Dear Kathryn, Malcolm, and group!
Anybody tempted to do *anything* around the guts of a microwave oven
needs to take all the cautions about high voltages and keeping yourself
out of the circuit *VERY* *SERIOUSLY*, as we don't want to lose any of
you.
Until you know how and why things are
Regarding making CS with high voltage (neon sign transformers and microwave
ovens): Isn’t there a problem with nitrates and nitrites being induced into
the solution from the atmosphere unless precautions are taken (such as doing
it under a blanket of inert gas)?
Andy
In our town the city council is lifting the smoking ban at the park so that
people can smoke medicinal marijuana.
How are things going in your town? (^_^)
http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/localstories/ci_10417491
Best wishes,
Andy
In a message dated 9/10/2008 4:41:50 P.M. Pacific Daylight
Dear Neville,
You're asking great questions. Keep it up and you'll get it in time.
One has a circuit... does the electricity run
directional? ie; does it circulate starting at the positive passing the
3:00 and return through the negative, or does it pass around the 9:00
and return to the
New book: 'Harnessing Big Foots foot prints {They imply he exists, but
don't prove it }
ode
At 06:57 PM 9/11/2008 -0700, you wrote:
Hi Neville,
As a book I once saw had for a title There Are No Electrons g
We think there are, they are an explanatory device to help us navigate a
world of
I would have thought that just to turn the microwave on would kill any
toxins in it! dee
Clayton Family wrote:
Dear List,
I am trying to rid my house of airborne toxins. These may have
accumulated in the inner working of the microwave as they did in the
fridge. One way to detoxify these
BRAVO for Santa Cruz!
Bob
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 12:04 AM
Subject: Re: CS OT - Hemp Oil Cures Cancer Video
In our town the city council is lifting the smoking ban at the park so
that
people can
I think we'd better squelch this line of discussion. Right or Left,
it's all humanity, and its manifold failures won't be a productive
thing to discuss on the main list...
I do have a response, which I'll post on the Off Topic list.
Thank you,
Mike Devour
silver-list owner
very expensive
Can the Godzilla be used on a child's stubborn tooth abcess? Where can
one be purchased?
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Kathryn,
You should consider Malcolms suggestion about using bleach. It is a
great disinfectant and does dissipate leaving no residue. It generally
isn't used for electronics because it is an oxidant and can corrode
metals but if you dry the microwave in a reasonable time it should be no
problem.
Thanks for that Mike, I may know my stuff with mobile earthmoving equipment
and semi trailers and whatever other work I have been involved in, but
electricity...DUH!! I appreciate the patience and tolerance everyone has
shown here and will continue with my 'tutorials' while trying to keep my
Dee,
I believe that she wants to remove the outer case of the microwave and
clean where the electronics are. That area is shielded from the
microwaves.
- Steve N
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From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org]
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 5:16 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Dear Neville,
You write:
[The actual linear velocity of the electrons within the wire is
proportional to the current: Zero with the switch off, and limited by
ohm's law, ie. total circuit resistance and voltage, when on.]
As a simple example...the higher the current, the quicker the
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 10:48 PM
Subject: CSThinking about current flow: for Neville
[In metals and other good conductors, the medium by which current flows
is usually moving electrons.
Hi Neville,
Practically; the silver rod which is wired to the + of the powersupply gets
thinner due to electrolysis.
OK.
Tony
On 12 Sep 2008 at 9:22, Neville wrote about :
Subject : CSVarification?
OK, I have researched electronics a bit now but as I can't find a definitive
answer I need to
The microwave that I have, which I am considering using for CS, has a
resistance associated with it to discharge the capacitor. Not sure how
long it takes. The TV will hold a charge for a long time.
Dan
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From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com]
Sent:
Dear Steve, Malcolm, Mike, Dee,
Thank you all for the input and the ideas. I am reading them and
mulling them over. Yes, the toxins tend to be airborn. Cleaning
appliances can be very time consuming since there are many areas that
are not so easy to get to. Buying new ones is certainly
I remember hearing about this, yes. Silver nitrates was what I heard.
kathryn
On Sep 12, 2008, at 1:56 AM, ascottsil...@aol.com wrote:
Regarding making CS with high voltage (neon sign transformers and
microwave
ovens): Isn’t there a problem with nitrates and nitrites being
induced into
the
OMG- you live in that freaky so-left-wing-it- made ted kennedy look
like a right winger- town of santa cruz.
Sorry to hear that. You have my condolences.
kathryn
On Sep 12, 2008, at 2:04 AM, ascottsil...@aol.com wrote:
In our town the city council is lifting the smoking ban at the park
Scary stuff! I think I would leave well alone and either get a new one,
or not bother with microwaving. dee
Norton, Steve wrote:
Dee,
I believe that she wants to remove the outer case of the microwave and
clean where the electronics are. That area is shielded from the
microwaves.
- Steve N
Dan writes:
I take exception to this characterization. Electricity in a metal
conductor moves at the speed of light.
Yes, Dan, the effects of an EMF propagate at the speed of light, but
individual *electrons* don't! (To the extent they exist as discrete
objects at all!)
The ping-pong balls
very expensive place to live... very pretty, no ghettos.
either being so left-wing is good for the economy, or they're a bunch of
two-faced hypocrites being also greedy capitalists on the base level.
wonder which?
freedoms allowed doesn't necessarily mean they're abused, does it?
i guess hard
Hi G,
If you go to the Yahoo group Microelectricitygermkiller you can learn how
to make a simple 6 Volt Godzilla for under $15. If you want something
premade there is someone on that list who likes to keep a fairly low profile
who may answer you if you post a request for one.
Blessings,
Dan Nave wrote:
The microwave that I have, which I am considering using for CS, has a
resistance associated with it to discharge the capacitor. Not sure how
long it takes. The TV will hold a charge for a long time.
Give me the value of the resistor, and the capacitors, and I can tell
you
...TV's and monitors with CRT's can accumulate charge in unplugged storage
even if the cap is drained initially. i forget how it works, but it's
apparently true.
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From: Dan Nave [mailto:dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com]
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 1:40 PM
To:
Hey Kathryn,
I need some of that good old-fashioned retro condolence, since I lived
there in the mid-eighties. Most folks work in San Jose and commute over
a road dubbed Blood Alley, because it is curvy and dangerous. I
commuted to a company which built the Bradley Fighting Vehicle...yep
The capacitor is 10 ufd. On the schematic, the resistor is shown
parallel to the capacitor, but has no value.
I am not sure if it is an external resistor or if it indicates an
inherent internal leakage of the capacitor.
Dan
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From: Marshall Dudley
Evening Neville,
At 12:00 PM 9/12/2008, Neville wrote:
forces. So it's reasonable to state that electrons are flowing from the
negative terminal of your battery, through the wires and load, and back
to the positive terminal. ]
The real question, and when you can answer this one, I will buy
Okay, guys, I yield! But if you can come up with *better* imagery
that's intuitive *and* rigorous, I'm all ears! grin
Mike D.
Evening Mike,
At 10:41 AM 9/12/2008, you wrote:
The higher the voltage or lower the resistance, then yes, the
current will be higher, which means the electrons
Evening Dan,
At 12:39 PM 9/12/2008, you wrote:
The microwave that I have, which I am considering using for CS, has a
resistance associated with it to discharge the capacitor. Not sure how
long it takes. The TV will hold a charge for a long time.
Much of the equipment I have worked on has
Many toxins are actually bits and pieces of dead bacteria and fungi or
their excretion products; thus the microwave may actually contribute
more toxins to some minor degree. Also there are many parts of the oven
that aren't irradiated, but just collect dust and particulate debris
because of that
Dan Nave wrote:
The capacitor is 10 ufd. On the schematic, the resistor is shown
parallel to the capacitor, but has no value.
I am not sure if it is an external resistor or if it indicates an
inherent internal leakage of the capacitor.
Dan
The time value of the voltage would be:
E =
I take exception to this characterization. Electricity in a metal
conductor moves at the speed of light.
You are opening a can of worms talking about the speed of flow of actual
electrons or charges...
Dan
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From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com]
Sent:
Ummm,
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 15:36 -0005, M. G. Devour wrote:
Dear Neville,
You write:
[The actual linear velocity of the electrons within the wire is
proportional to the current: Zero with the switch off, and limited by
ohm's law, ie. total circuit resistance and voltage, when on.]
Yes, a good point! In fact often you can short out a capacitor several
times in a row and get a spark each time; Yikes! High voltage
capacitors are especially likely to behave this way, because the
insulating element that separates the two plates of the cap becomes
formed by the electrical
Per Wayne asking why not send to the whole list, I have decided to do so.
Not a complete list, just sources I've found personally helpful and
informative.
Books (in no particular order)
Adrenal Fatigue: the 20th Century Stress Syndrome by James L. Wilson,
N.D., D.C., PhD
Safe Uses of
Evening Mike,
At 10:41 AM 9/12/2008, you wrote:
The higher the voltage or lower the resistance, then yes, the
current will be higher, which means the electrons are moving faster
in the wire.
In that case, how can one calculate watts ?
Measure or guess ?
Unless I misunderstand it,
Kathryn,how didya know?
Yeah, actuelly we'r all from Sirius the Dawg star 'bout a hunnert years
ago, gran sed, we'r diffrnt'n you an we'r same's each other and we'r
gonna take over yore good ol' yew ess of ayy any day now, soon's we
kin get straight enuff Oh, wait, thass the rednecks gonna dew
Didit; but other than that small glitch it was an excellent explanation
for Neville's purposes, Props!!
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 18:59 -0005, M. G. Devour wrote:
Okay, guys, I yield! But if you can come up with *better* imagery
that's intuitive *and* rigorous, I'm all ears! grin
Mike D.
You're right Andy.
More so with the methods used for neon xfmers than the microwave
setup.
You either use a CO2 blanket or be sure the 'trodes are both under
water.
Arcing over the water surface and the humid air conditions will cause
nitric acid to form (not a good thing).
On 9/12/2008 2:51:48 AM, M. G. Devour (mdev...@eskimo.com) wrote:
Lastly, you may want to read some of the materials on the alleged
dangers of consuming microwaved foods. We use ours a lot less than we
used to.
Yeah,
That was why I had a mw've to convert to CS maker supreme.
We had ditched
Neville,
Maxwells equations, not Marshall,
shakes headmutter, muttersigh...
Chuck
Some national parks have long waiting lists for camping reservations.
When you have to wait a year to sleep next to a tree, something is
wrong.
On
Hee, Hee,
I love it when you talk dirty, Marshall...
Chuck
What if there were no hypothetical questions?
On 9/12/2008 4:16:26 PM, Marshall Dudley (mdud...@king-cart.com)
wrote:
Dan Nave wrote:
The capacitor is 10 ufd. On the schematic, the resistor is
OK, job done, now that it seems I have successfully got a few of you at each
others throats, I'll just back out now and disappear into the
sunset.No, joking of course. Hey look, of all the explanations and
analogies etc I have to work with I do believe I'm building up a picture of
EXCELLENT!! Just love that. Thanks Chuck, I can't stop laughing.
Sorry.
N.
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: CSThinking about current flow: for Neville
Neville,
Maxwells equations,
STOP IT!! My hysterical laughter is becoming more uncontrollable! I'm
still trying to recover from your mutter, mutter, sigh comment.
N.
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Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: CSOT:
Does anyone out there have any advice on treating a frozen shoulder?
Cheers, Roger
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Does anyone out there have any advice on treating a frozen shoulder?
Cheers, Roger
There's some info here =
http://curezone.com/dis/1.asp?C0=970
Smitty
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Yes... acupuncture.
Bob
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Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 5:50 PM
Subject: CSFrozen shoulder.
Does anyone out there have any advice on treating a frozen shoulder?
Cheers,
Gee, Mike, sigh
ok, I won't say anything more. I am not on the OT list anymore, so I
am sorry I won't be able to read what you have to say. You could copy
it to me directly, though.
As you know, tongue in cheek does not come through well in text media.
I know alot of people in Santa Cruz
Hi Kathryn,
It’s not that bad. There is a liberal city council and a liberal arts
university so you get some freaky white kids. They threaten professors that do
research on flies and rats or sit in redwood trees and refuse to come down.
The
gangs are Mexican kids who stab each other over
Isn't Mike saying I = E/R Where I is directly proportional to E and
inversely proportional to R?
Now,weather electrons speed up and sow down, I don't know about that...
Andy
In a message dated 9/12/2008 3:46:07 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
cwa...@netdoor.com writes:
Evening Mike,
Oops, now in plain text with corrections...
Isn't Mike saying I = E/R Where I is directly proportional to E and
inversely proportional to R?
watts still = I x E
Now, whether electrons speed up and slow down, I don't know about that...
Andy
In a message dated 9/12/2008 3:46:07 P.M.
Hi, almost forgot; the clothes dryer is infamous for collecting lint,
dust, and after years of use, suddenly catching on fire. This is not
the best way to clean it though. Usually the front panel can be wangled
free and the truly incredible amounts of foof peeled off the motor,
pulleys and
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