: CSSilver/Autism/Safety
YES!
Edzackly. It's way too simplistic to assume that because we can (do)
form silver chloride from ionic or even micro-particulate EIS silver in
a jar, that that is what is happening in the mammal stomach, or blood,
or lymph. How silver is bound, or transported in living
Can anyone tell me what this means with regards to *me!* Do the
particles stay in the tissues or not? Sorry but all this is a bit
overwhelming for me and I would be really grateful if someone could
put it in somewhat simpler terms please. Thanx. dee
On 25 Aug 2009, at 22:00, Norton,
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Can anyone tell me what this means with regards to *me!* Do the particles stay
in the tissues or not? Sorry but all this is a bit overwhelming for me and I
would be really
Oh right Steve. Sorry for being a twit! dee
On 26 Aug 2009, at 12:46, Norton, Steve wrote:
Dee,
Sorry for any anxiety. The disscussion isn't about silver staying
the tissues but about how different forms of silver, ionic vs
particles, pass out of the body. Through the liver or the
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Norton, Steve wrote:
Marshall,
As always, I appreciate your comments and correction of my errors. And
my errors are numerous.I did some more searching. There is little
research data on metallic silver that I could find except
You weren't. The text was talking about tissue loading, not elimination,
although the subject of discussion was elimination. So you were not the
only one confused. I am not sure what if any relation there is between
the two.
Marshall
Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
Oh right Steve. Sorry for
it's
only way out is through the feces.
- Steve
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From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:42 AM
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But can accumulation be linked to elimination? For instance
I didn't actually discover it and I don't recall who did...but I seem
to recall it was a female that brought it up about 2-3 years ago.
I may have developed the discovery some...Marshal too...and several others.
It was a lister who asked a question, I think..did it by accident or for
. But they do not
because for other sources of silver less than 1% of the silver is
excreted in the urine.
- Steve N
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From: Malcolm [mailto:s...@asis.com]
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 10:19 AM
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YES!
Edzackly
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From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 6:54 AM
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But when added to the data fro Frank Key that after ingesting CS, there
is no trace of silver ions in the blood, I
[mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com]
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But when added to the data fro Frank Key that after ingesting CS, there
is no trace of silver ions in the blood, I believe your analysis is
incorrect. I believe
through the liver.
- Steve
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From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:09 PM
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Norton, Steve wrote:
Marshall,
As always, I appreciate your comments
it is and how much less you really know.
- Steve N
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From: Malcolm [mailto:s...@asis.com]
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 10:38 PM
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Hi Steve,
My response was to Ode's post, and not directed as a criticism
Interesting history. Thanks. Makes you wonder how many discoveries were the
result of mistakes.
- Steve N
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From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net
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Sent: Tue Aug 25 04:08:58 2009
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The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries,
is not Eureka!
but That's funny'
-- Isaac Asimov
Chuck
All that glitters has a high refractive index.
On 8/25/2009 8:18:03 PM, Norton, Steve
On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 18:34 -0500, Norton, Steve wrote:
Malcolm,
a lot of mysteries and I wish I knew the answers to
some of them. The more you learn about the body the more you realize
what an amazing machine it is and how much less you really know.
Amen to that . . . . . .
- Steve
Natural Immunogenics did test tube tests...probably borrowed from the
University of Utah study.
Frank Key, the maker of MesoSilver tested for silver ions in the blood
after using ionic silver using an ion selective probe and found none.
However, he does have a means to determine total
The colloidal portion is unchanged by mixing. The ionic portion would
become silver chloride as it does in the stomach when your drink it.
Marshall
Pat wrote:
Silver Chloride still kills the germs, though, right? When you mix a
sinus rinse with colloidal silver and a salt, that's what
*From*: john freese jrf...@yahoo.com
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*Sent*: Sun Aug 23 16:49:19 2009
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Hello, Steve
How much hydrogen peroxide do you add to a quart of cs when you brew
23 16:49:19 2009
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Hello, Steve
How much hydrogen peroxide do you add to a quart of cs when you brew?
Thank you. John.
--- On *Sun, 8/23/09, Norton, Steve /stephen.nor...@ngc.com/* wrote:
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YES!
Edzackly. It's way too simplistic to assume that because we can (do)
form silver chloride from ionic or even micro-particulate EIS silver in
a jar, that that is what is happening in the mammal stomach, or blood,
or lymph. How silver is bound, or transported in living tissue is
largely
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We're talking about 3% H2O2, right?
Alan
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Marshall Dudley
mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:
Norton, Steve wrote:
Actually this is better answered by Marshall since he
discovered
sources of silver less than 1% of the silver is
excreted in the urine.
- Steve N
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From: Malcolm [mailto:s...@asis.com]
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 10:19 AM
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Subject: Re: CSSilver/Autism/Safety
YES!
Edzackly. It's way too simplistic
stephen.nor...@ngc.com
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Sent: Mon Aug 24 16:21:53 2009
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My opinion is not just based on a simplistic assumption as you have
stated. It is actually based on the test results posted at:
http://www.silvermedicine.org
-
From: Malcolm [mailto:s...@asis.com]
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 10:19 AM
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Subject: Re: CSSilver/Autism/Safety
YES!
Edzackly. It's way too simplistic to assume that because we can (do)
form silver chloride from ionic or even micro-particulate EIS silver
I have looked at this Tara, but I would wait for someone like Ode or
Marshall's expert opinion on this. It doesn't sound particularly
different to what we make ourselves on this list although they seem to
claim that it is. I don't know why they put hypoallergenic on it
though. Maybe
Stephan Quinto product...good stuff...from a lying salesman.
No different in any significant way from what we make at home for $1 a gallon.
Electrically Isolated Silver [EIS] 95% ionic with completely bogus
particle size claims, mixed contexts and mixed terms designed to confuse
the buyer.
brilliant article Ode, another one to save. dee
On 23 Aug 2009, at 11:13, Ode Coyote wrote:
Stephan Quinto product...good stuff...from a lying salesman.
No different in any significant way from what we make at home for $1
a gallon.
Electrically Isolated Silver [EIS] 95% ionic with
Tara,
Have no fear. Argentyn 23 is an excellent over the counter, high quality
silver product as is the company that produces it, Natural Immunogenics.
If you have no way to make your own - you can count on Argentyn 23 or
Sovereign Silver.
You can google it and the company and find out more.
And
Sorry, I had missed this post, I will read the info. on this site as well -
THANKS!
Tara McClintick
www.booksbytara.com
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From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org]
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:20 AM
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From: Tara McClintick tmcclint...@fuse.net
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Sent: Sat Aug 22 13:55:24 2009
Subject: CSSilver/Autism/Safety
Hello,
I am new to this list. I am looking for information regarding treating my son
with silver – specifically Argentyn 23
: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:04 PM
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Argentyn 23 is a fine ionic silver but I would not consider it the best
value.
First, the price is $36 for 8 oz. IMO that is high. You can make your own
for about 1/100 of that.
Second, the high
: CSSilver/Autism/Safety
Do you consider an ionic percentage of over 60% to be potentially unsafe? Is
that what the controversy is about? I’m just curious, learning about silver is
all very new to me.
Tara McClintick
www.booksbytara.com
From: Norton
I have been lead to believe that 80% ionic to 20% colloidal is the
best percentages to have. Trem has provided an article which claims
that Natural Immunogenics (who make Argentyn 23) actually did in
vitro tests that proved that ionic is the most efficaceous. This is
the mix that most
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Sent: Sun Aug 23 12:46:51 2009
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I have been lead to believe that 80% ionic to 20% colloidal is the best
percentages to have. Trem has provided an article which claims that Natural
Immunogenics (who make Argentyn 23
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Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:05:11 PM
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There is a difference between in vitro and in vivo performance of ionic silver.
Ionic silver should always perform better than silver particles in in vitro
tests because a significant portion
not use salt in an EIS nasal spray.
- Steve N
From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Sun Aug 23 13:35:33 2009
Subject: Re: CSSilver/Autism/Safety
Silver Chloride still kills the germs, though, right? When you
Hello, Steve
How much hydrogen peroxide do you add to a quart of cs when you brew? Thank
you. John.
--- On Sun, 8/23/09, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote:
From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com
Subject: Re: CSSilver/Autism/Safety
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, August 23
to as much as 60 % by adding a small amount of
hydrogen
From: john freese jrf...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Sun Aug 23 16:49:19 2009
Subject: Re: CSSilver/Autism/Safety
Hello, Steve
How much hydrogen peroxide do you add
Steve, have you ever had an analysis of your EIS done for ion/particle ratio?
That's just straight EIS as we produce it without HP added, straight from the
brewery on might say g.
N.
Subject: Re: CSSilver/Autism/Safety
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 11:04:00 -0500
From: stephen.nor...@ngc.com
Hello,
I am new to this list. I am looking for information regarding treating my
son with silver - specifically Argentyn 23. A nutritional expert has
recommended this product for my 13 year old son. I was given info. about
this list as a place to find out more info. Any experience?
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