of silver oxide can be made by simply putting silver into some
H2O2 for a couple of days, a good bit will form and settle out on the
bottom of the glass.
Marshall
Mike Monett wrote:
Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS
From: Ode Coyote
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 11:56:25
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. [poot]
ode
At 06:59 PM 8/24/2004 -0400, you wrote:
Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS
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Mike Monett wrote:
Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS
From: Marshall Dudley
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 12:34:18
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Ode Coyote wrote:
2 Ag+ + H2O2 2 Ag + O2 + 2H+
Ok, I see what he is doing now. That is true, but he ignores
Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS
From: Marshall Dudley
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 07:25:44
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This would certainly be interesting to try, however I don't agree
with your conclusions. Here
.
That's about as far as the seat of my pants can figure. [poot]
ode
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Mike Monett wrote:
Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS
From: Marshall Dudley
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 07:25:44
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This would certainly be interesting to try, however I don't agree
:)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 14:59:57 -0400
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
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Dear folks,
Following along ( at a GREAT distance) this fascinating insight into the
active intellects on this list, especially on this very *personally*
interesting point, I have been forced to wonder: Is the active ingestion
of all this CS, H202 and DMSO at least partly responsible for the
It's going to take a while to digest all this stuff.
It might be possible that the brownish tinge, if not the yellow color often
seen in CS is a form of silver oxide and I've also made CS that had a
blackish tinge that later settled out.
That's what I thought several years ago till I ran across
Agreed in one instance, at least.
The batch I made with peroxide as a starter made huge silver metal
flakes, conductivity pegged at 13 uS and stayed there while making metal
flakes for hours and hours..unmistakably pure metallic silver.. which
eventually converted into small black round balls
Interesting experiment. Lets see, I believe the 13 uS is approximately 13 ppm,
the solubility limit of silver oxide according to my CRC handbook. So that is
likely easy to explain, any silver oxide that did not dissolve likely remained
on
the electode.
Silver oxide will develop depositing onto
Ode Coyote wrote:
It's going to take a while to digest all this stuff.
It might be possible that the brownish tinge, if not the yellow color often
seen in CS is a form of silver oxide and I've also made CS that had a
blackish tinge that later settled out.
That's what I thought several
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Dear folks,
Following along ( at a GREAT distance) this fascinating insight into the
active intellects on this list, especially on this very *personally*
interesting point, I have been forced to wonder: Is the active ingestion
of all this CS, H202 and
Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS
From: Ode Coyote
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 11:56:25
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Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 13:50:34 -0400
To: odecoy
Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS
From: Marshall Dudley
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 12:34:18
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Ode Coyote wrote:
2 Ag+ + H2O2 2 Ag + O2 + 2H+
Ok, I see what he is doing now. That is true, but he ignores that
H2O2 and Ag will react
Ode Coyote wrote:
I think I have this straight but check me on it.
Silver hydroxide..a white stable insoluble powder ...a compound.
Silver hydroxl...an association of water with silver ions..in essence, that
hydrated or 'dissolved' ionic silver..not quite a compound ..a charge
influence
I simply had not done the experiments to determine what happens to metallic
silver yet, and my blasted laser died so I was unable to monitor tyndall. Wierd,
use to be able to get lasers everywhere, now I can't find one anuywhere. I also
am striking out on finding dextrose aka glucose in a pure
Hard to say. It appears from the little research I have done that silver oxide
will
not do this. So I guess the question would be if the NaCl in Gatorade will
react
with the ions faster than the glucose will, thus producing Silver Chloride,
instead
of metallic metal. But you do have a point
I also
am striking out on finding dextrose aka glucose in a pure form.
Have you checked diabetic supplies? Diabetics use pure glucose for insulin
shock treatment.
Redhead (newbie lurker)
All I have found so far it gel, that has junk in it to make it jell, and
tablets that have coloring, flavor and cirtic acid in them. Citric acid
would make silver citrate, complicating my data significantly.
Marshall
Liz Pavek wrote:
I also
am striking out on finding dextrose aka glucose in
Hello Liz,
Monday, August 23, 2004, 8:11:54 AM, you wrote:
I also
am striking out on finding dextrose aka glucose in a pure form.
Have you checked diabetic supplies? Diabetics use pure glucose for insulin
shock treatment.
Redhead (newbie lurker)
Try DEXTREVIT SOLD IN Mexican
This could explain the effectiveness of Brooks' Gatorade Factor...
George
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 23:34:11 -0400, Marshall Dudley wrote:
OK, I have confirmed that converting silver chloride to silver oxide is
exothermic, which means that the silver oxide is more stable. Thus possibility
2 of the
Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS
From: Marshall Dudley
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 21:08:25
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Hi Marshall,
I combined two posts to simplify things, and split the first para
into separate sentences to analyze. Hope it's ok..
OK, I just ran
I think I have this straight but check me on it.
Silver hydroxide..a white stable insoluble powder ...a compound.
Silver hydroxl...an association of water with silver ions..in essence, that hydrated or 'dissolved' ionic silver..not quite a compound ..a charge influence rather than an electron
What happened to pure metallic silver suspended particles?
Why only dissolved silver oxide?
Ode
At 11:23 PM 8/20/2004 -0400, you wrote:
OK, I just ran a test.
I started with 5 ppm EIS, approximately 80% ionic. I put equal amounts
into to
containers, and added a few drops of H2O2 to one of
That does open some interesting dimensions about the presence of blood
sugars and all.
Ode
At 11:34 PM 8/20/2004 -0400, you wrote:
OK, I have confirmed that converting silver chloride to silver oxide is
exothermic, which means that the silver oxide is more stable. Thus
possibility
2 of the
Mike Monett wrote:
Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS
From: Marshall Dudley
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 21:08:25
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m72757.html
Hi Marshall,
I combined two posts to simplify things, and split the first para
into separate sentences to analyze. Hope it's
Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS
From: Ode Coyote
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 10:27:03
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What happened to pure metallic silver suspended particles? Why
only dissolved silver oxide?
Ode
Ken, I'm sorry I have not responded to your
Here is a link that compares food grade H2O2 to technical grade
peroxide. Dennis.
Food Grade vs Technical Grade Hydrogen Peroxide H2O2 ...h2o2-4u, Clyde
Co-op, frad-35, hydrogen peroxide, h2o2, hydrogen peroxide therapy, food
grade hydrogen peroxide, ozone, oxy, ozonated, ozone, ozone,
Evening Mike,
Thanks for the explanation.
The reason such a small amount works is the H2O2 acts as a catalyst.
It is not consumed in the process of converting silver oxides back
to silver ions and oxygen.
Somehow I missed some of this. I have had some distractions lately. I
Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS
From: Wayne Fugitt
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 23:16:14
Hi Wayne,
Evening Mike,
Thanks for the explanation.
The reason such a small amount works is the H2O2 acts as a
catalyst. It is not consumed in the process of converting silver
oxides back
Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS
From: Mike Monett
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 12:05:43
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Sorry,I goofed in a previous postwhen calculating
part-per-billion. I brew in 2 litre batches and use 1/2 tsp but
forgot to divide
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Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS
Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS
From: Paul Holloway
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 01:19:18
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m72654.html
Peroxide you buy at the drug
Hi Mike,
I disagree with this part of your calculation:
Now, 1 ppm = 1 milliliter per litre
There are 1000 milliliters to a litre, so 1mL/L is 1 part per thousand.
I think you are thinking of CS, where 1mg per litre is ~1ppm.
So 0.0369 milliliters = 0.0369 ppm, or ~40 parts per billion
Mike Monett wrote:
So the basic conclusions remain as before. The black stuff is oxide.
Scrape off a small amount of the black stuff, and put it in a glass of
distilled water and warm. If it dissolves slowly, it is silver oxide, if
it does not then it is either silver peroxide, or finely
--
I agree, silver oxide is a conductor. Most metallic oxides are poor conductors
and I am surprised by this. I knew silver sulfide was a conductor, but not
silver oxide.
Thanks for the correction.
Marshall
Mike Monett wrote:
Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS
From: Marshall Dudley
Date: Fri, 20
Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS
From: Paul Holloway
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 11:21:30
Hi Mike,
I disagree with this part of your calculation:
Now, 1 ppm = 1 milliliter per litre
There are 1000 milliliters to a litre, so 1mL/L is 1 part per
thousand. I think you are thinking
Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS
From: Marshall Dudley
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 14:51:18
Mike Monett wrote:
So the basic conclusions remain as before. The black stuff is
oxide.
Scrape off a small amount of the black stuff, and put it in a
glass of distilled water and warm
Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS
From: Mike Monett
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 15:10:40
Some quickie notes on silver oxide batteries. They are ideal for
watch batteries and high drain applications. For example:
Energizer High Drain Silver Oxide Specs
Chemistry : Silver Oxide
Perhaps the contaminants from production stabilize it? I would give the
link if I could find it again, but I saw an analysis/comparison of 3%
grocery store peroxide to 35% food grade and the total amount of
extraneous stuff in the food grade was about the samedifferent
chemicals/metals or
I agree, silver oxide is a conductor. Most metallic oxides are poor
conductors and I am surprised by this. I knew silver sulfide was a
conductor, but not silver oxide.
Thanks for the correction.
Marshall
Mike Monett wrote:
Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS
From: Marshall Dudley
Date: Fri, 20 Aug
Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS
From: sol
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 17:18:03
Perhaps the contaminants from production stabilize it? I would
give the link if I could find it again, but I saw an
analysis/comparison of 3% grocery store peroxide to 35% food grade
and the total
OK, I just ran a test.
I started with 5 ppm EIS, approximately 80% ionic. I put equal amounts into to
containers, and added a few drops of H2O2 to one of them. I could see no
difference between, they were both crystal clear. I then added a pinch of salt
to both. The one without H2O2
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Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS
Evening Nancy,
Since we are talking just 1 drop for every two oz. of CS, the 3% topical
you buy works just fine.
I am not questioning your methods and the fact that they work.
Where did you come
OK, I have confirmed that converting silver chloride to silver oxide is
exothermic, which means that the silver oxide is more stable. Thus possibility
2 of the previous message is not eliminated as I had hoped it would be.
See http://www.finishing.com/195/29.html
This article also gives some
.
If this concerns you, you can buy food grade peroxide at some health food
stores, or online.
Paul H
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From: David davidgrave...@sbcglobal.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 4:07 AM
Subject: Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS
I was wondering, when we talk
.
Nancy
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From: Paul Holloway p.j.hollo...@btinternet.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 2:06 AM
Subject: Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS
I wanted to make some dark yellow CS as it seems
to help washing out
aspergillus from my sinuses
Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS
From: Paul Holloway
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 01:19:18
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m72654.html
Peroxide you buy at the drug store or Walmart usually contains
phenacetin as a stabilizer.
Some people like to avoid phenacetin, as it is toxic
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS
I was wondering, when we talk about Hydrogen Peroxide
here are we talking about the same stuff that you buy
at walmart? I have a bottle here.. it says Hydrogen
Peroxide Topical Solution USP
buy
works just fine.
Nancy
- Original Message -
From: David davidgrave...@sbcglobal.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS
I was wondering, when we talk about Hydrogen
Peroxide
here are we talking about
Evening Nancy,
Since we are talking just 1 drop for every two oz. of CS, the 3% topical
you buy works just fine.
I am not questioning your methods and the fact that they work.
Where did you come up with that ratio? That is about a 1 to 1200 ratio.
As to the percentage solution,
Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS
From: Wayne Fugitt
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:14:52
What does that small percent actually do? Are you sure that more
would not be better?
Wayne
Hi Wayne,
It doesn't take much. I use between 40 and 80 parts per billion,
depending on how carefully
Hi Revonda,
I think you might find that adding more H202 will get it to clear again.
Either way it should still be OK for consumption. That is assuming
that the peroxide is pure.
Also I have found that the cloudiness comes back on standing for a
week or so. As a generality if I add H2O2 it is
it a dark colour. Live mould
is almost black, dead mould is a green/brown colour, I think.
Paul H
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From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 3:42 AM
Subject: Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS
I've run into some strange
It is for me. Some batches do that, some don't, and some even turn
cloudy brown. If you let it keep sitting there it will clear up
eventually. Usually that is, if it doesn't clear in 24 hours, I add a
little more peroxide. I have had some batches that were clear that never
did show the cloudy
That is interesting. I've never had the cloudiness come back one the CS
does clear up, after adding H202. There are SO many variables.
sol
Tony Moody wrote:
Hi Revonda,
I think you might find that adding more H202 will get it to clear again.
Either way it should still be OK for
: CSAdding peroxide to CS
I wanted to make some dark yellow CS as it seems to help washing out
aspergillus from my sinuses,
I ran 1mA for two hours using hot water, with a bubbler. The ppm was over
10, but no yellow colour yet. Then I ran 1mA for another hour with no
bubbler. Still no yellow
Holloway p.j.hollo...@btinternet.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 2:06 AM
Subject: Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS
I wanted to make some dark yellow CS as it seems
to help washing out
aspergillus from my sinuses,
I ran 1mA for two hours using hot water
...@sbcglobal.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS
I was wondering, when we talk about Hydrogen Peroxide
here are we talking about the same stuff that you buy
at walmart? I have a bottle here.. it says Hydrogen
Peroxide Topical
Lots of folks use the food grade 35% H202, but after looking into it,
and looking at contaminants in the food grade H202 vs the stabilizers in
the grocery store type 3%, I personally have decided to stick with the
3% type, stabilizers and all. I get mine from Kmart or Walmart, and 3%
H202 is
CSAdding peroxide to CS
From: Revonda Henderson
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 22:33:13
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m72561.html
After completing a batch of CS I added 5 drops of peroxide (3%) to
about 30oz of CS. It immediately began turning to a cloudy white
consistency. I had
A cloudy white would most likely be silver oxide. I have never quite
understood what peroxide does to EIS. It seems that it should
immediately oxidize the ionic portion, which this seems to indicate
happened with you, and evidence suggests that it breaks up the colloidal
particles, but does not
That depends on the quality of the light it's in.
It will look cloudy white in linear light [as from the sun or a strong bright flashlight] and crystal clear in diffused light.
Ode
At 01:28 AM 8/17/2004 -0400, you wrote:
After completing a batch of CS I added 5 drops of peroxide (3%) to
Isn't silver oxide black to brown in color?
I have made suspended silver oxides and it appears as shades of black.
Silver carbonate is very cloudy white for a while...in any light till the light changes it to grey.
Silver chloride too.
Ode
At 09:14 AM 8/17/2004 -0400, you wrote:
A cloudy
You are right, it is silver chloride that is white. Now I am really confused.
Marshall
Ode Coyote wrote:
Isn't silver oxide black to brown in color?
I have made suspended silver oxides and it appears as shades of black.
Silver carbonate is very cloudy white for a while...in any light till
Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS
From: Ode Coyote
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 08:53:31
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Isn't silver oxide black to brown in color? I have made suspended
silver oxides and it appears as shades of black.
Silver carbonate is very cloudy white
me some black stuff.
Re-running a batch over and over to made some red.
Haven't done green yet.
Ode
At 05:40 PM 8/17/2004 -0400, you wrote:
Re: CSAdding peroxide to CS
From: Ode Coyote
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 08:53:31
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Isn't silver oxide
and it would become crystal
clear.
Nancy
- Original Message -
From: Revonda Henderson
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 12:28 AM
Subject: CSAdding peroxide to CS
After completing a batch of CS I added 5 drops of peroxide (3%) to about 30oz
of CS
After completing a batch of CS I added 5 drops of peroxide (3%) to about 30oz
of CS. It immediately began turning to a cloudy white consistency. I had read
that by adding the peroxide to the cs it would cause the tiny silver particles
to break up into even more minute particles. Is the cloudy
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