Re: [SWCollect] CyberMania '94

2001-06-29 Thread Pedro Quaresma
JLIf you don't play an RPG or adventure game to finish it, why do you play JLit? CEFBecause playing it is *fun*? Yes, to beat it is one reason, in the sense CEFthat we buy games expecting to eventually finish them, and not to keep CEFplaying them forever. But do you go into a store and grab a

Re: [SWCollect] CyberMania '94

2001-06-28 Thread Pedro Quaresma
Jim Leonard wrote: So, okay, so give me some examples of worse ones then. Eye of the Beholder. When you win the game, you get a single page of text, then the DOS prompt. Talk about a letdown! And the really sucky thing is, they had a whole animation (as good as the intro animation) that

Re: [SWCollect] CyberMania '94

2001-06-28 Thread C.E. Forman
Although I'd love to see a different ending (and I've seen worse ones), the game is very good, and it represents a very important moment in the history of Computer Role-Playing Games! I would agree. The merit of a game is not whether the ending is any good (though it's a bonus if it is), but

Re: [SWCollect] CyberMania '94

2001-06-28 Thread Jim Leonard
Pedro Quaresma wrote: Oh, oh, hold it, hold it, hold it right there! Why? Are great games allowed to have horrible payoffs that are completely not in the spirit of the rest of the game? Although I'd love to see a different ending (and I've seen worse ones), the game is very good, and it

Re: [SWCollect] CyberMania '94

2001-06-28 Thread Jim Leonard
Lee K. Seitz wrote: Jim Leonard boldly stated: When you say game-related, does that mean PC games or consoles, too? Anything that has historical interest. Modern consoles, probably not. But anything pre-PlayStation era, sure! Why, what do you have in mind? Well I've amassed a

Re: [SWCollect] CyberMania '94

2001-06-28 Thread Jim Leonard
Karl Kuras wrote: I'm not. CyberMania '94 has that honor. B-) LGoP2 is my personal low, though, considering the time and enjoyment I got out of it for the price I paid. (To me, bad budget titles don't hit as hard as bad $44.95 games.) So, okay, so give me some examples of worse

Re: [SWCollect] CyberMania '94

2001-06-28 Thread Lee K. Seitz
Jim Leonard boldly stated: Lemmings came out for C64? Didn't Lemmings come out for almost every platform available at the time? -- Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/ Wanted: | Visit the Classic Video Games Nexus Vintage Pac-M*n

Re: [SWCollect] CyberMania '94

2001-06-28 Thread Jim Leonard
Pedro Quaresma wrote: No, but the fact that they don't have neat payoffs don't make them bad games. And we were discussing bad games. All I was saying was that I was incredibly let down. I almost wished I had never finished it. It was released on a very important period for 90degrees 1st

Re: [SWCollect] CyberMania '94

2001-06-28 Thread Jim Leonard
Lee K. Seitz wrote: Jim Leonard boldly stated: Lemmings came out for C64? Didn't Lemmings come out for almost every platform available at the time? Maybe... I guess I was just surprised since you need a halfway decent resolution to play Lemmings, and C64's 320x200x2 mode (or 160x200x16

Re: [SWCollect] CyberMania '94

2001-06-28 Thread C.E. Forman
Why? Are great games allowed to have horrible payoffs that are completely not in the spirit of the rest of the game? It seems the ending of EotB is the only gripe you have with the game, since you still refer to it as a great game (and this despite your having just named it as worse than

Re: [SWCollect] CyberMania '94

2001-06-28 Thread Pedro Quaresma
Jim Leonard wrote: Pedro Quaresma wrote: [snip] I understand the first 2, but Baldur's Gate 2 is a great game...? Oh, no it's not. I'm sorry, I just can't agree. As I mentioned once, I've played around 200 RPGs in my life, and through some direct comparison, I've seen nothing special about

Re: [SWCollect] CyberMania '94

2001-06-28 Thread Karl Kuras
- From: Jim Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] CyberMania '94 Karl Kuras wrote: I'm not. CyberMania '94 has that honor. B-) LGoP2 is my personal low, though, considering the time and enjoyment I got out

Re: [SWCollect] CyberMania '94

2001-06-28 Thread Karl Kuras
PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] CyberMania '94 Jim Leonard boldly stated: Lemmings came out for C64? Didn't Lemmings come out for almost every platform available at the time? -- Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz

Re: [SWCollect] CyberMania '94

2001-06-28 Thread Jim Leonard
C.E. Forman wrote: Why? Are great games allowed to have horrible payoffs that are completely not in the spirit of the rest of the game? It seems the ending of EotB is the only gripe you have with the game, since you still refer to it as a great game (and this despite your having just

Re: [SWCollect] CyberMania '94

2001-06-28 Thread Jim Leonard
Pedro Quaresma wrote: I read all the reviews/ads above, and I admit if I'd base my opinion on this game by these reviews, I'd agree with you (I did buy the game, didn't I? :)). They were all reviews, not ads. I also was GIVEN the game by someone who finished it twice and said he loved it

Re: [SWCollect] CyberMania '94

2001-06-28 Thread C.E. Forman
It seems the ending of EotB is the only gripe you have with the game, since you still refer to it as a great game (and this despite your having just named it as worse than LGoP2). I didn't name it worse than LGoP2, you did. Correct if I'm mistaken, but I could have sworn you were the one who

Re: [SWCollect] CyberMania '94

2001-06-27 Thread Karl Kuras
No can do, but if anyone does have it I'd be more than happy to convert it to VideoCD for viewing on a DVD player. The following is only slightly off-topic, but I'll bring it around to software collecting in a bit: Following up on the whole discussion of converting video to digital, have you

Re: [SWCollect] CyberMania '94

2001-06-27 Thread C.E. Forman
Just for clarification, was this shown on TBS with Leslie Neilsen hosting or am I thinking of something else? I taped it, but was so disenchanted by it I'm pretty sure I taped over it. I forget whether it was on TBS or not, but Leslie Nielsen did host.

Re: [SWCollect] CyberMania '94

2001-06-27 Thread Jim Leonard
Lee K. Seitz wrote: Jim Leonard boldly stated: By now you're either asking me to shut up :-) or asking But why do this when you can just copy the videotape? Well, have you ever seen a 3rd- or 4th-generation copy of a videotape? How about nth generation? I've got a copy of a copy of a

Re: [SWCollect] CyberMania '94

2001-06-27 Thread Jim Leonard
Karl Kuras wrote: No can do, but if anyone does have it I'd be more than happy to convert it to VideoCD for viewing on a DVD player. The following is only slightly off-topic, but I'll bring it around to software collecting in a bit: Following up on the whole discussion of converting

Re: [SWCollect] CyberMania '94

2001-06-27 Thread Jim Leonard
C.E. Forman wrote: So what's a qualified project? Game-related material, of course! In August, I'll have the capability to burn actual DVDs onto $10 blanks. I plan to put a lot of stuff onto DVD (including chapter points, menus, etc.) that nobody else would bother with. Both

Re: [SWCollect] CyberMania '94

2001-06-27 Thread Lee K. Seitz
Jim Leonard boldly stated: C.E. Forman wrote: (To me, bad budget titles don't hit as hard as bad $44.95 games.) That is very true. So, okay, so give me some examples of worse ones then. I have an example of a budget title: 3D Pinball from the Coffee Break series. Trying to play pinball

[SWCollect] CyberMania '94

2001-06-26 Thread C.E. Forman
Here's an odd request for you... Does anyone have a tape of the (howlingly BAD) computer / videogame awards show CyberMania '94? God only knows why, but I've had the recent urge to see it again. Thanks in advance! (For those of you who missed it, CyberMania '94 was supposed to be gaming's