To endorse, in the West we won’t confirm the sun has come up before coffee.
Without coffee it’s not important if the sun is risen.
Best.
Bruce.
> On 07/03/2024 8:35 AM PDT Steve Leyton wrote:
>
>
>
> Damn you guys – I’m not on vacation and was awake when Rick pinged as well.
> This m
Yes, definitely earthquake country. The Managua Earthquake even helped trigger
the downfall of the Samoza family regime. It doesn’t make you popular when the
American Red Cross and the U.S. Air Force fly down blood, and you immediately
put it on another aircraft, fly it back to the U.S. and sell
Is this the manufacturer or a distributor? As a mere local AHJ often I could
make a phone call or two to a manufacturer, and get the person who worked with
a FM Global P.E. In this case they really are pleased to assist the local fire
department when they keep distance with other parts of the fi
talked with the architect to confirm where Area of Refuge is going to
be?
Best.
Bruce Verhei.
> On 03/26/2024 3:48 PM PDT Hinson, Ryan wrote:
>
>
>
> Placement/coordination within the stairwell is also important since the riser
> location cannot encroach into the mi
I agree with all in this case.
Low point drains and inspection’s test can cause water damage in earthquakes.
In Anthony C.’s home turf the most common break I saw in what our E-376 calls
tilt-up town were in these lines. 1” tee’d over to wall, a 90 down, and almost
immediately a 4” piece of un
As I think through this the one thing I like most is the 40’. Better a distance
than too close. Does the install instruction sheet for the sprinklers include a
spray pattern. Some chairs, low tables, magazine or two, and a couple fake
plants is what I hear.
I might print out plan and impose sp
I remember there was always a great deal of controversy over the material, at
least in WA State. The our City’s Building Department (Plumbiing Code AHJ)
opposed its use, and lost in some formal hearing. I remember the industry did
fly in rep’s from Texas for the hearing. Someone else other than
Unfortunately I assume we can’t arrange wagers on this forum. I’d give odds
Steve L is correct on more than one of his points.
One more reason to follow the no installation prior to plans review practice.
I’ve gone round and round more than once on 13-D that just don’t work
hydraulically. Know
We regularly allowed FM Global as partial, especially for parts that had to do
with controlling fire, i.e., every part of a data sheet that had to do with the
fuel matrix, the storage system, how fire and jet would propagate, how heat
would get to fusible part of sprinkler head, head install, in
At the point of two floors I’d encourage chat with FM office. Are they going to
require separate water flow switch for each floor. This requires pipe and valve
configuration to match.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 12/19/2023 1:33 PM PST Prahl, Craig wrote:
>
>
>
> The interst
0.434 vs 0.433, U of M. Something to do with measurement of mass in the
proximity of turtles. I don’t get it either.
bv
> On 11/02/2023 6:00 AM PDT Bob Caputo wrote:
>
>
>
> Lets look at this from the practical application side of things. The
> standpipe and its valves are there for the
compressed
air provides impetus for flow until pressure drops below current pressure in
municipal main.
If you’ve ever lived off a single family well the (bladdered) pressure tank
acts exactly the same to prevent the pump turning on at each small flow.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 10/06/2023 1:41
each tenant space. You
just are proposing to have only part of this.
I might discuss some system to assist future persons doing ITM locate valves,
and a total number. Spk. Sys 2 Valve 1 etc. signs. The concept of a checksum
applied to case might be helpful.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 08
I’d expect the underfloor to have two sections. One the plenum, is immediately
below the filter bank.
The second is the exhaust duct.
Best.
bv
> On 08/18/2023 12:50 PM PDT Rick Matsuda wrote:
>
>
>
> Yes, install sprinklers in the pit and along any “ductwork” that goes from
> the pi
I tried to note approved annunciator location at pre-development meeting
letter, before building permit application had been made. Have you talked with
fire plan reviewer?
Best.
> On 08/07/2023 11:17 AM PDT Steve Leyton wrote:
>
>
>
> Not strictly a sprinkler question, but does anyone kn
an off panel control pad/annunciator. Some
bidders will want to place this at a remote location, and fail to provide one
at the box. No. I know UL 864 is not in your back pocket. If you did you’d find
one is required adjacent to the box, with additional ones to meet other needs.
Best.
Bruce
Does 13 have a definition of Dwelling Unit? If not I’d look more towards the
building code definition.
> On 06/09/2023 10:09 AM PDT Anthony Johnson
> wrote:
>
>
> I have an R-2 occupancy hotel being designed to NFPA 13 2019 ed.
> The attic is getting a dry system and the capacity is 700 gal
My experience. FD fire investigators are arson detectives. Once cause ruled
accidental, their part is done. They move on. Second is that they have no
special knowledge of systems beyond that expected of another journeyman FF. We
don’t expect FF’s to necessarily be able to plan review a wet chem
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>
>
> On 5/19/2023 10:31 AM, BRUCE VERHEI wrote:
>
> > For the AHJ types skulking out there, I would back up Scot’s comm
good intent, and is not to be applied for those who go looking for what-if
loopholes.
We accepted 8-9 all the time, while still applying the seismic etc standards
from #13.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 05/18/2023 3:34 PM PDT å... wrote:
>
>
>
> If the client restict
What has posterity ever done for me?
> On 03/28/2023 2:27 AM å... wrote:
>
>
>
> Whoever conned or bribed the NFPA and FMGlobal into allowing the name
> 'clean agent' to be used for fluorinated gas suppression systems got away
> with murder.
>
> And while they are stable,
Pulp mills make pulp. Paper mills use pulp to make finished paper. Baled to me
makes it most likely this is kraft pulp, although sulfite pulp is possible.
Dried Kraft pulp* is typically sold in two forms. In bales of maybe 100-150kg
with for to the pallet, if palletized. If not palletizded, bale
considerations.
There may already be a plan review letter that discusses just this issue in
some detail.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 02/14/2023 4:50 PM Fpdcdesign wrote:
>
>
>
> Simplistically, there is one 8” riser that feeds two 6” combination
> standpipes. Each combination
the radar for consumption and waste, it will be impossible
to fall back off the radar.
Glad to hear opinions.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 12/14/2022 10:16 AM Hinson, Ryan wrote:
>
>
>
> NFPA 13 (2022) Section 16.4.5 with ‘enhanced content’ and some new
> standard lan
It took years to convince our largest water purveyor to make most common DDCVA
location in riser room. Several features needed to be bundled to get them
finally accept.
> On 11/19/2022 6:32 AM Michael Slaughter
> wrote:
>
>
> Bob,
>
> You're correct, there are limited situations
Bidder-design project? With ESFR especially you need someone who knows
sprinklers on the inside of the project. That person needs to be involved when
roof structure options are considered.
Still miss Joe Hankins.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 11/02/2022 1:35 PM Anthony Carrizosa
>
contractor will pass
them on to bidding sprinkler contractors. As if.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 10/27/2022 2:52 PM Steve Leyton wrote:
>
>
>
> I’m sorry it took a couple days to formulate a response to this –
> hopefully it’s still of value.
>
>
> “Wall Hyd
contractor will pass
them on to bidding sprinkler contractors. As if.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 10/27/2022 2:52 PM Steve Leyton wrote:
>
>
>
> I’m sorry it took a couple days to formulate a response to this –
> hopefully it’s still of value.
>
>
> “Wall Hyd
Are the permit and approved plans for the booth available?
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 09/07/2022 10:02 AM Dapr Jones wrote:
>
>
> I'm working on a project where there will be a couple open face spray
> booths inside the space.
>
> Similar to this:
> https://
probably invisible to the
sprinkler designers.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 08/31/2022 9:35 AM Steve Leyton wrote:
>
>
> I respectfully, but stridently disagree. To this comment and Rick’s
> overarching question, I would offer that our experience over the past 10+
> years h
. These glorified closets are usually ca 10 sq ft.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
On 07/05/2022 6:57 AM Brian Harris wrote:
We’ve been asked to provide the AHJ with something in writing stating adding (1) head to a non
systems. I can
discuss further if someone likes.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 06/27/2022 4:11 PM travis.m...@mfpdesign.com wrote:
>
>
>
> I think it is 2019 or 2022 that talks about things like a trellis that
> can’t trap heat should not need sprinklers. It is in
room was the highest fire hazard.
They can be difficult to contact. The facility in our town worked nights.
Couriers showed up. Each dose was prepared for a particular patient. Among the
criteria was patient’s scheduled time of test being crucial.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 06/13/2022 3:59
y enough at it to help with your questions about
> cost basis though…
>
>
> Steve L.
>
>
> From: BRUCE VERHEI
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2022 2:40 PM
> To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
> Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Press-fit Type Systems
&
.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
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to spray
pattern. I’ve seen failure to operate. I’ve never seen failure to stop fire in
the duct or to roof if head operated.
Access for inspection of the head is so much more important, and is so much be
harder to get correct.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 05/02/2022 9:06 AM Matt Grise wr
Classic example of failure to design for commissioning, and ITM.
Anything that disturbs the interior of the solid stream drastically affects
range.
Please post photo of eventual test.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 04/26/2022 3:17 PM Steve Leyton wrote:
>
>
>
> All:
Can you talk directly with fire protection person for the product’s
corporation, I mean Coca Cola or Pepsi? I can’t believe there have been full
scale fire tests of this specific product.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 04/11/2022 6:08 PM Joe Burtell wrote:
>
>
> I would ap
For the record I’ve been the conduit and tester for a lot of water flow tests
done for purpose of sprinkler design. I ain’t never doctored .
You can quote me on that.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 03/15/2022 7:18 AM Byron Weisz wrote:
>
>
>
> I think there are some
I was just the low life plan reviewer. Forbidden to comment. It was just
obvious to me sometimes that primary design intent of plan submittal was for
plans to be rejected, with goal of renegotiating price. All I could do was
write a review letter and put it on hold.
Then six weeks later they te
to the would call for spill control and secondary
containment, with criteria, or confirmation that code required secondary
containment would not be triggered.
We had a couple projects that had 60 minutes, driven by insurer.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 12/14/2021 4:08 PM James Crawford
Is the dry system water delivery software capable of modeling this
configuration, using a given water supply?
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 10/27/2021 9:50 AM Kevin Hall via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
> If the pipe marked in red is removed and capped off, it eliminates an
suppose amongst concerns is time to bleed line, and
start to attack fire.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 10/21/2021 8:30 AM Moschello, Joe via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
> It's an FDNY DOB local law amendment NYC made back in 2010 as a result of the
> Deutsche Bank fire in 200
the FD’s. As they don’t access the building I don’t
think we kept them in the semi-secure, remote release box in the engines etc.
If address was stamped on would scrap buyers stop pretending they don’t know
source?
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 10/14/2021 8:16 AM Ed Kramer via Sprinklerfo
sync.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 09/18/2021 6:39 AM David Williams via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
> Sorry about not including more information…I was trying to be a bit coy about
> the situation.
>
> These are petroleum pipeline facilities, designed originally in 20
feature no plans reviewer is going to count on a spk contractor
getting out their checkbook.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 09/17/2021 2:30 PM David Williams via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
> I’ve been asked to look at a new industrial building, generally unoccupied
> except for ser
a typical reason I am in favor of at least some uniformed involvement
in fire plan review.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 09/15/2021 12:14 PM Mike Morey via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
> We see them this way all the time, typically they are 2 way only and often
> painted a d
Apologies. I meant to note that theses were originally my comments. bv
> On 09/14/2021 2:27 PM BRUCE VERHEI via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
> This is cut and past of partial comments from discussion on another forum,
> originating from an NFSA post.
>
> What is miss
This is cut and past of partial comments from discussion on another forum,
originating from an NFSA post.
What is missing from this excerpt is pressure rating of the hose. At acceptance
and annually FD’s test hose at 250 psi. You are quickly going to lose
persuasion ability with your fire plan
picture first.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 08/27/2021 9:48 AM Richard Mote via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
> After speaking more with the customer. They originally never intended for the
> fire pump to be on the backup generator. Their main concern is by having a
&
From an old fire guys perspective I’d be more concerned with accidental head
breakage than water dispersal.
Best.
> On 07/01/2021 3:01 PM Larrimer, Peter A (HEFP\19HEF) via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for that clarification. I missed that.
>
> Pete
>
> -Original Message
rable to that found in the 2016 NFPA 13?
>
> Thanks,
>
> SJ
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sprinklerforum On
> Behalf Of BRUCE VERHEI via Sprinklerforum
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 11:12 AM
> To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
> Cc:
. Of course the were all promptly
repaired. Sure.
Invisible to the private fire protection community the public main system
continued to have breaks for the next six months.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 06/24/2021 1:58 PM Steven Jenkins via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
&g
.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 06/24/2021 10:53 AM Nick Maneen via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
> You aren't missing it. It's good to put a hanger on a long drop especially
> if it is goosenecked so it doesn't roll in the coupling on grooved pipe but
> it isn&
In Puget Sound area it’s rare to find a dry hydrant with individually gated
ports that isn’t as old as me.
I’m curious to hear why it is necessary to calculate friction loss through the
hydrant.
Best.
Bruce V.
> On 04/26/2021 6:00 PM Steve Leyton via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
> Wet bar
calc’ed numbers were.
Of course fire flow call’s are for completed building.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 04/21/2021 12:51 PM Mark.Phelps via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
> I've had at least one Official state (opinion) that the "Fire Flow" @ 20
> PSI" was
In this day and age of digital everything it’s surprising that someone doesn’t
sell a hydro pump set up with any auto shut off, with a standard 205 psig and
select, with relief at 210 psig.
Best.
Bruce V.
> On 04/16/2021 4:12 PM Tom Duross via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Matt.
>
architect and
submit a building permit application.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 04/08/2021 10:58 AM Vince Sabolik via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
> Limited Area System 4.12
>
>
>
> On 4/8/2021 10:04 AM, Thomas Reinhardt via Sprinklerforum wrote:
> > Question
I’ve been going though in my head a small unit with low pressure loss at low
flow and a large unit in parallel that’s efficient at high flow. I just can’t
see a reasonable total cost.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 04/02/2021 10:57 AM Dane Long via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
>
Please reference
https://youtu.be/e7Vkdb9z2qc
Mike H. Et al:
Is this standards change typical, i.e., not intended to apply retroactively?
I assume other manufacturers are putting out similar listed or marked products.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
system.
In the U.S. I would expect common ownership, or a condo type of ownership.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 03/23/2021 5:54 PM Gipson, Russell via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
> Thank you for your response Scot.
>
>
> Original message
> From: &q
Before you spend your cash I’d make sure you have the correct thread standard.
Best.
Bruce.
> On 03/18/2021 2:55 PM Skyler Bilbo via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
> Sorry, the one I sent was NST on the 4" side. This should be the correct
> one.
>
> https://www.firehosedirect.com/aluminum-4-
I wish we used two terms. I used to call the 13-D test a ‘leak test’, instead
of hydrostatic test. That’s what we really mean here. We want to see the pipe
charged, and see if it leaks.
A hydrostatic and a leak test aren’t really the same thing.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 03/18/2021 8:21
I’d ask why. Is the fire sprinkler system acting as detection system for a
smoke exhaust system?
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 03/18/2021 8:05 PM Travis Mack via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
> We've had cases where the 2 story volume area is required to be protected
I’d always been skeptical of the adequacy of two seismic allowances in
13/13-R/13-D. After following up lots of spk system breaks post-Nisqually
Earthquake I changed my mind. 1. Those long one or two head drops from roof
level in a tilt-up to office build outs, including hard ceilings in restroo
, sometimes the building owner with just this issue. Bid without
increased spacing. If more time than this, or particularly vehement, I’d ask
inspector to stop by. Yep, already installed per submitted plan.
Meanwhile every other plan review is waiting in my in basket.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 02
Talk with the fire plans reviewer.
> On 02/11/2021 7:41 PM Jerry Van Kolken via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
> I'm doing a project for Cal State, and I'm trying find the code that would
> dictate when an FDC needs to be remotely located away from the building. I
> seem to remember a requirem
, water added, and made into finished
paper. Again, commonly a couple hundred kilograms.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
PS. The only false operation I ever personally saw was in roll storage area of
a pulp mill. I heard this air hissing up at the roof, and stood there staring
up like a duck in traffic. When
Kevin,
Do FM data sheets now reflect results of these tests?
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 01/26/2021 2:02 PM Kevin Hall via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
> There is an active FPRF project that addresses storage occupancies and
> sloped ceilings. It is currently in its third ph
.
> On 11/20/2020 7:50 PM Kenneth Berman via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
> steel fuel lines are good. Use super dope, no tape. NFPA used to require a
> check valve in the fuel return, I still put it in the line. Old habits.
>
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 5:07 PM BRUCE V
I’m mostly impressed you have an owner who cares.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 11/20/2020 4:19 PM Kyle.Montgomery via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
> Our standard for diesel fire pumps is to provide a double-wall fuel tank with
> leak detection, steel supply and return fuel li
This is why I hate calling one point on a flow test curve Static. It’s really
Background or Normal Usage or something similar.
The domestic flow only really matters when have a joint water supply connection
for the domestic and spk system.
Out at the main someone else is doing fire flow calc’
in a control area would not. The plans reviewer can’t issue a set of
sprinkler plans for a Flammable Liquids Room that only has the features of a
Control Area.
3. Sprinkler criteria. I’m always going to start from the IFC, and work out
from there.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 11/09/2020 1:36
FF’s have used them for years in the fol-da-tank series. Do the same people
make one for fixed tank?
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 10/22/2020 3:11 PM Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
> 2019 edition of NFPA 20 has references to the acceptable use of suction
>
I haven’t seen this. Are people putting a cage on the head?
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 10/15/2020 2:02 PM John Irwin via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
> I have done a lot of these in many jurisdictions and never protected the
> lockers. I have not been asked about it yet.
To expand on Mark’s comment, I tend to think start at the dust safety first,
then sprinklers. I wasn’t bidding jobs, but I certainly saw some expensive
solutions going the other way.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 10/15/2020 5:54 PM Mark.Phelps via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
>
Once it’s C of O is issued fire prevention isn’t needed for a new lease. New
fixtures don’t need a building permit. Some building officials require a new C
of O, some don’t.
It might never get an FP inspection. Depending on location would an engine
company inspection catch the the clothing sto
First thing I’d have asked one of my inspectors is racks or shelves.
Bruce Verhei
> On 10/09/2020 8:23 PM Mark Phillips via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
> Agree
> The amount of stored items and the variety
>
>
> Sent from my mobile device
> Please excu
of town out by the freeway interchange. See above.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 10/02/2020 4:07 PM Kyle.Montgomery via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
> OK, so it's the IBC that specifies when/where a hose connection of that type
> can be supplied by the sprinklers sy
All of a sudden I’m worried we’re adding a potential for seismic damage to
system, maybe several down a large building. It’s bad enough breaking 1” low
point drains.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 09/27/2020 7:50 PM Jeff Normand via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
> Ideally suppl
> and fire pumps: charge a whole lot of money for that red paint.
>
> -Kyle M
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sprinklerforum On
> Behalf Of BRUCE VERHEI via Sprinklerforum
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2020 12:24 PM
> To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
&g
ween the
manufacturer and you.
Mr. H. Hopper was first to point this out to me.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 09/25/2020 11:06 AM Kyle.Montgomery via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
> Is there currently a listing criteria for "fire protection air compressors"?
> I see UL
Is this crossing the line to engineering?
My radar would go up on this one.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 09/02/2020 2:25 PM tstone52--- via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
> Ben,
> Try FM data Sheets 7-29 & or 7-88
>
> Regards,
> G. Tim Stone
>
> G. Tim St
I used these codes in a seismic zone. I’m not familiar with any local
amendments. Are you asking about building code importance factor for seimic
design to be applied to tank design?
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 08/26/2020 12:05 PM Gipson, Russell via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
Further proof that you can obtain a license to practice architecture without
understanding what listing a product means. Wishfulness does not overcome
proven knowledge.
Best.
> On 08/25/2020 10:40 AM Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
> I wouldn't install a non-conforming co
heads, a
hydro isn’t code required.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 08/19/2020 1:58 PM Ron Greenman via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
> Craig brings up an interesting thought. Perhaps a requirement to do a hydro
> before a job of this magnitude is embarked upon would shift the onus fr
You might find the local fire marshal’s office has copy of test cert, and
original plans.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 08/06/2020 8:07 PM Mark Phillips via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
> Hello forum friends
> I would like to get some other professionals methods on how they
I’d always used 20 psi as minimum pump in;et pressure, unless taking supply
from a tank. Everywhere you go in AWWA you run into 20 psi as minimum pressure
in the water system.
Best.
Bruce Verhei
> On 08/06/2020 2:54 PM Kyle.Montgomery via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
>
> Th
The code change that allowed elimination of heads is a couple decades old.
We were confused about meaning. I’d like to say I can remember who I talked
with or have notes. I don’t. I know the re-emphasis by FM concerning both
heated and unheated combustible liquids being aerosolized by high press
For the record some of us like engineers.
Best.
Bruce
> On 06/17/2020 8:34 AM Dennis Wilson via Sprinklerforum
> wrote:
>
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> Behalf Of Bob Knight via Sprinklerforum
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ally think a
fire inspector just gets to make everything up? I always wondered.
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Bruce Verhei
> On June 3, 2020 at 2:15 PM Skyler Bilbo via Sprinklerforum
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> The structure needs to support a larger point load (with a very complex
> explanation, it probably does
ca 1m heads. Maybe with
today’s high k-factor hds. Old 1/2” hds at 16-18’ AFF? I’m skeptical fire
outcome would have been much different.
Still can hear Oly Fire Asst/Ch saying Temporarily Solidified, Highly Volatile
Petrochemicals when describing the foam mattress they’d burned.
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Bruce
sections of main
without intermediate hydrants prior to development just for testing purposes.
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Bruce Verhei
> On June 3, 2020 at 8:30 AM Mike B Morey via Sprinklerforum
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> For what it's worth, NFPA 291 is not a standard, it's a "recommended
box or a kids’ wait for the school bus lean-to.
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Bruce Verhei
> On May 30, 2020 at 12:19 PM Steve Leyton via Sprinklerforum
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discuss options with the architect and the
owner. But can’t they make those decisions. It’s not their project.
Yes, architects and owners do changes their minds sometimes. Until permit is
issued things can be in flux. Sometimes after that. See Porte cocheres.
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Bruce Verhei
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I can’t comment on the situation above the ceiling. Is this project, ‘bidder
design’, shorthand for ‘building and systems design is by committee that never
meets?
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Bruce Verhei
> On May 21, 2020 at 3:04 PM Ron Greenman via Sprinklerforum
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I also had some luck convincing facilities installing non-code required
generators to include valve room heat in circuits powered. Air compressor. FACU
as well of course. Tiny draw.
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> On Apr 14, 2020, at 13:13, Reed A. Roisum, SET via Sprinklerforum
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> Check out FMDS 8-29 Ref
I was always more concerned that the valve room was insulated, to slow cooling
during power outage.
Are you attempting to keep the pipe interior cold? This would seem to be result
of insulating it in the heated room, at least downstream of valves.
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Bruce Verhei
> On Apr 14, 2020,
spacing. So it is written, so
it shall be.
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Bruce Verhei
> On Apr 10, 2020, at 17:06, Steve Leyton via Sprinklerforum
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> I missed a period in there. Of course that should say 11.2.3.2.3.
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loop to nowhere yesterday. Tahoe battery goes dead if you don’t
run it a little.
Bruce Verhei
> On Apr 9, 2020, at 10:13, Shawn Foor via Sprinklerforum
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> There have been several project around my area that are scheduling different
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