That’s how it often goes with some new things.
At least JAWS has a kind of equivalent method that can be employed if you like
the f8 method. True, not the same keystrokes, but, it does achieve pretty much
the same thing.
Just shows how folks can get used to, then embrace something they first
You would be correct Chris that was all I heard.
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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Chris G via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:50 PM
To: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Subject: Re: Jaws and
Original Message
From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 5:11 PM EST
To: 'David Moore'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Jaws and copy text question
I tell you, the Window-Eyes method for copying text is less cumbersome.
Wow,
Hi Neville,
Try pressing Windows-M twice.
Hth,
Rod
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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Neville via Talk
Sent: May 26, 2017 7:32 PM
To: Jim via Talk
Subject: Re: Jaws and desktop
Hi,
Yes, you'll hear it when he unloads and reloads Jaws.
On 5/26/2017 5:21 PM, Neville via Talk wrote:
Hi,
I'll have to go back and listen to Raul's tute, possibly number 2, again
because I think there is a sound heard when he closed Jaws.
Neville.
On 27/05/2017 3:28 AM, brice Mijares via Talk
you can have a sound for opening and closing programs. That wouldn't be
jaws specific though.
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I know many people including me, who have a desktop and still use the laptop
layout for JAWS, because you gain a lot of extra commands that are easier to
perform than always using the numpad, plus, you gain the caps lock. For
example, try this command using the numpad LOL! To look up a word
Hi,
I'll have to go back and listen to Raul's tute, possibly number 2, again
because I think there is a sound heard when he closed Jaws.
Neville.
On 27/05/2017 3:28 AM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote:
Thanks for the info Chris.
On 5/26/2017 9:46 AM, Chris G via Talk wrote:
I don't think that
Hi,
If you have zt 10 installed, you will have to remove it to get 11 to work. that
is taken from the fs cast from 140. Hth.
Matthew
On May 26, 2017 3:00:36 PM EDT, Joseph Norton via Talk
wrote:
>Hi there:
>
>I may be able to help, to a point.
>
>Just for the
Hi,
My original question on this thread was how to close a programme and
give focus to the desktop while using Jaws and have speech.
Upon exiting a programme like Thunderbird with alt F4, where Window-Eyes
gave focus to the Desktop with speech, Jaws does not. Well, on my system
anyway. The
If it only costs you $200 to upgrade I would do that.
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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:01 PM
To: James Wohlgamuth; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re:
Zt fusion home is $1200 and sma is $200, pro is $1500 and $300 sma. Yes,
there's a demo that runs for 40 minutes at a time here:
https://www.zoomtext.com/products/zoomtext-fusion/
"the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised
night has just begun, so sing with me we're
Now that was truly hilarious Olusegun. Even though I hate the death of
Window-Eyes, I really enjoyed your message. Of course, this could be in bad
taste, but I wish it had been the biggest giant instead because I realize
after taking it for a spin for a day or so just how powerful Window-Eyes
On my computer, and it's getting to where I am afraid to post anything,
the number on the outside of the folder, at least for me, using
Thunderbird, indicates the number of unread messages. Once I delete
messages, I (because I have multiple accounts) shift tab to the folder
list and right
Ain't it nice that Window-Eyes is finally announcing its own obituary? I
know it does take a while to bury a giant, especially when so many friends,
family, and well wishers are expected to show up at the funeral. Hmm, sleep
well Window-Eyes! Everything does die after a fashion, it's your turn,
Well, my laptop has a full-size keyboard; so, on the NumPad, I turn off the
NumLock and use the 0 key as the Insert key. I'd only need to use the
CapsLock as a modified Insert key if my laptop DOES NOT have regular
computer keyboard. In essence, whether on a laptop, or on a desktop
computer, I
Hi there Folks!
It seem as though after deleting messages from particular boxes, the
message number doesn't seem to change. For example, I have a box called
important. Let say there is 100 messages in this box and I decide to
delete 20 of them. When I shift tab back to the important box Jaws
Hi there folks!
Was wondering what the cost of Zoom text or Zoom text fusion is? I do
have some usable vision, and would like to give fusion a try. Is there
a trial version of this program? THANKS! de
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Hi there:
I may be able to help, to a point.
Just for the heck of it, I’m going to install Fusion 10 and then see what
happens if I put the new version on top of it. I’m a glutton for punishment.
I’ll report back.
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From: Reeva Webb via Talk
Sent: Friday, May
Ok, saw new jaws version of zoomtext fusion was released yesterday. I
brought this up out here, attempted to email doug geoffray (sorry if i
spelled last name wrong) email address that he emailed the list with and it
came back as undeliverable. Also wrote using contact form on vfo website
but
But that may be the easiest way to notify most, if not all, WE users.
On 5/26/2017 9:31 AM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
> It's not any development. The ap was what contained the end of life
> message. That's why I say they didn't have to do that. Pam.
>
> -Original Message-
Thanks for the info Chris.
On 5/26/2017 9:46 AM, Chris G via Talk wrote:
I don't think that is an option in JAWS.
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it depends on what is opened on the screen.
have someone watch while you do it.
try this with the w e control panel or a jaws settings screen opened while wlm
is opened. windows m will minimize the wlm screen but the w e control screen or
jaws settings screen will still be opened. if you use
Hi Mike,
Here are my notes on Outlook:
How to configure Window-Eyes for use with Outlook
It needs to be emphasized that these steps must be done in the ordre listed.
First, install the set files for the most current version of Office or whatever
version of Office you are using.
This is done
While in the inbox, go to the View Ribbon , then tab a few times to the
Arrangement group, then once more to the Reverse Sort, button. If you are not
already viewing your inbox in date order, you will first need to go to the
button just before this and select the Arrange by Date option.
Hi Marvin,
Who knows why?
Thanks,
Rod
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Marvin Commerford via Talk
Sent: May 26, 2017 11:28 AM
To: Rod Hutton via Talk
Subject: Re: Jaws hot key
Hi Brenda,
Thanks,
Rod
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Brenda via Talk
Sent: May 26, 2017 11:19 AM
To: Rod Hutton via Talk
Subject: Re: Jaws hot key undefined after update
Yep,
Hi Don,
Ah, you're brilliant!
That's what I'll do.
Thanks,
Rod
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Don H via Talk
Sent: May 26, 2017 9:22 AM
To: brice Mijares via Talk
Subject: Re:
Hi Steve,
I simply responded to the prompt to update when Jaws launches.
Thanks,
Rod
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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson via Talk
Sent: May 26, 2017 10:07 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Nk there GUYS!
I just tried both the 'windows+d as well as the 'windows+m' and they
both minimized the current program. So I guess you both are correct!
Just thought I would let you know. Catch Ya Later! de .
On 26-May-17 12:21, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
I was taught that
Press Jaws key+6 to get into settings center, press ctr+shift+d to use the
default configuration. Type the letters l a b into the edit box. Tab over and
press Space on the Key Label result. A dialog will open showing you a list of
all the keys you can change labels for. For example, you can
I don't think that is an option in JAWS.
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Hello everyone,
Whenever I open a message in outlook, it opens in plain text mode, and when
I try to navigate line by line, window-eyes keeps reading the current line
only. As a result, I am not able to navigate through the text of the message
with the up and down arrow keys. Is there anything I
I was taught that it was exactly the opposite of what you say. That windows
key minimizes things when you go to the desktop, and windows key doesn't.
Pam.
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From: net bat via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:24 AM
To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject:
I forgot to mention, using Jaws.
On 5/26/2017 8:58 AM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote:
How do we go about silencing these keys when hitting them? Thanks.
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Hi, It just replaced the orginal Icon on my desktop. I had never changed
the name. My hotkey was then undefined again.
-Original Message-
From: Don H via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:22 AM
To: brice Mijares via Talk
Subject: Re: Jaws hot key undefined after update
I had
Hi,
I am using Microsoft Outlook 2007. I want to have messages sorted the
oldest first to the newest.
How do I do this?
I forgot.
Using Jaws 18 and Windows 10 creator edition.
Pastor Gil
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the correct key is windows d. not windows m. windows m will not minimize things
like dialog boxes that may be opened in a program. windows d will minimize
everything.
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From: Don H via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:37 AM
To: Neville via Talk
Subject: Re: Jaws and
That is exactly what it is. There are no updates, just the message that we
is history. Pam.
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From: Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:37 AM
To: Nick Sarames ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: End of Life Message
What does this update do
That's how they do! It's always been that way so why should they adjust
what they do? Their installation rewrites the shortcut even if one
already exists. In my opinion this is just lazy on the JFW's team's
part. How hard would it be for them to check for an existing shortcut
and at least
Using Window-Eyes with TB I get unread. Once it is read it just says
the message header. I forget what Jaws does.
Brenda
On 5/26/2017 10:53 AM, Don H via Talk wrote:
It seems that the read and unread notification doesn't work with WE or
Jaws or Nvda. Usjually a message will have the
Yep, every time I do a Jaws update I have to reassign the J in the
shortcuts menue using Window-eyes.
Not sure why VFO does it this way. It is a real pain.
brenda
On 5/26/2017 7:44 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
Hi,
Has anyone had the experience that the hot key we had probably all set up
It seems that the read and unread notification doesn't work with WE or
Jaws or Nvda. Usjually a message will have the indication of a
attachment. To get to the attachments go to the menu under messages and
arrow down to attachments.
On 5/26/2017 8:38 AM, Pastor Gil Pries via Talk wrote:
Hi,
This did hhhappen to me a!lso
On Fri, 26 May 2017 11:44:59 + Rod Hutton via Talk
writes:
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone had the experience that the hot key we had probably all
> set up in the Jaws desktop shortcut is removed after an update?
> This happened to mine
Rod,
Did you use the procedure to update JAWS or did you just run the latest
installation file? I tend to run the latest installation file because I can
download it once and run it on multiple computers without the need to have
each computer download the update. When I do that, I loose the hot
If using window eyes, yes on first question, and for attachments, alt M
and arrow down to attachments. So far using Jaws with limited use, it
will tell you read or unread, but I can't get it to tell me what message
Good Luck.number it is. For instance, one of 40.
On 5/26/2017 6:38 AM, Pastor
Hi:
Actually, you won’t be able to tab to the volume setting for eloquence since it
is greyed out.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:07 AM
To: Andre; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Is it possible to change the pitch of
Hi,
I have 2 Thunderbird questions.
The first one is does Thunderbird indicate email unread, read, reply, and
attachment?
Second question is how do you get to attachments in Thunderbird?
Thanks,
Pastor Gil
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It's not any development. The ap was what contained the end of life
message. That's why I say they didn't have to do that. Pam.
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From: Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 6:16 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: End of Life Message
I had changed the name of the desktop icon to just say Jaws so when I
did the update a new desktop icon for jaws was created. The old renamed
one was still there and still had the hot key in place. The new icon
added by the update did not have a hot key assigned. So I would say
that the
Actually, the volume setting is also in the same screen. It is the next
tab after you set the pitch control. Now, for something nice, though,
they did include hot keys for changing the speed. Increase and decrease
for temporary use is alt-page up and alt-page down. To make permanent
Yes, I had to reset it.
On 5/26/2017 4:44 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
Hi,
Has anyone had the experience that the hot key we had probably all set up in
the Jaws desktop shortcut is removed after an update?
This happened to mine after the recent update.
It makes sense, of course, since I
I have this happen, after every update. You have to go in and re-sset it each
time you get the update.
www.harmonicaworkshops.com
On Fri, 26 May 2017 11:44:59 +
Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone had the
Hi Carol,
Technically, the shortcut was replaced by a new one which doesn't have the hot
key defined.
Thanks,
Rod
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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: May 26, 2017 8:09 AM
To:
Hi Carol,
Yes, it is simply an update to the Windows Enhance app with no other
improvement than to tell us about the end of life of our favorite screen reader.
Hth,
Rod
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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Carol
MY JAWS HOT KEE WENT AWAY TOO.
At 06:55 AM 5/26/2017, you wrote:
Hi Rod i did not have that happen.
My WE short cut key is still their.
You have to create a short cut key for jaws.
Cheers Michael.
-Original Message- From: Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:44 PM
To:
Hi Rod,
Yes, this did happen to me. I just figured it was my computer that
forgot it since it has already asked me twice before to confirm that I
am the administrator. So, I set it again and it has been fine since.
Take care,
Carol
On 5/26/2017 7:44 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
Hi,
Hi Rod i did not have that happen.
My WE short cut key is still their.
You have to create a short cut key for jaws.
Cheers Michael.
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From: Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:44 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Jaws hot key undefined after
Hi,
Has anyone had the experience that the hot key we had probably all set up in
the Jaws desktop shortcut is removed after an update?
This happened to mine after the recent update.
It makes sense, of course, since I guess the icon got updated as well.
I'm just wondering if this happened to
What does this update do for Window-Eyes? In other words, is it just to
inform us that WE is finished with updates or does it actually make some
type of improvements? Thanks. I would like to know the anser to this
question before I allow it to install.
Carol
On 5/26/2017 4:58 AM, Nick
Hi Don:
Looks like you came across the Window-Eyes end-of-life message. It
comes up after the latest "update" to the WE Diag app. It will come
up every time you restart Window-Eyes unless you check the box that
says, "don't show again" or something like that.
On 5/26/17, Don Smith via Talk
Hi Joseph,
You're brilliant. That worked! I just press CTRL+Home, and then I can read the
message that was not reading on opening it. I can either do read all with
CTRL+SHIFT+R or just arrow line by line down.
I thought I had accidentally discovered this myself when first encountering the
Morning all:
Ok, I must have had a dream
I started my computer this morning and up came a great bunch of links with
podcasts about jaws and we migration.
All kinds of linksand I think it must have been a web page created by jaws
for us we users.
Was it from an we info file or from jaws,
Well, it looks like, when I open the next message that won’t read, I don’t have
to press ctrl+end. I can just press ctrl+home, WE says “Top” then, the message
will read.
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I figure they’re trying to hit all WE users, just in case they couldn’t contact
some by Email.
I, too, was surprised by an update message, but, then saw why that update was
sent. This, made me a little sad when I read the message. Probably was Doug
or someone else at VFO, who came from GW,
Hi Ramona:
I did find a work-around, of sorts. Please try this for me since I’d like to
know if it works for someone else besides me.
What I found is pretty much the same as you already observe. However, here’s
what I did.
When opening the first message, as you noticed, it worked. When
Alison, just check the box and you will no longer see the promp.
On 5/26/2017 4:10 AM, CJ MAY via Talk wrote:
> Because I share my pc with my sighted husband, we are continually switching
> Window-eyes on and off and each time, at the moment, that we switch it back
> on, we get the End of Life
Thanks Sandra,
In fact that was very helpful because it confirms to me that I am not doing
something wrong.
It is a strange glitch.
I am going to see if the MS Accessibility folk have any advice.
I do use an Outlook account for two of my other email accounts and I might
end up using it for my
Hi Ian,
My account in Mail was set up for me by a sighted person. So I do not know
if I would have had access issues doing that or not. However, someone on the
ATUG list who is VI was able to set it up with WE and so I think maybe it
can be done with WE.
I am further down the track than that in
Because I share my pc with my sighted husband, we are continually switching
Window-eyes on and off and each time, at the moment, that we switch it back
on, we get the End of Life Message.
Alison
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Net Bat, I am using W10 Home with all updates.
Alt tab does nothing as regards bringing back the speech when returning
to the Desktop. Maybe I have been spoiled by years of WE because it
always automatically gave focus to the Desktop after leaving a programme.
Neville.
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