Re: 2.0.2 in Vista - the browser crashes silently, leaving an unkillable process that prevents running Seamonkey.

2010-02-09 Thread P.N.
Hello Pat, I've got some problems with different software on Vista (not with SM, though), and cannot see complaints from other Vista users. So I guess, Your problems will more likely have sth. to do with Your Vista config than with SeaMonkey. But You'll have to give more information about

Re: Seamonkey Requesting user name and password for newsgroups

2010-02-09 Thread Ant
On 2/8/2010 8:36 PM PT, Cruz, Jaime typed: This just started yesterday. Every time I start Seamonkey it requests that I input the user name and password for access to the newsgroups. I haven't done anything to Seamonkey recently. Same thing happened here on two separate computers accessing

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-09 Thread Rick Merrill
Ubiquity wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: * A forum like this requires knowing how to use newsgroups. something you know nothing about Many people use the word forum to refer to website based groups. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list

Re: Users50

2010-02-09 Thread Rick Merrill
Chris Ilias wrote: On 10-02-08 8:16 PM, Rick Merrill wrote: Is Users50 still in use or can I delete it under SeaMonkey 2.0? You mean APPDATA\Mozilla\Users50\Default User\... ? That has not been used for ~10 years. Yes, you can remove it. :-) gracias!

Re: Unable to publish webpages via SeaMonkey

2010-02-09 Thread Rick Merrill
LWilson wrote: On Feb 8, 7:51 pm, LWilsontenni...@pacbell.net wrote: I'm having a terrible time trying to publish my changes via SeaMonkey to my webhosting company. I've never had this trouble before. Today, I uninstalled McAfee, just in case it was a firewall issue. I still have my Norton

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-09 Thread BJ
Chris Ilias wrote: This newsgroup is not an accurate representation of the SeaMonkey userbase. How do you know that? Seriously, unless you took a poll of the userbase with a question like Do you think posters on the SM NG represent your concerns, and the majority answered No, your statement

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-09 Thread Daniel
Rufus wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 10-02-08 9:07 PM, Rufus wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 10-02-07 4:10 PM, Rufus wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: You said your users are your best user experience people. Users communicate what is on their minds, not the workarounds they have gotten used to.

Re: Email - Empty Trash deletes Trash icon

2010-02-09 Thread Daniel
Geoff Walker wrote: I'm running SM 2.0.2 and just in the last few days I have been unable to delete messages from the trash in the normal manner. Closing and re-opening SM then allows me to delete messages from the inbox to the trash, up to the next occasion that I empty the trash, at which

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-09 Thread Philip Chee
On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:10:25 -0700, BJ wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: This newsgroup is not an accurate representation of the SeaMonkey userbase. How do you know that? The sad fact is that nowadays usenet and nntp newsgroups in general are now pretty much a minority interest. Most internet users

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-09 Thread Robert Kaiser
Philip Chee wrote: On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:10:25 -0700, BJ wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: This newsgroup is not an accurate representation of the SeaMonkey userbase. How do you know that? The sad fact is that nowadays usenet and nntp newsgroups in general are now pretty much a minority interest.

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-09 Thread BJ
Philip Chee wrote: On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:10:25 -0700, BJ wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: This newsgroup is not an accurate representation of the SeaMonkey userbase. How do you know that? The sad fact is that nowadays usenet and nntp newsgroups in general are now pretty much a minority interest.

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-09 Thread Phillip Jones
Philip Chee wrote: On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:10:25 -0700, BJ wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: This newsgroup is not an accurate representation of the SeaMonkey userbase. How do you know that? The sad fact is that nowadays usenet and nntp newsgroups in general are now pretty much a minority interest.

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-09 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:10:25 -0700, BJ wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: This newsgroup is not an accurate representation of the SeaMonkey userbase. How do you know that? The sad fact is that nowadays usenet and nntp newsgroups in general are now pretty

Re: 2.0.2 in Vista - the browser crashes silently, leaving an unkillable process that prevents running Seamonkey.

2010-02-09 Thread Pat Welch
P.N. wrote: Hello Pat, I've got some problems with different software on Vista (not with SM, though), and cannot see complaints from other Vista users. So I guess, Your problems will more likely have sth. to do with Your Vista config than with SeaMonkey. But You'll have to give more information

Re: DSL withSympatico in Canada

2010-02-09 Thread S. Beaulieu
Smiles a écrit : I have 9 clients using this ISP and can not setup incoming mail. Using XP os I always get a timeout error but do not know if it is an authentication error. As normal this is an unsupported mail client. Bell doesn't support *anything* since they sold their soul to M$...

Re: Page crash

2010-02-09 Thread NoOp
On 02/08/2010 06:25 PM, Kent Briggs wrote: NoOp wrote: Definitely poorly coded in SeaMonkey/Firefox? Uh, yeah. 270 seconds of lockup vs 7 seconds. Even that piece of crap IE doesn't do that.

Re: Page crash

2010-02-09 Thread Kent Briggs
I was thinking that those two issues, being html5 realated (p element) could be an issue by a client that is checking the code. Perhap IE is ignoring it... I suspect it's script related because I noticed I can click the Stop button a few seconds after entering the URL and it gets the whole

Re: Unable to publish webpages via SeaMonkey

2010-02-09 Thread Leonidas Jones
Rick Merrill wrote: LWilson wrote: On Feb 8, 7:51 pm, LWilsontenni...@pacbell.net wrote: I'm having a terrible time trying to publish my changes via SeaMonkey to my webhosting company. I've never had this trouble before. Today, I uninstalled McAfee, just in case it was a firewall issue. I

Re: Page crash

2010-02-09 Thread NoOp
On 02/09/2010 09:11 AM, Kent Briggs wrote: I was thinking that those two issues, being html5 realated (p element) could be an issue by a client that is checking the code. Perhap IE is ignoring it... I suspect it's script related because I noticed I can click the Stop button a few seconds

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-09 Thread Chris Ilias
On 10-02-09 5:10 AM, BJ wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: This newsgroup is not an accurate representation of the SeaMonkey userbase. How do you know that? Seriously, unless you took a poll of the userbase with a question like Do you think posters on the SM NG represent your concerns, and the

email failure

2010-02-09 Thread n...@home
I have SM 2.0.2 on two computers, one with windowsxp and one with vista. Until today, I was receiving email on the same account with whichever pc I was using. Today, however, on the vista pc, when I went to read my email, there were no new mails, and when I demanded that it download mails,

Re: EVANG: Hostway

2010-02-09 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: And Tidy Extension (HTML Validator) both in SM and FF show 29 error and 2 warnings just on the opening page. Thanks, I already told them the W3C validator returns 8

Re: can't install search plugins on SM2?

2010-02-09 Thread Tom S.
Margo Guda wrote: Hi, I'm trying to install some of the search plugins listed on mozilla add ons as compatible with SM 2. I'm using 2.02 now. When I try to install the search plugin, such as the rapidshare file finder, a message pops up saying Sorry you need a mozilla capable browser such as

Mac theme (Re: Goodbye Seamonkey)

2010-02-09 Thread Stefan
Rufus skriver: I was, and surprisingly so...I immediately liked the tabs, and everything was where I would have expected it to be on a Mac. It also didn't seem like I lost any functionality for what I do with TB like I did with SM 2.x.x, and that was also of note. It's funny that you mention

news problem

2010-02-09 Thread Rick Merrill
The manager of eternal-september news reports seeing SeaMonkey trying to post before authenticated. == OK, here' what happened: Feb 9 09:56:42 188.40.43.213 nnrpd[11306]: 24.63.xx.yy (24.63.xx.yy) connect Feb 9 09:56:42 188.40.43.213 nnrpd[11306]: 24.63.xx.yy post failed You are

Re: 2.0.2 in Vista - the browser crashes silently, leaving an unkillable process that prevents running Seamonkey.

2010-02-09 Thread Ray_Net
Rick Merrill wrote: Pat Welch wrote: Hi. This has gotten to the point I'm going to have to abandon SM 2.x soon. I never saw this in any 1.x version. I'm on 32-bit Windows Vista SP2 running on an HP notebook with the AMD Turion dual-core chip, 3 MB RAM. After about 8 hours of use, suddenly

Re: Mac theme (Re: Goodbye Seamonkey)

2010-02-09 Thread Phillip Jones
Stefan wrote: Rufus skriver: I was, and surprisingly so...I immediately liked the tabs, and everything was where I would have expected it to be on a Mac. It also didn't seem like I lost any functionality for what I do with TB like I did with SM 2.x.x, and that was also of note. It's funny

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-09 Thread Benoit Renard
Chris Ilias wrote: Personally, I've never used the Forms Manager...but the only reason I haven't that I can determine now that I'm reading so much displeasure about it's removal is that I couldn't determine if information it stores is encrypted or not. If it was and a dialog box had told me

Address completion sources [Was: Deleting Addresses from Mailing List]

2010-02-09 Thread Jens Hatlak
Rick Merrill wrote: When I compose a new message (email not usenet) and enter the to field with julie it pops up addresses including Julie Steve comcast.net which is none of my address books and which (as you have probably noticed) is illegal as an address. WHERE is this? (so I can delete

Re: Email - Empty Trash deletes Trash icon

2010-02-09 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 9/2/2010 05:41, Geoff Walker told the world: I'm running SM 2.0.2 and just in the last few days I have been unable to delete messages from the trash in the normal manner. Closing and re-opening SM then allows me to delete messages from the inbox to the trash, up to

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-09 Thread Phillip Jones
Benoit Renard wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: Personally, I've never used the Forms Manager...but the only reason I haven't that I can determine now that I'm reading so much displeasure about it's removal is that I couldn't determine if information it stores is encrypted or not. If it was and a

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-09 Thread Rufus
Chris Ilias wrote: On 10-02-09 12:57 AM, Rufus wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: SO unless the knowledge to use a newsgroup is common knowledge, the users here are not the best user experience people. This newsgroup is not an accurate representation of the SeaMonkey userbase. Then what's it here

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-09 Thread Rufus
Rick Merrill wrote: Ubiquity wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: * A forum like this requires knowing how to use newsgroups. something you know nothing about Many people use the word forum to refer to website based groups. I use forum to refer to any manner though which discussion can take

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-09 Thread Rufus
Daniel wrote: Rufus wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 10-02-08 9:07 PM, Rufus wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 10-02-07 4:10 PM, Rufus wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: You said your users are your best user experience people. Users communicate what is on their minds, not the workarounds they have gotten

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-09 Thread Rufus
Philip Chee wrote: On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:10:25 -0700, BJ wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: This newsgroup is not an accurate representation of the SeaMonkey userbase. How do you know that? The sad fact is that nowadays usenet and nntp newsgroups in general are now pretty much a minority interest.

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-09 Thread Rufus
BJ wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:10:25 -0700, BJ wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: This newsgroup is not an accurate representation of the SeaMonkey userbase. How do you know that? The sad fact is that nowadays usenet and nntp newsgroups in general are now pretty much a

NNTP authentication problem (was: news problem)

2010-02-09 Thread Philip Chee
Forwarding to the developer newsgroups. On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:06:46 -0500, Rick Merrill wrote: The manager of eternal-september news reports seeing SeaMonkey trying to post before authenticated. == OK, here' what happened: Feb 9 09:56:42 188.40.43.213 nnrpd[11306]:

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-09 Thread Rufus
Chris Ilias wrote: On 10-02-09 5:10 AM, BJ wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: This newsgroup is not an accurate representation of the SeaMonkey userbase. How do you know that? Seriously, unless you took a poll of the userbase with a question like Do you think posters on the SM NG represent your

Re: Mac theme (Re: Goodbye Seamonkey)

2010-02-09 Thread NoOp
On 02/09/2010 01:46 PM, Stefan wrote: ... Oh, right: Please do not hijack this new thread with non-mac stuff ;-) /Stefan Oh BTW 'Mac theme (Re: Goodbye Seamonkey' is *not* a new thread... you've simply added to the existing thread by changing the subject. Why don't you take a clue and

Re: Mac theme (Re: Goodbye Seamonkey)

2010-02-09 Thread Rufus
Stefan wrote: Rufus skriver: I was, and surprisingly so...I immediately liked the tabs, and everything was where I would have expected it to be on a Mac. It also didn't seem like I lost any functionality for what I do with TB like I did with SM 2.x.x, and that was also of note. It's funny

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-09 Thread Rufus
Phillip Jones wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: Personally, I've never used the Forms Manager...but the only reason I haven't that I can determine now that I'm reading so much displeasure about it's removal is that I couldn't determine if information it stores is encrypted or

Re: Deleting Addresses from Mailing List

2010-02-09 Thread Sqwertz
On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:25:25 +0100, Jens Hatlak wrote: Sqwertz wrote: Seamonkey 2.0.2, I have an entry in my address book that points to 8 or 9 addresses. I can add names/addresses, but I can't delete or edit anything. At least not that I can see. How do you delete names from the list?

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-09 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)
On 2/8/2010 5:32 AM, Philip Chee wrote: On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 22:50:34 -0500, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 2/6/2010 11:25 PM, Philip Chee wrote: On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:56:53 +0100, Robert Kaiser wrote: Good to hear! The quickstart stuff won't come back in 2.0.x though, unless someone comes

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-09 Thread Chris Ilias
On 10-02-09 9:29 PM, Rufus wrote: My argument is that the collective opinions of any userbase in any discussion forum is the best dataset for user experience, and that to ignore it - in any venue - is folly in the long run. No matter what your hired gun may say. Then we're going in circles.