So I suppose you don't want me to point out that your website is
incorrectly
spelled as sight -- unless that was intentional... :-)
Ok... there is a story behind the misspelling of site The page was
supposed to be C64 Site, but I goofed up on my second logo (the one which
was a mockup of
Karl Kuras wrote:
So I suppose you don't want me to point out that your website is
incorrectly
spelled as sight -- unless that was intentional... :-)
Ok... there is a story behind the misspelling of site The page was
supposed to be C64 Site, but I goofed up on my second logo (the
Hugh Falk wrote:
Well, you can call it whatever you like. The IBM-compatible PC is a PC,
but so is Apple and the others. So it isn't correct to only call that brand
a PC. If you chose to be incorrect, that's your choice.
I am not calling that brand a PC -- maybe you're misunderstanding
Hugh Falk wrote:
I'm
simply saying that it is incorrect to say that the term PC only applies to
IBM/Intel-compatibles.
Which term? Personal Computer, or IBM PC Model 5150? PC is an abbreviation
for both.
That, ultimately, is the crux of my argument.
--
http://www.MobyGames.com/
The
Ah, but let's keep in mind that we are not limited to common vernacular.
We
are the experts in this field.
We are?! :
Just as doctors, mechanics, etc. have
their own words and terms to discuss their expertise, so should we.
But we do, like the pink frisbee, or the OCCID, or the hobbyt, etc!
Hugh Falk boldly stated:
On a related note, did it bother anyone else in the 80's when people would
refer to Atari or Nintendo cartridges as tapes?
Yes, and it still does. Although I understand it sometimes help to
stoop to that level to find them at yard sales. 8) I believe classic
game
Hugh Falk wrote:
Well, you can call it whatever you like. The IBM-compatible PC is a PC,
but so is Apple and the others. So it isn't correct to only call that
brand
a PC. If you chose to be incorrect, that's your choice.
For example, you could incorrectly say something like this, I was
Quaresma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Hugh Falk wrote:
Well, you can call it whatever you like. The IBM-compatible PC is a PC,
but so is Apple and the others. So it isn't correct to only
Pedro Quaresma wrote:
Jim Leonard wrote:
Pedro Quaresma wrote:
Yes, but that's not the point; as I explained earlier, the PC versions
are signficantly different, rare, or both. Hence the need to get them.
Usually the AppleII versions of most games are more rare
In what world do
Karl Kuras wrote:
I was one of the first 10 Abandonware websites, and
I built up the original AB ring with a search engine, mailing list,
etc. I was also, not by coincidence, the first AB site taken down by
the IDSA. My site was up in 1997.
Well I can't say anything personally... but
LKS Of course it's collectible! You never know when you'll find the disks
LKS loose somewhere. Surely you can't tell me you'd pass over a pink
LKS frisbee or Suspended mask package just because the disks were
LKS missing. Obviously a package with disks is worth more than one
LKS without and a
Pedro Quaresma wrote:
Yes, but that's not the point; as I explained earlier, the PC versions
are signficantly different, rare, or both. Hence the need to get them.
Usually the AppleII versions of most games are more rare
In what world do you live in? :-) The Apple II had a HUGE pirate
, but
in hindsight, Intel-compatibles is a more appropriate term.
Hugh
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Hugh Falk wrote:
Okay, well the word has come
Hugh Falk wrote:
Oh yeah! :-) Well PC != IBM. PC stands for Personal Computer. Apple, TI,
Atari, C64, etc. are all PCs. So if we're talking semantics, you should
refer to them like I do on my site -- Intel-compatibles or Intels for
short. Of course, back in the 80's, they were called
Hugh Falk wrote:
Oh yeah! :-) Well PC != IBM. PC stands for Personal Computer. Apple,
TI,
Atari, C64, etc. are all PCs. So if we're talking semantics, you should
refer to them like I do on my site -- Intel-compatibles or Intels
for
short. Of course, back in the 80's, they were
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Pedro Quaresma wrote:
Not the point -- if it's rare, *nobody* has copies. Which is why I try
to collect them -- to make copies before the software is lost forever.
It's not the Starcross floppies that make the game rare, right? :)
No, but it *is* the floppies that make Zinderneuf or
Jim Leonard wrote:
Pedro Quaresma wrote:
Not the point -- if it's rare, *nobody* has copies. Which is why I try
to collect them -- to make copies before the software is lost forever.
It's not the Starcross floppies that make the game rare, right? :)
No, but it *is* the floppies that make
Epyx History (Free Fall Associates) page:
http://www.classicgaming.com/gotcha/epyx.htm
Best regards,
Hugh
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C.E
criteria above.
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Pedro Quaresma wrote:
Not the point -- if it's rare, *nobody* has copies. Which is why I try
Hugh Falk wrote:
About Murder on the Zinderneuf...I have the DOS version, and I'm in the
Northern Hemisphere! :-) I had no idea it was valuable at all. I don't
That's because the DOS version isn't DOS -- it's a booter. You must
have a cracked copy.
Unless, of course, my sources are
Lee K. Seitz wrote:
Jim Leonard boldly stated:
That's not quite what I meant, but you pose an interesting point: Is a
software package without diskettes collectable at all? I would love to
hear everyone's thoughts on this. Personally, I can't place any value
at all in a software
Lee K. Seitz wrote:
them in to get one.) Many people have it at the top of their wanted
list, but (even discounting one-of-a-kind prototypes) there are
certainly other games that are rarer.
What's rarer than a one-of-a-kind prototype? I thought prototypes were
the Holy Grail of cart
Cracked? What do you mean? I have the original box and disk that says on
the EA label: IBM XT, PC, PCjr, COMPAQ
Hugh
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Hugh Falk wrote:
Cracked? What do you mean? I have the original box and disk that says on
the EA label: IBM XT, PC, PCjr, COMPAQ
PC does not equal DOS. It is a bootable disk, like Pinball
Construction Set, Music Construction Set, Dr J. and Larry Bird go One on
One, and other conversions.
Jim Leonard boldly stated:
Lee K. Seitz wrote:
them in to get one.) Many people have it at the top of their wanted
list, but (even discounting one-of-a-kind prototypes) there are
certainly other games that are rarer.
What's rarer than a one-of-a-kind prototype? I thought prototypes were
it's possible that a
DOS version was also made.
Hugh
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Jim,
I've sent Jon Freeman a note asking if a DOS version of CCC
Hugh Falk wrote:
Okay, well the word has come back from Jon, and the answer
is...inconclusive. He said there wasn't one when he left Epyx to form Free
Fall Associates in 81 (which makes sense, of course). However, there could
have been one made later on.
That is exactly the answer I got
I think it's too Tolkeinesque. My company is looking into a game based on
the Lord of the Rings...believe it or not, the caretakers of the Tolken
estate would probably slap you with a cease and desist if this ever became
official! Sad but true!:-)
Hugh
But in this case the name has
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Pedro Quaresma wrote:
I thought of habyt, hobit, but ended up with hobbyt, how does it
sound?
Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder seems to fit the bill more. Unless you're
grabbing them
Jim Leonard wrote:
Pedro Quaresma wrote:
I thought of habyt, hobit, but ended up with hobbyt, how does it
sound?
Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder seems to fit the bill more.
You have just stated that about 50% of game collectors in the world, and
including reknown ones like Jason P. Cobb
Hugh Falk wrote,
Well, there is one other valid reason. Let's say that only 100,000 Ultima
IV's where ever produced (for the sake of a round number). And let's say
that half of those have been thrown away, lost or otherwise damaged beyond
recognition. That means that if you own 5 of them,
Hugh Falk wrote:
Well, there is one other valid reason. Let's say that only 100,000 Ultima
IV's where ever produced (for the sake of a round number). And let's say
that half of those have been thrown away, lost or otherwise damaged beyond
recognition. That means that if you own 5 of
Pedro Quaresma wrote:
Hugh Falk wrote,
Well, there is one other valid reason. Let's say that only 100,000 Ultima
IV's where ever produced (for the sake of a round number). And let's say
that half of those have been thrown away, lost or otherwise damaged beyond
recognition. That means
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Pedro Quaresma wrote:
I thought of habyt, hobit, but ended up with hobbyt, how does it
sound?
Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder seems to fit the bill more
So I'm actually not surprised that anyone who collects
anything has a slight bit of a neurological disorder.
It would explain a lot of odd, quirkish behavior. And I myself am mildly
obsessive-compulsive in other areas of my life besides collecting.
I purchase 2 of everything: 1 to appreciate,
C.E. Forman wrote:
So I'm actually not surprised that anyone who collects
anything has a slight bit of a neurological disorder.
It would explain a lot of odd, quirkish behavior. And I myself am mildly
obsessive-compulsive in other areas of my life besides collecting.
I think anyone who
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