RE: Windows screen readers

2017-04-06 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 4:32 PM To: net bat <net...@comcast.net>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: Windows screen readers Speaking of those things I don't like on the

Re: Windows screen readers

2017-04-06 Thread Tony C via Talk
Subject: Re: Windows screen readers Hi Don: I have run into that situation, I use my bluetooth keyboard and I use the VO-right and left arrows to arrow between the numbers. Of course, you have to do this quickly so that it doesn't time out, but it has worked for me a majority of the time

Re: Windows screen readers

2017-04-06 Thread Tony C via Talk
- From: Donald L. Roberts via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 3:31 PM To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Windows screen readers Speaking of those things I don't like on the iPhone, how about when you make a phone call into an automated system where you have to type more

Re: Windows screen readers

2017-04-06 Thread Kevin Huber via Talk
--Original Message- From: Rod Hutton via Talk >> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 11:12 AM >> To: Butch Bussen ; Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Subject: RE: Windows screen readers >> >> Hi Butch, >> >> I'm wondering what exactly it is about to

Re: Windows screen readers

2017-04-06 Thread Donald L. Roberts via Talk
: Thursday, April 06, 2017 11:12 AM To: Butch Bussen ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: Windows screen readers Hi Butch, I'm wondering what exactly it is about touch screens you don't like. I will admit that learning the gestures can take some time, but perhaps you never quite got the knack

Re: Windows screen readers

2017-04-06 Thread Tony C via Talk
You can however use the I could to store files. -Original Message- From: Evan Reese via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 1:46 PM To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Windows screen readers I know, and while I like my iPad Mini 4, and I've found a lot of fun

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2017-04-06 Thread Evan Reese via Talk
an SD card into it it to extend its capacity. Still, overall, it's a great machine with a lot of capabilities. Evan -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 2:31 PM To: Rod Hutton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Windows screen readers one thing i

Re: Windows screen readers

2017-04-06 Thread net bat via Talk
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: Windows screen readers Yes, but you get along with touch screens. some of us don't. Glad it works for you. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Thu, 6 Apr 2017, Russ Kiehne wrote: I took a lot of thime thinking about if I should get a secon

RE: Windows screen readers

2017-04-06 Thread Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk
w-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: RE: Windows screen readers Hi Butch, I'm wondering what exactly it is about touch screens you don't like. I will admit that learning the gestures can take some time, but perhaps you never quite got the knack of it, and so you ha

RE: Windows screen readers

2017-04-06 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
-eyes.com> Subject: Re: Windows screen readers Yes, but you get along with touch screens. some of us don't. Glad it works for you. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Thu, 6 Apr 2017, Russ Kiehne wrote: > I took a lot of thime thinking about if I should get a second generation

Re: Windows screen readers

2017-04-06 Thread Kevin Huber via Talk
; Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 8:11 AM >> To: steve.jacob...@visi.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Windows screen readers >> >> Could the difference between accessibility on a I phone or I Pad and a >> Mac book be that the phones and I pads are running the

Re: Windows screen readers

2017-04-06 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
: Butch Bussen Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2017 8:55 AM To: Russ Kiehne Cc: Tony C ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Windows screen readers Why do you think I have one of those? 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Wed, 5 Apr 2017, Russ Kiehne wrote: That is why they have the second

Re: Windows screen readers

2017-04-06 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
life than my first generation victor reader stream, booksense standard and plextalk pocket. -Original Message- From: Butch Bussen Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2017 8:55 AM To: Russ Kiehne Cc: Tony C ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Windows screen readers Why do you think I

RE: windows screen readers

2017-04-05 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
from now on. Thanks! Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2017 12:55 PM To: Steve Nutt; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: windows screen readers NVDA has or has had video hooks since late 2010 if I remember correctly. you can use the golden

RE: windows screen readers

2017-04-05 Thread via Talk
Discussion List' Subject: RE: windows screen readers NVDA has or has had video hooks since late 2010 if I remember correctly. you can use the golden cursor addon to mouse around like you can in jaws. Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On April 5, 2017 12:49:29 "Steve Nutt

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2017-04-05 Thread Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Well, I'm absolutely able to use my touchscreen phone when my fingers are cold with no problems. I even use it with gloves on too. Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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2017-04-05 Thread Josh Kennedy via Talk
NVDA has or has had video hooks since late 2010 if I remember correctly. you can use the golden cursor addon to mouse around like you can in jaws. Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On April 5, 2017 12:49:29 "Steve Nutt" wrote: Naah, no off

RE: windows screen readers

2017-04-05 Thread Steve Nutt via Talk
. via Talk Sent: 05 April 2017 05:32 To: joseph.nor...@gmail.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: RE: windows screen readers Probably the only truly free screen reader is NVDA! Whether or not one sends in a donation, anyone anywhere can download it, i

RE: windows screen readers

2017-04-05 Thread Steve Nutt via Talk
Naah, no off screen model, no video hooks. NVDA is not great if you have to mouse around, where apps don't have keyboard access. Yes, it has object view, but that's pretty poor. All the best Steve -Original Message- From: Talk

Re: Windows screen readers

2017-04-05 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Windows screen readers Yep, but that assumes you are comfortable with i phones and the like, touch screens and so forth, which I'm not. Just doesn't make sense to me. The thing most I phone users don't seem to understand is that it isn't easy for all of us

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2017-04-05 Thread Matthew Chao via Talk
- From: Butch Bussen via Talk Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 11:29 AM To: Tony C ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Windows screen readers Yep, but that assumes you are comfortable with i phones and the like, touch screens and so forth, which I'm not. Just doesn't make sense to me. The thing

Re: Windows screen readers

2017-04-05 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
That is why they have the second generation victor reader Stream! -Original Message- From: Butch Bussen via Talk Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 11:29 AM To: Tony C ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Windows screen readers Yep, but that assumes you are comfortable with i phones

Re: Windows screen readers

2017-04-05 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
pocket. -Original Message- From: Tony C via Talk Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 11:25 AM To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Windows screen readers Hi, The I pad mini 21, 2, or 3 are about the same. Fairly easy to learn. reasonalbely priced at about $230.00 Take it out

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2017-04-05 Thread Chris G via Talk
I'm confused on your statement: "These screen readers are not readily available to just about anyone to download, install and play with. It is of absolute necessity that a user MUST have in his or her possession a gadget that runs either one." Anyone can go to the play store and download

RE: windows screen readers

2017-04-04 Thread Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Probably the only truly free screen reader is NVDA! Whether or not one sends in a donation, anyone anywhere can download it, install it and use it to one's heart's content. All other screen readers, whether it be Talkback or VoiceOver, incur some cost however minimal such a cost might be. These

Re: Windows screen readers

2017-04-04 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
Tony C wrote: Hi, The I pad mini 21, 2, or 3 are about the same. Fairly easy to learn. reasonalbely priced at about $230.00 Take it out of the box turn it on turn on voice over and have fun. Depending on what you want to do this *may* be true. Otherwise, bear in mind that an app pretty much

RE: windows screen readers

2017-04-04 Thread via Talk
Hi: NVDA is probably the best free option for the PC. Narrator is still nowhere near as responsive as NVDA. On the Mac, VoiceOver is unbelievably responsive, considering the high-quality Alex speech synthesizer shipping with the Mac. It does take a learning curve, but, there is a tutorial

Re: windows screen readers

2017-04-04 Thread Tony C via Talk
I'm not tired of paying for screen readers. I'm tired of paying for screen readers that are out performed by free one's. -Original Message- From: Joshua Kennedy via Talk Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 5:26 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: windows screen readers hey tony

Re: Windows screen readers

2017-04-04 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
Discussion List Subject: Re: Windows screen readers Could the difference between accessibility on a I phone or I Pad and a Mac book be that the phones and I pads are running the mobile versions of a web site or ap and the Mac book isn't? I have been considering purchasing a I Pad but just don't know which

Re: Windows screen readers

2017-04-04 Thread Tony C via Talk
; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Windows screen readers Could the difference between accessibility on a I phone or I Pad and a Mac book be that the phones and I pads are running the mobile versions of a web site or ap and the Mac book isn't? I have been considering purchasing a I Pad

Re: Windows screen readers

2017-04-04 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
Don, I don't really know about web browsing on iOS because I seldom use it for that. I bought an iPad Pro 9.7 with the keyboard/case option, which is actually impressive for its size. I bought it with the thought that it could at least replace my old laptop for casual use. In general it's

Re: Windows screen readers

2017-04-04 Thread Matthew Chao via Talk
Also, the actual CONTENT may change, depending on whether you're using the Mac or a Windows PC. I've heard of instances in which those using Macs are steered towards higher-priced items (as Apples cost more, and, presumably that segment has no problem paying more) compare to PC users of that

Re: Windows screen readers

2017-04-04 Thread Don H via Talk
Could the difference between accessibility on a I phone or I Pad and a Mac book be that the phones and I pads are running the mobile versions of a web site or ap and the Mac book isn't? I have been considering purchasing a I Pad but just don't know which one to buy and wether it is really a