the other hand
--- On Tue, 19/5/09, Chetan Nagendra che...@pobox.com wrote:
From: Chetan Nagendra che...@pobox.com
Subject: Re: [silk] Why have Indian exit polls been so off lately?
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Date: Tuesday, 19 May, 2009, 5:46 AM
Hi IG
The very same. I don't know Mr. Shetty
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 11:15 PM, . svaks...@gmail.com wrote:
This time the EVM's had introduced the NOTA/protest vote option very
quietly as part of the ballot process but my random unscientific
conversations across voters from different strata of society tells me
that the voter(s) has
Sure, you spotted him first, but I'm first in queue.
--- On Tue, 19/5/09, Ramakrishnan Sundaram r.sunda...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Ramakrishnan Sundaram r.sunda...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [silk] Why have Indian exit polls been so off lately?
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Date: Tuesday, 19 May
ss [19/05/09 07:14 +0530]:
On Monday 18 May 2009 11:36:44 am Divya Manian wrote:
On the other hand, anyone inciting anybody else, or dehumanising some
people is a threat to secularism and should be stopped.
I do not disagree Divya - but you know I have laid a trap (or I will now
proceed to
On Monday 18 May 2009 10:14:56 pm Bonobashi wrote:
there is nothing hypocritical in my condemnation of the Gujarat massacres,
and that you can use this only against a specific party and specific
individuals from that party and from elsewhere who have actually
demonstrated the hypocrisy that
.
--- On Tue, 19/5/09, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote:
From: ss cybers...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [silk] Why have Indian exit polls been so off lately?
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Date: Tuesday, 19 May, 2009, 9:55 AM
On Monday 18 May 2009 10:14:56 pm
Bonobashi wrote:
there is nothing hypocritical
On Monday 18 May 2009 7:01:05 pm bonoba...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
In other words, some citizen wants to explain why murdering Muslims doesn't
really matter, against the greater good of the greater number, and other
citizens with a narrow mind call him or her a Hindutvabadi and shut off a
proper
--- On Tue, 19/5/09, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote:
From: ss cybers...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [silk] Why have Indian exit polls been so off lately?
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Date: Tuesday, 19 May, 2009, 10:14 AM
On Monday 18 May 2009 7:01:05 pm bonoba...@yahoo.co.in
wrote:
In other
On Tuesday 19 May 2009 8:19:08 am Ramakrishnan Sundaram wrote:
2009/5/19 Chetan Nagendra che...@pobox.com:
Heh, Atul bashing hasn't stopped at all, has it?
Who's bashing Atul, tempting as that prospect is?
It's you.
Ram
Anybody have anything against hammers? Or talking about hammers? A
OT: but it might interest some:
An article I wrote that appeared in today's DNA on online advertising by the
Congress and the BJP.
http://is.gd/BehZ
Mahesh
Zainab,
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 1:05 AM, Zainab Bawa bawazaina...@gmail.com wrote:
Moreover, there are numerous rationalities at play when it comes to a
voting decision. My father, whose factory was burnt down during the
riots of 1993 and who was perhaps most paranoid when Gujarat riots of
Bharat Shetty [17/05/09 05:07 -0400]:
It is a well established fact that Modi is a decisive leader with
strong emphasis on good governance and strong development yielding
strong results. No wonder Gujarath has been given thumbs up in most
Are you joking? Or do you actually believe that?
--- On Sun, 17/5/09, Bharat Shetty bharat.she...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Bharat Shetty bharat.she...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [silk] Why have Indian exit polls been so off lately?
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Date: Sunday, 17 May, 2009, 2:37 PM
Zainab,
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 1:05 AM
On Sunday 17 May 2009 3:53:08 pm Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
Are you joking? Or do you actually believe that?
Raising hindutva card - hell, any number of people will do that .. Shiv
will probably point you to a bunch of harmless people (and I have very dear
relatives who are card carrying
I anyways expected these comments from Srs. when I was trying to reply
to Zainab that Modi did a lots of good things from developmental
perspective. I wasn't talking from Gujarath riots perspective. I
offered a viewpoint why Zainab's father might have found Modi better
than Advani despite some
Bonobashi bonoba...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
And his role in the murder of 2000 people of his state of course
doesn't matter a tinker's f**k.
I've seldom seen more cynical views of politics than yours.
While talking of cynical, what about results of the last two assembly
elections in Gujarat?
Thanks for sharing your experience with MARG and Emma Tarlo's work.
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Zainab Bawa bawazaina...@gmail.com wrote:
Exit polls cannot
capture people's perceptions of what constitutes government, good
governance practices, accountability, justice, etc. These are
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 4:41 AM, Bonobashi bonoba...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
--- On Sun, 17/5/09, Bharat Shetty bharat.she...@gmail.com wrote:
It is a well established fact that Modi is a decisive
leader with
strong emphasis on good governance and strong development
yielding
strong results. No
On 17-May-09, at 5:11 PM, Bonobashi wrote:
[snip]
And his role in the murder of 2000 people of his state of course
doesn't matter a tinker's f**k.
I've seldom seen more cynical views of politics than yours.
Despite still being pretty bitter about 1984, I voted Congress and in
the past
Brilliant,
We all should stop looking at the past and make sure right lizards get
into the Parliament on the development plank only. I feel caste,
religions and divisive politics should not be taken into count when
voting. Right Lizard should be selected on basis of what it will do
for the
:22 PM
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Subject: Re: [silk] Why have Indian exit polls been so off lately?
Brilliant,
We all should stop looking at the past and make sure right lizards get
into the Parliament on the development plank only. I feel caste,
religions and divisive politics should
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Bharat Shetty bharat.she...@gmail.com wrote:
I've been most delighted about Renuka Chowdhary's defeat, Vaiko's loss
and the loss of Ranjeet Ranjan wife of Pappu Yadav, and the defeat of
Sadhu Yadav, the terorrising brother of Laloo Yadav. Slowly, there is
On 17-May-09, at 10:38 PM, Mahesh Murthy wrote:
Somehow, every Modi and BJP / Hindutva plank apologist seems to
believe
that it's okay to order the killing (and subsequent hush-up) of
thousands of
Muslims as long as you're pro-development, especially if that tag
comes from
bribing the
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Vinayak Hegde vinay...@gmail.com wrote:
Other than this supposed king-makers and transferable vote politics
purveyor Ram Vilas Paswan lost from Hajipur - a contituency he had won
wit h a world record margin of votes a while before. So did
celebrities such as
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com wrote:
Somehow, every Modi and BJP / Hindutva plank apologist seems to believe
that it's okay to order the killing (and subsequent hush-up) of thousands of
Muslims as long as you're pro-development, especially if that tag
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com wrote:
Somehow, every Modi and BJP / Hindutva plank apologist seems to believe
that it's okay to order the killing (and subsequent hush-up) of thousands of
Muslims as long as you're pro-development, especially if that tag
And, people also forget that it was NDA under Vajpayee which made
India sound like responsible state that will not tinker insanely with
the Nuclear arms. Strobe Talbott mentions that in his book engaging
India that Jaswanth Singh achieved a lot more than what he wanted to
achieve and he was left
Before someone bashes me up, I wish to correct a small typo here:
Replace all BJP with Congress and the same comments will apply to them
as well easily keeping in view the Sikh riots.
Replace all BJP with Congress, Hindutva with pesudo-secularism and the
same comments will apply to them as
On 17-May-09, at 11:39 PM, Bharat Shetty wrote:
[snip]
The NDA also delivered stunning growth despite the economic sanctions
imposed by the Clinton government back then.
I'd like nothing more to see some evidence that the vast majority of
the 50% of the country that bothers to vote gives a
Taj,
Thanks for your inputs on the Punjab scenario. You are bang on target
right about Akali Dal being not strong development oriented in Punjab
and which helped Congress in elections. Akali Dal is a SAD party in
punjab and has lots of introspection to do.
However, you still didn't answer my
All that this does is to stop the presenting of a viewpoint, but it does
not
alter the fact that there are, out in the community, certain people and
certain red lines that cooperate to commit horrendous acts of murder and
destruction. A frank exchange of views is avoided by the calling of
Replace all BJP with Congress and the same comments will apply to them
as well easily keeping in view the Sikh riots. May be somebody - may
be me and others - will need to tell the average Indian that they are
voting for a party that thrives on pesudo-secularism, and statements
like Nitish
And the NDA also lost in 2004 because they didn't do much for rural
development and went with India is shining tag which only urban people
could relate to and backfired badly on them.
Do you really think so?
My personal view is that that explanation is a narrative devised
post-election to
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 7:48 AM, Bharat Shetty bharat.she...@gmail.com wrote:
To set the record
right, I'm not communal as well as Pseudo-Secular even though some of
you might want to portray me as one.
Bharat,
You ask us to believe your open mindedness and non-partisanship in the
issue of
Hi Badri ,
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Badri Natarajan asi...@vsnl.com wrote:
I too agree with what Shiv says. And please don't take me as a
supporter of Modi at all. But I offered a viewpoint that Zainab's
father might have thought on developmental planks. And I asked her to
confirm if she
Thaths,
Bharat,
You ask us to believe your open mindedness and non-partisanship in the
issue of Indian elections and politics. And yet you use the pejorative
epithet 'Pseudo-secular' to characterize the Congress. It is a little
hard to take your non-partisanship seriously when you are using
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Badri Natarajan asi...@vsnl.com wrote:
In other words, I think the NDA lost (or rather, the UPA won), because
they did extremely well in TN and AP, and the Communists also did rather
well and they managed to pull together a majority in Parliament.
Yes this is
Bharat Shetty [17/05/09 18:49 -0400]:
Please understand that I said these because supporters of both sides
use these terms commonly in today's context and I refuse to be branded
as supporter of a side you people might want to associate with me.
no no .. not both sides. only most of the right -
On 5/17/09 5:00 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote:
but the terms you used are exclusively the province of the hindutva parties
out here.
I think it is ridiculous to censor words just because it is a jargon
employed by some hardliners. Bharat is trying to present a view point
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Divya Manian divya.man...@gmail.com wrote:
I think it is ridiculous to censor words just because it is a jargon
employed by some hardliners. Bharat is trying to present a view point that
is most common among middle class Hindus. The least we can do is to listen
Typo:
that - what.
-- Bharat | http://twitter.com/shettyb
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Bharat Shetty bharat.she...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Divya Manian divya.man...@gmail.com wrote:
I think it is ridiculous to censor words just because it is a jargon
employed
Divya Manian [17/05/09 17:20 -0700]:
I think it is ridiculous to censor words just because it is a jargon
employed by some hardliners. Bharat is trying to present a view point that
is most common among middle class Hindus. The least we can do is to listen
to what he has to say.
That was
Divya Manian wrote, [on 5/18/2009 5:50 AM]:
but the terms you used are exclusively the province of the hindutva parties
out here.
I think it is ridiculous to censor words just because it is a jargon
employed by some hardliners.
I don't believe that is the point.
The point, which Karl
On Sunday 17 May 2009 10:38:36 pm Mahesh Murthy wrote:
Somehow, every Modi and BJP / Hindutva plank apologist seems to believe
If Modi could be pinned down that easily, it would not have been necessary to
paint every political suppoter of Hindutva as an abettor of murder. That
seems to be the
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Bharat Shetty bharat.she...@gmail.com wrote:
You ask us to believe your open mindedness and non-partisanship in the
issue of Indian elections and politics. And yet you use the pejorative
epithet 'Pseudo-secular' to characterize the Congress. It is a little
hard
I think it is ridiculous to censor words just because it is a jargon
employed by some hardliners.
People who control the mode of expression or language effectively, manage to
steer the public thought process the way they want it to go. The right wing
campaigners did that very very well for
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