RE: Talk Digest, Vol 609, Issue 1

2016-10-12 Thread via Talk 
Is this a real person, or is it spam

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Audible's "The Great Courses" series and Window-Eyes.

2016-10-12 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk 
Greetings everyone.

I've loaded several of the "Great Courses" into my Audible wish list, and 
notice that titles have extra material which I guess is a form of study guide 
to supplement the lectures.

What form does this extra material take, and is it readable with Window-Eyes?

Some of the courses do look genuinely interesting, but I'm not prepared to 
purchase if the package for each course is not truly accessible.  I do notice 
that there is a return book option, but user feedback from those who have gone 
down this path might ensure that I don't make the mistake of buying something, 
only to be disappointed.

Vaughan.



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Another Windows10 security update!

2016-10-12 Thread Bob Tinney via Talk 
The latest windows10 security update, KB3194798, did not fix my 
Favorites folder security warning issue that Microsoft knows about.  
Will they ever get their act together?



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RE: Unload and Reload of Window-Eyes

2016-10-12 Thread Peter Duran via Talk 
Hello

I need to unload and reload Window-Eyes 4 or more times while I work on a
Word 2010 doc for an hour or more.

Peter


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Hi Peter,

I am curious, how often do you need to shut down and re-start Window
Eyes?  

Since Windows 10 updated, I now find I need to shut down and restart
Window Eyes at least once before I start Becky, my Email program.  I
need to do this because WE hwill not read the Body of any Email, unless
I do this.  

I only need to shut down and restart once.  

I too am hoping for a fix, if it is something within Window Eyes that is
failing.  


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my big mistake

2016-10-12 Thread Kim Lingo via Talk 
I'm going to look like an idiot here, but here goes.  I made a big mistake 
which explains why the hotkeys in the tutorial and people's advice didn't 
work.


Actually, I'm now using WE 9.5.3, Microsoft Office 2013, and Windows Live 
Mail as the email program.  _This_ is the one that I am unable to access the 
spell checker.  It really is the right one.  So, is there a way to make the 
spell checker work with Window-Eyes?
Kim Lingo 



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RE: Somewhat OT, but hope someone can maybe help off list

2016-10-12 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk 
Hi Larry,

I had a very similar thing happening to me for months until, one day, it sorted 
itself out.
So, my advice is to let it be. Smile

All the best, and respectfully,

Rod

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Subject: Somewhat OT, but hope someone can maybe help off list

Hi Listers,

Since my computer was updated to the latest KB this morning, I am 
getting what seems to be an activex related JavaScript spoken each time 
I start up my computer. I really find this both annoying, but most of 
all, at this point, somewhat worrisome.

It also may be related to updating my Adobe player. Whatever it is, I 
wish I could find a way to stop it.

Also when it runs, I hear something about a shell, and in deed, my 
Powershell did actually open up once, and I had to close it.

If there is a way that I could capture the script as it runs, so that I 
can give any of you techies a go at figuring out precisely what it is, 
please let me know.

I've been struggling with this one all day, so I am kind of tired, so I 
will say no more.

Any help would be greatly appreciated,

Larry
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Re: Unload and Reload of Window-Eyes

2016-10-12 Thread Dave via Talk 
Hi Peter,

I am curious, how often do you need to shut down and re-start Window
Eyes?  

Since Windows 10 updated, I now find I need to shut down and restart
Window Eyes at least once before I start Becky, my Email program.  I
need to do this because WE hwill not read the Body of any Email, unless
I do this.  

I only need to shut down and restart once.  

I too am hoping for a fix, if it is something within Window Eyes that is
failing.  

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Re: wineyes and window 10

2016-10-12 Thread brice Mijares via Talk 
Do you know if the GW staff have address this problem? If they knew 
about it, they should have fixed it in version 9.5.3.0.


On 10/12/2016 2:18 PM, Loy wrote:

*If you are talking about the mouse keys, this hasn't worked well in
several updates. If you start with the number three key and go up with
number eight key you can review the screen from bottom to top. If you
start from top with seven key there is something that blocks the mouse
pointer  from getting to main screen. I have a little vision and can see
the mouse pointer and I can move the mouse pointer with the physical
mouse and review the screen.*

- Original Message -
*From:* brice Mijares via Talk 
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*Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2016 1:05 PM
*Subject:* wineyes and window 10

wineyes and win 10 Is anyone experiencing   the following? I find the
mouse pointer about useless 95 percent of the  time. Reading the
current
window shift control W never works. In TB, while composing mail  I can
read current line with control num pad 5, but control num pad 8 no
longer works. Matter a fact, control num pad 5 is the only  one the
works. In a list view anywhere in windows  can't get shift control S to
work the way it's suppose to, nor can I move by mouse clips, I believe
that's what it's called where you hold down the mouse insert key  hit
number 9 to go forward. Insert 4,5, and 6 no longer read previous
current and next letter or word.  These are a few  problems I've
noticed
in the short time I've been using windows 10. Any help will be
appreciated.
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Re: wineyes and window 10

2016-10-12 Thread brice Mijares via Talk 
Well Dave, I've use window eyes for nearly 20 years, but I'll be damn 
I'll pay for something that don't work as advertised. NEDA may be a 
better alternative in the near future.


On 10/12/2016 1:25 PM, Dave via Talk wrote:

I get a lot of Dings, when ever I use the Mouse.

When I attempt to read the entire screen, I get nothing.

When I attempt to read too many Pop up messages, again, I get almost
nothing.

Grumpy Dave



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unloading we

2016-10-12 Thread Gary Metzler via Talk 
Regards, Gary kn4ox
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Somewhat OT, but hope someone can maybe help off list

2016-10-12 Thread Larry Higgins via Talk 

Hi Listers,

Since my computer was updated to the latest KB this morning, I am 
getting what seems to be an activex related JavaScript spoken each time 
I start up my computer. I really find this both annoying, but most of 
all, at this point, somewhat worrisome.


It also may be related to updating my Adobe player. Whatever it is, I 
wish I could find a way to stop it.


Also when it runs, I hear something about a shell, and in deed, my 
Powershell did actually open up once, and I had to close it.


If there is a way that I could capture the script as it runs, so that I 
can give any of you techies a go at figuring out precisely what it is, 
please let me know.


I've been struggling with this one all day, so I am kind of tired, so I 
will say no more.


Any help would be greatly appreciated,

Larry
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Re: Unload and Reload of Window-Eyes

2016-10-12 Thread net bat via Talk 

alt tab away and back to the program.

-Original Message- 
From: Peter Duran via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 3:26 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Unload and Reload of Window-Eyes

I have to unload and reload Window-Eyes via Ctrl+Alt+W often to restore the 
announcement of Word 2010 Styles.  After the reload, Window-Eyes moves focus 
from the current document elsewhere.  Can that be fixed?


Peter Duran

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Unload and Reload of Window-Eyes

2016-10-12 Thread Peter Duran via Talk 
I have to unload and reload Window-Eyes via Ctrl+Alt+W often to restore the 
announcement of Word 2010 Styles.  After the reload, Window-Eyes moves focus 
from the current document elsewhere.  Can that be fixed?

Peter Duran

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Re: Talk Digest, Vol 609, Issue 1

2016-10-12 Thread Andrew Zeman via Talk 
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Re: wineyes and window 10

2016-10-12 Thread Loy via Talk 
If you are talking about the mouse keys, this hasn't worked well in several 
updates. If you start with the number three key and go up with number eight key 
you can review the screen from bottom to top. If you start from top with seven 
key there is something that blocks the mouse pointer  from getting to main 
screen. I have a little vision and can see the mouse pointer and I can move the 
mouse pointer with the physical mouse and review the screen.
  - Original Message - 
  From: brice Mijares via Talk 
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 1:05 PM
  Subject: wineyes and window 10


  wineyes and win 10 Is anyone experiencing   the following? I find the 
  mouse pointer about useless 95 percent of the  time. Reading the current 
  window shift control W never works. In TB, while composing mail  I can 
  read current line with control num pad 5, but control num pad 8 no 
  longer works. Matter a fact, control num pad 5 is the only  one the 
  works. In a list view anywhere in windows  can't get shift control S to 
  work the way it's suppose to, nor can I move by mouse clips, I believe 
  that's what it's called where you hold down the mouse insert key  hit 
  number 9 to go forward. Insert 4,5, and 6 no longer read previous 
  current and next letter or word.  These are a few  problems I've noticed 
  in the short time I've been using windows 10. Any help will be appreciated.
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Re: youtube to mp3 converter

2016-10-12 Thread Jed Barton via Talk 

oh sweet,
Do you have a link to download it?

Thanks,
Jed

On 10/12/2016 5:04 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:

I second that. I've been using it for about three years, and it is a
breeze, and there are no size limits to worry about, and it is fast.

On 10/12/2016 2:14 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:


Jed,

I've been using SongR for years and it works great. Just Google it and
you should have no problem finding it.

Hth,
Tom


Dropped from my iDrone


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Hey guys,

Anyoue know of an accessible program where i can convert a youtube
song to an mp3?

Thanks,
jed
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Re: youtube to mp3 converter

2016-10-12 Thread Larry Higgins via Talk 
I second that. I've been using it for about three years, and it is a 
breeze, and there are no size limits to worry about, and it is fast.


On 10/12/2016 2:14 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:


Jed,

I've been using SongR for years and it works great. Just Google it and you 
should have no problem finding it.

Hth,
Tom


Dropped from my iDrone


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wrote:

Hey guys,

Anyoue know of an accessible program where i can convert a youtube song to an 
mp3?

Thanks,
jed
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Re: wineyes and window 10

2016-10-12 Thread Dave via Talk 
I get a lot of Dings, when ever I use the Mouse.  

When I attempt to read the entire screen, I get nothing.  

When I attempt to read too many Pop up messages, again, I get almost
nothing.  

Grumpy Dave


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Re: youtube to mp3 converter

2016-10-12 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk 

Jed,

I've been using SongR for years and it works great. Just Google it and you 
should have no problem finding it.

Hth,
Tom


Dropped from my iDrone

> On Oct 12, 2016, at 1:57 PM, Jed Barton via Talk  
> wrote:
> 
> Hey guys,
> 
> Anyoue know of an accessible program where i can convert a youtube song to an 
> mp3?
> 
> Thanks,
> jed
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youtube to mp3 converter

2016-10-12 Thread Jed Barton via Talk 

Hey guys,

Anyoue know of an accessible program where i can convert a youtube song 
to an mp3?


Thanks,
jed
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Re: wineyes and window 10

2016-10-12 Thread Don H via Talk 
I have also noticed that tring to review some Win 10 screens with the 
invisible cursor works poorly.  Poorly in that sometimes it make work 
and most of the time it won't do anything but give you that all helpful 
ding.


On 10/12/2016 12:05 PM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote:

wineyes and win 10Is anyone experiencing   the following? I find the
mouse pointer about useless 95 percent of the  time. Reading the current
window shift control W never works. In TB, while composing mail  I can
read current line with control num pad 5, but control num pad 8 no
longer works. Matter a fact, control num pad 5 is the only  one the
works. In a list view anywhere in windows  can't get shift control S to
work the way it's suppose to, nor can I move by mouse clips, I believe
that's what it's called where you hold down the mouse insert key  hit
number 9 to go forward. Insert 4,5, and 6 no longer read previous
current and next letter or word.  These are a few  problems I've noticed
in the short time I've been using windows 10. Any help will be appreciated.
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wineyes and window 10

2016-10-12 Thread brice Mijares via Talk 
wineyes and win 10	Is anyone experiencing   the following? I find the 
mouse pointer about useless 95 percent of the  time. Reading the current 
window shift control W never works. In TB, while composing mail  I can 
read current line with control num pad 5, but control num pad 8 no 
longer works. Matter a fact, control num pad 5 is the only  one the 
works. In a list view anywhere in windows  can't get shift control S to 
work the way it's suppose to, nor can I move by mouse clips, I believe 
that's what it's called where you hold down the mouse insert key  hit 
number 9 to go forward. Insert 4,5, and 6 no longer read previous 
current and next letter or word.  These are a few  problems I've noticed 
in the short time I've been using windows 10. Any help will be appreciated.

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Re: favorites in IE

2016-10-12 Thread brice Mijares via Talk 
I copy files to a thumb drive differently. I select the files I want to 
move to the thumb drive, then copy them to the clipboard, then insert 
the thumb drive and open it through this PC and paste them.


On 10/12/2016 8:14 AM, Dave via Talk wrote:

Since the forced Update of Win 10, to the Anniversary Edition, My System
is slower, and Arrowing up down and around is Sluggish, and the need to
push the up or down arrow more than once is common.

I have had several Icons disappear from the Desktop, and some choices are
now gone from some File Manager menus.

One that is very odd is when I want to move a file from one folder to
some where else.

Say I open the Downloads folder.  I then Arrow to the file to be moved.
I then Press Shift F10, to bring up the Menu.  I then Arrow down this
menu to SEND TO.
I then Press the Right Arrow to open this up.  I Arrow down to the Flash
Drive, which is usually Drive  F: on this system.  I Press the Enter key
and the file is moved to the Flash Drive.

When the file has finished copying to the Flash Drive, I find myself
back in the Downloads folder.

I then Arrow to the next file to be copied, and Press Shift F10 and then
choose SEND TO.  Just like the first time.  But now my choices for the
Drives are gone from the menu .

Where did my choices go?

Very Weird behavior.

Grumpy Dave



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Re: favorites in IE

2016-10-12 Thread Dave via Talk 
Since the forced Update of Win 10, to the Anniversary Edition, My System
is slower, and Arrowing up down and around is Sluggish, and the need to
push the up or down arrow more than once is common.  

I have had several Icons disappear from the Desktop, and some choices are
now gone from some File Manager menus.  

One that is very odd is when I want to move a file from one folder to
some where else.

Say I open the Downloads folder.  I then Arrow to the file to be moved. 
I then Press Shift F10, to bring up the Menu.  I then Arrow down this
menu to SEND TO.
I then Press the Right Arrow to open this up.  I Arrow down to the Flash
Drive, which is usually Drive  F: on this system.  I Press the Enter key
and the file is moved to the Flash Drive.  

When the file has finished copying to the Flash Drive, I find myself
back in the Downloads folder.  

I then Arrow to the next file to be copied, and Press Shift F10 and then
choose SEND TO.  Just like the first time.  But now my choices for the
Drives are gone from the menu .  

Where did my choices go?  

Very Weird behavior.  

Grumpy Dave


-- 
Dave 

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RE: was favorites in IE but now Sentspace

2016-10-12 Thread CJ MAY via Talk 
Mostly I don't have this problems with Favourites but now get a security
problem everytime I try to download items via Sentspace.

Is there a way round this?

Alison

 

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Re: favorites in IE

2016-10-12 Thread Bob Tinney via Talk 
Since the last three updates for windows 10, when I use favorites in IE, 
I get a security warning.  Microsoft is aware of this problem and 
hopefully this problem will be fixed soon.


Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

On 10/12/2016 8:42 AM, Don H via Talk wrote:

Running Win 10 and latest version of WE.
When using the favorites menu on IE 11 quite often when you arrow down 
to a favorite in the favorites list and hit enter nothing happens.  In 
other words the favorites don't work.  Only way to get them working 
again is a system reboot.  Anyone else experiencing this or have a 
solution?

Thanks
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RE: the future of Window-Eyes

2016-10-12 Thread Chris Grabowski via Talk 
Hi,
Just to note: that issue is in our bug database.

Thanks,
Chris

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Neville via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 8:37 PM
To: Rod Hutton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: the future of Window-Eyes

Hi, Rod,
I also was wondering if Aaron Smith was still around.

A few weeks ago i sent Aaron a message regarding a long standing bug in WE but 
did not receive a reply.  Going on previous emails, this is very much unlike 
Aaron so was wondering if he was still around.

The bug, which has been around for a few releases,is where the reading of 
columns and headers can not be permantly turned off in the WE Control Panel.

Cheers
Neville.


On 11/10/2016 8:57 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
> Hi Drew,
>
> Oh yes, he is very much there.
>
> All the best,
>
> Rod
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of Drew Clark via Talk
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 10:47 PM
> To: Kevin Huber ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> ; tfairhu...@kc.rr.com
> Subject: Re: the future of Window-Eyes
>
> hi, is aaron smith still in gwmicro? i just listened to the did you 
> know series on window eyes
>
>> On 6 Oct 2016, at 2:49 AM, Kevin Huber via Talk  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mike:
>>
>> I think it depends on which features of Window-eyes, if any, they 
>> incorporate into JAWS.
>>
>> Kevin Huber
>>
>>> On 10/3/16, Mike Bernard via Talk  wrote:
>>> Gentlemen, it all comes down to this, capitalistic propaganda. The 
>>> more pricy stuff gets, the more money comes out of our pockets, and 
>>> goes into the company's. Yes I understand that they are trying to 
>>> run a business, but there has to be a balance somewhere. Like many 
>>> of you, I've been a loyal Window-Eyes user for years, and if they 
>>> ever got rid of it, I'd switch to NVDA. Jaws is ridiculously 
>>> expensive. Most of the staff at ACB Radio use Jaws, so whenever I 
>>> get remote tech assistance from them, I'll often fire up the demo 
>>> version of Jaws, which offers the remote assistance feature, and 
>>> it's what they're used to using. I could be wrong, but Trying to 
>>> incorporate Window-Eyes into Jaws to me, sounds like some sneaky way 
>>> to try to get everybody to switch over to Jaws.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you like classic rock? Do you like to shake your groove with 
>>> disco, eighties new wave,  90s hiphop or today's latest hits? If so, 
>>> Check out my show every Wednesday night from 7 to 9 pm on ACB Radio 
>>> Interactive at
>>>
>>>  www.acbradio.org/interactive
>>>
>>>
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Re: favorites in IE

2016-10-12 Thread Tony C via Talk 
I'm using Windows 10 and have never had a problem with my favorites. You may 
check and see what add-ons you may have installed in I E.


-Original Message- 
From: Don H via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 7:42 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: favorites in IE

Running Win 10 and latest version of WE.
When using the favorites menu on IE 11 quite often when you arrow down
to a favorite in the favorites list and hit enter nothing happens.  In
other words the favorites don't work.  Only way to get them working
again is a system reboot.  Anyone else experiencing this or have a solution?
Thanks
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favorites in IE

2016-10-12 Thread Don H via Talk 

Running Win 10 and latest version of WE.
When using the favorites menu on IE 11 quite often when you arrow down 
to a favorite in the favorites list and hit enter nothing happens.  In 
other words the favorites don't work.  Only way to get them working 
again is a system reboot.  Anyone else experiencing this or have a solution?

Thanks
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