Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

Using Window-Eyes 9.5.4, I find that I can access most of WLM accept for the fact that for some unknown reason, my spellcheck is disabled and I don't know how to enable it. -Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 9:48 PM To: steve.jacob

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 10:11 AM To: Joseph Norton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net> Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts When you say "it should st

RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 10:11 AM To: Joseph Norton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net> Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts When you say "it should st

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

On 10/13/2017 9:26 AM, Joseph Norton via Talk wrote: Hi: This is insider build 16299, the Windows version is 1709. If they don't make any significant changes in the kernel, it should still give you some functionality with Window-Eyes. -Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne [mai

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

Great, it sounds like window eyes should work. I'll find out by the end of next week. I'll probably install it using the windows 10 ;upgrade assistant. -Original Message- From: joseph.nor...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 6:26 AM To: 'Russ Kiehne' ; 'Window-Eyes

RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

Hi: This is insider build 16299, the Windows version is 1709. If they don't make any significant changes in the kernel, it should still give you some functionality with Window-Eyes. -Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne [mailto:russ94...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 12

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

Next week Windows 10 Fall Creator's Edition, version 1709 will be released. Is that the version you now have? -Original Message- From: joseph.nor...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 8:31 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: 'Russ Kiehne' Subject: RE: Window-eyes

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

IN my case, window eyes works a lot better than nvda in windows live mail. The tripletalk usb addon for nvda doesn't support indexing. -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson via Talk Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 3:06 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Steve Jacobson

RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

Hi David, I'll try to answer your questions in context. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of David Moore via Talk Sent: October 11, 2017 6:02 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com&

RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

Hi Russ and listers: All I can say is that I am running window-eyes with the latest Windows 10 Insider build 16299 and no major problems. There are a couple issues where WE doesn't seem to read the screen when reviewing it. WE 9.54 still browses the Web ok, for the most part. Once the Fall

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

as accessible? Google says they are accessible. This is so great to be able to talk all technology on here! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 5:46 PM To: bjn...@windstream.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: RE: Window

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

by VFO to get GW first in order to become a part of the VFO family. Nothing will ever be proven As for jaws being better than NVDA, that may be a matter of opinion. I know an adaptive tech person that liked NVDA before Window-eyes was eliminated.  Maybe he suspected W-e was on the way out

RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

If we are going to be fair about this discussion, VFO can't just throw the Window-Eyes code into JAWS. I also think it is reasonable to keep in mind the fact that they really wanted ZoomText so probably didn't give a lot of thought about Window-Eyes. It's likely nobody cried at VFO over the idea

RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

to a ChromeBook. Is a ChromeBook as accessible? Google says they are accessible. This is so great to be able to talk all technology on here! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 5:46 PM To: bjn...@windstream.net; Window-Eyes

RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

alf Of Brenda via Talk Sent: October 11, 2017 3:02 PM To: Nick Sarames via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Cc: Brenda <bjn...@windstream.net> Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts I think crawling into a hole is a great idea. I'm really starting to hate computers. Brenda On 10/

RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

I think reserving Judgment until after the jaws 2018 cycle is complete and jaws2019 is out. You don't know what they have planned for the year. They may have had the first features planned for a while possible before the got window Eyes. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces

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an adaptive tech person that liked NVDA before Window-eyes was eliminated. Maybe he suspected W-e was on the way out. Nonetheless he said positive things about NVDA not jaws. As pointed out before it is good to have multiple screen readers. This is probably more necessary since Window-Eyes is waning

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

Hey Olusegun Keep me posted on your android success. I would like to avoid PCs but find them a necessity. I do simple things like web serfing, email and banking. I'm hoping an iPad willlet me do all these things safely, but not all apps are useable. I am trying to stay open to other

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

had the same 27 years as window eyes had  and it still doesn't work as good. i can't even pay my credit card with it. a web page that is suppose to be jaws compatible doesn't work. window eyes works fine. money talks. if gwmicro was the one that had all the money it would of been f s that would

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

I totally agreewith you. But it seems they seem to think they are so big and important they don't need anything from anybody else. Pam. -Original Message- From: Charles Adkins via Talk Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 6:40 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Charles Adkins

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

Unfortunately, they weren't willing to admit that there were people who knew how to do things better than they could. Pam. -Original Message- From: loy via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 2:06 PM To: Nick Sarames via Talk Cc: loy Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

And it's possible that the jaws users who have always used it like what is familiar and have never used window eyes to know what it does better. Pam. -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 1:42 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Nick

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

How does it compare to jaws? -Original Message- From: David Moore via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 6:45 PM To: ukekearu...@valtdnet.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: David Moore Subject: RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts Hi guys! Another paid screen reader is System

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

Well, you have next year to get jaws for $125.00 and a sma for $120.00 during the ACB and NFB conventions. -Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 6:05 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List ; ukekearu...@valtdnet.com Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: Re

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

Speaking of Window Eyes, does anyone happen to know if it will work with next weeks release of windows 10 fall update? -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 10:51 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: net bat Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

Adkins via Talk" < talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > let me make one thing clear, I am not bitter. I am not sure about what > merge is being talked about, Window-eyes was dropped, not merged with Jaws. > My point was Vfo had the chance to retain the best of Window-eyes and j

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

let me make one thing clear, I am not bitter. I am not sure about what merge is being talked about, Window-eyes was dropped, not merged with Jaws. My point was Vfo had the chance to retain the best of Window-eyes and jaws in both technology and people and produce one hell of a screen reader

RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

Hi Josh, As for Office support in NVDA, as I am subscribed to Office 365, and will be for the foreseeable future, I will be using NVDA to navigate it should Window-Eyes no longer suffice. I've been keeping my ear to the ground, though, and I know that Office support for NVDA is a high

RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 10:52 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: net bat Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts because f s had all the money to throw around to permote there products and to businesses and schools. few even heard of window eyes and were not willing to use a product

RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

Hi guys! Another paid screen reader is System Access from SeroTech! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 9:28 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. Subject: RE

RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

Tony, the death of Window-Eyes is what has gotten me to elect to abandon Windows completely and move everything over to both an Android tablet and a smartphone! I am a tad slow learning my tablet, but I will keep on with it until I beat it to submission. Business reasons also slow my move

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

. -Original Message- From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 4:14 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. Subject: RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts Tony, I seriously doubt that the law against monopoly apply

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

to Jaws, but I still find myself going back to WE for a lot of things. I'm gonna be sad when WE no longer works. -Original Message- From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 4:14 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Olusegun -- Victory

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

will be in about 2 weeks. f s has had the same 27 years as window eyes had  and it still doesn't work as good. i can't even pay my credit card with it. a web page that is suppose to be jaws compatible doesn't work. window eyes works fine. money talks. if gwmicro was the one that had all the money

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

Hi THERE! While I agree that Jaws could do more especially now that they have acquired Window-Eyes I haven't had a real issue with Jaws. I can read from the current line to the end of a document simply by pressing the 'insert+the down arrow key. I wonder what programs you are actually

RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

Tony, I seriously doubt that the law against monopoly apply in the access technology industry. If it does, it is a bit too late now. GW Micro is gone and I doubt if it can be revived. Besides, who truly want to spend endless hours in court? GW Micro went through that once, and I don't believe

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

What products for the disabled? -Original Message- From: Charles Adkins via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 2:00 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Charles Adkins Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts it doesn’t seem like they affect products for the disabled does

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

- From: Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 12:38 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Nick Sarames Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts The consensus seems to be that WE, overall, is better.  I have yet to use Jaws, but the more I read here, the more I realize that we

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

eeded. Now Jaws still doesn't work well with a lot of > very common programs. > > -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 12:42 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Nick Sarames > Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoug

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

No, but maybe Brainwashed. I quit using Jawws in 2004 because WE worked better with stuff I needed. Now Jaws still doesn't work well with a lot of very common programs. -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 12:42 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

It seems to me that by Jaws being the only "real" screen reader left, that would make VFO being a monopoly. There are laws about that??? -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 12:38 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Nick Sarames S

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

The reason there are so many JAWS users, is that government organizations bought them. Most Window Eyes users had to buy it themselves. JAWS is a good program, but for me it is loaded down with so much stuff that I don't need. I still use We most of the time, using JAWS trying to get use

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

because f s had all the money to throw around to permote there products and to businesses and schools. few even heard of window eyes and were not willing to use a product they never heard of. if they knew window eyes worked most of the time right out of the box without scripts years ago

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

you would think after 27 years f s programmers would know how to make jaws speak all of the status symbles in wlm. it can't even find the graphics for replied or attachments. no matter how many times i have tried to define these graphics. it just doesn't find them. window eyes had no truble

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

. Of course, that is a separate issue from other issues involving the overall stability of each reader. On 10/10/2017 8:33 AM, Chuck Adkins via Talk wrote: > Well, I've been using Jaws for a while now and I must confess the > Window-eyes was the much better product both in speed, browsing, >

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

I'll just craw into a hole. On 10/10/2017 1:33 PM, net bat via Talk wrote: > you might as well junk it now. > 2018 release will be in about 2 weeks. > f s has had the same 27 years as window eyes had  and it still doesn't > work as good. > i can't even pay my credit card with

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

you might as well junk it now. 2018 release will be in about 2 weeks. f s has had the same 27 years as window eyes had and it still doesn't work as good. i can't even pay my credit card with it. a web page that is suppose to be jaws compatible doesn't work. window eyes works fine. money talks

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

Have you tried edge with jaws as of yet? I've been playing around with it. Window eyes does work a lot better with windows live mail. -Original Message- From: Chuck Adkins via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 5:33 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Chuck Adkins Subject

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

the Window-eyes was the much better product both in speed, browsing, usability, layout, and so much more. Like on the Ohio Lottery Website, when reading the pick 5 Jaws will not scroll down continuously down the page like NVDA, Narrator, and Window-eyes do. I also find Window-eyes synthesizer support

Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

Well, I've been using Jaws for a while now and I must confess the Window-eyes was the much better product both in speed, browsing, usability, layout, and so much more. Like on the Ohio Lottery Website, when reading the pick 5 Jaws will not scroll down continuously down the page like NVDA, Narrator

Re: Spell Check with Window Eyes

[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf > Of Godiva Guerrero via Talk > Sent: October 8, 2017 8:28 PM > To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com > Cc: Godiva Guerrero <godivaaguerr...@gmail.com> > Subject: Spell Check with Window Eyes > > Hello All

RE: Spell Check with Window Eyes

Guerrero <godivaaguerr...@gmail.com> Subject: Spell Check with Window Eyes Hello All, I know how to use the "Spell Check" feature with WE, however I recently purchased an HP laptop and the "Application Key" does not function. Any suggestions? ___

Spell Check with Window Eyes

Hello All, I know how to use the "Spell Check" feature with WE, however I recently purchased an HP laptop and the "Application Key" does not function. Any suggestions? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and

Re: Window-Eyes error messages

Hello Tom, Thanks for the attachment. I'm surprised that the list allows attachments. Most of such lists don't. -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 12:57 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: peter Chin Subject: Re: Window-Eyes error messages

Re: Window-Eyes error messages

Kingston via Talk Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 11:14 AM To: Ian Westerland via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: Window-Eyes error messages Ian, Here's what I would do. Open the Window-Eyes control panel. Alt-A Apps. D Diagnostics. Refresh accessibility libraries. Reboot when prompted

Re: Window-Eyes error messages

Kingston Subject: Re: Window-Eyes error messages Ian, Here's what I would do. Open the Window-Eyes control panel. Alt-A Apps. D Diagnostics. Refresh accessibility libraries. Reboot when prompted. If that doesn't solve your problem go back into Diagnostics and run Repair Windows 10 display driver

Re: window-eyes open source?

no need. now that I know about VFO's jaws for fixed incomes program. jaws for $120 with 0 smas or jaws for $225 with 2 smas. On 9/14/2017 10:41 AM, Kevin Huber via Talk wrote: Hi: Also, if you wanted to make the Window-eyes code open source, you would have to wait 5 or 10 years until

Re: window-eyes open source?

Hi: Also, if you wanted to make the Window-eyes code open source, you would have to wait 5 or 10 years until the copywright expires, assuming there is a copywright, but by that time, the code would be so old that it would probably be totally useless. Kevin Huber On 9/12/17, Dennis Long via Talk

Re: Window-Eyes error messages

It will be interesting to find out if Window Eyes will work with next month's release of windows 10 creators fall edition? -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:20 PM To: Ian Westerland via Talk Cc: Tom Kingston Subject: Re: Window-Eyes

RE: Window-Eyes error messages

to make sure I hadn’t heard something weird. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: David via Talk Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:37 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: David Subject: Re: Window-Eyes error messages Besides, sending error reports, is nothing but useless. the error

Re: Window-Eyes error messages

Thank you Tom. I hadn't started looking for solutions as yet so I'll be following your ideas first up. i'll let you know the results. Cheers. Ian On 9/14/2017 1:14 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Ian, Here's what I would do. Open the Window-Eyes control panel. Alt-A Apps. D

Re: Window-Eyes error messages

Hello Tom. When I click on the "details" button there is often nothing under the details button. Other times saying that a problem occurred during start up preventing Window-Eyes from working. I am using the latest Window-Eyes and Windows 10, exactly the same system you are

Re: Window-Eyes error messages

Tom, sorry, I don't have the Windows 10 Pro, just the version automatically downloaded. On 9/14/2017 10:20 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: What error messages are you getting? I'm running Window-Eyes 9.5.4 on Windows 10 Pro 64 with the Creators update and haven't seen any. Regards

Re: Window-Eyes error messages

in any extra comments on the error report, simply just sending it, does generate net traffic, and will benefit NOONE. On 9/14/2017 2:20 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: > What error messages are you getting? > I'm running Window-Eyes 9.5.4 on Windows 10 Pro 64 with the Creators &g

Re: Window-Eyes error messages

What error messages are you getting? I'm running Window-Eyes 9.5.4 on Windows 10 Pro 64 with the Creators update and haven't seen any. Regards, Tom On 9/13/2017 5:21 PM, Ian Westerland via Talk wrote: Hello everyone. I am noticing many more error messages when Window=Eyes opens. This does

Window-Eyes error messages

Hello everyone. I am noticing many more error messages when Window=Eyes opens. This does not seem to be associatedd with anything in particular. The same response reports are still there so, even though I know there won't be a response, I am still sending them. Of course, this is going

Re: window-eyes open source?

y, September 11, 2017 3:09 AM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: David > Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? > > You know, I too am tempted to believe, NVDA will take over some screen > reader users. For one thing, as NVDA becomes yet more powerful, and > widely know

Re: window-eyes open source?

route mouse to object, insert shift m. read the current line, numPad 8, or capslock shift period. On 9/12/2017 5:51 PM, BK via Talk wrote: David, please let me know what the NVDA keyboard command is to route the mouse to the focused object is, and also the command to read the line under the

Re: window-eyes open source?

David, please let me know what the NVDA keyboard command is to route the mouse to the focused object is, and also the command to read the line under the mouse? thank you much. Butch -- BK ___ Any views or opinions presented in

RE: window-eyes open source?

Get real that wouldn't be able to be done! They couldn't afford to pay staff! -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 7:33 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc

Re: window-eyes open source?

insecure. IE 11, should only be used if it is an emergency! Have a great one! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: David via Talk Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 6:29 PM To: mcommerf...@comcast.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: David Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? Could

Re: window-eyes open source?

scripting under Jaws, that Jaws Scripting is by far limited in possibilities, compared to the extensive capabilities of Window-Eyes App Development. This all has to do with the amount of access the screen reader manufacturer grants his scripters. I might well have good ideas how to solve a given tas

Re: window-eyes open source?

: David via Talk Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 3:09 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: David Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? You know, I too am tempted to believe, NVDA will take over some screen reader users. For one thing, as NVDA becomes yet more powerful, and widely known

RE: window-eyes open source?

Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: David via Talk Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 6:29 PM To: mcommerf...@comcast.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: David Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? Could be a number of reasons, why the one screen reader works better than the other, in a given

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red to the extensive capabilities of Window-Eyes App Development. This all has to do with the amount of access the screen reader manufacturer grants his scripters. I might well have good ideas how to solve a given task, but if the screen reader blocks me from performing certain operations, I

Re: window-eyes open source?

see it happening that people will download the free program instead of paying hundreds of dollars for a very similar program. - Original Message - From: Josh Kennedy via Talk To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 4:23

RE: window-eyes open source?

Josh, This is more complicated than you are considering. I do not believe that JSAY is a VFO product for example. Remember, too, that VFO technically owns this list now, and the list is intended to help those who are trying to use Window-Eyes as long as they can. They would be completely

Re: window-eyes open source?

I think a FS thinks they are above the rules. lol -Original Message- From: Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 10:51 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Sky Mundell Subject: RE: window-eyes open source? The problem is that FS has too much of a monopoly

Re: window-eyes open source?

NVDA probably has to be scripted for that program then. On 9/11/2017 9:35 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote: Here's some thing I noticed about NVDA.  When arrowing up and down the message list in windows live mail 2012, NVDA doesn't say things like replied to, forwarded, attachment like window eyes

Re: window-eyes open source?

. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 7:42 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? NVDA works with dragon naturally

Re: window-eyes open source?

Here's some thing I noticed about NVDA. When arrowing up and down the message list in windows live mail 2012, NVDA doesn't say things like replied to, forwarded, attachment like window eyes. -Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:05 PM

RE: window-eyes open source?

Agree with you! -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Marvin Commerford via Talk Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 8:59 AM To: Josh Kennedy via Talk Cc: Marvin Commerford Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? Big

RE: window-eyes open source?

David, right on the money if I dare say so! How I wish NVDA would PUSH something to Android! It would certainly give Voice Views, Voice Assistant, ShinePlus and Talkback an interesting challenge and may be help those who already use it bring their own screen reader of choice to Android land!

Re: window-eyes open source?

Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: Your question makes absolutely no sense in the context of this discussion. NVDA's business model has no correlation to VFO's ownership of Window-Eyes. On 9/9/2017 9:40 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote: then how does NVDA work the way it does? and how is

RE: window-eyes open source?

No you don't dictation bridge is being developed for jaws it won't cost $400. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 7:42 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc

RE: window-eyes open source?

on the driver for their new device, but I don't have an expected completion date at this stage I'm afraid. Regarding the best way to get around the screen, we do work slightly different to Window-Eyes, however, there are several options which, once you are familiar with them, should get you around most

Re: window-eyes open source?

alk To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 4:23 PM Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? Why couldn't it happen? On 9/10/2017 3:47 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote: > I don't see that happening. > > -Orig

Re: window-eyes open source?

much of a monopoly in the paid market. Monopolies are illegal. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 8:51 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Dennis Long Subject: RE

Re: window-eyes open source?

via Talk Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:55 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Loy Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? NVDA is not far from being as good as JAWS and I can see it happening that people will download the free program instead of paying hundreds of dollars for a very similar

Re: window-eyes open source?

=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Loy via Talk Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:55 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Loy Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? NVDA is not far from being as good as JAWS and I can see it happening that people will download the free program

Re: window-eyes open source?

t; people will download the free program instead of paying hundreds of dollars > for a very similar program. >- Original Message - >From: Josh Kennedy via Talk >To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >Cc: Josh Kennedy >Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 4:23 PM >

RE: window-eyes open source?

Iagree. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 11:54 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Nick Sarames Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? Just because

Re: window-eyes open source?

es+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On > Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 8:51 PM > To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Cc: Dennis Long > Subject: RE: window-eyes open source? > > It is far from being as good as jaws! > > -Original

RE: window-eyes open source?

The problem is that FS has too much of a monopoly in the paid market. Monopolies are illegal. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 8:51 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List

RE: window-eyes open source?

It is far from being as good as jaws! -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Loy via Talk Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:55 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Loy Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? NVDA

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> sit down developing the same bahavior from scratch. Even calling Adobe, > Microsoft, AVG, Avast and so forth, asking for a brand new contract. A > contract VFO already has in place. So my big guess is, VFO DO NOT NEED > the code of the WinEyes screen reader, and never did. They needed the

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d new contract. A > contract VFO already has in place. So my big guess is, VFO DO NOT NEED > the code of the WinEyes screen reader, and never did. They needed the > market, and that is what they've currently got. > > > On 9/10/2017 3:01 AM, Josh Kennedy via Talk wrote: >   &g

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it happening that people will download the free program instead of paying hundreds of dollars for a very similar program. - Original Message - From: Josh Kennedy via Talk To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 4:23 PM Subject: Re: window

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Kennedy via Talk Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 1:08 PM To: David; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy Subject: Re: window-eyes open source? I wonder what VFO would do if NVDA starting eating into their business profits? If free open source NVDA would become way more popular than jaws

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PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote: I don't see that happening. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 1:08 PM To: David; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Josh Kennedy

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