Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update
u...@domain.invalid wrote: I have a large mail map of 3.9GB whereof the Inbox is 2.3GB, located on a FAT32 file system. The problem is that the index file no longer does update automatic. Trying to view new incoming messages, shows the text content of some legacy old messages. Selecting Inbox > Properties > Rebuild index does fix the index problem temporary, until new messages are received. Suggestions how to fix this index problem? Rgds, Terje as has been mentioned, the inbox is too big, so you have to make them smaller. First, locate where this mail account is. Click on Edit, Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings, select the account, and under Server Settings, on the bottom right, you will see something called Local Directory. This is the location of that mail account. Take note of it. Now, close SM. Now, use your file manager, and locate the inbox for that account. Copy that file somewhere safe, and delete the inbox.msf file. Now, open the inbox file in any text based editor. If you notice, you will see at the beginning of every new message, it will begin with From, a dash, the day of the week, Month, numbered date, time, and year. You should see something like this: From - Sat Mar 14 21:23:30 2009 What you want to do is copy everything between that and the next one. You might want to copy a whole bunch, as your inbox contains a ton of messages. Now, paste that into a blank page on your texted based editor. Save the file to inbox-1 with no extension, and save it as a text formating file, and save it to the same location as the current inbox. Now, repeat the process until your all done. You should have several inbox-* files. Once that is done, delete the main inbox. Reopen SM, and everything should be working again. You will get a new inbox, and several inbox-*. Click on each one and rebuild the index files. Is it working now? -- *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email help Emails to me may become public Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned. Peter Potamus & His Magic Flying Balloon: http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3 http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update
ntekn...@monet.no wrote: snip So I did, installed Tunderbird/Lightning, deleted *.msf from my Mail box and rebuild the summary/index file. And guess what happened; the same error still occured. Incoming new mail content displayed blanc before manual rebuilding the index file. te...@linux-gu9l:/windows/F/usr/terje/Mail> du -sm . 3932. te...@linux-gu9l:/windows/F/usr/terje/Mail> du -sm Inbox Sent 2198Inbox 1509Sent If Thunderbird really has a 4GB Inbox limit, this looks to be a bug? Terje I did not follow this thread closely but, FWIW, although always I keep my Inbox empty - which makes using new mails easier, but this is just me - I did occasionally found the content of some emails to be blank. After first thinking it was the sender's mistake, I found that moving those "blanks" to a different folder of my IN mail structure sometimes solved the problem, or that shutting down SM and opening them in TB did the trick. I have no explanation for this, it seems to happen, very seldom, randomly. My opinion is, it has nothing to do with the size of the Inbox (although I strongly agree with what others said about keeping it of a reasonable size, if only to minimize risks) or of the email, but with the way the email is displayed. There are probably multiple possible causes to this and I am there clearly out of my depth. Regards -- John Doue ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update
ntekn...@monet.no wrote: > Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: >> Leonidas Jones wrote: >>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: > I wrote an article concerning this, referring to SeaMonkey's ancestor, > Netscape 7. I think it applies here as well: > > http://community.netscape.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=ws-nscpbrowser&tid=8116 > > Basically, do not use Inbox as a long term repository for stored email. > If you need to keep email, store it in archive folders. I would have to disagree with you on that Lee. That might have been a problem in the old Netscape days, but its not now. I've had stuff in my inbox for years, and never had a problem. Then again, my inbox isn't over 2 gigs big either. But I do have other folders that are about that big and still don't have problems. >>> But Grant, if they are in other folders, they are not in Inbox, are >>> they? I don't think it matters how long items have been there, its >>> the size and the constant access that does it. >> but I'm saying I have many messages within the inbox that have been >> there for years, and I've never experienced any problems. >> >>> Since the OP found that the problem did not occur with a clean Inbox, >>> but reoccurred with the old Inbox restored, is that not instructive? >> I think the OPs problem is he reached the size limit for an SM folder >> which is 2 gigs!: http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/mailnewsfaq/SizeLimit >> >> While in TB its 4 gigs: >> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Limits_%28Thunderbird%29#Folders_and_messages >> >> Talk about discrimination! ;-) >> > > Yes. maybe Thunderbird's/Lightning 4GB capability is the way to continue > the SM Maibox directly ? > Firefox is also the default browser installation with every Linux > distro, and looks to have more and easier addons and plugins > installations. Some suggenstions/thoughts about +/- for the FF/TB/L > combination (integration) compared to the SM suite? > > Another candidate is Evolution which is the default installation on > several Linux distributions, though it doesn't seem to be compatible > with the mailbox format directly. And I don't know its capacity yet. > So I did, installed Tunderbird/Lightning, deleted *.msf from my Mail box and rebuild the summary/index file. And guess what happened; the same error still occured. Incoming new mail content displayed blanc before manual rebuilding the index file. te...@linux-gu9l:/windows/F/usr/terje/Mail> du -sm . 3932. te...@linux-gu9l:/windows/F/usr/terje/Mail> du -sm Inbox Sent 2198Inbox 1509Sent If Thunderbird really has a 4GB Inbox limit, this looks to be a bug? Terje ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update
Keith Whaley wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: terje wrote: ... Big snip. .. and introducing an OFF TOPIC thread drift question Basically, do not use Inbox as a long term repository for stored email. If you need to keep email, store it in archive folders. Lee I would have to disagree with you on that Lee. That might have been a problem in the old Netscape days, but its not now. I've had stuff in my inbox for years, and never had a problem. Then again, my inbox isn't over 2 gigs big either. But I do have other folders that are about that big and still don't have problems. To: Terje and Peter Are there any reasons why you are maintaining such a large Inbox, with such a large collection of, what must be, an arbitrary mixture of messages, rather than as Lee and common sense logic would advise, classifying the messages by some criterion and moving them into separate folders. A simple criterion might be by date! : Old-inbox-1998, Old-inbox-1999, ... etc. what Lee has pointed out is old stuff. Inboxes has come a long way since then. Having messages in your inbox does not cause any harm. The only thing one must keep an eye on is compacting and size limit. Otherwise, there is no other harm. I am obviously not being clear here. I never intended to say that keeping mail for a long time in the Inbox was a problem. Its the volume of the mail that degrades performance. I never allow mail to build up like that in my Inboxes. The largest POP inbox I have is about 80 MB, mostly html newsletters and things like that. Last year my wife was having some serious problems with mail performance, and I discovered that her inbox had built up over 2 GB. I did the OldInbox thing and all was well. Again though, its not the age of the mail, its the size of the file. I usually let my folders load up to something between 1000-1200 messages and move them into a new folder named Old Inbox II or Old Inbox III, etc. I checked the folder sizes the other day, and the largest moved folder I have only managed to come up to 621 Mb. That was an original Inbox, allowed to get to 2290 messages before I decided to move it! So, unless most of your In or Out messages contain unusually heavy content, consistently, you can see how far off that folder size limitation you are! My current Inbox contains only 518, and goes back to December of '08. Also, I DO move 'incoming' to one of my other IN folders, as I have 14 of 'em! A thought comes up...most of those are kept only for their old address content, of folks I no longer actively contact, but might want to sometime. Uh huh...on the other hand, they haven't contacted ME either, so...why am I saving them? H. I may have some empty folders available soon! :-D keith whaley When I referred to not using the Inbox as a long term repository, my intent was to suggest the amount of mail should be kept down. You can have mail dating back 5 years if you want to. Why someone would want to is another issue, but we all have our unique ways of doing things. Lee Why not make a custom address book to hold those addresses, then you can get rid of the mail itself? Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Mr. Potamus are you intentionally avoiding answering the question, as posed? Why! keep such a large monolithic Inbox? the same reason why you create folders -- *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email help Emails to me may become public Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned. Peter Potamus & His Magic Flying Balloon: http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3 http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update
Leonidas Jones wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: terje wrote: ... Big snip. .. and introducing an OFF TOPIC thread drift question Basically, do not use Inbox as a long term repository for stored email. If you need to keep email, store it in archive folders. Lee I would have to disagree with you on that Lee. That might have been a problem in the old Netscape days, but its not now. I've had stuff in my inbox for years, and never had a problem. Then again, my inbox isn't over 2 gigs big either. But I do have other folders that are about that big and still don't have problems. To: Terje and Peter Are there any reasons why you are maintaining such a large Inbox, with such a large collection of, what must be, an arbitrary mixture of messages, rather than as Lee and common sense logic would advise, classifying the messages by some criterion and moving them into separate folders. A simple criterion might be by date! : Old-inbox-1998, Old-inbox-1999, ... etc. what Lee has pointed out is old stuff. Inboxes has come a long way since then. Having messages in your inbox does not cause any harm. The only thing one must keep an eye on is compacting and size limit. Otherwise, there is no other harm. I am obviously not being clear here. I never intended to say that keeping mail for a long time in the Inbox was a problem. Its the volume of the mail that degrades performance. I never allow mail to build up like that in my Inboxes. The largest POP inbox I have is about 80 MB, mostly html newsletters and things like that. Last year my wife was having some serious problems with mail performance, and I discovered that her inbox had built up over 2 GB. I did the OldInbox thing and all was well. Again though, its not the age of the mail, its the size of the file. I usually let my folders load up to something between 1000-1200 messages and move them into a new folder named Old Inbox II or Old Inbox III, etc. I checked the folder sizes the other day, and the largest moved folder I have only managed to come up to 621 Mb. That was an original Inbox, allowed to get to 2290 messages before I decided to move it! So, unless most of your In or Out messages contain unusually heavy content, consistently, you can see how far off that folder size limitation you are! My current Inbox contains only 518, and goes back to December of '08. Also, I DO move 'incoming' to one of my other IN folders, as I have 14 of 'em! A thought comes up...most of those are kept only for their old address content, of folks I no longer actively contact, but might want to sometime. Uh huh...on the other hand, they haven't contacted ME either, so...why am I saving them? H. I may have some empty folders available soon! :-D keith whaley When I referred to not using the Inbox as a long term repository, my intent was to suggest the amount of mail should be kept down. You can have mail dating back 5 years if you want to. Why someone would want to is another issue, but we all have our unique ways of doing things. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: terje wrote: ... Big snip. .. and introducing an OFF TOPIC thread drift question Basically, do not use Inbox as a long term repository for stored email. If you need to keep email, store it in archive folders. Lee I would have to disagree with you on that Lee. That might have been a problem in the old Netscape days, but its not now. I've had stuff in my inbox for years, and never had a problem. Then again, my inbox isn't over 2 gigs big either. But I do have other folders that are about that big and still don't have problems. To: Terje and Peter Are there any reasons why you are maintaining such a large Inbox, with such a large collection of, what must be, an arbitrary mixture of messages, rather than as Lee and common sense logic would advise, classifying the messages by some criterion and moving them into separate folders. A simple criterion might be by date! : Old-inbox-1998, Old-inbox-1999, ... etc. what Lee has pointed out is old stuff. Inboxes has come a long way since then. Having messages in your inbox does not cause any harm. The only thing one must keep an eye on is compacting and size limit. Otherwise, there is no other harm. Mr. Potamus are you intentionally avoiding answering the question, as posed? Why! keep such a large monolithic Inbox? Oh, and there is this niggling detail of THE SIZE LIMIT, which you were the first to recognize. :-) as the dog that was biting Terjes' ... -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: > Leonidas Jones wrote: >> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: >>> Leonidas Jones wrote: I wrote an article concerning this, referring to SeaMonkey's ancestor, Netscape 7. I think it applies here as well: http://community.netscape.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=ws-nscpbrowser&tid=8116 Basically, do not use Inbox as a long term repository for stored email. If you need to keep email, store it in archive folders. >>> >>> I would have to disagree with you on that Lee. That might have been a >>> problem in the old Netscape days, but its not now. I've had stuff in my >>> inbox for years, and never had a problem. Then again, my inbox isn't >>> over 2 gigs big either. But I do have other folders that are about that >>> big and still don't have problems. >>> >> But Grant, if they are in other folders, they are not in Inbox, are >> they? I don't think it matters how long items have been there, its >> the size and the constant access that does it. > > but I'm saying I have many messages within the inbox that have been > there for years, and I've never experienced any problems. > >> Since the OP found that the problem did not occur with a clean Inbox, >> but reoccurred with the old Inbox restored, is that not instructive? > > I think the OPs problem is he reached the size limit for an SM folder > which is 2 gigs!: http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/mailnewsfaq/SizeLimit > > While in TB its 4 gigs: > http://kb.mozillazine.org/Limits_%28Thunderbird%29#Folders_and_messages > > Talk about discrimination! ;-) > Yes. maybe Thunderbird's/Lightning 4GB capability is the way to continue the SM Maibox directly ? Firefox is also the default browser installation with every Linux distro, and looks to have more and easier addons and plugins installations. Some suggenstions/thoughts about +/- for the FF/TB/L combination (integration) compared to the SM suite? Another candidate is Evolution which is the default installation on several Linux distributions, though it doesn't seem to be compatible with the mailbox format directly. And I don't know its capacity yet. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: terje wrote: ... Big snip. .. and introducing an OFF TOPIC thread drift question Basically, do not use Inbox as a long term repository for stored email. If you need to keep email, store it in archive folders. Lee I would have to disagree with you on that Lee. That might have been a problem in the old Netscape days, but its not now. I've had stuff in my inbox for years, and never had a problem. Then again, my inbox isn't over 2 gigs big either. But I do have other folders that are about that big and still don't have problems. To: Terje and Peter Are there any reasons why you are maintaining such a large Inbox, with such a large collection of, what must be, an arbitrary mixture of messages, rather than as Lee and common sense logic would advise, classifying the messages by some criterion and moving them into separate folders. A simple criterion might be by date! : Old-inbox-1998, Old-inbox-1999, ... etc. what Lee has pointed out is old stuff. Inboxes has come a long way since then. Having messages in your inbox does not cause any harm. The only thing one must keep an eye on is compacting and size limit. Otherwise, there is no other harm. I am obviously not being clear here. I never intended to say that keeping mail for a long time in the Inbox was a problem. Its the volume of the mail that degrades performance. I never allow mail to build up like that in my Inboxes. The largest POP inbox I have is about 80 MB, mostly html newsletters and things like that. Last year my wife was having some serious problems with mail performance, and I discovered that her inbox had built up over 2 GB. I did the OldInbox thing and all was well. Again though, its not the age of the mail, its the size of the file. When I referred to not using the Inbox as a long term repository, my intet was to suggest the amount of mail should be kept down. You can have mail dating back 5 years if you want to. Why someone would want to is another issue, but we all have our unique ways of doing things. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: > Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: >> Leonidas Jones wrote: >>> terje wrote: > ... Big snip. .. > and introducing an OFF TOPIC thread drift question >>> >>> Basically, do not use Inbox as a long term repository for stored email. >>> If you need to keep email, store it in archive folders. >>> >>> Lee >> >> I would have to disagree with you on that Lee. That might have been a >> problem in the old Netscape days, but its not now. I've had stuff in >> my inbox for years, and never had a problem. Then again, my inbox >> isn't over 2 gigs big either. But I do have other folders that are >> about that big and still don't have problems. >> > To: Terje and Peter > Are there any reasons why you are maintaining such a large Inbox, > with such a large collection of, what must be, an arbitrary mixture > of messages, rather than as Lee and common sense logic would advise, > classifying the messages by some criterion and moving them into > separate folders. > A simple criterion might be by date! : Old-inbox-1998, Old-inbox-1999, > ... etc. Both at home and on work I build up the Inbox (and Sent) as a mail correspondense archieve and knowledge database. That is keep messages and correspondence that may be of my future interest. Of course other things are deleted and cleaned up. Attachments (especially the large ones) are archieved in other project archieves or other places outside the Inbox. Larger projects may go over several years. Finding interesting web pages searhing the web (articles etc) it's easy to right click and Send Page (link) to myself. Such use the mail system as a long term bookmark archieve. And I also use the mail as an appointment reminder for myself this way. The main reason is the mail system is easy to filter and search through. By the end of the month, it's easy to find what has happened on each project, or search for an old message several years back. Now it looks like I have to split the Inbox in subfolders or some archieve, but I haven't seen if the filter and search function works for more than one folder a time. The Novell GroupWise mail server we now use on job, has a very fast full text index search and also offer webaccess client. Beside this we are planning to use team...@conferencsing. But SM still can be used as an IMAP mail client frontend beside and has still some benefits. Terje ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: terje wrote: ... Big snip. .. and introducing an OFF TOPIC thread drift question Basically, do not use Inbox as a long term repository for stored email. If you need to keep email, store it in archive folders. Lee I would have to disagree with you on that Lee. That might have been a problem in the old Netscape days, but its not now. I've had stuff in my inbox for years, and never had a problem. Then again, my inbox isn't over 2 gigs big either. But I do have other folders that are about that big and still don't have problems. To: Terje and Peter Are there any reasons why you are maintaining such a large Inbox, with such a large collection of, what must be, an arbitrary mixture of messages, rather than as Lee and common sense logic would advise, classifying the messages by some criterion and moving them into separate folders. A simple criterion might be by date! : Old-inbox-1998, Old-inbox-1999, ... etc. what Lee has pointed out is old stuff. Inboxes has come a long way since then. Having messages in your inbox does not cause any harm. The only thing one must keep an eye on is compacting and size limit. Otherwise, there is no other harm. -- *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email help Emails to me may become public Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned. Peter Potamus & His Magic Flying Balloon: http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3 http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: terje wrote: ... Big snip. .. and introducing an OFF TOPIC thread drift question Basically, do not use Inbox as a long term repository for stored email. If you need to keep email, store it in archive folders. Lee I would have to disagree with you on that Lee. That might have been a problem in the old Netscape days, but its not now. I've had stuff in my inbox for years, and never had a problem. Then again, my inbox isn't over 2 gigs big either. But I do have other folders that are about that big and still don't have problems. To: Terje and Peter Are there any reasons why you are maintaining such a large Inbox, with such a large collection of, what must be, an arbitrary mixture of messages, rather than as Lee and common sense logic would advise, classifying the messages by some criterion and moving them into separate folders. A simple criterion might be by date! : Old-inbox-1998, Old-inbox-1999, ... etc. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update
keith_w wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: I wrote an article concerning this, referring to SeaMonkey's ancestor, Netscape 7. I think it applies here as well: http://community.netscape.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=ws-nscpbrowser&tid=8116 Basically, do not use Inbox as a long term repository for stored email. If you need to keep email, store it in archive folders. I would have to disagree with you on that Lee. That might have been a problem in the old Netscape days, but its not now. I've had stuff in my inbox for years, and never had a problem. Then again, my inbox isn't over 2 gigs big either. But I do have other folders that are about that big and still don't have problems. But Grant, if they are in other folders, they are not in Inbox, are they? I don't think it matters how long items have been there, its the size and the constant access that does it. but I'm saying I have many messages within the inbox that have been there for years, and I've never experienced any problems. Since the OP found that the problem did not occur with a clean Inbox, but reoccurred with the old Inbox restored, is that not instructive? I think the OPs problem is he reached the size limit for an SM folder which is 2 gigs!: http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/mailnewsfaq/SizeLimit While in TB its 4 gigs: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Limits_%28Thunderbird%29#Folders_and_messages Talk about discrimination! ;-) I make a new folder for storage of incoming messages when the Inbox reaches about 1000 messages. I attempted to find out how big that storage folder (Old Inbox) is, but it appears SeaMonkey has no "Get Info" as the Finder does! How can I find that? I don't know where SM data is kept... keith whaley The menu Edit>Edit_Preferences>Mail&Newsgroup_Account_Settings |_ Server setting | Local Directory (path) |_ Local Folders | Local Directory (path) should tell the file path to the local Mail directoy (Inbox, Sent etc below Mail). Normally I use a custom file path for the Mail boxes. Terje ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: I wrote an article concerning this, referring to SeaMonkey's ancestor, Netscape 7. I think it applies here as well: http://community.netscape.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=ws-nscpbrowser&tid=8116 Basically, do not use Inbox as a long term repository for stored email. If you need to keep email, store it in archive folders. I would have to disagree with you on that Lee. That might have been a problem in the old Netscape days, but its not now. I've had stuff in my inbox for years, and never had a problem. Then again, my inbox isn't over 2 gigs big either. But I do have other folders that are about that big and still don't have problems. But Grant, if they are in other folders, they are not in Inbox, are they? I don't think it matters how long items have been there, its the size and the constant access that does it. but I'm saying I have many messages within the inbox that have been there for years, and I've never experienced any problems. Since the OP found that the problem did not occur with a clean Inbox, but reoccurred with the old Inbox restored, is that not instructive? I think the OPs problem is he reached the size limit for an SM folder which is 2 gigs!: http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/mailnewsfaq/SizeLimit While in TB its 4 gigs: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Limits_%28Thunderbird%29#Folders_and_messages Talk about discrimination! ;-) I make a new folder for storage of incoming messages when the Inbox reaches about 1000 messages. I attempted to find out how big that storage folder (Old Inbox) is, but it appears SeaMonkey has no "Get Info" as the Finder does! How can I find that? I don't know where SM data is kept... keith whaley ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update
Daniel wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: terje wrote: terje wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: I have a large mail map of 3.9GB whereof the Inbox is 2.3GB, located on a FAT32 file system. The problem is that the index file no longer does update automatic. Trying to view new incoming messages, shows the text content of some legacy old messages. Selecting Inbox> Properties> Rebuild index does fix the index problem temporary, until new messages are received. Suggestions how to fix this index problem? Rgds, Terje close the program and delete the *.msf file for that account. Restart SM, then click on that folder, it should rebuild now. You might want to move some of messages out of that folder and separate that into some smaller folders. I've tried that once before, but gave it a try again. As this is a common SM mail box I use to access from dual boot Linux and Windows systems and used over the generation with Netscape, Mozilla and now SM email clients, I removed every *.msf file found on the system. And yes, the index files rebuilds after SM startup. But when I send myself a new test mail and receive it in the Inbox, the body content of this message becomes blanc, before I rebuild the index file manually as first mentioned. I have no idea why not the index file updates itself automatically, or may this be another issue? Terje You do have a very large inbox file. Try this, as an experiment. Close SeaMonkey, navigate to the profile and delete the Inbox.msf file again. Rename Inbox to OldInbox. Open up SeaMonkey. Do you have the same problem downloading new mail? Lee I've tried that experiment; created a new Inbox and didn't encounter the index problem downloading new mail. I renamed OldInbox back again to Inbox, and the problem arrieved again. My Inbox contains about 13800 mails, the oldest messages since 1999. I don't know if this has exceeded some limit for what the SM indexing can handle? I can clarify myselfe that this ought not be a limit. On my office, my SM Inbox currently contains 15400 messages, with the oldes ones from 1998. (However, this is IMAP connected to our Novell GroupWise server.) Terje I can't remember, but either win98 and older you can have up to 2 gigs worth of messages, and win2000 and later you can have 5 gigs. Or, its FAT32 can only have 2 gigs and NTFS is 5 gigs. I am currently trying to download a new version of Mandriva Linux, and, in their email, they say:- Quote - Make sure you have enough space on your partition to store all the data: especially if you are downloading the DVD ISOs, these may be larger than 4 GB. Note that FAT filesystems cannot handle a file larger than 2 GB (4 GB for FAT32). Mandriva Linux, MacOS X default filesystems are fine, as Microsoft NTFS. End Quote Daniel Yes, I remember once I downloaded an openSUSE dvd-iso on FAT32 and it stopped at 4GB a little to short to finish successful. It's therefore large distros now usually are splitted in one OSS-DVD iso and one addon non-OSS-DVD iso. (I think 2GB FAT is the usual limit on USB and SDHC memory cards) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: I wrote an article concerning this, referring to SeaMonkey's ancestor, Netscape 7. I think it applies here as well: http://community.netscape.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=ws-nscpbrowser&tid=8116 Basically, do not use Inbox as a long term repository for stored email. If you need to keep email, store it in archive folders. I would have to disagree with you on that Lee. That might have been a problem in the old Netscape days, but its not now. I've had stuff in my inbox for years, and never had a problem. Then again, my inbox isn't over 2 gigs big either. But I do have other folders that are about that big and still don't have problems. But Grant, if they are in other folders, they are not in Inbox, are they? I don't think it matters how long items have been there, its the size and the constant access that does it. but I'm saying I have many messages within the inbox that have been there for years, and I've never experienced any problems. I understand that. What I am saying is that the length of time the mail has been in the Inbox is not the issue, its the size of the file. Lee Since the OP found that the problem did not occur with a clean Inbox, but reoccurred with the old Inbox restored, is that not instructive? I think the OPs problem is he reached the size limit for an SM folder which is 2 gigs!: http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/mailnewsfaq/SizeLimit While in TB its 4 gigs: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Limits_%28Thunderbird%29#Folders_and_messages Talk about discrimination! ;-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: terje wrote: terje wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: I have a large mail map of 3.9GB whereof the Inbox is 2.3GB, located on a FAT32 file system. The problem is that the index file no longer does update automatic. Trying to view new incoming messages, shows the text content of some legacy old messages. Selecting Inbox> Properties> Rebuild index does fix the index problem temporary, until new messages are received. Suggestions how to fix this index problem? Rgds, Terje close the program and delete the *.msf file for that account. Restart SM, then click on that folder, it should rebuild now. You might want to move some of messages out of that folder and separate that into some smaller folders. I've tried that once before, but gave it a try again. As this is a common SM mail box I use to access from dual boot Linux and Windows systems and used over the generation with Netscape, Mozilla and now SM email clients, I removed every *.msf file found on the system. And yes, the index files rebuilds after SM startup. But when I send myself a new test mail and receive it in the Inbox, the body content of this message becomes blanc, before I rebuild the index file manually as first mentioned. I have no idea why not the index file updates itself automatically, or may this be another issue? Terje You do have a very large inbox file. Try this, as an experiment. Close SeaMonkey, navigate to the profile and delete the Inbox.msf file again. Rename Inbox to OldInbox. Open up SeaMonkey. Do you have the same problem downloading new mail? Lee I've tried that experiment; created a new Inbox and didn't encounter the index problem downloading new mail. I renamed OldInbox back again to Inbox, and the problem arrieved again. My Inbox contains about 13800 mails, the oldest messages since 1999. I don't know if this has exceeded some limit for what the SM indexing can handle? I can clarify myselfe that this ought not be a limit. On my office, my SM Inbox currently contains 15400 messages, with the oldes ones from 1998. (However, this is IMAP connected to our Novell GroupWise server.) Terje I can't remember, but either win98 and older you can have up to 2 gigs worth of messages, and win2000 and later you can have 5 gigs. Or, its FAT32 can only have 2 gigs and NTFS is 5 gigs. I am currently trying to download a new version of Mandriva Linux, and, in their email, they say:- Quote - Make sure you have enough space on your partition to store all the data: especially if you are downloading the DVD ISOs, these may be larger than 4 GB. Note that FAT filesystems cannot handle a file larger than 2 GB (4 GB for FAT32). Mandriva Linux, MacOS X default filesystems are fine, as Microsoft NTFS. End Quote Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: I wrote an article concerning this, referring to SeaMonkey's ancestor, Netscape 7. I think it applies here as well: http://community.netscape.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=ws-nscpbrowser&tid=8116 Basically, do not use Inbox as a long term repository for stored email. If you need to keep email, store it in archive folders. I would have to disagree with you on that Lee. That might have been a problem in the old Netscape days, but its not now. I've had stuff in my inbox for years, and never had a problem. Then again, my inbox isn't over 2 gigs big either. But I do have other folders that are about that big and still don't have problems. But Grant, if they are in other folders, they are not in Inbox, are they? I don't think it matters how long items have been there, its the size and the constant access that does it. but I'm saying I have many messages within the inbox that have been there for years, and I've never experienced any problems. Since the OP found that the problem did not occur with a clean Inbox, but reoccurred with the old Inbox restored, is that not instructive? I think the OPs problem is he reached the size limit for an SM folder which is 2 gigs!: http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/mailnewsfaq/SizeLimit While in TB its 4 gigs: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Limits_%28Thunderbird%29#Folders_and_messages Talk about discrimination! ;-) I use Win2k and openSUSE 11.1/SLED Linux. In general I think it would have been useful to get 4GB file size limit of Inbox in SM also (as in TB and as on FAT32). Is there a howto or suggestion about how to "aplit" the Inbox or move parts to archieve folders? And can filter and search functions work with Archieve and Inbox folders concurrently? Though I previous year had to move our office SM Inboxes on Win2kTS through some smaller parts using IMAP to GW on our OES2/Linux, it was a lot more work when the Inbox was splitted in subfolders. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update
Leonidas Jones wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: I wrote an article concerning this, referring to SeaMonkey's ancestor, Netscape 7. I think it applies here as well: http://community.netscape.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=ws-nscpbrowser&tid=8116 Basically, do not use Inbox as a long term repository for stored email. If you need to keep email, store it in archive folders. I would have to disagree with you on that Lee. That might have been a problem in the old Netscape days, but its not now. I've had stuff in my inbox for years, and never had a problem. Then again, my inbox isn't over 2 gigs big either. But I do have other folders that are about that big and still don't have problems. But Grant, if they are in other folders, they are not in Inbox, are they? I don't think it matters how long items have been there, its the size and the constant access that does it. but I'm saying I have many messages within the inbox that have been there for years, and I've never experienced any problems. Since the OP found that the problem did not occur with a clean Inbox, but reoccurred with the old Inbox restored, is that not instructive? I think the OPs problem is he reached the size limit for an SM folder which is 2 gigs!: http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/mailnewsfaq/SizeLimit While in TB its 4 gigs: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Limits_%28Thunderbird%29#Folders_and_messages Talk about discrimination! ;-) -- *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email help Emails to me may become public Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned. Peter Potamus & His Magic Flying Balloon: http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3 http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: terje wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: I have a large mail map of 3.9GB whereof the Inbox is 2.3GB, located on a FAT32 file system. The problem is that the index file no longer does update automatic. Trying to view new incoming messages, shows the text content of some legacy old messages. Selecting Inbox> Properties> Rebuild index does fix the index problem temporary, until new messages are received. Suggestions how to fix this index problem? Rgds, Terje close the program and delete the *.msf file for that account. Restart SM, then click on that folder, it should rebuild now. You might want to move some of messages out of that folder and separate that into some smaller folders. I've tried that once before, but gave it a try again. As this is a common SM mail box I use to access from dual boot Linux and Windows systems and used over the generation with Netscape, Mozilla and now SM email clients, I removed every *.msf file found on the system. And yes, the index files rebuilds after SM startup. But when I send myself a new test mail and receive it in the Inbox, the body content of this message becomes blanc, before I rebuild the index file manually as first mentioned. I have no idea why not the index file updates itself automatically, or may this be another issue? Terje You do have a very large inbox file. Try this, as an experiment. Close SeaMonkey, navigate to the profile and delete the Inbox.msf file again. Rename Inbox to OldInbox. Open up SeaMonkey. Do you have the same problem downloading new mail? Lee I've tried that experiment; created a new Inbox and didn't encounter the index problem downloading new mail. I renamed OldInbox back again to Inbox, and the problem arrieved again. My Inbox contains about 13800 mails, the oldest messages since 1999. I don't know if this has exceeded some limit for what the SM indexing can handle? Terje The Inbox file can take quite a beating. It is the introduction to your email, it is opened and closed constantly. The wisest course it to keep the Inbox as small as possible. Once mail has come in, either delete it if you do not need it, or file the mail into custom folders. Letting the Inbox build up like that is asking for trouble. I wrote an article concerning this, referring to SeaMonkey's ancestor, Netscape 7. I think it applies here as well: http://community.netscape.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=ws-nscpbrowser&tid=8116 Basically, do not use Inbox as a long term repository for stored email. If you need to keep email, store it in archive folders. Lee I would have to disagree with you on that Lee. That might have been a problem in the old Netscape days, but its not now. I've had stuff in my inbox for years, and never had a problem. Then again, my inbox isn't over 2 gigs big either. But I do have other folders that are about that big and still don't have problems. But Grant, if they are in other folders, they are not in Inbox, are they? I don't think it matters how long items have been there, its the size and the constant access that does it. Since the OP found that the problem did not occur with a clean Inbox, but reoccurred with the old Inbox restored, is that not instructive? Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update
Leonidas Jones wrote: terje wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: I have a large mail map of 3.9GB whereof the Inbox is 2.3GB, located on a FAT32 file system. The problem is that the index file no longer does update automatic. Trying to view new incoming messages, shows the text content of some legacy old messages. Selecting Inbox> Properties> Rebuild index does fix the index problem temporary, until new messages are received. Suggestions how to fix this index problem? Rgds, Terje close the program and delete the *.msf file for that account. Restart SM, then click on that folder, it should rebuild now. You might want to move some of messages out of that folder and separate that into some smaller folders. I've tried that once before, but gave it a try again. As this is a common SM mail box I use to access from dual boot Linux and Windows systems and used over the generation with Netscape, Mozilla and now SM email clients, I removed every *.msf file found on the system. And yes, the index files rebuilds after SM startup. But when I send myself a new test mail and receive it in the Inbox, the body content of this message becomes blanc, before I rebuild the index file manually as first mentioned. I have no idea why not the index file updates itself automatically, or may this be another issue? Terje You do have a very large inbox file. Try this, as an experiment. Close SeaMonkey, navigate to the profile and delete the Inbox.msf file again. Rename Inbox to OldInbox. Open up SeaMonkey. Do you have the same problem downloading new mail? Lee I've tried that experiment; created a new Inbox and didn't encounter the index problem downloading new mail. I renamed OldInbox back again to Inbox, and the problem arrieved again. My Inbox contains about 13800 mails, the oldest messages since 1999. I don't know if this has exceeded some limit for what the SM indexing can handle? Terje The Inbox file can take quite a beating. It is the introduction to your email, it is opened and closed constantly. The wisest course it to keep the Inbox as small as possible. Once mail has come in, either delete it if you do not need it, or file the mail into custom folders. Letting the Inbox build up like that is asking for trouble. I wrote an article concerning this, referring to SeaMonkey's ancestor, Netscape 7. I think it applies here as well: http://community.netscape.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=ws-nscpbrowser&tid=8116 Basically, do not use Inbox as a long term repository for stored email. If you need to keep email, store it in archive folders. Lee I would have to disagree with you on that Lee. That might have been a problem in the old Netscape days, but its not now. I've had stuff in my inbox for years, and never had a problem. Then again, my inbox isn't over 2 gigs big either. But I do have other folders that are about that big and still don't have problems. -- *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email help Emails to me may become public Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned. Peter Potamus & His Magic Flying Balloon: http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3 http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update
terje wrote: terje wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: I have a large mail map of 3.9GB whereof the Inbox is 2.3GB, located on a FAT32 file system. The problem is that the index file no longer does update automatic. Trying to view new incoming messages, shows the text content of some legacy old messages. Selecting Inbox> Properties> Rebuild index does fix the index problem temporary, until new messages are received. Suggestions how to fix this index problem? Rgds, Terje close the program and delete the *.msf file for that account. Restart SM, then click on that folder, it should rebuild now. You might want to move some of messages out of that folder and separate that into some smaller folders. I've tried that once before, but gave it a try again. As this is a common SM mail box I use to access from dual boot Linux and Windows systems and used over the generation with Netscape, Mozilla and now SM email clients, I removed every *.msf file found on the system. And yes, the index files rebuilds after SM startup. But when I send myself a new test mail and receive it in the Inbox, the body content of this message becomes blanc, before I rebuild the index file manually as first mentioned. I have no idea why not the index file updates itself automatically, or may this be another issue? Terje You do have a very large inbox file. Try this, as an experiment. Close SeaMonkey, navigate to the profile and delete the Inbox.msf file again. Rename Inbox to OldInbox. Open up SeaMonkey. Do you have the same problem downloading new mail? Lee I've tried that experiment; created a new Inbox and didn't encounter the index problem downloading new mail. I renamed OldInbox back again to Inbox, and the problem arrieved again. My Inbox contains about 13800 mails, the oldest messages since 1999. I don't know if this has exceeded some limit for what the SM indexing can handle? I can clarify myselfe that this ought not be a limit. On my office, my SM Inbox currently contains 15400 messages, with the oldes ones from 1998. (However, this is IMAP connected to our Novell GroupWise server.) Terje I can't remember, but either win98 and older you can have up to 2 gigs worth of messages, and win2000 and later you can have 5 gigs. Or, its FAT32 can only have 2 gigs and NTFS is 5 gigs. -- *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email help Emails to me may become public Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned. Peter Potamus & His Magic Flying Balloon: http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3 http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update
terje wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: I have a large mail map of 3.9GB whereof the Inbox is 2.3GB, located on a FAT32 file system. The problem is that the index file no longer does update automatic. Trying to view new incoming messages, shows the text content of some legacy old messages. Selecting Inbox> Properties> Rebuild index does fix the index problem temporary, until new messages are received. Suggestions how to fix this index problem? Rgds, Terje close the program and delete the *.msf file for that account. Restart SM, then click on that folder, it should rebuild now. You might want to move some of messages out of that folder and separate that into some smaller folders. I've tried that once before, but gave it a try again. As this is a common SM mail box I use to access from dual boot Linux and Windows systems and used over the generation with Netscape, Mozilla and now SM email clients, I removed every *.msf file found on the system. And yes, the index files rebuilds after SM startup. But when I send myself a new test mail and receive it in the Inbox, the body content of this message becomes blanc, before I rebuild the index file manually as first mentioned. I have no idea why not the index file updates itself automatically, or may this be another issue? Terje You do have a very large inbox file. Try this, as an experiment. Close SeaMonkey, navigate to the profile and delete the Inbox.msf file again. Rename Inbox to OldInbox. Open up SeaMonkey. Do you have the same problem downloading new mail? Lee I've tried that experiment; created a new Inbox and didn't encounter the index problem downloading new mail. I renamed OldInbox back again to Inbox, and the problem arrieved again. My Inbox contains about 13800 mails, the oldest messages since 1999. I don't know if this has exceeded some limit for what the SM indexing can handle? Terje The Inbox file can take quite a beating. It is the introduction to your email, it is opened and closed constantly. The wisest course it to keep the Inbox as small as possible. Once mail has come in, either delete it if you do not need it, or file the mail into custom folders. Letting the Inbox build up like that is asking for trouble. I wrote an article concerning this, referring to SeaMonkey's ancestor, Netscape 7. I think it applies here as well: http://community.netscape.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=ws-nscpbrowser&tid=8116 Basically, do not use Inbox as a long term repository for stored email. If you need to keep email, store it in archive folders. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update
terje wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: I have a large mail map of 3.9GB whereof the Inbox is 2.3GB, located on a FAT32 file system. The problem is that the index file no longer does update automatic. Trying to view new incoming messages, shows the text content of some legacy old messages. Selecting Inbox> Properties> Rebuild index does fix the index problem temporary, until new messages are received. Suggestions how to fix this index problem? Rgds, Terje close the program and delete the *.msf file for that account. Restart SM, then click on that folder, it should rebuild now. You might want to move some of messages out of that folder and separate that into some smaller folders. I've tried that once before, but gave it a try again. As this is a common SM mail box I use to access from dual boot Linux and Windows systems and used over the generation with Netscape, Mozilla and now SM email clients, I removed every *.msf file found on the system. And yes, the index files rebuilds after SM startup. But when I send myself a new test mail and receive it in the Inbox, the body content of this message becomes blanc, before I rebuild the index file manually as first mentioned. I have no idea why not the index file updates itself automatically, or may this be another issue? Terje You do have a very large inbox file. Try this, as an experiment. Close SeaMonkey, navigate to the profile and delete the Inbox.msf file again. Rename Inbox to OldInbox. Open up SeaMonkey. Do you have the same problem downloading new mail? Lee I've tried that experiment; created a new Inbox and didn't encounter the index problem downloading new mail. I renamed OldInbox back again to Inbox, and the problem arrieved again. My Inbox contains about 13800 mails, the oldest messages since 1999. I don't know if this has exceeded some limit for what the SM indexing can handle? I can clarify myselfe that this ought not be a limit. On my office, my SM Inbox currently contains 15400 messages, with the oldes ones from 1998. (However, this is IMAP connected to our Novell GroupWise server.) Terje ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update
Leonidas Jones wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: I have a large mail map of 3.9GB whereof the Inbox is 2.3GB, located on a FAT32 file system. The problem is that the index file no longer does update automatic. Trying to view new incoming messages, shows the text content of some legacy old messages. Selecting Inbox> Properties> Rebuild index does fix the index problem temporary, until new messages are received. Suggestions how to fix this index problem? Rgds, Terje close the program and delete the *.msf file for that account. Restart SM, then click on that folder, it should rebuild now. You might want to move some of messages out of that folder and separate that into some smaller folders. I've tried that once before, but gave it a try again. As this is a common SM mail box I use to access from dual boot Linux and Windows systems and used over the generation with Netscape, Mozilla and now SM email clients, I removed every *.msf file found on the system. And yes, the index files rebuilds after SM startup. But when I send myself a new test mail and receive it in the Inbox, the body content of this message becomes blanc, before I rebuild the index file manually as first mentioned. I have no idea why not the index file updates itself automatically, or may this be another issue? Terje You do have a very large inbox file. Try this, as an experiment. Close SeaMonkey, navigate to the profile and delete the Inbox.msf file again. Rename Inbox to OldInbox. Open up SeaMonkey. Do you have the same problem downloading new mail? Lee I've tried that experiment; created a new Inbox and didn't encounter the index problem downloading new mail. I renamed OldInbox back again to Inbox, and the problem arrieved again. My Inbox contains about 13800 mails, the oldest messages since 1999. I don't know if this has exceeded some limit for what the SM indexing can handle? Terje ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update
u...@domain.invalid wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: I have a large mail map of 3.9GB whereof the Inbox is 2.3GB, located on a FAT32 file system. The problem is that the index file no longer does update automatic. Trying to view new incoming messages, shows the text content of some legacy old messages. Selecting Inbox > Properties > Rebuild index does fix the index problem temporary, until new messages are received. Suggestions how to fix this index problem? Rgds, Terje close the program and delete the *.msf file for that account. Restart SM, then click on that folder, it should rebuild now. You might want to move some of messages out of that folder and separate that into some smaller folders. I've tried that once before, but gave it a try again. As this is a common SM mail box I use to access from dual boot Linux and Windows systems and used over the generation with Netscape, Mozilla and now SM email clients, I removed every *.msf file found on the system. And yes, the index files rebuilds after SM startup. But when I send myself a new test mail and receive it in the Inbox, the body content of this message becomes blanc, before I rebuild the index file manually as first mentioned. I have no idea why not the index file updates itself automatically, or may this be another issue? Terje when you delete the .msf files, you must do so with the program closed. And yes, when you restart SM, the files will be rebuilt. However, I have found that I need to click on each and every folder for the index to be rebuilt officially. -- *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email help Emails to me may become public Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned. Peter Potamus & His Magic Flying Balloon: http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3 http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update
u...@domain.invalid wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: I have a large mail map of 3.9GB whereof the Inbox is 2.3GB, located on a FAT32 file system. The problem is that the index file no longer does update automatic. Trying to view new incoming messages, shows the text content of some legacy old messages. Selecting Inbox> Properties> Rebuild index does fix the index problem temporary, until new messages are received. Suggestions how to fix this index problem? Rgds, Terje close the program and delete the *.msf file for that account. Restart SM, then click on that folder, it should rebuild now. You might want to move some of messages out of that folder and separate that into some smaller folders. I've tried that once before, but gave it a try again. As this is a common SM mail box I use to access from dual boot Linux and Windows systems and used over the generation with Netscape, Mozilla and now SM email clients, I removed every *.msf file found on the system. And yes, the index files rebuilds after SM startup. But when I send myself a new test mail and receive it in the Inbox, the body content of this message becomes blanc, before I rebuild the index file manually as first mentioned. I have no idea why not the index file updates itself automatically, or may this be another issue? Terje You do have a very large inbox file. Try this, as an experiment. Close SeaMonkey, navigate to the profile and delete the Inbox.msf file again. Rename Inbox to OldInbox. Open up SeaMonkey. Do you have the same problem downloading new mail? Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: > u...@domain.invalid wrote: >> I have a large mail map of 3.9GB whereof the Inbox is 2.3GB, located on >> a FAT32 file system. >> >> The problem is that the index file no longer does update automatic. >> Trying to view new incoming messages, shows the text content of some >> legacy old messages. >> >> Selecting Inbox > Properties > Rebuild index does fix the index problem >> temporary, until new messages are received. >> >> Suggestions how to fix this index problem? >> >> Rgds, >> Terje > > close the program and delete the *.msf file for that account. Restart > SM, then click on that folder, it should rebuild now. > > You might want to move some of messages out of that folder and separate > that into some smaller folders. > I've tried that once before, but gave it a try again. As this is a common SM mail box I use to access from dual boot Linux and Windows systems and used over the generation with Netscape, Mozilla and now SM email clients, I removed every *.msf file found on the system. And yes, the index files rebuilds after SM startup. But when I send myself a new test mail and receive it in the Inbox, the body content of this message becomes blanc, before I rebuild the index file manually as first mentioned. I have no idea why not the index file updates itself automatically, or may this be another issue? Terje ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM mail box index file doesn't update
u...@domain.invalid wrote: I have a large mail map of 3.9GB whereof the Inbox is 2.3GB, located on a FAT32 file system. The problem is that the index file no longer does update automatic. Trying to view new incoming messages, shows the text content of some legacy old messages. Selecting Inbox > Properties > Rebuild index does fix the index problem temporary, until new messages are received. Suggestions how to fix this index problem? Rgds, Terje close the program and delete the *.msf file for that account. Restart SM, then click on that folder, it should rebuild now. You might want to move some of messages out of that folder and separate that into some smaller folders. -- *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email help Emails to me may become public Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned. Peter Potamus & His Magic Flying Balloon: http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3 http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
