typo: references -> Preferences.
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op wo 21 aug. 2019 om 11:13 schreef Peter Elderson :
> I have now seen PT stop discussions a gazillion times. The references and
> differences reflect the different usages people have in mind, from: I just
> want to map wh
I have now seen PT stop discussions a gazillion times. The references and
differences reflect the different usages people have in mind, from: I just
want to map what's visible on the ground, to Support every thinkable way of
linking, routing, planning and navigating.
Just saying.
Fr gr Peter
Andy Townsend :
>
>> On 19/08/2019 19:04, Peter Elderson wrote:
>>
>> Ok, I accept I just don't know how it's done. So how is that done? How do I
>> tell my Garmin to guide me along, say, the Limes trail through the
>> Netherlands?
> Essentially, you'
Richard Fairhurst :
> Kenny:
> > I do want editors minimally to observe the 'don't break the route'
> > principle. About 80% of the broken-route problem can be solved
> > simply by, "when splitting a way, both the pieces become members
> > of any route relations in which the original way
and the
ways. Then import that into OsmAnd. The OsmAnd combines that with the map
again, to turn the track (list of points) back into a route (list of ways
you began with) for navigation. Am I the only one to find this a bit odd?
Fr gr Peter Elderson
Op di 20 aug. 2019 om 09:25 schreef s8evq
.
Mvg Peter Elderson
> Op 20 aug. 2019 om 08:13 heeft Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> het volgende
> geschreven:
>
> The longest local route to me that I have worked on is over 5,000 km long. I
> am certain that would not fit on my GPS as a route using this method.
>
Peter Elderson
Op di 20 aug. 2019 om 05:49 schreef Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>:
> On 18/08/19 00:07, Peter Elderson wrote:
> > In this case, I do NOT want to go from A to B. I want to do the hike,
> > that is the route, exactly as it is specified OSM. Those ways, in the
&g
parts of the forward chain should be used reversely to
produce the complete route for opposite direction. Maybe the order of the ways
is a clue?
Mvg Peter Elderson
> Op 20 aug. 2019 om 00:28 heeft Kevin Kenny het
> volgende geschreven:
>
>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 6:05 PM
> Volker Schmidt het volgende geschreven:
>
>> On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 15:40, Peter Elderson wrote:
>> Ideally, you should not have to create gpx-s from them and you should need
>> no ordering or routing at all, because they ARE the routes. An app or
>> gps-devi
Andy Townsend :
> On 19/08/2019 17:21, Peter Elderson wrote:
>
> the only way for the likes of me is to use detection tools and
> maintenance tools to order data by hand at the mapping level, so ordinary
> people can use waymarkedtrails to get usable linear gpx-s for their
>
Richard Fairhurst :
> On mobile, on train, apologies for lack of formatting. :)
>
> Sarah - the problem is that when you say “one single simple
> instruction to the mapper: sort your route“, the instruction might be
> simple
> but carrying it out isn’t.
>
> Let’s say we have a cyclist, new to
there. It's about doing the way. As hikers
use to say, the way is the goal. Very Tao.
Fr gr Peter Elderson
Op ma 19 aug. 2019 om 14:46 schreef Volker Schmidt :
> Maybe it's the summer heat, or my age, but I still don't get the essential
> step in both Sarah's and Peter's reasoning.
&
Kevin Kenny :
>
>> On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 3:31 PM Peter Elderson wrote:
>> I'm afraid testing is all I can offer. I could list problems to detect, but
>> I think I would not be telling you news. Very important: handle nested
>> relations (hierarchies). RA current
Richard Fairhurst :
> Sarah Hoffman wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 01:11:17AM -0700, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
> > > Peter Elderson wrote:
> > > > The point is, as it is it's not good enough for data use besides
> > > > rendering. you
against breaking, not
repairing flaws at the client side.
Maybe the latest improvements in ID help. It's too early to tell. I'm still
encountering issues all the time in the routes I check and use.
Fr gr Peter Elderson
Op za 17 aug. 2019 om 15:58 schreef Joseph Eisenberg <
joseph.eis
.
If that can't be done directly, I want to get an export that I can feed to
my device or app, so it can recreate the route exactly, without adding,
weighing, guessing or rerouting anything.
When I'm planning a hike, I want the software to start with the exact OSM
route, not a rerouted version.
Fr gr Peter
.
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op za 17 aug. 2019 om 15:36 schreef Paul Allen :
> On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 at 14:05, s8evq wrote:
>
>>
>> On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 20:00:32 +0100, Paul Allen
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Does it have to be signposted as a walking route?
>>
that OsmAnd cannot navigate me along an ÒSM route that's shown on
the map and is readily available from OSM. Instead, I have to translate it
into a series of waypoints (gpx), then feed that to the app, and then it
recalculates the route (chain of ways) it already had.
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op za
profiles for OSM-routes. I would like a gpx from an OSM route to be direcly
usable in navigation apps and devices and reasonably adaptible as one route
in route editing software (without spikes and ordering problems).
Fr gr Peter Elderson
Op za 17 aug. 2019 om 13:33 schreef Andy Townsend :
>
Op za 17 aug. 2019 om 12:31 schreef Andy Townsend :
> > but I would like to see one make a plausible navigation route out of the
> E2 Yorkshire relation as it is now.
>
> Where are you going from and where are you going to? Without that
> information "make a plausible navigation route out of the
relation.
Fr gr Peter Elderson
Op za 17 aug. 2019 om 12:31 schreef Andy Townsend :
> > but I would like to see one make a plausible navigation route out of the
> E2 Yorkshire relation as it is now.
>
> Where are you going from and where are you going to? Without that
> information
. For rendering, it’s ok
like it is. For routing, not at all. Cycling planners are slightly better than
hiking planners, but I would like to see one make a plausible navigation route
out of the E2 Yorkshire relation as it is now.
And yes, that’s a challenge.
Fr Gr Peter Elderson
> Op 17 aug. 2019 om
wil actually
have followed the E2 as well, I'll give you that!
Fr gr Peter Elderson
Op za 17 aug. 2019 om 03:16 schreef Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>:
> My limited experience;
>
> Gaps on the gpx route tend to be straight lines, ok when they are
> contiguous but where they
about
all the things that makes sorting impossible.
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op vr 16 aug. 2019 om 21:05 schreef Richard Fairhurst :
> Peter Elderson wrote:
> > I think it's fair to say there is almost no software that does
> > anything with route relations except rendering and exporti
Op vr 16 aug. 2019 om 10:59 schreef Andy Townsend :
> On 16/08/2019 08:50, Peter Elderson wrote:
> > Josm of course. Is there another relation editor that can handle large
> nested route relations spanning up to say 4000 Km?
>
> P2 can, at least. Other people seem to su
op because of the trouble it causes.
Fr gr Peter Elderson
Op vr 16 aug. 2019 om 09:56 schreef Jo :
> Peter, I think Martin's question comes from a misunderstanding. You
> probably meant the route relations were broken by someone editing before
> you. Martin seems to have understood that yo
Op vr 16 aug. 2019 om 01:58 schreef Martin Koppenhoefer <
dieterdre...@gmail.com>:
> The wiki is not consistent, as the definition says the tag
> junction=roundabout is describing
>
> “A road junction where the traffic goes around a non-traversable island
> and has right of way. “
>
> Hm. In
the change to each
relation and check again if all is well. When I am not in a hurry and the
affected relations have other gaps, I repair those as well.
Mvg Peter Elderson
> Op 16 aug. 2019 om 02:11 heeft Martin Koppenhoefer
> het volgende geschreven:
>
>
>
> sent from a phon
to maintain the road
network.
Mvg Peter Elderson
> Op 15 aug. 2019 om 23:14 heeft Sarah Hoffmann het volgende
> geschreven:
>
>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 04:50:26PM +0200, Peter Elderson wrote:
>> Sarah:
>>> There is relatively few software that can handle hierarchic
orted just yet).
An example of a type that is supported are "type=route" relations. *Here it
expects that the relation exists in one piece as a series of linked ways *-
only in this case you will get a OK rating."
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op do 15 aug. 2019 om 18:26 schreef Andy Townsen
in a navigation/trip-planning app. But I will have
another look. I mainly noticed in many walking routes that damage by ID
still occurs a lot.
Fr gr Peter Elderson
Op do 15 aug. 2019 om 18:12 schreef Paul Allen :
> On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 at 16:57, Peter Elderson wrote:
>
>> I do it
Op do 15 aug. 2019 om 17:54 schreef Andy Townsend :
>
> On 15/08/2019 16:18, Peter Elderson wrote:
> > Still most problems arise because ID edits damage routes.
>
> An unsorted route in OSM is not damaged. If your software cannot deal
> with unsorted routes then it cannot
I do it a lot. Take it from me and all other route maintainers - You can't
maintain long routes with ID.
Most of the damage is done by other things then deletion. E.g. shifting a
way, connecting ways, extending a way, shortening a way, closing a way,
cutting a way.
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op do
, but preserve, repair and maintain route relations cannot be done with
ID.
Fr gr Peter Elderson
Op do 15 aug. 2019 om 17:06 schreef Paul Allen :
> On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 at 15:38, Kevin Kenny wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 9:00 AM Andy Townsend wrote:
>> > > The ways in
Op do 15 aug. 2019 om 15:00 schreef Andy Townsend :
> On 15/08/2019 10:56, Peter Elderson wrote:
> > ... So the lowest level always contains only ways, the higher level
> contains only relations.
>
> Please don't make things more complicated than they need to be. Most
> h
elf to alter display of that relation, don't know.
If you have a subrelation which is part of multiple parent relations, roles
could conflict. Could be main route in one, excursion in another and link
in a third
Fr gr Peter Elderson
Op do 15 aug. 2019 om 13:57 schreef Sarah Hoffmann :
&
.
Mvg Peter Elderson
> Op 15 aug. 2019 om 01:37 heeft Paul Allen het volgende
> geschreven:
>
>> On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 at 00:13, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>
>> One hiking trail I know of the locals usually go bare foot, not only because
>> of
Where/to what exactly do you apply the role?
Mvg Peter Elderson
> Op 15 aug. 2019 om 01:20 heeft Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> het volgende
> geschreven:
>
> It would be usefull to document the method of including alternate, side
> trips and access tracks to these route
or datauser wants to be more specific, better to consider specific
attributes of the relation(s) and the ways it uses, to determine how to
render/categorize/filter the routes.
Fr gr Peter Elderson
Op di 13 aug. 2019 om 21:38 schreef s8evq :
> True, that's something that could be ad
I am all for harmonizing the wiki pages about walking routes. When that is
done, I would like to do the Dutch translation and discuss the tagging
scheme.
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op di 13 aug. 2019 om 10:52 schreef s8evq :
> Hello everyone,
>
> On the discussion page of the wiki ent
I guess next, someone will come up with another solution to replace both,
so we will have three solutuions. And then, someone...
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op di 13 aug. 2019 om 09:26 schreef Joseph Eisenberg <
joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>:
> Re: >On the wiki pages you can ignore / ov
That would be for the Australian mapping community to decide, to document and
to implement.
Mvg Peter Elderson
> Op 11 aug. 2019 om 23:08 heeft Graeme Fitzpatrick het
> volgende geschreven:
>
>
>
>> On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 at 05:04, Paul Johnson wrote:
>>> O
a few OSM-significant countries, I'm sure renderers,
mapping tools and checking tools will consider implementing it.
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op zo 11 aug. 2019 om 19:40 schreef Paul Johnson :
> On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:26 AM Joseph Eisenberg <
> joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
&
OT
"If we were to redesign the human body from
scratch it wouldn't have a recurrent laryngeal nerve, the epididymus would
take a
different route and the eyes wouldn't be wired backwards,..."
...and we would be born with wheels, wings and wifi...
Fr gr Pete
Good luck with that!
Mvg Peter Elderson
> Op 10 aug. 2019 om 11:59 heeft Julien djakk het
> volgende geschreven:
>
> Hello !
>
> I've been thinking about this for a long time.
>
> Classifying roads should be the same all over the world ! :O
>
> The highway tag
Elderson
Op do 8 aug. 2019 om 13:43 schreef Paul Allen :
> On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 12:18, Peter Elderson wrote:
>
>> To be practical, I think I will retag the clearly residential roads now
>> tagged as 'unclassified' in my town, to 'residential'. Some roads are now
>&g
the road by e.g. broad pedestrian pavements, parking lanes,
stretches of greenery, a row of trees, kerbs, and/or separate cycleways.
If e.g. a bus uses such a road I will retag it as unclassified. I would use
quaternary if I could be sure of rendering and routing, which I am not.
Vr gr Peter
I agree, but it also says don't expect it to be rendered or routed, it's a
fixme error. Mappers have used and will use 'unclassified' because they
want rendering and routing without bothering about the classification.
Fr gr Peter Elderson
Op ma 5 aug. 2019 om 09:56 schreef Warin <61sun
and a lot of other public roads, brushed together as a
rest category of "other roads". If we classify in the database, that's
'unclassified' or quaternary for me. Then residential roads/areas are
mostly entered through those.
As it stands, routing/navigating is not that bad, probably because
obably solve the issue.
Of course this will never happen. No consensus, too much work.
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op zo 4 aug. 2019 om 20:58 schreef Dave Swarthout :
> Peter wrote:
> My research tells me ‘unclassified’ means classified as ‘unclassified‘,
> which is a class of road in the public
’.
Mvg Peter Elderson
> Op 4 aug. 2019 om 16:23 heeft Martin Koppenhoefer
> het volgende geschreven:
>
>
>
> sent from a phone
>
>> On 4. Aug 2019, at 15:37, Florian Lohoff wrote:
>>
>> A residential is also an unclassified road.
>
>
>
ym to document the date when total disagreement was reached, the number of
days that took and how many mails were sent?
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op ma 29 jul. 2019 om 08:49 schreef Tobias Zwick :
> One or several wiki edits should stand at the end of every tagging
> discussion, to do
Nederland: not Kreek, but Mui. Suatiegeul is officially correct but I have
never heard or seen it IRL.
Mvg Peter Elderson
> Op 24 jul. 2019 om 04:31 heeft Joseph Eisenberg
> het volgende geschreven:
>
> The voting period has ended for
> Proposed_features/Tag:waterway=tidal_
I would say some indication of the purpose of the terrain should be
present. E.g. Power infra, lineage, a stage area, signs, lots of things can
indicate that the area is often used and/or dedicated to a variety of
events.
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op vr 19 jul. 2019 om 15:21 schreef Marc Gemis
Hm.. village_common still says village, where often these areas are no
longer in a village.
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op vr 19 jul. 2019 om 00:42 schreef Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>:
> As Kevin Kenny says.
>
> The key 'landuse' is big misused for land covers.
>
> A
function as "village green" in the neighourhood. Let's join the
countries that already do this.
I would also gladly help retagging areas wrongly tagged as village_green.
It's used a lot but nothing we couldn't fix in a project, if we agree on a
clear convention.
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op
That's what I meant.
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op zo 14 jul. 2019 om 15:29 schreef Martin Koppenhoefer <
dieterdre...@gmail.com>:
>
>
> sent from a phone
>
> > On 14. Jul 2019, at 10:15, Peter Elderson wrote:
> >
> > From the air you commonly see rows of ho
he gardens
different than the residential area. Access and use is mostly restricted,
but that doesn't change the leisure function. You could discern types and
qualities. I wouldnt go that far myself.
When planning recreational routes, this would help me decide which areas to
include.
Vr gr Peter Elders
I'm fine with leisure=garden for private/common/public gardens
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op vr 12 jul. 2019 om 07:24 schreef Pee Wee :
> Hi all
>
>
> I would like your opinion on the next issue.
>
>
> On the Dutch forum (googletranslate
> <https://translate.google.com/tra
tourism=register looks fine to me!
Fr gr Peter Elderson
Op wo 26 jun. 2019 om 11:25 schreef Mateusz Konieczny <
matkoni...@tutanota.com>:
>
>
>
> 26 Jun 2019, 10:54 by 61sundow...@gmail.com:
>
> Hi,
>
> On some hiking trail there are log books, usually at the star
that
there is data and that the data is complete, correct and verifiable at any
given time.
How will you go about that?
Fr gr Peter Elderson
Op vr 21 jun. 2019 om 04:43 schreef Emily Eros :
> Hi mailing list,
>
> Kerb/curb management has become a hot topic for city governments and
&g
You can use your OSM account to access the osm-forum
https://forum.openstreetmap.org/
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op vr 21 jun. 2019 om 06:26 schreef Graeme Fitzpatrick <
graemefi...@gmail.com>:
>
>
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 20:01, Frederik Ramm wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>
It’s a case for wheelchair mappers then?
Mvg Peter Elderson
> Op 20 jun. 2019 om 09:27 heeft Martin Koppenhoefer
> het volgende geschreven:
>
>
>
> sent from a phone
>
>> Am 20.06.2019 um 08:32 schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> If
almost all
crossings have a route with lowered sections.
So I think wheelchair=yes is not very useful over here. Wheelchair=no would
make more sense, although I think most people would take their chances
anyway.
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op wo 19 jun. 2019 om 10:26 schreef Mark Wagner :
> On Tue, 18 J
+1
Mvg Peter Elderson
> Op 18 jun. 2019 om 16:38 heeft marc marc het
> volgende geschreven:
>
>> Le 18.06.19 à 16:28, Andreas Lattmann a écrit :
>> mountain trails for disabled people
>
> map the mountain trails as usual (way and/or relation)
> and add wheel
or or just ignore it.
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op di 11 jun. 2019 om 11:49 schreef Tomas Straupis :
> > I find very strange that reservoir is a landuse by itself
> > it would be a bit like putting landuse=rest on a bench
> > or landuse=stop on a parking lot.
> > <.
irrigates. If it rains exactly the amount that evaporates and leaks, the
system just holds water. In the meantime you can use the bigger ditches and
canals for human things like boating, fishing and small transport.
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op di 4 jun. 2019 om 16:36 schreef François Lacombe
ts wastewater.
usage=* does not have meaning for most of these waterways. Flow direction
vary. You do want to know if it's accessible/allowed for
rowboats/motorboats/canoes.
And maybe if you can cross them with a jumping-pole. Very important in some
areas.
Fr gr Peter Elderson
Op di 4 jun. 2019 om 12
> Op 3 jun. 2019 om 15:02 heeft Florian Lohoff het volgende
> geschreven:
>
>> On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 11:11:50AM +0200, Peter Elderson wrote:
>> LS
>> I agree that email is not the best tool for discussions. The main thing for
>> me is that the world of
(which I am not even allowed to do on many of them). Moderating a forum is
also much easier.
So I would be very much in favour of moving to the forum.
Vr gr Peter Elderson
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ht
bejct a could have
many navaid relations? Or one relation containing all nodes, with roles for
transport mode?
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op wo 22 mei 2019 om 10:02 schreef Florian Lohoff :
> On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 08:31:03AM +1000, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> > On Wed, 22 May 2019 at 0
over a legal restriction.
I'm perfectly fine with oneway=yes, and determining the direction from the
order of ways in the relation.
Remains the problem that the order in the relations is unreliable, many are
unsortable, so in many cases the direction cannot be determined.
Vr gr Peter Elderson
I guess one problem has been fixed, but many still remain.
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op vr 3 mei 2019 om 19:04 schreef Paul Allen :
> On Fri, 3 May 2019 at 17:39, Sarah Hoffmann wrote:
>
> Most editors are quite good at keeping route order these days (iD has
>> looong ago been fix
would say you need at least 95% correct.
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op vr 3 mei 2019 om 18:39 schreef Sarah Hoffmann :
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, May 03, 2019 at 01:24:49PM +0100, Andy Townsend wrote:
> > Seriously, hoever wrote that section of that wiki page
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org
. If an edit breaks something important, it shouldn't be
accepted, or it should be automatically repaired.
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op vr 3 mei 2019 om 16:31 schreef :
> I prefer that those complete newbies get to mess with only 1 or 2 members
> of route relations, at the relatively small
You prefer routes to stay unordered? Or that edits damage routes?
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op vr 3 mei 2019 om 16:08 schreef :
>
> >>> For a non-roundtrip route consiting of two consecutive ways the route
> >>> direction can be deduced from the order of the ways in the
gr Peter Elderson
Op vr 3 mei 2019 om 15:55 schreef :
> cycle.travel appears to try to follow cycle routes as much as possible.
> It respects road attributes
>
> Peter Elderson skrev den 03.05.2019 15:13:
>
> This one seems to map routes to ways, and it knows the attrib
Also, it does route to produce a track, but then to use it for navigation
you transfer the gpx to your device, which then does the actual routing.
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op vr 3 mei 2019 om 15:13 schreef Peter Elderson :
> This one seems to map routes to ways, and it knows the attribu
if it
did...
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op vr 3 mei 2019 om 14:55 schreef Andy Townsend :
> On 03/05/2019 13:36, Peter Elderson wrote:
> > Routers look at the ways, not the routes.
>
> Immediately I can think of at least one major exception for that
> (cycle.travel). I suspect that th
in the route relation as first and
second.
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op vr 3 mei 2019 om 13:44 schreef Andy Townsend :
>
> On 03/05/2019 12:21, s8evq wrote:
> > But what's the alternative then?
> >
>
> Explicit start and/or finish nodes?
>
> As previously mentioned, you s
+1
Id and Potlach edits damage routes. JOSM edits damage the routes as well,
but JOSM allows the user to prevent/detect/analyse/repair the damage while
editing. Still, it's a shaky system, can't rely on it for data use.
Op vr 3 mei 2019 om 12:59 schreef :
>
>
> Hufkratzer skrev den 02.05.2019
at an asphalt road. The asphalt looks fine to me, nice and
smooth. There is no label attached to the surface. What would the noise
level be? Mm can't tell. Don't have a noisometer. Next!
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op vr 3 mei 2019 om 10:14 schreef Martin Koppenhoefer <
dieterdre...@gmail.
Whenever the quali ...-reducing is used, I know the stuff or thing actually
produces ... where ... is bad.
Mvg Peter Elderson
> Op 2 mei 2019 om 23:52 heeft Paul Allen het volgende
> geschreven:
>
>> On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 22:43, Tobias Wrede wrote:
>
>> I w
; relation, and route_segment
should indicate what is so special about this route relation.
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op di 23 apr. 2019 om 09:47 schreef Sarah Hoffmann :
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 11:47:35PM +0200, Peter Elderson wrote:
> > Long walking routes often have a main ro
for bird breeding season, for
highwater, for people with dogs, closure after dark, and wheelchair
alternatives. Most of these were not usually waymarked and mapped, but the
operators are increasingly waymarking those so I want to map it.
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op di 23 apr. 2019 om 00:05 schreef
tional=yes, approach=yes. A tag that covers all the variants, I can't
think of a suitable word.
the other way around: main_route=no?
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I reacted to the comparison with a bridge.
I guess there will be no consensus.
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op wo 17 apr. 2019 om 12:19 schreef Mateusz Konieczny <
matkoni...@tutanota.com>:
>
>
>
> Apr 17, 2019, 11:21 AM by pelder...@gmail.com:
>
> So where a cycleway crosses
So where a cycleway crosses a road with a dedicated crossing:
* the crossing section has nodes on each side indicating where the crossing
physically begins and ends;
* the crossing section is tagged highway=cycleway, crossing=yes
Correct?
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op wo 17 apr. 2019 om 05:50
not part of a route. It just happens to be near.
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op za 13 apr. 2019 om 20:52 schreef Martin Koppenhoefer <
dieterdre...@gmail.com>:
>
>
> sent from a phone
>
> > On 13. Apr 2019, at 12:06, Volker Schmidt wrote:
> >
> > But your exampl
all areas have been processed. In that case I would want
to map "no landcover" as opposed to "not mapped yet". Alternatively, I
would mark areas with a separate tag as "not yet included in the project".
d. In all cases, other mappers can and will alter the tagging if
for one would be very interested to compare
your data against the current landcover mapping of The Netherlands. For
deforestation, sure, but more so for urbanization.
If you push different use of current tags, mappers will turn against it,
revert your changes, and your project will fail.
Fr gr Peter
the higher relation(s), the mapper doesn't know that (s)he was the
last user, so will not modify the segent relation.
Fr gr Peter Elderson
Op za 16 mrt. 2019 om 08:25 schreef Sarah Hoffmann :
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 02:43:03PM +0100, Peter Elderson wrote:
> > I like Sarah's pro
Looks good.
Vr gr Peter Elderson
Op vr 15 mrt. 2019 om 21:05 schreef seirra blake <
sophietheopos...@yandex.com>:
> key: *almost all tagging should occur here* | *data may be reused in
> parent* | *data may be reused in parent and any 'adjacent' (with the same
> letter) pare
The just-a-chain-of-ways relation doesn't have to be shared. It's
shareable, but the sharing really is of no consequence.
I think software needs a tag to control the selection for the purpose it
serves, OR allow any route relation without a type within all route types
it supports.
I would indeed
would need any special tag to indicate it's shared. If
it's used more than once, it's shared, right?
Fr gr Peter Elderson
Op vr 15 mrt. 2019 om 15:38 schreef seirra blake <
sophietheopos...@yandex.com>:
> I can see *a lot* of shared routes in my area because most of the buses
> heavil
nd.
Fr gr Peter Elderson
Op vr 15 mrt. 2019 om 15:24 schreef Martin Koppenhoefer <
dieterdre...@gmail.com>:
>
>
> sent from a phone
>
> > On 15. Mar 2019, at 14:43, Peter Elderson wrote:
> >
> > I like Sarah's proposal too, especially for walking routes. I'm
, but I would like to see
that solved too.
Fr gr Peter Elderson
Op vr 15 mrt. 2019 om 14:26 schreef Richard Fairhurst :
> marc marc wrote:
> > imho nearly no routing tools (nor foot nor bus) is currently
> > able to use a relation type=route with relations as child.
>
> cycle.tr
t;
It's useful for longer routes through walking/cycling node networks, using
the network signposting.
Fr gr Peter Elderson
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You may want to look at this project:
http://geacron.com/the-geacron-project/
The tool can display/browse historical geo-data as year-to-year browseable
maps. There probably are other tools out there, mayebe even osm-based.
(This is where the real experts kick in...)
Fr gr Peter Elderson
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tic review according to satellite imagery.
Of course, other datausers will be able to use the data for rendering if
they see fit.
Since it's about changes in the course of time, how do you plan to record
and display the changes? Yearly datasets?
Fr gr Peter Elderson
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