setup files for the latest window-eyes for office in english and german?
Hello, i have an old PC, runing windows 7 and office 2010. I looking for the old installation files for window eyes for office in german and english languages. Has everyone the files and can send me them via dropbox link? Regards Armin Moradi ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: window-eyes, logon screen screen.
Hi Curtis, Actually, this is quite a difficult problem to solve, but, if you have a significant amount of courage and patience, you can certainly do it. Here is a link to a GW micro support knowledge base article which details the procedure: http://www.gwmicro.com/Support/Knowledge_Base/?kbnumber=GWKB2012 Interestingly, it is nice to see that the knowledge base is still up and running. (Smile) Good luck, Rod Sent from my iPod On Nov 11, 2022, at 2:25 PM, Curtis Delzer via Talk wrote: In windows ten which I run, window-eyes has it seems 2 "default" configurations, (1) at logon default? and (2) another default at the windows after logon. I wish Window-Eyes to load my triple talk synth at the logon screen, and maybe eloquence after logon. How to set that up? Curtis Delzer H.S. K6VFO Rialto, CA cur...@calweb.com On 9/6/2020 3:35 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, I am running Window-Eyes with build 2004 on both Windows 10 Home and Pro with no problems. At one time, there were a number .of apps which cause errors and prevented Window-Eyes from even starting. You can get Window-Eyes to start without apps running by starting Window-Eyes and then immediately holding down the Shift key and holding it down until it starts. In the Window-Eyes control panel, in the Apps menu, there is an option called App Management. If you then open App Management using right arrow, the first option is called App Status. You can then press right arrow again and then one of three options wil always be checked, On, Off, or Manual. Indeed, holding down the Shift key when you start Window-Eyes sets Apps to Manual. Normally, it will be set to On, and once you disable whatever apps you think may be causing problems, you would set it to On. A while back, the following apps caused me problems until I disabled them, although they don't seem to be doing so now. Anyway, you could disable all of these, and Window-Eyes will work fine. Eloquence Fix Hotspot JAWS quick key WEDiag Windows Enhanced You would then just set your app status back to On and you should be good to go. You should also probably shut down and then restart Window-Eyes. Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Tom via Talk Sent: September 4, 2020 2:57 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Tom Subject: Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4 Rod, Are you using Windows 10 Pro? In fact, for everybody who have WE 10 working with WE 9.5.4 wonder which version of Windows you are using. I am using Windows 10 pro and could that be the difference? Window-Eyef won't even load for me in 10, it displays four or five balloons it immediately shuts down. I don't even have a chance to turn off apps. The tech who installed 9.5.4 for me was kind of baffled although he did do some kind work around but when he left the work around stopped going around, ha. Tom ** Your Message ** >Hi Tom, > >At one time, there were a few apps which needed to be either disabled or >uninstalled in order for Window-Eyes to work in Windows 10. >On my current system, which runs the latest version of Windows 10, this is no >longer true. >Without exception, every default Window-Eyes app is running here. >A few months back, someone had written to this list with the news that they >had even gotten an app update from the Window-Eyes server. >No doubt, this was because they had an outdated app, but I recall being very >surprised to hear that app updates where available from the old Window-Eyes >server. >I know for certain that there was a time when the Window-Eyes app update >server was not active. >My guess is that there is some guardian angel or angels keeping Window-Eyes >working for the many people throughout the world who need it. >I am one of those who need it. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/curtis%40calweb.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the
window-eyes, logon screen screen.
In windows ten which I run, window-eyes has it seems 2 "default" configurations, (1) at logon default? and (2) another default at the windows after logon. I wish Window-Eyes to load my triple talk synth at the logon screen, and maybe eloquence after logon. How to set that up? Curtis Delzer H.S. K6VFO Rialto, CA cur...@calweb.com On 9/6/2020 3:35 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, I am running Window-Eyes with build 2004 on both Windows 10 Home and Pro with no problems. At one time, there were a number .of apps which cause errors and prevented Window-Eyes from even starting. You can get Window-Eyes to start without apps running by starting Window-Eyes and then immediately holding down the Shift key and holding it down until it starts. In the Window-Eyes control panel, in the Apps menu, there is an option called App Management. If you then open App Management using right arrow, the first option is called App Status. You can then press right arrow again and then one of three options wil always be checked, On, Off, or Manual. Indeed, holding down the Shift key when you start Window-Eyes sets Apps to Manual. Normally, it will be set to On, and once you disable whatever apps you think may be causing problems, you would set it to On. A while back, the following apps caused me problems until I disabled them, although they don't seem to be doing so now. Anyway, you could disable all of these, and Window-Eyes will work fine. Eloquence Fix Hotspot JAWS quick key WEDiag Windows Enhanced You would then just set your app status back to On and you should be good to go. You should also probably shut down and then restart Window-Eyes. Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Tom via Talk Sent: September 4, 2020 2:57 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Tom Subject: Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4 Rod, Are you using Windows 10 Pro? In fact, for everybody who have WE 10 working with WE 9.5.4 wonder which version of Windows you are using. I am using Windows 10 pro and could that be the difference? Window-Eyef won't even load for me in 10, it displays four or five balloons it immediately shuts down. I don't even have a chance to turn off apps. The tech who installed 9.5.4 for me was kind of baffled although he did do some kind work around but when he left the work around stopped going around, ha. Tom ** Your Message ** >Hi Tom, > >At one time, there were a few apps which needed to be either disabled or uninstalled in order for Window-Eyes to work in Windows 10. >On my current system, which runs the latest version of Windows 10, this is no longer true. >Without exception, every default Window-Eyes app is running here. >A few months back, someone had written to this list with the news that they had even gotten an app update from the Window-Eyes server. >No doubt, this was because they had an outdated app, but I recall being very surprised to hear that app updates where available from the old Window-Eyes server. >I know for certain that there was a time when the Window-Eyes app update server was not active. >My guess is that there is some guardian angel or angels keeping Window-Eyes working for the many people throughout the world who need it. >I am one of those who need it. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/curtis%40calweb.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: duxbury braille translator (dbt) script / app for window-eyes
Here's a link to the zip archive of all the apps. https://www.dropbox.com/s/akqmqrtapo9o2m6/WineyesApps.zip?dl=1 -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Drew Clark via Talk Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2022 1:29 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: Drew Clark Subject: duxbury braille translator (dbt) script / app for window-eyes hi, anyone having the archive of apps/script for window eyes, can you send me the duxbury / dbt script for window eyes? thanks a lot. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%4 0charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
duxbury braille translator (dbt) script / app for window-eyes
hi, anyone having the archive of apps/script for window eyes, can you send me the duxbury / dbt script for window eyes? thanks a lot. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
window-eyes for office installer
Hi, i am looking for the installer of window-eyes for office. the real site to get this of course is not working now. so anyone have this, hope it can be shared here with me. thanks in advance ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
I have never seen DecTalk 32 sold by itself. I only saw it come in Kurtweil and in window eyes as part of the program. Pam. -Original Message- From: Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2022 12:43 AM To: Pamela Dominguez via Talk Cc: Micallef Michael at FITA Subject: RE: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
Hi pamela, To say the truth I have the window-eyes with dectalk integrated but the dectalk I can't use it with other screen reader programs such as the NVDA. For me dectalk was one of the best speech synthesizers ever made. -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk Sent: Tuesday, 11 January 2022 12:30 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Pamela Dominguez Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 CAUTION: This email originated from OUTSIDE the Government Email Infrastructure. DO NOT CLICK LINKS or OPEN attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe. On mine, I hear DecTalk. But it depends. On newer versions, they couldn't get a decTalk license, or something, so people who bought it towards the end of its life got vocalizer. I don't know what that sounds like. But if you had window eyes already and you just went to update it, you could still get DecTalk. Pam. -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Monday, January 10, 2022 1:47 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Nick Sarames Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avg.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7Cmichael.micallef%40gov.mt%7C07c610a4b89d4d765c1e08d9d4f5ae6a%7C34cdd9f55db849bcacba01f65cca680d%7C0%7C0%7C637774974839723823%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=zC7UU9n%2BjDsUBsIeI8FcjCDwYJhElsDJQH90iMVIutc%3Dreserved=0 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Fmichael.micallef%2540gov.mtdata=04%7C01%7Cmichael.micallef%40gov.mt%7C07c610a4b89d4d765c1e08d9d4f5ae6a%7C34cdd9f55db849bcacba01f65cca680d%7C0%7C0%7C637774974839723823%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=9r93JPO9%2BnAwYpLMa4I7yLuwIJCr8nHdW66eAXEJjHY%3Dreserved=0. For subscription options, visit https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.comdata=04%7C01%7Cmichael.micallef%40gov.mt%7C07c610a4b89d4d765c1e08d9d4f5ae6a%7C34cdd9f55db849bcacba01f65cca680d%7C0%7C0%7C637774974839723823%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=uKfrpJY9YOnkr84H9SkDSg4OtlQ%2FHJnTRXtnNRhjGFs%3Dreserved=0 List archives can be found at https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Fprivate.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.comdata=04%7C01%7Cmichael.micallef%40gov.mt%7C07c610a4b89d4d765c1e08d9d4f5ae6a%7C34cdd9f55db849bcacba01f65cca680d%7C0%7C0%7C637774974839723823%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=m2wQ7ASvWygdWnL%2FryYFSPMGDaoWpDUam8M0K9fhXaY%3Dreserved=0 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
On mine, I hear DecTalk. But it depends. On newer versions, they couldn't get a decTalk license, or something, so people who bought it towards the end of its life got vocalizer. I don't know what that sounds like. But if you had window eyes already and you just went to update it, you could still get DecTalk. Pam. -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Monday, January 10, 2022 1:47 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Nick Sarames Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
Dear pamela, I'm michael from Malta Europe, Please may I ask you from where I can buy the dectalk access32 software speech synthesizer if it is still available somewhere? thanks -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Monday, 10 January 2022 18:23 To: Pamela Dominguez via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 CAUTION: This email originated from OUTSIDE the Government Email Infrastructure. DO NOT CLICK LINKS or OPEN attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe. Glad ya like it, and I hope you never lose it. On 1/10/2022 8:35 AM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: > That's really weird. DecTalk is so much clearer and louder than > eloquence. It's even better if you have an external one; because when > they made dectalk 32, they apparently lost the original specs, so they > had to cobble it together however they could, so it's not as good as > the external, but it's still better than eloquence. Artic is the > first synthetic speech I had in my first computer, which was one of > those evas things with dos in it. Pam. > > -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2022 1:43 PM > To: Nick Sarames via Talk > Cc: Larry Higgins > Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 > > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Fmichael.micallef%2540gov.mtdata=04%7C01%7Cmichael.micallef%40gov.mt%7C26c628ab1400405020f308d9d45dfb77%7C34cdd9f55db849bcacba01f65cca680d%7C0%7C0%7C637774323044342418%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=lej6X8byAXixS22bD8sZFl%2Fwc%2BTm3oniI6pAwuYixqc%3Dreserved=0. For subscription options, visit https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.comdata=04%7C01%7Cmichael.micallef%40gov.mt%7C26c628ab1400405020f308d9d45dfb77%7C34cdd9f55db849bcacba01f65cca680d%7C0%7C0%7C637774323044342418%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=8WKty4pwf1Yeio1BEmv5GlctuY%2FO%2BVbaoFxTnnAx%2FqY%3Dreserved=0 List archives can be found at https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Fprivate.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.comdata=04%7C01%7Cmichael.micallef%40gov.mt%7C26c628ab1400405020f308d9d45dfb77%7C34cdd9f55db849bcacba01f65cca680d%7C0%7C0%7C637774323044342418%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=6oTVaH10oOgmMswO07V43XS1%2F17neZ3PZs2q%2FAm%2FyR8%3Dreserved=0 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
Which voice is the one you might hear on WE startup? It sounds like the synthesizer is speaking English with an accent. On 1/10/2022 12:23 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: Glad ya like it, and I hope you never lose it. On 1/10/2022 8:35 AM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: That's really weird. DecTalk is so much clearer and louder than eloquence. It's even better if you have an external one; because when they made dectalk 32, they apparently lost the original specs, so they had to cobble it together however they could, so it's not as good as the external, but it's still better than eloquence. Artic is the first synthetic speech I had in my first computer, which was one of those evas things with dos in it. Pam. -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2022 1:43 PM To: Nick Sarames via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
Ah yes Rick, what you say is so true. I wish everyone whose found comfort and satisfaction with a particular voice to be able to keep and maintain it. I just wish the people at FS would take seriously this pacing issue. I really can't believe that so many people can be satisfied with such unnatural verbal delivery. I really don't wish to argue about this, because I, at least on this issue, know that my mind can never be changed, not out of stubbornness, but on the knowledge that most people do not speak like JAWS speaks or reads in natural conversation. With that, I will wish everyone a safe and happy day , Larry On 1/10/2022 8:58 AM, Rick Jarvis via Talk wrote: I have had triple talk USB for manyh years, and I use it with wineyes all the time and for my money it pronounces every word correctly, and does well with punctuation. Even though it does not have a human voice it is very easy to understand. I do have deck talk usb too, but I do not like it because it sounds like it has way to much to drink. When I use JAWS I use Kloe for my voice. She seems to be the clearest of all the voices with the exception of David. Either way there are some good synths, and some really poor ones. I guess it comes down to which one a person prefers. Regards Rick On 1/10/2022 8:35 AM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: That's really weird. DecTalk is so much clearer and louder than eloquence. It's even better if you have an external one; because when they made dectalk 32, they apparently lost the original specs, so they had to cobble it together however they could, so it's not as good as the external, but it's still better than eloquence. Artic is the first synthetic speech I had in my first computer, which was one of those evas things with dos in it. Pam. -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2022 1:43 PM To: Nick Sarames via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
Glad ya like it, and I hope you never lose it. On 1/10/2022 8:35 AM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: That's really weird. DecTalk is so much clearer and louder than eloquence. It's even better if you have an external one; because when they made dectalk 32, they apparently lost the original specs, so they had to cobble it together however they could, so it's not as good as the external, but it's still better than eloquence. Artic is the first synthetic speech I had in my first computer, which was one of those evas things with dos in it. Pam. -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2022 1:43 PM To: Nick Sarames via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
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I have had triple talk USB for manyh years, and I use it with wineyes all the time and for my money it pronounces every word correctly, and does well with punctuation. Even though it does not have a human voice it is very easy to understand. I do have deck talk usb too, but I do not like it because it sounds like it has way to much to drink. When I use JAWS I use Kloe for my voice. She seems to be the clearest of all the voices with the exception of David. Either way there are some good synths, and some really poor ones. I guess it comes down to which one a person prefers. Regards Rick On 1/10/2022 8:35 AM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: That's really weird. DecTalk is so much clearer and louder than eloquence. It's even better if you have an external one; because when they made dectalk 32, they apparently lost the original specs, so they had to cobble it together however they could, so it's not as good as the external, but it's still better than eloquence. Artic is the first synthetic speech I had in my first computer, which was one of those evas things with dos in it. Pam. -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2022 1:43 PM To: Nick Sarames via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
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That's really weird. DecTalk is so much clearer and louder than eloquence. It's even better if you have an external one; because when they made dectalk 32, they apparently lost the original specs, so they had to cobble it together however they could, so it's not as good as the external, but it's still better than eloquence. Artic is the first synthetic speech I had in my first computer, which was one of those evas things with dos in it. Pam. -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2022 1:43 PM To: Nick Sarames via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
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I remember back over 30 years ago, when I was trying to put my first PC together, I thought I just had to have Dectalk, because that is what I heard when getting introduced to OCR stand alone products, such as Kurzweil and Arkenstone. When listening to the Kurzweil stand alone, the synth was Dectalk, while the Arkenstone was being demonstrated to me using Artic BusinessVision. I really hated that Artic speech, but due to financial constraints ended up with Artic anyway, and I actually learned to like it. Now, I don't know if I could ever return to Artic After all of these years (even if it were at all possible), but one thing for certain, I cannot stand Dectalk. On 1/8/2022 12:04 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: Wow! I really like Eloquence, especially compared to (what is it) deck talk? Whatever the WE default speech synthesizer is. On 1/8/2022 11:57 AM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: Browse mode to read emails? I'm not doing it on the web. Oh, the thing I don't like about eloquence, which is what jaws has, is not only that it sounds like it's drunk with a plugged up nose, but that if there is no punctuation mark after a certain amount of time, it starts winding down like its batteries are dying. After all these years, they have never fixed that. Shame on them! Pam. -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Friday, January 07, 2022 10:15 AM To: Pamela Dominguez via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
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Pam, if you are reading email with Thunderbird, you are definitely using browse mode. As a matter of fact, when I go to reply to a message, I must turn off browse mode before I can begin composing the message. Ah, Ive just gotta mention this little funny. When writing the word "composing," I mistakenly wrote the word "composting." Now what I'm telling you about browse mode isn't compost. Try turning on Browse mode and see if that works. Some times the answers and solutions aren't that simple, but who knows, maybe it will work for you. Now as for Eloquence, I'll have to agree with you about the descending pitch in those circumstances, but that isn't quite the deal breaker that the reading delivery is proving to be. And BTW, this issue is not only evident with Eloquence with JFW, but all other synths included with the program as well. I also don't hear the speech as in any way slurred, but if I did, I would also have a problem with it as well. Of course, most of this that we think we hear is indeed quite subjective, with the possible exception of my particular complaint . Long live Eloquence, with all its faults, Larry On 1/8/2022 10:57 AM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: Browse mode to read emails? I'm not doing it on the web. Oh, the thing I don't like about eloquence, which is what jaws has, is not only that it sounds like it's drunk with a plugged up nose, but that if there is no punctuation mark after a certain amount of time, it starts winding down like its batteries are dying. After all these years, they have never fixed that. Shame on them! Pam. -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Friday, January 07, 2022 10:15 AM To: Pamela Dominguez via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
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Wow! I really like Eloquence, especially compared to (what is it) deck talk? Whatever the WE default speech synthesizer is. On 1/8/2022 11:57 AM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: Browse mode to read emails? I'm not doing it on the web. Oh, the thing I don't like about eloquence, which is what jaws has, is not only that it sounds like it's drunk with a plugged up nose, but that if there is no punctuation mark after a certain amount of time, it starts winding down like its batteries are dying. After all these years, they have never fixed that. Shame on them! Pam. -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Friday, January 07, 2022 10:15 AM To: Pamela Dominguez via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
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Browse mode to read emails? I'm not doing it on the web. Oh, the thing I don't like about eloquence, which is what jaws has, is not only that it sounds like it's drunk with a plugged up nose, but that if there is no punctuation mark after a certain amount of time, it starts winding down like its batteries are dying. After all these years, they have never fixed that. Shame on them! Pam. -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Friday, January 07, 2022 10:15 AM To: Pamela Dominguez via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
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I agree Larry, WE has been my favorite screen reader since it came out. I still use it as much as possible. Regards Rick On 1/7/2022 9:15 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: I realize that this might be a long shot, and at the same time, a big duh, but are you sure that browse mode is actually kicking in? Shoot, I guess if this starts happening to me, I would probably be tempted to finally give up on WE altogether. I, like all of us WE die-hards, are still so comfortable with this once great screen reader. I must admit to being a bit timid when it comes to completely submitting to the ways of the shark. The main reason, outside of WE's overall ease of use for sticking with WE has more to do with JAW's read all settings. IMHO, JAWS simply doesn't allow enough of an appropriate pause between the end and beginnings of sentences. It reads in such a way that I simply wouldn't tolerate from a human reader. I mean, if narrators/readers on commercial recordings, or in house so to speak were to read in such a manner, let's just say that they would fail the audition. I say all of this just to say that I am a user of Bookshare, and do quite a bit of reading on my PC, and WE's verbal pacing using Eloquence to me is more human sounding than these more human sounding voices, but only because of the way these people at Vespero (spelling) have chosen to manipulate speech delivery in say all mode. As it stands, when using JAWS, I have to use Code Factory Eloquence, which reads more to my satisfaction, but with another issue. That version of Eloquence simply passes up my favored normal rate of speed of Window-Eyes's 41 to a step or two higher than I' like to read most of the time. I also use IE for DAISY text books, but for little else. WE is just a combination good/bad habit that I know I am ultimately going to have to break, and I'm sure most of you all have come to the same conclusion. There are things that WE will not read that both JAWS and Narrator will, but on rare occasion, WE will still come through, but these are becoming les and less frequent as time goes on. Too bad. Oh well, I've rambled on far longer than I planned too. Don't wish to get into any arguments about all of this. But just suffice it to say, that we sure lost a hell of a great product with a fine company behind it. On 1/7/2022 6:42 AM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: I am using windows 7 and I have that problem. I checked to see, in the control pannel, whether the set file for thunderbird was at the top, and it was. But I still can't read the body of a message. Pam. -Original Message- From: Rick Jarvis via Talk Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2022 12:47 PM To: Donald Roberts via Talk Cc: Rick Jarvis Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/r.jarvis53%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
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Try n v d a. I jump back and forrth between windoweyes and n v d a. n v d a has some nice features, and it is free, although I donate a bit when I download a new copy. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Fri, 7 Jan 2022, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: I realize that this might be a long shot, and at the same time, a big duh, but are you sure that browse mode is actually kicking in? Shoot, I guess if this starts happening to me, I would probably be tempted to finally give up on WE altogether. I, like all of us WE die-hards, are still so comfortable with this once great screen reader. I must admit to being a bit timid when it comes to completely submitting to the ways of the shark. The main reason, outside of WE's overall ease of use for sticking with WE has more to do with JAW's read all settings. IMHO, JAWS simply doesn't allow enough of an appropriate pause between the end and beginnings of sentences. It reads in such a way that I simply wouldn't tolerate from a human reader. I mean, if narrators/readers on commercial recordings, or in house so to speak were to read in such a manner, let's just say that they would fail the audition. I say all of this just to say that I am a user of Bookshare, and do quite a bit of reading on my PC, and WE's verbal pacing using Eloquence to me is more human sounding than these more human sounding voices, but only because of the way these people at Vespero (spelling) have chosen to manipulate speech delivery in say all mode. As it stands, when using JAWS, I have to use Code Factory Eloquence, which reads more to my satisfaction, but with another issue. That version of Eloquence simply passes up my favored normal rate of speed of Window-Eyes's 41 to a step or two higher than I' like to read most of the time. I also use IE for DAISY text books, but for little else. WE is just a combination good/bad habit that I know I am ultimately going to have to break, and I'm sure most of you all have come to the same conclusion. There are things that WE will not read that both JAWS and Narrator will, but on rare occasion, WE will still come through, but these are becoming les and less frequent as time goes on. Too bad. Oh well, I've rambled on far longer than I planned too. Don't wish to get into any arguments about all of this. But just suffice it to say, that we sure lost a hell of a great product with a fine company behind it. On 1/7/2022 6:42 AM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: I am using windows 7 and I have that problem. I checked to see, in the control pannel, whether the set file for thunderbird was at the top, and it was. But I still can't read the body of a message. Pam. -Original Message- From: Rick Jarvis via Talk Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2022 12:47 PM To: Donald Roberts via Talk Cc: Rick Jarvis Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/butchb%40shellworld.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
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I realize that this might be a long shot, and at the same time, a big duh, but are you sure that browse mode is actually kicking in? Shoot, I guess if this starts happening to me, I would probably be tempted to finally give up on WE altogether. I, like all of us WE die-hards, are still so comfortable with this once great screen reader. I must admit to being a bit timid when it comes to completely submitting to the ways of the shark. The main reason, outside of WE's overall ease of use for sticking with WE has more to do with JAW's read all settings. IMHO, JAWS simply doesn't allow enough of an appropriate pause between the end and beginnings of sentences. It reads in such a way that I simply wouldn't tolerate from a human reader. I mean, if narrators/readers on commercial recordings, or in house so to speak were to read in such a manner, let's just say that they would fail the audition. I say all of this just to say that I am a user of Bookshare, and do quite a bit of reading on my PC, and WE's verbal pacing using Eloquence to me is more human sounding than these more human sounding voices, but only because of the way these people at Vespero (spelling) have chosen to manipulate speech delivery in say all mode. As it stands, when using JAWS, I have to use Code Factory Eloquence, which reads more to my satisfaction, but with another issue. That version of Eloquence simply passes up my favored normal rate of speed of Window-Eyes's 41 to a step or two higher than I' like to read most of the time. I also use IE for DAISY text books, but for little else. WE is just a combination good/bad habit that I know I am ultimately going to have to break, and I'm sure most of you all have come to the same conclusion. There are things that WE will not read that both JAWS and Narrator will, but on rare occasion, WE will still come through, but these are becoming les and less frequent as time goes on. Too bad. Oh well, I've rambled on far longer than I planned too. Don't wish to get into any arguments about all of this. But just suffice it to say, that we sure lost a hell of a great product with a fine company behind it. On 1/7/2022 6:42 AM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: I am using windows 7 and I have that problem. I checked to see, in the control pannel, whether the set file for thunderbird was at the top, and it was. But I still can't read the body of a message. Pam. -Original Message- From: Rick Jarvis via Talk Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2022 12:47 PM To: Donald Roberts via Talk Cc: Rick Jarvis Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
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I am using windows 7 and I have that problem. I checked to see, in the control pannel, whether the set file for thunderbird was at the top, and it was. But I still can't read the body of a message. Pam. -Original Message- From: Rick Jarvis via Talk Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2022 12:47 PM To: Donald Roberts via Talk Cc: Rick Jarvis Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
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Hello I have had the same problem. I haven't upgraded TB but it seemed to started after an upgrade to Windows 10. Mike Mike Gurney On 07/01/2022 01:44, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: Well Bernie, I have a feeling that focus annoyance isn't one of those things that will go away any time soon. I mean, if others find that to be the pain that we do, you think that people would complain in droves, but apparently not. I'm sure glad you got the message body issue worked out though. Hopefully I wont be running into anything as serious as that with the bird round here. Take care and stay safe, Larry On 1/6/2022 5:07 PM, Bernie Perella via Talk wrote: Hi Lary, Yes, I have been having the same issue. It is quite annoying. I am not sure when this behavior began. Also, near the end of last November,TB did an upgrade and suddenly I was not able to get any new messages. I think it might have something to do with changing longin procedures on my two email providers I rolled back my system to the checkpoint that was done at the time of the TB upgrade and voila all was well again except for the focus switching issue. Bernie On 1/6/2022 2:41 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: Rick, I, like you, am not experiencing this issue. The one issue I have had to learn to put up with for the past couple of months or so is that Thunderbird losing focus whenever a new message comes onto the mail account/server I happen to be using at the time. Whenever arrowing through a list of messages, no matter which box I might be in, this happens. It throws me back to the first level of mail boxes, more specifically, my inbox. Are by chance you experiencing this issue, and if so, have you found a way around it? PS It just occurred to me that I might be hijacking a thread. If so, I apologize. I certainly hope you have by now solved the original issue. Just hope I don't confront that one in the future. Larry On 1/6/2022 11:47 AM, Rick Jarvis via Talk wrote: Rick here, and I am not having that problem with wineyes and thunderbird. I don't know what settings I have, but I am able to read everything with no problems. Wish I could help you regards Rick On 10/22/2021 2:07 PM, Donald Roberts via Talk wrote: I am running a recent version of Windows 10 on my Dell desktop. Although I currently use Thunderbird 91.2, this problem began several months ago. Whenever possible, I prefer to use Window-eyes 9.5.4 as my screen reader of choice. When something doesn't work, I switch to Jaws 2021 to see whether things work better. When it comes to email, I can no longer use Window-eyes and must use Jaws. If I try to use W E with Thunderbird, I can no longer read the body of any message. I can read the to, from, and subject fields but not the message body. Although I don't recall the specifics, several months ago, Rud Hutton indicated that there were some Window-eyes apps which nowneeded to be disabled in recent versions of Windows 10. I wonder whether this could be the problem when attempting to read email using Thunderbird. If anyone remembers what I am talking about, I would appreciate knowing which W E apps need to be disabled. I realize this is a long shot, but I would certainly prefer to read email using W E. Thanks in advance for feedback. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/r.jarvis53%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bernie.perella%40outlook.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those
Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
Well Bernie, I have a feeling that focus annoyance isn't one of those things that will go away any time soon. I mean, if others find that to be the pain that we do, you think that people would complain in droves, but apparently not. I'm sure glad you got the message body issue worked out though. Hopefully I wont be running into anything as serious as that with the bird round here. Take care and stay safe, Larry On 1/6/2022 5:07 PM, Bernie Perella via Talk wrote: Hi Lary, Yes, I have been having the same issue. It is quite annoying. I am not sure when this behavior began. Also, near the end of last November,TB did an upgrade and suddenly I was not able to get any new messages. I think it might have something to do with changing longin procedures on my two email providers I rolled back my system to the checkpoint that was done at the time of the TB upgrade and voila all was well again except for the focus switching issue. Bernie On 1/6/2022 2:41 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: Rick, I, like you, am not experiencing this issue. The one issue I have had to learn to put up with for the past couple of months or so is that Thunderbird losing focus whenever a new message comes onto the mail account/server I happen to be using at the time. Whenever arrowing through a list of messages, no matter which box I might be in, this happens. It throws me back to the first level of mail boxes, more specifically, my inbox. Are by chance you experiencing this issue, and if so, have you found a way around it? PS It just occurred to me that I might be hijacking a thread. If so, I apologize. I certainly hope you have by now solved the original issue. Just hope I don't confront that one in the future. Larry On 1/6/2022 11:47 AM, Rick Jarvis via Talk wrote: Rick here, and I am not having that problem with wineyes and thunderbird. I don't know what settings I have, but I am able to read everything with no problems. Wish I could help you regards Rick On 10/22/2021 2:07 PM, Donald Roberts via Talk wrote: I am running a recent version of Windows 10 on my Dell desktop. Although I currently use Thunderbird 91.2, this problem began several months ago. Whenever possible, I prefer to use Window-eyes 9.5.4 as my screen reader of choice. When something doesn't work, I switch to Jaws 2021 to see whether things work better. When it comes to email, I can no longer use Window-eyes and must use Jaws. If I try to use W E with Thunderbird, I can no longer read the body of any message. I can read the to, from, and subject fields but not the message body. Although I don't recall the specifics, several months ago, Rud Hutton indicated that there were some Window-eyes apps which nowneeded to be disabled in recent versions of Windows 10. I wonder whether this could be the problem when attempting to read email using Thunderbird. If anyone remembers what I am talking about, I would appreciate knowing which W E apps need to be disabled. I realize this is a long shot, but I would certainly prefer to read email using W E. Thanks in advance for feedback. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/r.jarvis53%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bernie.perella%40outlook.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window
Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
Hi Lary, Yes, I have been having the same issue. It is quite annoying. I am not sure when this behavior began. Also, near the end of last November,TB did an upgrade and suddenly I was not able to get any new messages. I think it might have something to do with changing longin procedures on my two email providers I rolled back my system to the checkpoint that was done at the time of the TB upgrade and voila all was well again except for the focus switching issue. Bernie On 1/6/2022 2:41 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: Rick, I, like you, am not experiencing this issue. The one issue I have had to learn to put up with for the past couple of months or so is that Thunderbird losing focus whenever a new message comes onto the mail account/server I happen to be using at the time. Whenever arrowing through a list of messages, no matter which box I might be in, this happens. It throws me back to the first level of mail boxes, more specifically, my inbox. Are by chance you experiencing this issue, and if so, have you found a way around it? PS It just occurred to me that I might be hijacking a thread. If so, I apologize. I certainly hope you have by now solved the original issue. Just hope I don't confront that one in the future. Larry On 1/6/2022 11:47 AM, Rick Jarvis via Talk wrote: Rick here, and I am not having that problem with wineyes and thunderbird. I don't know what settings I have, but I am able to read everything with no problems. Wish I could help you regards Rick On 10/22/2021 2:07 PM, Donald Roberts via Talk wrote: I am running a recent version of Windows 10 on my Dell desktop. Although I currently use Thunderbird 91.2, this problem began several months ago. Whenever possible, I prefer to use Window-eyes 9.5.4 as my screen reader of choice. When something doesn't work, I switch to Jaws 2021 to see whether things work better. When it comes to email, I can no longer use Window-eyes and must use Jaws. If I try to use W E with Thunderbird, I can no longer read the body of any message. I can read the to, from, and subject fields but not the message body. Although I don't recall the specifics, several months ago, Rud Hutton indicated that there were some Window-eyes apps which nowneeded to be disabled in recent versions of Windows 10. I wonder whether this could be the problem when attempting to read email using Thunderbird. If anyone remembers what I am talking about, I would appreciate knowing which W E apps need to be disabled. I realize this is a long shot, but I would certainly prefer to read email using W E. Thanks in advance for feedback. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/r.jarvis53%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bernie.perella%40outlook.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
Larry so far I have not encountered that problem. Rick On 1/6/2022 1:41 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: Rick, I, like you, am not experiencing this issue. The one issue I have had to learn to put up with for the past couple of months or so is that Thunderbird losing focus whenever a new message comes onto the mail account/server I happen to be using at the time. Whenever arrowing through a list of messages, no matter which box I might be in, this happens. It throws me back to the first level of mail boxes, more specifically, my inbox. Are by chance you experiencing this issue, and if so, have you found a way around it? PS It just occurred to me that I might be hijacking a thread. If so, I apologize. I certainly hope you have by now solved the original issue. Just hope I don't confront that one in the future. Larry On 1/6/2022 11:47 AM, Rick Jarvis via Talk wrote: Rick here, and I am not having that problem with wineyes and thunderbird. I don't know what settings I have, but I am able to read everything with no problems. Wish I could help you regards Rick On 10/22/2021 2:07 PM, Donald Roberts via Talk wrote: I am running a recent version of Windows 10 on my Dell desktop. Although I currently use Thunderbird 91.2, this problem began several months ago. Whenever possible, I prefer to use Window-eyes 9.5.4 as my screen reader of choice. When something doesn't work, I switch to Jaws 2021 to see whether things work better. When it comes to email, I can no longer use Window-eyes and must use Jaws. If I try to use W E with Thunderbird, I can no longer read the body of any message. I can read the to, from, and subject fields but not the message body. Although I don't recall the specifics, several months ago, Rud Hutton indicated that there were some Window-eyes apps which nowneeded to be disabled in recent versions of Windows 10. I wonder whether this could be the problem when attempting to read email using Thunderbird. If anyone remembers what I am talking about, I would appreciate knowing which W E apps need to be disabled. I realize this is a long shot, but I would certainly prefer to read email using W E. Thanks in advance for feedback. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/r.jarvis53%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/r.jarvis53%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
Rick, I, like you, am not experiencing this issue. The one issue I have had to learn to put up with for the past couple of months or so is that Thunderbird losing focus whenever a new message comes onto the mail account/server I happen to be using at the time. Whenever arrowing through a list of messages, no matter which box I might be in, this happens. It throws me back to the first level of mail boxes, more specifically, my inbox. Are by chance you experiencing this issue, and if so, have you found a way around it? PS It just occurred to me that I might be hijacking a thread. If so, I apologize. I certainly hope you have by now solved the original issue. Just hope I don't confront that one in the future. Larry On 1/6/2022 11:47 AM, Rick Jarvis via Talk wrote: Rick here, and I am not having that problem with wineyes and thunderbird. I don't know what settings I have, but I am able to read everything with no problems. Wish I could help you regards Rick On 10/22/2021 2:07 PM, Donald Roberts via Talk wrote: I am running a recent version of Windows 10 on my Dell desktop. Although I currently use Thunderbird 91.2, this problem began several months ago. Whenever possible, I prefer to use Window-eyes 9.5.4 as my screen reader of choice. When something doesn't work, I switch to Jaws 2021 to see whether things work better. When it comes to email, I can no longer use Window-eyes and must use Jaws. If I try to use W E with Thunderbird, I can no longer read the body of any message. I can read the to, from, and subject fields but not the message body. Although I don't recall the specifics, several months ago, Rud Hutton indicated that there were some Window-eyes apps which nowneeded to be disabled in recent versions of Windows 10. I wonder whether this could be the problem when attempting to read email using Thunderbird. If anyone remembers what I am talking about, I would appreciate knowing which W E apps need to be disabled. I realize this is a long shot, but I would certainly prefer to read email using W E. Thanks in advance for feedback. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/r.jarvis53%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
Rick here, and I am not having that problem with wineyes and thunderbird. I don't know what settings I have, but I am able to read everything with no problems. Wish I could help you regards Rick On 10/22/2021 2:07 PM, Donald Roberts via Talk wrote: I am running a recent version of Windows 10 on my Dell desktop. Although I currently use Thunderbird 91.2, this problem began several months ago. Whenever possible, I prefer to use Window-eyes 9.5.4 as my screen reader of choice. When something doesn't work, I switch to Jaws 2021 to see whether things work better. When it comes to email, I can no longer use Window-eyes and must use Jaws. If I try to use W E with Thunderbird, I can no longer read the body of any message. I can read the to, from, and subject fields but not the message body. Although I don't recall the specifics, several months ago, Rud Hutton indicated that there were some Window-eyes apps which nowneeded to be disabled in recent versions of Windows 10. I wonder whether this could be the problem when attempting to read email using Thunderbird. If anyone remembers what I am talking about, I would appreciate knowing which W E apps need to be disabled. I realize this is a long shot, but I would certainly prefer to read email using W E. Thanks in advance for feedback. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/r.jarvis53%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
Hi Don, Nice to hear from you again. Smile. As far as the list of Window-Eyes apps to disable, it is interesting to note that, actually, on one of my computers, I did not need to disable any apps, whereas, on another, I did. Also, I don’t think the fact that certain apps are running is the cause of your Thunderbird issue. The simple fact is that I was not even able to get Window-Eyes to launch without throwing multiple errors unless the apps I mentioned were disabled. The process of disabling apps couldn’t even be done at all unless I launched Window-Eyes without any apps starting up, and this is done by holding down the Shift key while launching it. I tend to think that the problem you are having is that which Bernie on the list mentioned when responding to Carol‘s post, namely, the Thunderbird set file is not loading and therefore the screen information presented by Thunderbird is not accessible. Bernie’s suggestion of the steps to get the Thunderbird set file to load should work, but, if it doesn’t, then the set file which you would need to load manually is TBEnhanced, as memory serves. Once you load that set file, you would need to press Control-S in order to save the association of this set file with the application window in question; this association would be to the main Thunderbird application window. At any rate, here is the list I had mentioned some time ago: Window eyes apps to disable Eloquence Fix Hotspot JAWS quick key WEDiag Windows Enhanced Good luck, and I hope this helps, Rod Sent from Outlook<https://aka.ms/sdimjr> for iPad OS From: Talk on behalf of Donald Roberts via Talk Sent: Friday, October 22, 2021 3:08 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: Donald Roberts Subject: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 I am running a recent version of Windows 10 on my Dell desktop. Although I currently use Thunderbird 91.2, this problem began several months ago. Whenever possible, I prefer to use Window-eyes 9.5.4 as my screen reader of choice. When something doesn't work, I switch to Jaws 2021 to see whether things work better. When it comes to email, I can no longer use Window-eyes and must use Jaws. If I try to use W E with Thunderbird, I can no longer read the body of any message. I can read the to, from, and subject fields but not the message body. Although I don't recall the specifics, several months ago, Rud Hutton indicated that there were some Window-eyes apps which nowneeded to be disabled in recent versions of Windows 10. I wonder whether this could be the problem when attempting to read email using Thunderbird. If anyone remembers what I am talking about, I would appreciate knowing which W E apps need to be disabled. I realize this is a long shot, but I would certainly prefer to read email using W E. Thanks in advance for feedback. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
I am running a recent version of Windows 10 on my Dell desktop. Although I currently use Thunderbird 91.2, this problem began several months ago. Whenever possible, I prefer to use Window-eyes 9.5.4 as my screen reader of choice. When something doesn't work, I switch to Jaws 2021 to see whether things work better. When it comes to email, I can no longer use Window-eyes and must use Jaws. If I try to use W E with Thunderbird, I can no longer read the body of any message. I can read the to, from, and subject fields but not the message body. Although I don't recall the specifics, several months ago, Rud Hutton indicated that there were some Window-eyes apps which nowneeded to be disabled in recent versions of Windows 10. I wonder whether this could be the problem when attempting to read email using Thunderbird. If anyone remembers what I am talking about, I would appreciate knowing which W E apps need to be disabled. I realize this is a long shot, but I would certainly prefer to read email using W E. Thanks in advance for feedback. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
window-eyes screwing up notepad
I've had this problem with notepad and couldn't figure out where it was coming from. Today I'm installing stuff on a new machine. I installed window-eyes and then added a bunch of my favorite scripts. When I run notepad, I get a bunch of clapping and it says "yipee, you are now running notepad" I can't figure out what script or program is doing it. If I run nvda, problem goes away. I blew away window-eyes and reinstalled without adding any scripts and it is still o.k. Anyone know what script might be doing this? 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Fwd: window-eyes speaking extra word
Hello, I just wanted to make a correction to my description of the gold wave app which I wrote. The three hotkeys Report the beginning and end positions of the current track, as well as The track length, but only if you have not selected a portion of the track. If you have made a selection, then the start and end positions, as well as the length , refer to the selection. all the best, Rod Sent from Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS From: Rod Hutton Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 8:41:17 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Comcast Subject: RE: window-eyes speaking extra word Hi, I just thought I would mention that the only app which works with the current version of GoldWave, that is, version 6.54, is the app I wrote, namely, GoldWave Enhance. This app is included in the archive which I gave the link for. Incidentally, as memory serves, this app has a little subroutine which checks to see if the GoldWave program has changed its name. If it has changed, then my app won't work, and you'll get a message asking you to contact the developer. You can always contact me and I'll make any necessary changes in my app and update it, no problem. My email address is rod_hut...@hotmail.com. I also want to mention that all my app does it provide three hot keys, for reading the start and end positions of the current track, as well as the track length. It's not too fancy, but it does come in handy. Smile. Good luck, Rod Hutton Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Comcast via Talk Sent: April 1, 2021 4:41 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Comcast Subject: Re: window-eyes speaking extra word Does anyone have an archive of all the WE set files prior to 9.4 such as the ones released for version 8? I am primarily looking for a gold wave set file, but I never found it in my release of version 9.4.1. It doesn’t seem to be anywhere in the WE folder. Thanks a lot for your help, Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 1, 2021, at 8:26 AM, Stephen Clower via Talk > wrote: > > Hi Butch, > > You may have unintentionally pressed CTRL+INSERT+F instead of CTRL+SHIFT+F to > issue the find command— easy enough to do especially if you regularly jump > between NVDA and other screen readers. This keystroke brings up the field > labeler instead. Once you are in the browser and hear “serial,” press > CTRL+INSERT+F to re-open the field label dialog, clear out any text you find > there, and press Enter. No need to save anything as this will be done for you > automatically. > > Best, > Steve > > >> On Apr 1, 2021, at 8:30 AM, Butch Bussen via Talk >> wrote: >> >> I'm not sure where it came from, maybe I did a search at one time with the >> find command. Anyhow, Now as I'm going through links and edit boxes with >> the tab key, it preceeds each with the word serial, such as "serial link" >> and so forth. Anyone know how to clear this. I've rebooted and no change. >> 73 >> Butch >> WA0VJR >> Node 3148 >> Wallace, ks. >> >> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40steve-audio.net. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/stepserve%40comcast.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai
RE: window-eyes speaking extra word
Hi, I just thought I would mention that the only app which works with the current version of GoldWave, that is, version 6.54, is the app I wrote, namely, GoldWave Enhance. This app is included in the archive which I gave the link for. Incidentally, as memory serves, this app has a little subroutine which checks to see if the GoldWave program has changed its name. If it has changed, then my app won't work, and you'll get a message asking you to contact the developer. You can always contact me and I'll make any necessary changes in my app and update it, no problem. My email address is rod_hut...@hotmail.com. I also want to mention that all my app does it provide three hot keys, for reading the start and end positions of the current track, as well as the track length. It's not too fancy, but it does come in handy. Smile. Good luck, Rod Hutton Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Comcast via Talk Sent: April 1, 2021 4:41 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Comcast Subject: Re: window-eyes speaking extra word Does anyone have an archive of all the WE set files prior to 9.4 such as the ones released for version 8? I am primarily looking for a gold wave set file, but I never found it in my release of version 9.4.1. It doesn’t seem to be anywhere in the WE folder. Thanks a lot for your help, Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 1, 2021, at 8:26 AM, Stephen Clower via Talk > wrote: > > Hi Butch, > > You may have unintentionally pressed CTRL+INSERT+F instead of CTRL+SHIFT+F to > issue the find command— easy enough to do especially if you regularly jump > between NVDA and other screen readers. This keystroke brings up the field > labeler instead. Once you are in the browser and hear “serial,” press > CTRL+INSERT+F to re-open the field label dialog, clear out any text you find > there, and press Enter. No need to save anything as this will be done for you > automatically. > > Best, > Steve > > >> On Apr 1, 2021, at 8:30 AM, Butch Bussen via Talk >> wrote: >> >> I'm not sure where it came from, maybe I did a search at one time with the >> find command. Anyhow, Now as I'm going through links and edit boxes with >> the tab key, it preceeds each with the word serial, such as "serial link" >> and so forth. Anyone know how to clear this. I've rebooted and no change. >> 73 >> Butch >> WA0VJR >> Node 3148 >> Wallace, ks. >> >> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40steve-audio.net. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/stepserve%40comcast.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: window eyes speaking extra word
Thanks again. That did the trick. I jump between window-eyes and nvda 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. and I think that is the find command in nvda. Anyhow, it is gon. On Sat, 3 Apr 2021, Rod Hutton wrote: Hi Butch, Actually, Steve Clower responded to your message with the suggestion that you may have accidentally used the hot Key control insert F which labels a field. He suggested that this may have happened if you had been searching for the word ?serial? and accidentally pressed the above hot Key. so, the solution is to find an edit box in your browser, press the above hot key, and then clear the edit box, which probably contains the word ?serial?, and then press enter to close the dialogue. Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS From: Talk on behalf of Butch Bussen via Talk Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 8:55:27 PM To: Drew Clark via Talk Cc: Butch Bussen Subject: window eyes speaking extra word I'm not sure if my previous note made it to the list. In firefox, as I move around, window-eyes keeps saying the word serial before links and edit boxes. I'm not certain when it started or what I might have done. I've rebooted and serial seems to still be there somehow. Any thoughts? Thanks much. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: window eyes speaking extra word
Thanks much. Some how, I never saw his response. I'll try that. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Sat, 3 Apr 2021, Rod Hutton wrote: Hi Butch, Actually, Steve Clower responded to your message with the suggestion that you may have accidentally used the hot Key control insert F which labels a field. He suggested that this may have happened if you had been searching for the word ?serial? and accidentally pressed the above hot Key. so, the solution is to find an edit box in your browser, press the above hot key, and then clear the edit box, which probably contains the word ?serial?, and then press enter to close the dialogue. Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS From: Talk on behalf of Butch Bussen via Talk Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 8:55:27 PM To: Drew Clark via Talk Cc: Butch Bussen Subject: window eyes speaking extra word I'm not sure if my previous note made it to the list. In firefox, as I move around, window-eyes keeps saying the word serial before links and edit boxes. I'm not certain when it started or what I might have done. I've rebooted and serial seems to still be there somehow. Any thoughts? Thanks much. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Gold wave, was: RE: window-eyes speaking extra word
Hi Tom, Great to hear from you! That will be the day when I beat you. Grin Take care, Rod Sent from Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS From: Talk on behalf of Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 11:37:42 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: tom.kings...@charter.net Subject: Gold wave, was: RE: window-eyes speaking extra word Eh, you beat me to it, Rod. For Comcast, note there are two apps for Gold Wave: GoldWave and GoldWave_enhanced. I never used the program, so I don't know anything about them. Good luck, Tom -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 10:54 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: Re: window-eyes speaking extra word Hi, Well, you could look in here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wxkw8ub1whk3b5e/WEApps.zip?dl=1 Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook for the Mac On 2021-04-01, 4:40 PM, "Talk on behalf of Comcast via Talk" wrote: Does anyone have an archive of all the WE set files prior to 9.4 such as the ones released for version 8? I am primarily looking for a gold wave set file, but I never found it in my release of version 9.4.1. It doesn’t seem to be anywhere in the WE folder. Thanks a lot for your help, Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 1, 2021, at 8:26 AM, Stephen Clower via Talk wrote: > > Hi Butch, > > You may have unintentionally pressed CTRL+INSERT+F instead of CTRL+SHIFT+F to issue the find command— easy enough to do especially if you regularly jump between NVDA and other screen readers. This keystroke brings up the field labeler instead. Once you are in the browser and hear “serial,” press CTRL+INSERT+F to re-open the field label dialog, clear out any text you find there, and press Enter. No need to save anything as this will be done for you automatically. > > Best, > Steve > > >> On Apr 1, 2021, at 8:30 AM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: >> >> I'm not sure where it came from, maybe I did a search at one time with the find command. Anyhow, Now as I'm going through links and edit boxes with the tab key, it preceeds each with the word serial, such as "serial link" and so forth. Anyone know how to clear this. I've rebooted and no change. >> 73 >> Butch >> WA0VJR >> Node 3148 >> Wallace, ks. >> >> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40steve-audio.net. >> For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/stepserve%40comcast.net. > For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscriptio
Re: window eyes speaking extra word
Hi Butch, Actually, Steve Clower responded to your message with the suggestion that you may have accidentally used the hot Key control insert F which labels a field. He suggested that this may have happened if you had been searching for the word “serial“ and accidentally pressed the above hot Key. so, the solution is to find an edit box in your browser, press the above hot key, and then clear the edit box, which probably contains the word “serial“, and then press enter to close the dialogue. Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS From: Talk on behalf of Butch Bussen via Talk Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 8:55:27 PM To: Drew Clark via Talk Cc: Butch Bussen Subject: window eyes speaking extra word I'm not sure if my previous note made it to the list. In firefox, as I move around, window-eyes keeps saying the word serial before links and edit boxes. I'm not certain when it started or what I might have done. I've rebooted and serial seems to still be there somehow. Any thoughts? Thanks much. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
window eyes speaking extra word
I'm not sure if my previous note made it to the list. In firefox, as I move around, window-eyes keeps saying the word serial before links and edit boxes. I'm not certain when it started or what I might have done. I've rebooted and serial seems to still be there somehow. Any thoughts? Thanks much. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Gold wave, was: RE: window-eyes speaking extra word
Eh, you beat me to it, Rod. For Comcast, note there are two apps for Gold Wave: GoldWave and GoldWave_enhanced. I never used the program, so I don't know anything about them. Good luck, Tom -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 10:54 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: Re: window-eyes speaking extra word Hi, Well, you could look in here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wxkw8ub1whk3b5e/WEApps.zip?dl=1 Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook for the Mac On 2021-04-01, 4:40 PM, "Talk on behalf of Comcast via Talk" wrote: Does anyone have an archive of all the WE set files prior to 9.4 such as the ones released for version 8? I am primarily looking for a gold wave set file, but I never found it in my release of version 9.4.1. It doesn’t seem to be anywhere in the WE folder. Thanks a lot for your help, Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 1, 2021, at 8:26 AM, Stephen Clower via Talk wrote: > > Hi Butch, > > You may have unintentionally pressed CTRL+INSERT+F instead of CTRL+SHIFT+F to issue the find command— easy enough to do especially if you regularly jump between NVDA and other screen readers. This keystroke brings up the field labeler instead. Once you are in the browser and hear “serial,” press CTRL+INSERT+F to re-open the field label dialog, clear out any text you find there, and press Enter. No need to save anything as this will be done for you automatically. > > Best, > Steve > > >> On Apr 1, 2021, at 8:30 AM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: >> >> I'm not sure where it came from, maybe I did a search at one time with the find command. Anyhow, Now as I'm going through links and edit boxes with the tab key, it preceeds each with the word serial, such as "serial link" and so forth. Anyone know how to clear this. I've rebooted and no change. >> 73 >> Butch >> WA0VJR >> Node 3148 >> Wallace, ks. >> >> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40steve-audio.net. >> For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/stepserve%40comcast.net. > For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: window-eyes speaking extra word
Hi, Well, you could look in here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wxkw8ub1whk3b5e/WEApps.zip?dl=1 Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook for the Mac On 2021-04-01, 4:40 PM, "Talk on behalf of Comcast via Talk" wrote: Does anyone have an archive of all the WE set files prior to 9.4 such as the ones released for version 8? I am primarily looking for a gold wave set file, but I never found it in my release of version 9.4.1. It doesn’t seem to be anywhere in the WE folder. Thanks a lot for your help, Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 1, 2021, at 8:26 AM, Stephen Clower via Talk wrote: > > Hi Butch, > > You may have unintentionally pressed CTRL+INSERT+F instead of CTRL+SHIFT+F to issue the find command— easy enough to do especially if you regularly jump between NVDA and other screen readers. This keystroke brings up the field labeler instead. Once you are in the browser and hear “serial,” press CTRL+INSERT+F to re-open the field label dialog, clear out any text you find there, and press Enter. No need to save anything as this will be done for you automatically. > > Best, > Steve > > >> On Apr 1, 2021, at 8:30 AM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: >> >> I'm not sure where it came from, maybe I did a search at one time with the find command. Anyhow, Now as I'm going through links and edit boxes with the tab key, it preceeds each with the word serial, such as "serial link" and so forth. Anyone know how to clear this. I've rebooted and no change. >> 73 >> Butch >> WA0VJR >> Node 3148 >> Wallace, ks. >> >> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40steve-audio.net. >> For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/stepserve%40comcast.net. > For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: window-eyes speaking extra word
Isn't it an app, rather than a set file, if I remember corrrectly. On Thu, 01 Apr 2021 16:40:34 -0400, Comcast via Talk wrote: > > Does anyone have an archive of all the WE set files prior to 9.4 such as the > ones released for version 8? I am primarily looking for a gold wave set file, > but I never found it in my release of version 9.4.1. It doesn’t seem to be > anywhere in the WE folder. Thanks a lot for your help, > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Apr 1, 2021, at 8:26 AM, Stephen Clower via Talk > > wrote: > > > > Hi Butch, > > > > You may have unintentionally pressed CTRL+INSERT+F instead of CTRL+SHIFT+F > > to issue the find command— easy enough to do especially if you regularly > > jump between NVDA and other screen readers. This keystroke brings up the > > field labeler instead. Once you are in the browser and hear “serial,” press > > CTRL+INSERT+F to re-open the field label dialog, clear out any text you > > find there, and press Enter. No need to save anything as this will be done > > for you automatically. > > > > Best, > > Steve > > > > > >> On Apr 1, 2021, at 8:30 AM, Butch Bussen via Talk > >> wrote: > >> > >> I'm not sure where it came from, maybe I did a search at one time with > >> the find command. Anyhow, Now as I'm going through links and edit boxes > >> with the tab key, it preceeds each with the word serial, such as "serial > >> link" and so forth. Anyone know how to clear this. I've rebooted and no > >> change. > >> 73 > >> Butch > >> WA0VJR > >> Node 3148 > >> Wallace, ks. > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > >> > >> For membership options, visit > >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40steve-audio.net. > >> For subscription options, visit > >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > >> List archives can be found at > >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > > > ___ > > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > > > For membership options, visit > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/stepserve%40comcast.net. > > For subscription options, visit > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > List archives can be found at > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/covici%40ccs.covici.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una cov...@ccs.covici.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: window-eyes speaking extra word
Does anyone have an archive of all the WE set files prior to 9.4 such as the ones released for version 8? I am primarily looking for a gold wave set file, but I never found it in my release of version 9.4.1. It doesn’t seem to be anywhere in the WE folder. Thanks a lot for your help, Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 1, 2021, at 8:26 AM, Stephen Clower via Talk > wrote: > > Hi Butch, > > You may have unintentionally pressed CTRL+INSERT+F instead of CTRL+SHIFT+F to > issue the find command— easy enough to do especially if you regularly jump > between NVDA and other screen readers. This keystroke brings up the field > labeler instead. Once you are in the browser and hear “serial,” press > CTRL+INSERT+F to re-open the field label dialog, clear out any text you find > there, and press Enter. No need to save anything as this will be done for you > automatically. > > Best, > Steve > > >> On Apr 1, 2021, at 8:30 AM, Butch Bussen via Talk >> wrote: >> >> I'm not sure where it came from, maybe I did a search at one time with the >> find command. Anyhow, Now as I'm going through links and edit boxes with >> the tab key, it preceeds each with the word serial, such as "serial link" >> and so forth. Anyone know how to clear this. I've rebooted and no change. >> 73 >> Butch >> WA0VJR >> Node 3148 >> Wallace, ks. >> >> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40steve-audio.net. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/stepserve%40comcast.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: window-eyes speaking extra word
Hi Butch, You may have unintentionally pressed CTRL+INSERT+F instead of CTRL+SHIFT+F to issue the find command— easy enough to do especially if you regularly jump between NVDA and other screen readers. This keystroke brings up the field labeler instead. Once you are in the browser and hear “serial,” press CTRL+INSERT+F to re-open the field label dialog, clear out any text you find there, and press Enter. No need to save anything as this will be done for you automatically. Best, Steve > On Apr 1, 2021, at 8:30 AM, Butch Bussen via Talk > wrote: > > I'm not sure where it came from, maybe I did a search at one time with the > find command. Anyhow, Now as I'm going through links and edit boxes with the > tab key, it preceeds each with the word serial, such as "serial link" and so > forth. Anyone know how to clear this. I've rebooted and no change. > 73 > Butch > WA0VJR > Node 3148 > Wallace, ks. > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40steve-audio.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
window-eyes speaking extra word
I'm not sure where it came from, maybe I did a search at one time with the find command. Anyhow, Now as I'm going through links and edit boxes with the tab key, it preceeds each with the word serial, such as "serial link" and so forth. Anyone know how to clear this. I've rebooted and no change. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Can't find a Window-Eyes command
On a web page, just press F8 and scroll through the information that you wish to append. Then press F8 again to copy it to the clipboard. As for appending to the Clipboard, that is not a Window-Eyes command and I really never use it so I forget it. At any rate, that is not specific to window-Eyes but a Windows command. -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of David via Talk Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2021 1:09 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: David Subject: Re: Can't find a Window-Eyes command Searching my archives, I did find an app named Append To Clipboard. If this is the one you are referring to, I do not know. In the introductory of the app, it states the hotkeys to be: Ctrl-Windows-C, and Ctrl-Windows-V. If this is not what you are looking for, then I am afraid the others are correct - in that WinEyes never offered anything more. There might exist some freeware, stand-alone, third-party software that might offer you the capability you are looking for, and which is not linked with any screen readers. Looking for such, do a simple search on the net something like: Append to clipboard, Win7 or any other version number, according to your Windows flavor. On 3/21/2021 1:37 PM, David via Talk wrote: > Wonder if he is refering to a hotkey from one of the apps. Seem to > remember there was a Clipboard app of some kind, that would provide > such a feature. Will have to run through my colledction here, and see > if I can find the app, and hence the hotkey. Unless someone else would > happen to know. > > > On 3/21/2021 12:08 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: > >> Donald, >> >> >> I just went through the hotkey manager with a fine tooth comb, and >> can find no such command. >> >> >> Are you absolutely sure that WE got as far as to even introduce such >> a command before its tragic end of life? I believe both JAWS and NVDA >> have such a command, or maybe a way of accessing such a function >> built into windows 10, but I really don't believe Window-Eyes ever >> introduced anything relating to that particular function. >> >> On 3/20/2021 8:41 PM, Donald L. Roberts via Talk wrote: >>> Would someone please tell me the Window-Eyes command to append to >>> clipboard. >>> >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> >>> Don Roberts >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of >>> the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> >>> For membership options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. >>> For subscription options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> List archives can be found at >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/trailerdavid%40hotmail.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/trailerdavid%40hotmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/amandainparadise777%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: window eyes
I agree with you but sadly for Window-Eyes for Office, I can no longer get Code Factory to acknowledge my license for Eloquence. I even bought a new license last Fall with no uses on it. I just literally missed out on upgrading to Window-Eyes last version and I'd still pay for it today as I agree, I still prefer many aspects of window-Eyes over JAWS but now I'm being forced to use JAWS. I get nowhere with Vispero's Technical support and I was a Tech support person for FS at one time. There's issues with JAWS and what appears to be certain HTML or similar content and it crashes JAWS and Outlook regularly. I sent them samples and they wouldn't acknowledge it. I know that GW Micro wouldn't tolerate such off-putting and poor responsiveness. -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Loy Green via Talk Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 8:03 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Loy Green Subject: Re: window eyes I STILL have WE on my Win10 computers as a backup screen reader and it still works quite well. In a few cases it will work better than JAWS. Being it has not been updated in 4or 5 years, shows how great a screen reader WE was. - Original Message - From: "Dennis Long via Talk" To: Cc: "Dennis Long" Sent: Fr\iday, March 19, 2021 3:06 AM Subject: window eyes > How is WE performing these days? I would expect it to have issues > with Windows 10. Is this the case? It was a very good screen reader. > > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gm ail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/amandainparadi se777%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Can't find a Window-Eyes command
Hi Donald, Here is a link for the append to clipboard app. I can't tell you much about it, but I did use it for a while back in the day, so to speak. https://www.dropbox.com/s/2vqos3egodiloxf/appendtoclipboard2.8.wepm?dl=0 Carol On 3/20/2021 9:41 PM, Donald L. Roberts via Talk wrote: Would someone please tell me the Window-Eyes command to append to clipboard. Thanks. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/carogsmith%40embarqmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Can't find a Window-Eyes command
Wasn't there a script that did that. I never used it as I run clipmate. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Sun, 21 Mar 2021, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: Donald, I just went through the hotkey manager with a fine tooth comb, and can find no such command. Are you absolutely sure that WE got as far as to even introduce such a command before its tragic end of life? I believe both JAWS and NVDA have such a command, or maybe a way of accessing such a function built into windows 10, but I really don't believe Window-Eyes ever introduced anything relating to that particular function. On 3/20/2021 8:41 PM, Donald L. Roberts via Talk wrote: Would someone please tell me the Window-Eyes command to append to clipboard. Thanks. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/butchb%40shellworld.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Can't find a Window-Eyes command
Searching my archives, I did find an app named Append To Clipboard. If this is the one you are referring to, I do not know. In the introductory of the app, it states the hotkeys to be: Ctrl-Windows-C, and Ctrl-Windows-V. If this is not what you are looking for, then I am afraid the others are correct - in that WinEyes never offered anything more. There might exist some freeware, stand-alone, third-party software that might offer you the capability you are looking for, and which is not linked with any screen readers. Looking for such, do a simple search on the net something like: Append to clipboard, Win7 or any other version number, according to your Windows flavor. On 3/21/2021 1:37 PM, David via Talk wrote: Wonder if he is refering to a hotkey from one of the apps. Seem to remember there was a Clipboard app of some kind, that would provide such a feature. Will have to run through my colledction here, and see if I can find the app, and hence the hotkey. Unless someone else would happen to know. On 3/21/2021 12:08 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: Donald, I just went through the hotkey manager with a fine tooth comb, and can find no such command. Are you absolutely sure that WE got as far as to even introduce such a command before its tragic end of life? I believe both JAWS and NVDA have such a command, or maybe a way of accessing such a function built into windows 10, but I really don't believe Window-Eyes ever introduced anything relating to that particular function. On 3/20/2021 8:41 PM, Donald L. Roberts via Talk wrote: Would someone please tell me the Window-Eyes command to append to clipboard. Thanks. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/trailerdavid%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/trailerdavid%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Can't find a Window-Eyes command
Donald, unless it is in a script, I don't think WE has such a command. At 07:08 AM 3/21/2021, Larry Higgins via Talk, wrote: Donald, IÂ just went through the hotkey manager with a fine tooth comb, and can find no such command. Are you absolutely sure that WE got as far as to even introduce such a command before its tragic end of life? I believe both JAWS and NVDA have such a command, or maybe a way of accessing such a function built into windows 10, but I really don't believe Window-Eyes ever introduced anything relating to that particular function. On 3/20/2021 8:41 PM, Donald L. Roberts via Talk wrote: > Would someone please tell me the Window-Eyes command to append to > clipboard. > > > Thanks. > > > Don Roberts > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jschwery%40centurylink.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com John ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Can't find a Window-Eyes command
Wonder if he is refering to a hotkey from one of the apps. Seem to remember there was a Clipboard app of some kind, that would provide such a feature. Will have to run through my colledction here, and see if I can find the app, and hence the hotkey. Unless someone else would happen to know. On 3/21/2021 12:08 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: Donald, I just went through the hotkey manager with a fine tooth comb, and can find no such command. Are you absolutely sure that WE got as far as to even introduce such a command before its tragic end of life? I believe both JAWS and NVDA have such a command, or maybe a way of accessing such a function built into windows 10, but I really don't believe Window-Eyes ever introduced anything relating to that particular function. On 3/20/2021 8:41 PM, Donald L. Roberts via Talk wrote: Would someone please tell me the Window-Eyes command to append to clipboard. Thanks. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/trailerdavid%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Can't find a Window-Eyes command
Donald, I just went through the hotkey manager with a fine tooth comb, and can find no such command. Are you absolutely sure that WE got as far as to even introduce such a command before its tragic end of life? I believe both JAWS and NVDA have such a command, or maybe a way of accessing such a function built into windows 10, but I really don't believe Window-Eyes ever introduced anything relating to that particular function. On 3/20/2021 8:41 PM, Donald L. Roberts via Talk wrote: Would someone please tell me the Window-Eyes command to append to clipboard. Thanks. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Can't find a Window-Eyes command
Would someone please tell me the Window-Eyes command to append to clipboard. Thanks. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: window eyes
I STILL have WE on my Win10 computers as a backup screen reader and it still works quite well. In a few cases it will work better than JAWS. Being it has not been updated in 4or 5 years, shows how great a screen reader WE was. - Original Message - From: "Dennis Long via Talk" To: Cc: "Dennis Long" Sent: Fr\iday, March 19, 2021 3:06 AM Subject: window eyes How is WE performing these days? I would expect it to have issues with Windows 10. Is this the case? It was a very good screen reader. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
window eyes
How is WE performing these days? I would expect it to have issues with Windows 10. Is this the case? It was a very good screen reader. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Window-Eyes and latest Windows Insider build
I had a similar experience at about the same time. That does cause me to wonder whether a Microsoft update across Windows 8 and 10 might be causing this. Sadly, I have misplaced my Window-Eyes 9.5.4 CD. Pretty desperate to try to reinstall, even though this news is a little discouraging. There are still several things WE does better than screen readers now on the market--some of them in Microsoft Office 2013. For me, it's a matter of productivity. Richard Richard Petty He, Him, His richard.pe...@earthlink.net -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.petty=earthlink@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Peter Chin via Talk Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 9:28 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Peter Chin Subject: Re: Window-Eyes and latest Windows Insider build Hello all, I got the same message after restarting Windows 8.1 as instructed by Window-Eyes. I am wondering whether it is one of the drivers in both Windows 8 and 10 that is causing this message. For the most part, my Window-eyes 9.5.4 is behaving well. -Original Message- From: Joseph Norton via Talk Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 8:07 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: joseph.nor...@gmail.com Subject: RE: Window-Eyes and latest Windows Insider build Hi there: This happened after the reboot, not during the install. Install went smoothly and I was prompted to reboot. I have no info about the error itself, as the diag tool didn't describe what the problem was. I can repeat it if I delete the GW Micro folder under %appdata%. As for removal, I've got the removal tool if I need it. Again, though, WE seems to be doing about as well as it did before. Got it monitoring BARD express as I'm downloading some books. It still plays real nice with BARD express. I'm sorry I can't say which build of Windows 10 this applies to, as it may happen in earlier builds. I'm using insider builds, because I'm playing with the Windows Subsystem for Linux also, and installation of this system is a breeze using the insider builds. But, that's neither here nor there. Cheers. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/peter.chinpk%4 0gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/richard.petty% 40earthlink.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-Eyes and latest Windows Insider build
Hello all, I got the same message after restarting Windows 8.1 as instructed by Window-Eyes. I am wondering whether it is one of the drivers in both Windows 8 and 10 that is causing this message. For the most part, my Window-eyes 9.5.4 is behaving well. -Original Message- From: Joseph Norton via Talk Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 8:07 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: joseph.nor...@gmail.com Subject: RE: Window-Eyes and latest Windows Insider build Hi there: This happened after the reboot, not during the install. Install went smoothly and I was prompted to reboot. I have no info about the error itself, as the diag tool didn't describe what the problem was. I can repeat it if I delete the GW Micro folder under %appdata%. As for removal, I've got the removal tool if I need it. Again, though, WE seems to be doing about as well as it did before. Got it monitoring BARD express as I'm downloading some books. It still plays real nice with BARD express. I'm sorry I can't say which build of Windows 10 this applies to, as it may happen in earlier builds. I'm using insider builds, because I'm playing with the Windows Subsystem for Linux also, and installation of this system is a breeze using the insider builds. But, that's neither here nor there. Cheers. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/peter.chinpk%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Window-Eyes and latest Windows Insider build
Hi there: This happened after the reboot, not during the install. Install went smoothly and I was prompted to reboot. I have no info about the error itself, as the diag tool didn't describe what the problem was. I can repeat it if I delete the GW Micro folder under %appdata%. As for removal, I've got the removal tool if I need it. Again, though, WE seems to be doing about as well as it did before. Got it monitoring BARD express as I'm downloading some books. It still plays real nice with BARD express. I'm sorry I can't say which build of Windows 10 this applies to, as it may happen in earlier builds. I'm using insider builds, because I'm playing with the Windows Subsystem for Linux also, and installation of this system is a breeze using the insider builds. But, that's neither here nor there. Cheers. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-Eyes and latest Windows Insider build
have you rebooted the computer since you did the setup? it doesn't install the video drivers until you do. i don't know if the demo has the emergency removal tool. it is on the full release on the installation cd if someone has it. but you would have to run it with narrator running and it won't announce anything until it has finished and it says window eyes has been completely removed. -Original Message- From: Joseph Norton via Talk Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 3:41 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: joseph.nor...@gmail.com Subject: Window-Eyes and latest Windows Insider build Just installed WE 9.5.4 demo on Windows 10 Version 2004 (OS Build 21277.1000). This is the latest insider build. Install went smoothly, but, a few seconds after first run, in addition to the setup wizard, I got this: A problem has been detected that could potentially cause Window-Eyes to behave inefficiently. Sending information about this problem is strongly recommended so that the issue can be addressed. Do you want to send information about this problem now? If you choose Yes, a report will be sent to Ai Squared support technicians for investigation. If you choose No, no information will be sent. If you choose Cancel, you will not be prompted again for this version of Window-Eyes. Yes No Cancel Just for the heck of it, I said "Yes", but got an e-mail telling me about JAWS 18-you know how long that has been in place. I wasn't even expecting that, because most of GW's Web site is gone. It's gutted, almost like my house was after the fire in 2007. No other anomalies, other than what you all probably know about already. But, it's still chugging along. Still seems to work under latest Edge, and need to put Chrome back in here. I have to do almost a complete wipe of the HD to re-install the demo, so going to re-install my essential programs. My system stays in a state of flux anyway, so no big deal. Cheers! ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Window-Eyes and latest Windows Insider build
Just installed WE 9.5.4 demo on Windows 10 Version 2004 (OS Build 21277.1000). This is the latest insider build. Install went smoothly, but, a few seconds after first run, in addition to the setup wizard, I got this: A problem has been detected that could potentially cause Window-Eyes to behave inefficiently. Sending information about this problem is strongly recommended so that the issue can be addressed. Do you want to send information about this problem now? If you choose Yes, a report will be sent to Ai Squared support technicians for investigation. If you choose No, no information will be sent. If you choose Cancel, you will not be prompted again for this version of Window-Eyes. Yes No Cancel Just for the heck of it, I said "Yes", but got an e-mail telling me about JAWS 18-you know how long that has been in place. I wasn't even expecting that, because most of GW's Web site is gone. It's gutted, almost like my house was after the fire in 2007. No other anomalies, other than what you all probably know about already. But, it's still chugging along. Still seems to work under latest Edge, and need to put Chrome back in here. I have to do almost a complete wipe of the HD to re-install the demo, so going to re-install my essential programs. My system stays in a state of flux anyway, so no big deal. Cheers! ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: window eyes old tutorial archive
hi guys, any one has the zip file for window eyes audio tutorial on the cd? doesn't matter what version.. could you share it with me by uploading somewhere? thanks k On 10/19/18, Drew Clark wrote: > hi, > > since window eyes is no longer developped, i want to collect all > tutorials for window eyes, there is audio tutorials on gw audio video > archive and it brings to 2005, but if possible i want to get from the > begining, maybe during the days where cassettes were used, window eyes > 1.0 audio tutorials and other tutorials. > > do any of you have it somewhere? > > thanks > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: window-eyes serial
Sorry. I never heard that that was the case with office. Pam. -Original Message- From: David via Talk Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 5:44 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: David Subject: Re: window-eyes serial To my knowledge, when you are running the Office version of WinEyes, you would need additional license to run any speech synthesizer apart from Eloquence. Since the WinEyes+Office project was discontinued several years ago, I am afraid you won't get much farther. You could of course try calling Freedom Scientific, and ask if they could sell you some license for Dectalk. Others might have better ideas. Not sure if the DecTalk manufacturer would sell you a standalone license, but might be worth a try. David On 11/21/2020 10:31 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote: Hello to all, I just installed the latest version of window-eyes. Is there any way to use the dectalk access 32 synthesizer? I have the window-eyes for office version. Thanks, Darrell http://www.startechconsulting.org Phone or Text: 865-315-7606 Hours: Tuesday-Friday: 9:00AM-5:00PM Saturday & Sunday: By appointment only ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/trailerdavid%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/pammygirl99%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: window-eyes serial
It is in there, along with the rest of the different voices. That's what I'm using right now. I don't like the rest of them. Pam. -Original Message- From: Darrell Bowles via Talk Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 4:31 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: Darrell Bowles Subject: window-eyes serial Hello to all, I just installed the latest version of window-eyes. Is there any way to use the dectalk access 32 synthesizer? I have the window-eyes for office version. Thanks, Darrell http://www.startechconsulting.org Phone or Text: 865-315-7606 Hours: Tuesday-Friday: 9:00AM-5:00PM Saturday & Sunday: By appointment only ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/pammygirl99%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: window-eyes serial
To my knowledge, when you are running the Office version of WinEyes, you would need additional license to run any speech synthesizer apart from Eloquence. Since the WinEyes+Office project was discontinued several years ago, I am afraid you won't get much farther. You could of course try calling Freedom Scientific, and ask if they could sell you some license for Dectalk. Others might have better ideas. Not sure if the DecTalk manufacturer would sell you a standalone license, but might be worth a try. David On 11/21/2020 10:31 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote: Hello to all, I just installed the latest version of window-eyes. Is there any way to use the dectalk access 32 synthesizer? I have the window-eyes for office version. Thanks, Darrell http://www.startechconsulting.org Phone or Text: 865-315-7606 Hours: Tuesday-Friday: 9:00AM-5:00PM Saturday & Sunday: By appointment only ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/trailerdavid%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
window-eyes serial
Hello to all, I just installed the latest version of window-eyes. Is there any way to use the dectalk access 32 synthesizer? I have the window-eyes for office version. Thanks, Darrell http://www.startechconsulting.org Phone or Text: 865-315-7606 Hours: Tuesday-Friday: 9:00AM-5:00PM Saturday & Sunday: By appointment only ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Window-eyes enhanced app
Hi Lloyd, Yes, and I sent Donald a message with a DropBox link to download the app. Smile. Peace and safety, in these trying times, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk Sent: November 19, 2020 2:35 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Lloyd Rasmussen Subject: Re: Window-eyes enhanced app It's actually called the Windows Enhanced app. Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD http://lras.home.sprynet.com -Original Message- From: Donald L. Roberts via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 11:01 PM To: Rod Hutton via Talk Cc: Donald L. Roberts Subject: Re: Window-eyes enhanced app Hello Rod and other interested persons, I don't know how I did it, but I lost my copy of the "Window-eyes enhanced" app. Please could you send it to me as an email attachment. As the list probably does not accept attachments, please send to: donald.robert...@gmail.com Thanks Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lras%40sprynet.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes enhanced app
It's actually called the Windows Enhanced app. Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD http://lras.home.sprynet.com -Original Message- From: Donald L. Roberts via Talk Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 11:01 PM To: Rod Hutton via Talk Cc: Donald L. Roberts Subject: Re: Window-eyes enhanced app Hello Rod and other interested persons, I don't know how I did it, but I lost my copy of the "Window-eyes enhanced" app. Please could you send it to me as an email attachment. As the list probably does not accept attachments, please send to: donald.robert...@gmail.com Thanks Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lras%40sprynet.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes enhanced app
If you go to your Program Files (86), Then to GWMicro, and then to WinEyes. This is the program folder for the WinEyes installation. In my case, there are 269 entries, and the file you are looking for, is number 262. So easiest is to go to the end of the list, by hitting the End key, and scroll a few upwards. On my system, it is located directly above the WindowsLive file. It is clearly stated as WindowsEnhance.wepm. Hit Enter, and you should be rolling. In case you do not find the file here either, let me know, and I will send it to you. David On 11/19/2020 5:01 AM, Donald L. Roberts via Talk wrote: Hello Rod and other interested persons, I don't know how I did it, but I lost my copy of the "Window-eyes enhanced" app. Please could you send it to me as an email attachment. As the list probably does not accept attachments, please send to: donald.robert...@gmail.com Thanks Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/trailerdavid%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes enhanced app
Hello Rod and other interested persons, I don't know how I did it, but I lost my copy of the "Window-eyes enhanced" app. Please could you send it to me as an email attachment. As the list probably does not accept attachments, please send to: donald.robert...@gmail.com Thanks Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-Eyes for Office and Code Factory eloquence/Eloquence will not validate/says I need an Internet Connection
Hi Darrell, My understanding was that the window eyes for office serial number was built in. As I recall, going from memory, it was WEOFFICE. I hope this helps, and good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS From: Talk on behalf of Darrell Bowles via Talk Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 2:06 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Darrell Bowles Subject: RE: Window-Eyes for Office and Code Factory eloquence/Eloquence will not validate/says I need an Internet Connection My other question is if I install window-eyes for office, will it still work without a serial number? -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 10:53 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Amanda Lee Subject: RE: Window-Eyes for Office and Code Factory eloquence/Eloquence will not validate/says I need an Internet Connection If you are referring to a license for Eloquence for Window-Eyes for Office, you can or could as I am not sure where Eloquence for Windows stands right now. I have really enjoyed using it and I was using it with Narrator as well when I needed to use Narrator. I am going to wait a couple of days before I go buy another Eloquence for windows License as I was fairly confident that I had not used all of my three activations and I have another License I purchased for another computer and it didn't work. Here's the link: https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcodefactoryglobal.com%2Fapp-store%2Feloquence-for-windowsdata=02%7C01%7C%7Cfa61fcde3e964dd921dd08d86bfe72ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637378087874858516sdata=DoBDHZKDzwN8Hzu41ehMPjArh8ZXlnYoIMsxEN5jK18%3Dreserved=0 How can I open the Windows Speech control panel to select Eloquence for Windows as my default TTS? It is located in a different place, depending on the version of Windows that you have (often you can find it under the "Ease of Access" option in the control panel). One universal way to access it is to type the following into the Run prompt (which appears as an option after right clicking the Windows Start button): %windir%\System32\speech\SpeechUX\sapi.cpl Then, be certain to select SAPI under Synthesizers when switching a Screen Reader from its Default Synthesizer to Code Factory Eloquence. -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 6:21 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Darrell Bowles Subject: RE: Window-Eyes for Office and Code Factory eloquence/Eloquence will not validate/says I need an Internet Connection Can I get a license for my window eyes for office? Thanks, Darrell -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 6:14 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Amanda Lee Subject: Window-Eyes for Office and Code Factory eloquence/Eloquence will not validate/says I need an Internet Connection The subject says it all. Occasionally, the purchased License of Eloquence for Windows will lose its authorization. I just apply my key and validate. Today, I was unable to validate and I have one license on one computer. The message: There's a problem activating your License. Make sure you have a working Internet Connection. I certainly do have an always on type of Internet connection. I am curious if anyone else has encountered this issue today or recently? Code Factory seems to still be producing various versions of Eloquence as there's now a version for NVDA, so I doubt they're out of business? As we know, Code Factory are very hands off and do not offer much, if any, technical support. If anyone knows if the Eloquence for Windows Version 1.0 has been decommissioned or otherwise, please share. I have another license and tried it's key as here's two remaining uses and still received the same error. Any news, suggestions or otherwise are welcomed! I've been using JAWS today and . Although I use it for work, I'd rather use Window-Eyes for as long as I can but the Microsoft Voices lag in responsiveness. Thanks and be safe all! Amanda Lee ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.windo w-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Fdgbowles%2540msn.comd ata=02%7C01%7C%7C00dcb56ad0db4d862cfe08d86bd787b7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435 %7C1%7C0%7C637377920717545575sdata=H0QSPJcbZXp%2FOLkfKNG2Rjn7pb 7H46YcsaoqcOOxqeM%3Dreserved=0. For subscription options, visit https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.windo w-eyes.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7C00dcb 56ad0db4d86
RE: Window-Eyes for Office and Code Factory eloquence/Eloquence will not validate/says I need an Internet Connection
Hi, You could be right. I use Windows 10 for Operating System and Defender. This hasn't occurred before so heads up for anyone else who encounters this same issue. -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via Talk Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 6:26 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Steve Nutt Subject: RE: Window-Eyes for Office and Code Factory eloquence/Eloquence will not validate/says I need an Internet Connection Hi, Sounds like a classic case of a firewall blocking it to me. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW T: +44(0)1438-742286 M: +44(0)7956-334938 F: +44(0)1438-759589 E: st...@comproom.co.uk W: https://www.comproom.co.uk -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk Sent: 08 October 2020 23:14 To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Amanda Lee Subject: Window-Eyes for Office and Code Factory eloquence/Eloquence will not validate/says I need an Internet Connection The subject says it all. Occasionally, the purchased License of Eloquence for Windows will lose its authorization. I just apply my key and validate. Today, I was unable to validate and I have one license on one computer. The message: There's a problem activating your License. Make sure you have a working Internet Connection. I certainly do have an always on type of Internet connection. I am curious if anyone else has encountered this issue today or recently? Code Factory seems to still be producing various versions of Eloquence as there's now a version for NVDA, so I doubt they're out of business? As we know, Code Factory are very hands off and do not offer much, if any, technical support. If anyone knows if the Eloquence for Windows Version 1.0 has been decommissioned or otherwise, please share. I have another license and tried it's key as here's two remaining uses and still received the same error. Any news, suggestions or otherwise are welcomed! I've been using JAWS today and . Although I use it for work, I'd rather use Window-Eyes for as long as I can but the Microsoft Voices lag in responsiveness. Thanks and be safe all! Amanda Lee ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40compro om.co.uk. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/amandainparadi se777%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Window-Eyes for Office and Code Factory eloquence/Eloquence will not validate/says I need an Internet Connection
Hi, Sounds like a classic case of a firewall blocking it to me. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW T: +44(0)1438-742286 M: +44(0)7956-334938 F: +44(0)1438-759589 E: st...@comproom.co.uk W: https://www.comproom.co.uk -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk Sent: 08 October 2020 23:14 To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Amanda Lee Subject: Window-Eyes for Office and Code Factory eloquence/Eloquence will not validate/says I need an Internet Connection The subject says it all. Occasionally, the purchased License of Eloquence for Windows will lose its authorization. I just apply my key and validate. Today, I was unable to validate and I have one license on one computer. The message: There's a problem activating your License. Make sure you have a working Internet Connection. I certainly do have an always on type of Internet connection. I am curious if anyone else has encountered this issue today or recently? Code Factory seems to still be producing various versions of Eloquence as there's now a version for NVDA, so I doubt they're out of business? As we know, Code Factory are very hands off and do not offer much, if any, technical support. If anyone knows if the Eloquence for Windows Version 1.0 has been decommissioned or otherwise, please share. I have another license and tried it's key as here's two remaining uses and still received the same error. Any news, suggestions or otherwise are welcomed! I've been using JAWS today and . Although I use it for work, I'd rather use Window-Eyes for as long as I can but the Microsoft Voices lag in responsiveness. Thanks and be safe all! Amanda Lee ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40compro om.co.uk. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Window-Eyes for Office and Code Factory eloquence/Eloquence will not validate/says I need an Internet Connection
My other question is if I install window-eyes for office, will it still work without a serial number? -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 10:53 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Amanda Lee Subject: RE: Window-Eyes for Office and Code Factory eloquence/Eloquence will not validate/says I need an Internet Connection If you are referring to a license for Eloquence for Window-Eyes for Office, you can or could as I am not sure where Eloquence for Windows stands right now. I have really enjoyed using it and I was using it with Narrator as well when I needed to use Narrator. I am going to wait a couple of days before I go buy another Eloquence for windows License as I was fairly confident that I had not used all of my three activations and I have another License I purchased for another computer and it didn't work. Here's the link: https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcodefactoryglobal.com%2Fapp-store%2Feloquence-for-windowsdata=02%7C01%7C%7Cfa61fcde3e964dd921dd08d86bfe72ff%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637378087874858516sdata=DoBDHZKDzwN8Hzu41ehMPjArh8ZXlnYoIMsxEN5jK18%3Dreserved=0 How can I open the Windows Speech control panel to select Eloquence for Windows as my default TTS? It is located in a different place, depending on the version of Windows that you have (often you can find it under the "Ease of Access" option in the control panel). One universal way to access it is to type the following into the Run prompt (which appears as an option after right clicking the Windows Start button): %windir%\System32\speech\SpeechUX\sapi.cpl Then, be certain to select SAPI under Synthesizers when switching a Screen Reader from its Default Synthesizer to Code Factory Eloquence. -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 6:21 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Darrell Bowles Subject: RE: Window-Eyes for Office and Code Factory eloquence/Eloquence will not validate/says I need an Internet Connection Can I get a license for my window eyes for office? Thanks, Darrell -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 6:14 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Amanda Lee Subject: Window-Eyes for Office and Code Factory eloquence/Eloquence will not validate/says I need an Internet Connection The subject says it all. Occasionally, the purchased License of Eloquence for Windows will lose its authorization. I just apply my key and validate. Today, I was unable to validate and I have one license on one computer. The message: There's a problem activating your License. Make sure you have a working Internet Connection. I certainly do have an always on type of Internet connection. I am curious if anyone else has encountered this issue today or recently? Code Factory seems to still be producing various versions of Eloquence as there's now a version for NVDA, so I doubt they're out of business? As we know, Code Factory are very hands off and do not offer much, if any, technical support. If anyone knows if the Eloquence for Windows Version 1.0 has been decommissioned or otherwise, please share. I have another license and tried it's key as here's two remaining uses and still received the same error. Any news, suggestions or otherwise are welcomed! I've been using JAWS today and . Although I use it for work, I'd rather use Window-Eyes for as long as I can but the Microsoft Voices lag in responsiveness. Thanks and be safe all! Amanda Lee ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.windo w-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Fdgbowles%2540msn.comd ata=02%7C01%7C%7C00dcb56ad0db4d862cfe08d86bd787b7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435 %7C1%7C0%7C637377920717545575sdata=H0QSPJcbZXp%2FOLkfKNG2Rjn7pb 7H46YcsaoqcOOxqeM%3Dreserved=0. For subscription options, visit https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.windo w-eyes.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7C00dcb 56ad0db4d862cfe08d86bd787b7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637 377920717545575sdata=jWvD8qUFrAOBP%2FjT1Q56xJFlNECxyZ1VyxPopwQNnCQ%3D mp;reserved=0 List archives can be found at https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.windo w-eyes.com%2Fprivate.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7C00dcb5 6ad0db4d862cfe08d86bd787b7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6373 77920717545575sdata=7I%2B36YTSTfPQQF3bwXGSJg15uQrIu%2BWZ3JRMZaeVjZU%3D&
RE: Window-Eyes for Office and Code Factory eloquence/Eloquence will not validate/says I need an Internet Connection
If you are referring to a license for Eloquence for Window-Eyes for Office, you can or could as I am not sure where Eloquence for Windows stands right now. I have really enjoyed using it and I was using it with Narrator as well when I needed to use Narrator. I am going to wait a couple of days before I go buy another Eloquence for windows License as I was fairly confident that I had not used all of my three activations and I have another License I purchased for another computer and it didn't work. Here's the link: http://codefactoryglobal.com/app-store/eloquence-for-windows How can I open the Windows Speech control panel to select Eloquence for Windows as my default TTS? It is located in a different place, depending on the version of Windows that you have (often you can find it under the "Ease of Access" option in the control panel). One universal way to access it is to type the following into the Run prompt (which appears as an option after right clicking the Windows Start button): %windir%\System32\speech\SpeechUX\sapi.cpl Then, be certain to select SAPI under Synthesizers when switching a Screen Reader from its Default Synthesizer to Code Factory Eloquence. -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 6:21 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Darrell Bowles Subject: RE: Window-Eyes for Office and Code Factory eloquence/Eloquence will not validate/says I need an Internet Connection Can I get a license for my window eyes for office? Thanks, Darrell -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 6:14 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Amanda Lee Subject: Window-Eyes for Office and Code Factory eloquence/Eloquence will not validate/says I need an Internet Connection The subject says it all. Occasionally, the purchased License of Eloquence for Windows will lose its authorization. I just apply my key and validate. Today, I was unable to validate and I have one license on one computer. The message: There's a problem activating your License. Make sure you have a working Internet Connection. I certainly do have an always on type of Internet connection. I am curious if anyone else has encountered this issue today or recently? Code Factory seems to still be producing various versions of Eloquence as there's now a version for NVDA, so I doubt they're out of business? As we know, Code Factory are very hands off and do not offer much, if any, technical support. If anyone knows if the Eloquence for Windows Version 1.0 has been decommissioned or otherwise, please share. I have another license and tried it's key as here's two remaining uses and still received the same error. Any news, suggestions or otherwise are welcomed! I've been using JAWS today and . Although I use it for work, I'd rather use Window-Eyes for as long as I can but the Microsoft Voices lag in responsiveness. Thanks and be safe all! Amanda Lee ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.windo w-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Fdgbowles%2540msn.comd ata=02%7C01%7C%7C00dcb56ad0db4d862cfe08d86bd787b7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435 %7C1%7C0%7C637377920717545575sdata=H0QSPJcbZXp%2FOLkfKNG2Rjn7pb 7H46YcsaoqcOOxqeM%3Dreserved=0. For subscription options, visit https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.windo w-eyes.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7C00dcb 56ad0db4d862cfe08d86bd787b7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637 377920717545575sdata=jWvD8qUFrAOBP%2FjT1Q56xJFlNECxyZ1VyxPopwQNnCQ%3D mp;reserved=0 List archives can be found at https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.windo w-eyes.com%2Fprivate.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7C00dcb5 6ad0db4d862cfe08d86bd787b7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6373 77920717545575sdata=7I%2B36YTSTfPQQF3bwXGSJg15uQrIu%2BWZ3JRMZaeVjZU%3D& amp;reserved=0 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/amandainparadi se777%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared.
RE: Window-Eyes for Office and Code Factory eloquence/Eloquence will not validate/says I need an Internet Connection
Can I get a license for my window eyes for office? Thanks, Darrell -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 6:14 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Amanda Lee Subject: Window-Eyes for Office and Code Factory eloquence/Eloquence will not validate/says I need an Internet Connection The subject says it all. Occasionally, the purchased License of Eloquence for Windows will lose its authorization. I just apply my key and validate. Today, I was unable to validate and I have one license on one computer. The message: There's a problem activating your License. Make sure you have a working Internet Connection. I certainly do have an always on type of Internet connection. I am curious if anyone else has encountered this issue today or recently? Code Factory seems to still be producing various versions of Eloquence as there's now a version for NVDA, so I doubt they're out of business? As we know, Code Factory are very hands off and do not offer much, if any, technical support. If anyone knows if the Eloquence for Windows Version 1.0 has been decommissioned or otherwise, please share. I have another license and tried it's key as here's two remaining uses and still received the same error. Any news, suggestions or otherwise are welcomed! I've been using JAWS today and . Although I use it for work, I'd rather use Window-Eyes for as long as I can but the Microsoft Voices lag in responsiveness. Thanks and be safe all! Amanda Lee ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Fdgbowles%2540msn.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7C00dcb56ad0db4d862cfe08d86bd787b7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637377920717545575sdata=H0QSPJcbZXp%2FOLkfKNG2Rjn7pb7H46YcsaoqcOOxqeM%3Dreserved=0. For subscription options, visit https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7C00dcb56ad0db4d862cfe08d86bd787b7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637377920717545575sdata=jWvD8qUFrAOBP%2FjT1Q56xJFlNECxyZ1VyxPopwQNnCQ%3Dreserved=0 List archives can be found at https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Fprivate.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7C00dcb56ad0db4d862cfe08d86bd787b7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637377920717545575sdata=7I%2B36YTSTfPQQF3bwXGSJg15uQrIu%2BWZ3JRMZaeVjZU%3Dreserved=0 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Window-Eyes for Office and Code Factory eloquence/Eloquence will not validate/says I need an Internet Connection
The subject says it all. Occasionally, the purchased License of Eloquence for Windows will lose its authorization. I just apply my key and validate. Today, I was unable to validate and I have one license on one computer. The message: There's a problem activating your License. Make sure you have a working Internet Connection. I certainly do have an always on type of Internet connection. I am curious if anyone else has encountered this issue today or recently? Code Factory seems to still be producing various versions of Eloquence as there's now a version for NVDA, so I doubt they're out of business? As we know, Code Factory are very hands off and do not offer much, if any, technical support. If anyone knows if the Eloquence for Windows Version 1.0 has been decommissioned or otherwise, please share. I have another license and tried it's key as here's two remaining uses and still received the same error. Any news, suggestions or otherwise are welcomed! I've been using JAWS today and . Although I use it for work, I'd rather use Window-Eyes for as long as I can but the Microsoft Voices lag in responsiveness. Thanks and be safe all! Amanda Lee ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Fwd: Window-Eyes still working on Windows 10 1909 for the most part
Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: Rod Hutton Date: October 4, 2020 at 9:29:37 AM EDT To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Window-Eyes still working on Windows 10 1909 for the most part Hi joseph, I am running window eyes on windows 10 2004. I am also using Microsoft 365 version of office with window eyes and the outlook enhanst app works perfectly. The important thing is to first install the correct package of the office set files and then install the office enhanced and Outlook enhanced apps. multiple reboots may be required as well as multiple re-installations of these apps, but, without exception, I am always able to get these apps working on windows 10. I wish you luck, and stay safe, Rod Sent from my iPhone On Oct 2, 2020, at 1:50 AM, Joseph Norton via Talk wrote: The subject says it all. Loaded my demo of WE 9.5.4 and it's still chugging along on Windows 10 version 1909. My device hasn't updated to 20-04 just yet, so can't speak for that. There are a few things not working, like the outlook addin, but, it could be worse. Running on a surface pro 7, fyi. Oh, one weirdness. When I check the about box, it says copyright 1995-2020. The executable is from 2017, but, the WETOOL.DLL shows today's date. Interesting. When I choose the About button, it says copyright ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-Eyes still working on Windows 10 1909 for the most part
Hi joseph, I am running window eyes on windows 10 2004. I am also using Microsoft 365 version of office with window eyes and the outlook enhanst app works perfectly. The important thing is to first install the correct package of the office set files and then install the office enhanced and Outlook enhanced apps. multiple reboots may be required as well as multiple re-installations of these apps, but, without exception, I am always able to get these apps working on windows 10. I wish you luck, and stay safe, Rod Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 2, 2020, at 1:50 AM, Joseph Norton via Talk > wrote: > > The subject says it all. > > > > Loaded my demo of WE 9.5.4 and it's still chugging along on Windows 10 > version 1909. My device hasn't updated to 20-04 just yet, so can't speak > for that. > > > > There are a few things not working, like the outlook addin, but, it could be > worse. > > > > Running on a surface pro 7, fyi. > > > > Oh, one weirdness. When I check the about box, it says copyright 1995-2020. > The executable is from 2017, but, the WETOOL.DLL shows today's date. > > > > Interesting. > > > > > > > > > When I choose the About button, it says copyright > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Window-Eyes still working on Windows 10 1909 for the most part
The subject says it all. Loaded my demo of WE 9.5.4 and it's still chugging along on Windows 10 version 1909. My device hasn't updated to 20-04 just yet, so can't speak for that. There are a few things not working, like the outlook addin, but, it could be worse. Running on a surface pro 7, fyi. Oh, one weirdness. When I check the about box, it says copyright 1995-2020. The executable is from 2017, but, the WETOOL.DLL shows today's date. Interesting. When I choose the About button, it says copyright ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: a possibly corrupt Window-eyes script
Hi Peter, Here is the list of files which, at one time, needed to be disabled in order for Window-Eyes to load properly: Eloquence Fix Hotspot JAWS quick key WEDiag Windows Enhanced On my systems, Which are running build 2004 of windows 10 home and pro, it is not necessary for me to disable any of these. However, if you are having problems on your systems, why not try disabling them? Good luck, Rod Sent from my iPhone On Sep 14, 2020, at 1:22 AM, peter Chin wrote: Hello Rod, I wanted to save the message you sent me about the qpps which caused trouble to WinEyes but somehow I lost it. I hope it's no too much trouble to resend that message. Very sorry for the inconvenience I'm causing.. -Original Message- From: Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 10:55 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: RE: a possibly corrupt Window-eyes script Hi Don, I am not certain why Outlook.EXE is involved and producing a script error. The actual app which supports Windows Live Mail is WindowsLiveMail.wepm. This file can be found in the folder: C:\Program Files (x86)\Gw Micro\Window-Eyes If you navigate to this folder, highlight the file and press Enter, you will re-install the app. Try this and see if this works. Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Donald Roberts via Talk Sent: September 11, 2020 5:00 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: Donald Roberts Subject: a possibly corrupt Window-eyes script My Dell desktop is running Windows 10, a recent incarnation of 1909. I recently reinstalled Windows Live Mail, the ribbon version, which seems to be working well. However, I believe the Outlook Express script for window-eyes is corrupt. Whenever I attempt to modify an email rule, I get kicked back into the open message rather than the folders tab opening as it should so I should be able to down arrow to the message rules tab and modify the rule. Sorry if I didn’t verbalize the problem well. Stated another way, when I have an open email message and want to create or modify an email rule, I cann’t open the folders option or any of the other options such as accounts, view, file, etc. So what I want to do is to reinstall the appropriate default script whose name I don’t recall. I recall that there is a way to do this from within Window-eyes, but I don’t recall how to do it. Please refresh my memory. By the way, the version number is of course 9.5.4. Thanks. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/peter.chinpk%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: a possibly corrupt Window-eyes script
Hello Rod, I wanted to save the message you sent me about the qpps which caused trouble to WinEyes but somehow I lost it. I hope it's no too much trouble to resend that message. Very sorry for the inconvenience I'm causing.. -Original Message- From: Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 10:55 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: RE: a possibly corrupt Window-eyes script Hi Don, I am not certain why Outlook.EXE is involved and producing a script error. The actual app which supports Windows Live Mail is WindowsLiveMail.wepm. This file can be found in the folder: C:\Program Files (x86)\Gw Micro\Window-Eyes If you navigate to this folder, highlight the file and press Enter, you will re-install the app. Try this and see if this works. Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Donald Roberts via Talk Sent: September 11, 2020 5:00 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: Donald Roberts Subject: a possibly corrupt Window-eyes script My Dell desktop is running Windows 10, a recent incarnation of 1909. I recently reinstalled Windows Live Mail, the ribbon version, which seems to be working well. However, I believe the Outlook Express script for window-eyes is corrupt. Whenever I attempt to modify an email rule, I get kicked back into the open message rather than the folders tab opening as it should so I should be able to down arrow to the message rules tab and modify the rule. Sorry if I didn’t verbalize the problem well. Stated another way, when I have an open email message and want to create or modify an email rule, I cann’t open the folders option or any of the other options such as accounts, view, file, etc. So what I want to do is to reinstall the appropriate default script whose name I don’t recall. I recall that there is a way to do this from within Window-eyes, but I don’t recall how to do it. Please refresh my memory. By the way, the version number is of course 9.5.4. Thanks. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/peter.chinpk%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Window-Eyes app archive
> Hi Peter, > > Here is a link to the complete archive of Window-Eyes apps: > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/rlijz1tedz9wmuc/WEApps.zip?dl=1 > > Take care, > > Rod > > Sent from Outlook for Windows > > -Original Message- > From: peter Chin > Sent: September 12, 2020 5:23 AM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Rod Hutton > Subject: Re: a possibly corrupt Window-eyes script > > Hello Rod, > > I was trying to look for the Windows Live Mail app as you suggested but > couldn't find it. > I seem to remember that some time back someone on this list gave us a link to > download a full list of WE apps all zipped up but for the life of me, I can't > find it any where. > Could you please put it in your Dropbox and send us the link to download the > app? > > Thanks in advance. > -Original Message- > From: Rod Hutton via Talk > Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 10:55 AM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Rod Hutton > Subject: RE: a possibly corrupt Window-eyes script > > Hi Don, > > I am not certain why Outlook.EXE is involved and producing a script error. > The actual app which supports Windows Live Mail is WindowsLiveMail.wepm. > This file can be found in the folder: > > C:\Program Files (x86)\Gw Micro\Window-Eyes > > If you navigate to this folder, highlight the file and press Enter, you will > re-install the app. > Try this and see if this works. > > Good luck, > > Rod > > Sent from Outlook for Windows > > -Original Message- > From: Talk On > Behalf Of Donald Roberts via Talk > Sent: September 11, 2020 5:00 PM > To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com > Cc: Donald Roberts > Subject: a possibly corrupt Window-eyes script > > My Dell desktop is running Windows 10, a recent incarnation of 1909. I > recently reinstalled Windows Live Mail, the ribbon version, which seems to > be working well. However, I believe the Outlook Express script for > window-eyes is corrupt. Whenever I attempt to modify an email rule, I get > kicked back into the open message rather than the folders tab opening as it > should so I should be able to down arrow to the message rules tab and modify > the rule. > > Sorry if I didn’t verbalize the problem well. Stated another way, when I > have an open email message and want to create or modify an email rule, I > cann’t open the folders option or any of the other options such as > accounts, view, file, etc. So what I want to do is to reinstall the > appropriate default script whose name I don’t recall. I recall that there > is a way to do this from within Window-eyes, but I don’t recall how to do > it. Please refresh my memory. By the way, the version number is of course > 9.5.4. > > Thanks. > Don Roberts > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/peter.chinpk%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
FW: a possibly corrupt Window-eyes script
Hi Peter, I'm resending this, and this time to the list, since I sent the last one just to you, and perhaps others would like it as well. Smile Cheers, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: peter Chin Sent: September 12, 2020 5:23 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: Re: a possibly corrupt Window-eyes script Hello Rod, I was trying to look for the Windows Live Mail app as you suggested but couldn't find it. I seem to remember that some time back someone on this list gave us a link to download a full list of WE apps all zipped up but for the life of me, I can't find it any where. Could you please put it in your Dropbox and send us the link to download the app? Thanks in advance. -Original Message- From: Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 10:55 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: RE: a possibly corrupt Window-eyes script Hi Don, I am not certain why Outlook.EXE is involved and producing a script error. The actual app which supports Windows Live Mail is WindowsLiveMail.wepm. This file can be found in the folder: C:\Program Files (x86)\Gw Micro\Window-Eyes If you navigate to this folder, highlight the file and press Enter, you will re-install the app. Try this and see if this works. Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Donald Roberts via Talk Sent: September 11, 2020 5:00 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: Donald Roberts Subject: a possibly corrupt Window-eyes script My Dell desktop is running Windows 10, a recent incarnation of 1909. I recently reinstalled Windows Live Mail, the ribbon version, which seems to be working well. However, I believe the Outlook Express script for window-eyes is corrupt. Whenever I attempt to modify an email rule, I get kicked back into the open message rather than the folders tab opening as it should so I should be able to down arrow to the message rules tab and modify the rule. Sorry if I didn’t verbalize the problem well. Stated another way, when I have an open email message and want to create or modify an email rule, I cann’t open the folders option or any of the other options such as accounts, view, file, etc. So what I want to do is to reinstall the appropriate default script whose name I don’t recall. I recall that there is a way to do this from within Window-eyes, but I don’t recall how to do it. Please refresh my memory. By the way, the version number is of course 9.5.4. Thanks. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/peter.chinpk%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: a possibly corrupt Window-eyes script
Hello Rod, I was trying to look for the Windows Live Mail app as you suggested but couldn't find it. I seem to remember that some time back someone on this list gave us a link to download a full list of WE apps all zipped up but for the life of me, I can't find it any where. Could you please put it in your Dropbox and send us the link to download the app? Thanks in advance. -Original Message- From: Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 10:55 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: RE: a possibly corrupt Window-eyes script Hi Don, I am not certain why Outlook.EXE is involved and producing a script error. The actual app which supports Windows Live Mail is WindowsLiveMail.wepm. This file can be found in the folder: C:\Program Files (x86)\Gw Micro\Window-Eyes If you navigate to this folder, highlight the file and press Enter, you will re-install the app. Try this and see if this works. Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Donald Roberts via Talk Sent: September 11, 2020 5:00 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: Donald Roberts Subject: a possibly corrupt Window-eyes script My Dell desktop is running Windows 10, a recent incarnation of 1909. I recently reinstalled Windows Live Mail, the ribbon version, which seems to be working well. However, I believe the Outlook Express script for window-eyes is corrupt. Whenever I attempt to modify an email rule, I get kicked back into the open message rather than the folders tab opening as it should so I should be able to down arrow to the message rules tab and modify the rule. Sorry if I didn’t verbalize the problem well. Stated another way, when I have an open email message and want to create or modify an email rule, I cann’t open the folders option or any of the other options such as accounts, view, file, etc. So what I want to do is to reinstall the appropriate default script whose name I don’t recall. I recall that there is a way to do this from within Window-eyes, but I don’t recall how to do it. Please refresh my memory. By the way, the version number is of course 9.5.4. Thanks. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/peter.chinpk%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: a possibly corrupt Window-eyes script
Hi Don, I am not certain why Outlook.EXE is involved and producing a script error. The actual app which supports Windows Live Mail is WindowsLiveMail.wepm. This file can be found in the folder: C:\Program Files (x86)\Gw Micro\Window-Eyes If you navigate to this folder, highlight the file and press Enter, you will re-install the app. Try this and see if this works. Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Donald Roberts via Talk Sent: September 11, 2020 5:00 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: Donald Roberts Subject: a possibly corrupt Window-eyes script My Dell desktop is running Windows 10, a recent incarnation of 1909. I recently reinstalled Windows Live Mail, the ribbon version, which seems to be working well. However, I believe the Outlook Express script for window-eyes is corrupt. Whenever I attempt to modify an email rule, I get kicked back into the open message rather than the folders tab opening as it should so I should be able to down arrow to the message rules tab and modify the rule. Sorry if I didn’t verbalize the problem well. Stated another way, when I have an open email message and want to create or modify an email rule, I cann’t open the folders option or any of the other options such as accounts, view, file, etc. So what I want to do is to reinstall the appropriate default script whose name I don’t recall. I recall that there is a way to do this from within Window-eyes, but I don’t recall how to do it. Please refresh my memory. By the way, the version number is of course 9.5.4. Thanks. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
a possibly corrupt Window-eyes script
My Dell desktop is running Windows 10, a recent incarnation of 1909. I recently reinstalled Windows Live Mail, the ribbon version, which seems to be working well. However, I believe the Outlook Express script for window-eyes is corrupt. Whenever I attempt to modify an email rule, I get kicked back into the open message rather than the folders tab opening as it should so I should be able to down arrow to the message rules tab and modify the rule. Sorry if I didn’t verbalize the problem well. Stated another way, when I have an open email message and want to create or modify an email rule, I cann’t open the folders option or any of the other options such as accounts, view, file, etc. So what I want to do is to reinstall the appropriate default script whose name I don’t recall. I recall that there is a way to do this from within Window-eyes, but I don’t recall how to do it. Please refresh my memory. By the way, the version number is of course 9.5.4. Thanks. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Toggling Speech In Window-Eyes
Curtis is right. You have to assign a hot key from within the WE control panel, as these hot keys--one for global toggle and the other for current program--are undefined by default. If you're interested. 1. Open the WE control panel with control backslash. 2. Press Alt-E to put focus on the settings tree view. 3. Press h to jump to hot keys, then right arrow and down arrow to miscellaneous. 4. Tab to the miscellaneous hot keys list view. 5. Press the letter t until you land on toggle all voices. You now have to decide whether you want to be able to toggle all voices globally or just for a specific program. 6. Press Alt-C to capture a hot key combination. The capture hot key dialog opens, and you can input the key combination. I used Alt-Windows-V for convenience. The capture hot key dialog closes. 7. Tab to the save settings button and press space bar, then close the WE control panel. It's really too bad AI squared was gobbled up by the shark. Take care, Lou N. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer via Talk Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 5:24 PM To: Georges Zeinoun via Talk Cc: Curtis Delzer Subject: Re: Toggling Speech In Window-Eyes I believe you can assign a hot key to do it. Curtis Delzer HS K 6 V F O Rialto, CA cur...@calweb.com On 3/28/2020 4:46 AM, Georges Zeinoun via Talk wrote: > Is there a way to accomplish this task with a hotkey without entering > Window-Eyes control panel? > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/fenderwal%40sb cglobal.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Toggling Speech In Window-Eyes
I believe you can assign a hot key to do it. Curtis Delzer HS K 6 V F O Rialto, CA cur...@calweb.com On 3/28/2020 4:46 AM, Georges Zeinoun via Talk wrote: Is there a way to accomplish this task with a hotkey without entering Window-Eyes control panel? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: activating combo boxes in Window-eyes and Jaws
you got that right, a more than pita, for sure. Curtis Delzer HS K 6 V F O Rialto, CA cur...@calweb.com On 3/28/2020 1:35 AM, Mike via Talk wrote: ot sure but I beleve in Thunderbird, I had to use enter, alt down arrow and then cursor right and then down. Mike.N On 28/03/2020 04:48, net bat2 via Talk wrote: try enter to turn brows mode off then use alt down arrow to open the combo box. this is the extended down arrow. i don't know about the arrows on the number pad. i seldom use it. i don't know if this applies to both the desktop and laptop layout. -Original Message- From: Donald Roberts via Talk Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 8:39 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: Donald Roberts Subject: activating combo boxes in Window-eyes and Jaws Because my primary computer crashed, I am setting things up on my backup Windows 10 desktop. I still use Window-eyes 9.5.4.0 whenever it works; and when it doesn't, I try with Jaws 18. At any rate, I do hope that someone on this list remembers how to activate combo boxes both in Window-eyes and in Jaws. Specifically, I am setting up message filters in Thunderbird. Things go well until I get to the point where I must choose a subfolder into which messages should be filtered. Both W E and Jaws report this as a combo box. Frankly, I haven't done this for so long that I need to ask for your assistance. Thanks in advance for feedback. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/kazejaed%40runbox.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/curtis%40calweb.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Toggling Speech In Window-Eyes
Georges, open your WinEyes control panel, and place yourself in the tree of choices. Scroll down to Hotkeys, and expand it. Then arrow down to Miscellaneous. Now tab once, and you land in a list of some 50 different things, for which you can set a dedicated hotkey. What you are looking for, is the one that says something like Silence. It is far down the list, something like 42 or near that - so keep scrolling. When found, tab over to the button that says Define Hotkey and hit Enter. Then press the hotkey of your choice. You will receive confirmation. Remember to hit Ctrl-S, to save your settings. As an extra note, please be aware that you can set the hotkey for a global scope. In that case, it will work no matter where you are on your computer. Alternatively, you can set it to only work for a given piece of software. In case you want it to only apply for a specific application, make sure to focus that application prior to bringing up your control panel. Further, make sure to associate a set file with that application - something you do from the Association branch of the treeview. When in the hotkey section, make sure to press space on the choice for whether it should be linked with the application only, or set as a global hotkey. Your speech should inform you of the setting. This feature is not set to any hotkey by default. And frankly, I never used it myself. Reason I even know about it, is that I recently had to redefine a hotkey, and came across the listing. As for Jaws, I am not sure how to do this acrobatic excersie, so others will have to educate the two of us. Pretty sure, there might be a way to do it in that screen reader as well. Hope this took you one step further. On 3/28/2020 12:46 PM, Georges Zeinoun via Talk wrote: Is there a way to accomplish this task with a hotkey without entering Window-Eyes control panel? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Toggling Speech In Window-Eyes
Is there a way to accomplish this task with a hotkey without entering Window-Eyes control panel? -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv?gen6A, 541 63 Sk?vdeSWEDEN TEL: +46500482929 E-Mail: g.zayn...@telia.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: activating combo boxes in Window-eyes and Jaws
ot sure but I beleve in Thunderbird, I had to use enter, alt down arrow and then cursor right and then down. Mike.N On 28/03/2020 04:48, net bat2 via Talk wrote: try enter to turn brows mode off then use alt down arrow to open the combo box. this is the extended down arrow. i don't know about the arrows on the number pad. i seldom use it. i don't know if this applies to both the desktop and laptop layout. -Original Message- From: Donald Roberts via Talk Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 8:39 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: Donald Roberts Subject: activating combo boxes in Window-eyes and Jaws Because my primary computer crashed, I am setting things up on my backup Windows 10 desktop. I still use Window-eyes 9.5.4.0 whenever it works; and when it doesn't, I try with Jaws 18. At any rate, I do hope that someone on this list remembers how to activate combo boxes both in Window-eyes and in Jaws. Specifically, I am setting up message filters in Thunderbird. Things go well until I get to the point where I must choose a subfolder into which messages should be filtered. Both W E and Jaws report this as a combo box. Frankly, I haven't done this for so long that I need to ask for your assistance. Thanks in advance for feedback. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/kazejaed%40runbox.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: activating combo boxes in Window-eyes and Jaws
try enter to turn brows mode off then use alt down arrow to open the combo box. this is the extended down arrow. i don't know about the arrows on the number pad. i seldom use it. i don't know if this applies to both the desktop and laptop layout. -Original Message- From: Donald Roberts via Talk Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 8:39 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: Donald Roberts Subject: activating combo boxes in Window-eyes and Jaws Because my primary computer crashed, I am setting things up on my backup Windows 10 desktop. I still use Window-eyes 9.5.4.0 whenever it works; and when it doesn't, I try with Jaws 18. At any rate, I do hope that someone on this list remembers how to activate combo boxes both in Window-eyes and in Jaws. Specifically, I am setting up message filters in Thunderbird. Things go well until I get to the point where I must choose a subfolder into which messages should be filtered. Both W E and Jaws report this as a combo box. Frankly, I haven't done this for so long that I need to ask for your assistance. Thanks in advance for feedback. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
activating combo boxes in Window-eyes and Jaws
Because my primary computer crashed, I am setting things up on my backup Windows 10 desktop. I still use Window-eyes 9.5.4.0 whenever it works; and when it doesn't, I try with Jaws 18. At any rate, I do hope that someone on this list remembers how to activate combo boxes both in Window-eyes and in Jaws. Specifically, I am setting up message filters in Thunderbird. Things go well until I get to the point where I must choose a subfolder into which messages should be filtered. Both W E and Jaws report this as a combo box. Frankly, I haven't done this for so long that I need to ask for your assistance. Thanks in advance for feedback. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Solving Mouse Trap; (was: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes)
Hello David, Thanks so much for your suggestions. I will try to answer your questions as best I can First of all, about my system. No, I have never reinstalled Windows since it was set up more than a year ago. The only programs I have uninstalled of any significance were my Collins dictionary and my Word Web dictionary. I am the only person using this computer and to my knowledge I have never clicked on any offers of new programs. I use the network icon on the desktop as an example but, surprisingly, I haven't heard the word "Network" being repeated. I just chose the word out of the blue as an example. The repeated words could be part of the message or word file I am typing, or it could be words at the top or bottom of the screen if my mouse is in that position. I always disconnect the LAN cable from my computer whenever I go off line. My Desktop computer doesn't have a wireless connection. However, you might have a point about something trying to update. Java has been trying to get me to update but I recently abandoned the update halfway because I didn't quite understand what it was requiring me to do. I do diskclean at least once a day but I haven't used my C Cleaner for some time so I think I had better try that. I always avoid scheduling anything like antivirus or defragging programs, preferring to do these tasks manually when I have the time. In Windows 8, they don't use the word "Defrag" but "Optimize". I optimize my drives once inn a while even though I am told by Windows that my drives do not need optimizing. My antivirus program is the Windows Defender provided by Microsoft. I don't consider it a very effective antivirus program so I am ver wary about visiting strange websites. My computer technician did put on AVG for me but I told him to uninstall it as AVG has become rather inaccessible. I don't think he did a very good job of it as I still find traces of the program on my computer and that could be another source of my troubles. On the other hand, why should it only cause trouble recently? Just for your info, since I reported this strange behaviour, my mouse has been behaving properly, and the unwanted repetitions have stopped. Thanks again and I am definitely going to clean up my computer with C Cleaner tomorrow as I have to go out this evening. -Original Message- From: David Sent: Saturday, February 29, 2020 12:43 PM To: peter Chin ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Solving Mouse Trap; (was: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes) Well, Peter, This really sounds like a nut. If something like you describe is repeated over and over, like: Desktop, Network, Desktop, Network; I am almost ready to think this is due to some background service attempting to start, and likely not being able to perform what it wants. That could be, some sort of update, an unstabil network connection, Things like a disk Clean-up or Defragmentation, Scheduled scanning jobs from your Anti-Virus; or whatever else. Seemingly, the software is trying to do its job, fails, and pops back to the Desktop - determines that it wants to try again, also this time failing, and returning to the desktop. The screen reader is doing its job, in picking up that something is going on, and reading out to you what it can manage, before next operation is plunging in. Since this retrying is rapidly going on, the screen reader might not have time to read out all the dialogs, and you only hear the window titles spoken. GW were asked several years ago, if a user-activated delaying filter could be implemented, that would leave the screen reader time enough to recognize and speak out dialogs like this, or even determine to skip them altogether. Their reply in short, was that they did not see it as anything useful. Another screen reader which I used before WinEyes, did have such capability, which I found useful many a time. And NVDA seems to be slow enough, or perhaps more like agressive enough, to pick up all the info and take its time to read it aloud. Now for a moment, let's imagine my assumption is right. When the software has kept attempting a preset number of times, it pops an error message on you. That message is not visible to WinEyes, like we have talked about earlier. This invisible window is trapping your mouse; and you, are pulling your hair. Yes, a wild guess, but not totally out of the blue either. Again, I suggest trying an alternative screen reader for a little. This might just prove helpful, as another screen reader might pick up what is going on, and read out some info that will point you to the real nest of your trouble. Try install NVDA. Restart your computer, and when it is all ready, turn off WinEyes. For instance by hitting Ctrl-Insert-F4, and then Enter on the OK button. Then Start NVDA, by default Alt-Ctrl-N. Work on your computer as normal, writing some stuff, checking your email, browsing some familiar website, or whatever you typically are
Solving Mouse Trap; (was: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes)
all socket. Even the ones on any router or other hooked up units you might have. Are you on a wireless network, make sure that the cables from the modem to the wall, and to the router if applicable, are all tightly fit. Your wireless never gets better than what the cables dictate. If you know how to, maybe try resetting your wireless connection, or even changing the password. Even cross the yard, between different apartmens, and sometimes surprisingly long distance, others might be able to use your wireless connection. Have you any other people in your dwelling who are using their wireless units while you are on the computer? Or, have you recently refurnished your home, and now something like your radio or TV is troubling the wireless signals. It all could disturb the flow, and cause your computer to rapidly go on- and offline. Had some of that experience myself, many years ago. Did not understand what was going on, until I called the Internet Provider, and the tech guy told me that my internet had frequently gone on and off for the last few hours. Of course, if you want to play the full game of tracing - you could disconnect from the network. Disconnect the cable from your computer, or turn off the wireless switch if it has one. If nothing else, turn off your modem - unless that would cause inconvinience to you in any other way. Then start your computer all from start. That is, do not wake it up from hibernation or sleeping mode. Give it what we name a "cold boot". Now perform some normal offline activity for a period of time, long enough that you are sure the issue normally would have shown up. See if the issue does poke out its nose. You could of course lengthen the to-do list by also going to Network setup on your computer, and turn off the network there, just to inform the computer that it most definitely could save itself the trouble in attempting to connect to any network. Peter, I am aware that the thing you are facing might not be network related at all. I just spent a moment on advicing what to do, so as to shelter out one possibility. Is it always saying "network", when the unwanted speech goes on, or does it randomly give other messages. one thing could be to make some notes whenever the unwanted speech comes on, over a day or so, and let us know what it has been saying. Know that is a lot of extra trouble, and not sure if it will take us much further, but do give it some consideration. If you recently had someone fooling with your system, like some servicing personel, grandchildren or friends that wanted to help you out - be aware that they forcefully, or totally unknowingly, might have turned on some stuff that could be causing the issue. Maybe because they found it useful, and did not realize what trouble it would be for you. All wild guesses. And probably you feel more confused than ever. Troubleshooting could be quite a go, and specially so when we do not see all the glittery, flashing and colorful nignags that sighted people so greatly enjoy now aday on their screens. Unfortunately often such stuff is more of a trouble to the screen readers. On 2/29/2020 3:55 AM, peter Chin wrote: > Hello David, > > My mouse problems can show up at start-up or at any time afterwards. Trouble is, I don't know exactly when it happens after start-up unless I happen to want to use the mouse and I discover that the mouse is not working. When the mouse is not working, the cursor usually appears to be working fine. Whether the mouse is working or not, unwanted parts of the screen can suddenly start reading, often repeating many times, such as "Network, desktop, network, Desktop, network, desktop" and so on. > > At the moment as I am writing this reply, the mouse seems to be working alright. > > I realise that this kind of unpredictable behaviour is difficult to solve and I really appreciate your efforts to help. > > Thanks a lot. > -Original Message- From: David > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 7:40 PM > To: peter Chin ; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes > > Peter, > Let's see if I get you right. Please correct me where I am off-tracked. > > You start your computer, and the screen reader. For the most part, it > starts out as expected, with all mouse movements functioning. As you > keep working, all the sudden, and apparently without any further notice, > your mouse goes for a garden-party, and all the fun it leaves you is the > word "blank" when you try to control it. Did we get it right this far? > > This behavior takes place whether you are in one or the other > application.. You mentioned WLM and Windows Explorer. But are they the > only places the thing happens, or does it happen in pretty much any > other software as well? And, do you have an
Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes
Hello David, Sorry for not answering your questions fully in my last reply, but I was in such a hurry to send it off that I only answered one of your questions, so I have decided to rwrite my reply again. My mouse problems can show up at start-up or at any time afterwards. Trouble is, I don't know exactly when it happens after start-up unless I happen to want to use the mouse and I discover that the mouse is not working. If the mouse is not working on the Desktop, it usually does not work in most other programs where there is a list of items such as files, folders or lists in menus. When the mouse is not working, the cursor usually appears to be working fine. Whether the mouse is working or not, unwanted parts of the screen can suddenly start getting read out, often repeating many times, such as "Network, desktop, network, Desktop, network, desktop" and so on. Once the mouse misbehaves, it continues to do so no matter what I do. Reloading WE or restarting the computer makes no difference. I just have to hope that when I turn my computer later on in the day or the next day, the mouse will work. I do have NVDA in portable form on my computer though I have not installed the latest version. At the moment as I am writing this reply, the mouse seems to be working fine although I am getting temperory loss of speech in WLM. I realise that this kind of unpredictable behaviour is difficult to solve without direct acces to the computer, and I really appreciate your efforts to help. Thanks so much. -Original Message- From: David Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 7:40 PM To: peter Chin ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes Peter, Let's see if I get you right. Please correct me where I am off-tracked. You start your computer, and the screen reader. For the most part, it starts out as expected, with all mouse movements functioning. As you keep working, all the sudden, and apparently without any further notice, your mouse goes for a garden-party, and all the fun it leaves you is the word "blank" when you try to control it. Did we get it right this far? This behavior takes place whether you are in one or the other application.. You mentioned WLM and Windows Explorer. But are they the only places the thing happens, or does it happen in pretty much any other software as well? And, do you have an idea, whether this takes place after a given amount of runtime. Does it typically happen after say five minutes working time, or is it totally out of any time frame. Lastly, does it disappear after a while? At this point, I will have to do a couple of wild guesses. See if that takes us anywhere. What might be an extra question is, do you have any other screen reader installed. That is, do you for instance have NVDA on your computer. Sometimes this can prove a beneficial thing. NVDA has in a number of cases, proven to be a bit more agressive in grabbing info from the screen. And due to NVDA still being developed, it keeps up with modern screens in a way that WinEyes not always live up to. Put it the way, that NVDA does a quick go and get what it gets - whilst WinEyes does go about it a bit more thoroughly, but only get so much out of the job. Both being beneficial in their own ways. And here might be one of the cases when the more tools will give us the better job done. What I do get from the description you gave, the way I read it, seems to me you have some kind of a popup window showing up on your screen. A popup that WinEyes might not notice, but still gets crazy about. At least your mouse might enjoy it. Such popups could be notifications coming from other software, who needs a permission to update. Windows 7 and up, introduced us to a new measure of security, in the User Acount Control - which will ask your permission before performing any deep-going action on your computer, like an update or bigger altering of your software. Now, what if your anti-virus, your email program or any other piece of software needs to install an update. This update is of some major concern to the operativ system, and it will popup a message asking if you are comfortable with this software's meddling with your system. You likely have seen this kind of message, when attempting to install new software. OK, sometimes software have built-in popups on their own. I am not a WLM user, so cannot speak for that one, but it could be it has some extra fun in popping out a message window every now and then. Thing about such popups, is that they are not always easy to see for WinEyes. And they go hide themselves behind any other stuff. Still the mouse might stick with them. NVDA, though, has proven to be useful on my system, in cases like that. It might pick up popups even when they appear, and quite often alt-tabbing through the list of open software, NVDA will report if it finds any open popups. If things like you describe happens to me, I quic
Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes
Hello David, My mouse problems can show up at start-up or at any time afterwards. Trouble is, I don't know exactly when it happens after start-up unless I happen to want to use the mouse and I discover that the mouse is not working. When the mouse is not working, the cursor usually appears to be working fine. Whether the mouse is working or not, unwanted parts of the screen can suddenly start reading, often repeating many times, such as "Network, desktop, network, Desktop, network, desktop" and so on. At the moment as I am writing this reply, the mouse seems to be working alright. I realise that this kind of unpredictable behaviour is difficult to solve and I really appreciate your efforts to help. Thanks a lot. -Original Message- From: David Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 7:40 PM To: peter Chin ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes Peter, Let's see if I get you right. Please correct me where I am off-tracked. You start your computer, and the screen reader. For the most part, it starts out as expected, with all mouse movements functioning. As you keep working, all the sudden, and apparently without any further notice, your mouse goes for a garden-party, and all the fun it leaves you is the word "blank" when you try to control it. Did we get it right this far? This behavior takes place whether you are in one or the other application.. You mentioned WLM and Windows Explorer. But are they the only places the thing happens, or does it happen in pretty much any other software as well? And, do you have an idea, whether this takes place after a given amount of runtime. Does it typically happen after say five minutes working time, or is it totally out of any time frame. Lastly, does it disappear after a while? At this point, I will have to do a couple of wild guesses. See if that takes us anywhere. What might be an extra question is, do you have any other screen reader installed. That is, do you for instance have NVDA on your computer. Sometimes this can prove a beneficial thing. NVDA has in a number of cases, proven to be a bit more agressive in grabbing info from the screen. And due to NVDA still being developed, it keeps up with modern screens in a way that WinEyes not always live up to. Put it the way, that NVDA does a quick go and get what it gets - whilst WinEyes does go about it a bit more thoroughly, but only get so much out of the job. Both being beneficial in their own ways. And here might be one of the cases when the more tools will give us the better job done. What I do get from the description you gave, the way I read it, seems to me you have some kind of a popup window showing up on your screen. A popup that WinEyes might not notice, but still gets crazy about. At least your mouse might enjoy it. Such popups could be notifications coming from other software, who needs a permission to update. Windows 7 and up, introduced us to a new measure of security, in the User Acount Control - which will ask your permission before performing any deep-going action on your computer, like an update or bigger altering of your software. Now, what if your anti-virus, your email program or any other piece of software needs to install an update. This update is of some major concern to the operativ system, and it will popup a message asking if you are comfortable with this software's meddling with your system. You likely have seen this kind of message, when attempting to install new software. OK, sometimes software have built-in popups on their own. I am not a WLM user, so cannot speak for that one, but it could be it has some extra fun in popping out a message window every now and then. Thing about such popups, is that they are not always easy to see for WinEyes. And they go hide themselves behind any other stuff. Still the mouse might stick with them. NVDA, though, has proven to be useful on my system, in cases like that. It might pick up popups even when they appear, and quite often alt-tabbing through the list of open software, NVDA will report if it finds any open popups. If things like you describe happens to me, I quickly press the hotkey to start NVDA, and once it comes up, I might Alt-Tab my way around. Sometimes just starting NVDA, and it automatically discovers and reads out the popup to me. Funny thing is, when NVDA is active, I can get WinEyes to focus on the popup and maybe even interact with it, something that is out of question with WinEyes running on its own. Drawback of it all, of course is, that you will have to deal with both screen readers chattering simultaneously for the moment you have NVDA loaded. But you just need it for the time of discovering what is going on. Once you have done what you need to do, you just close down NVDA, and back to WinEyes. The other thing that could be worth a try, is for a while to turn off all apps in WinEyes. I am not aware which app would cause your trouble, but it
Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes
More and more programs don't provide data that Window-Eyes's off-screen model can use to determine the position of the mouse. W- E reads their output using techniques that use accessibility provided by the program in question, and sometimes this results in the data being spoken, and navigable in a special "virtual cursor" or "browse" mode, but the mouse pointer will just say "blank." This has become much more frequent for Windows 10 programs. JAWS is continuing to grapple with the problem using what they call the "touch cursor," and what NVDA calls "object navigation." I think that recent versions of Windows Narrator call this mode "scan mode." Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD -Original Message- From: peter Chin via Talk Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 11:09 PM To: David ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: peter Chin Subject: Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes Hello David, Thank you so much for your very extensive reply. Yes, I must admit I didn't give enough details abou my problems. I was in a bit of a hurry as I had several other things to be done. First, about the mouse keys. Sometimes when I am on the desktop or in my user folder, moving the mouse with the mouse keys does not read anything. If I try to read current icon or line, or if I move the mouse up or down or left to right or the other way, WE just says "blank". lefgt or right clicking on what I think should be the icon or folder I moved the mouse to does have some effect. This can also happen when I am in WLM. Sometimes, however, the mouse keys move as expected. Trouble is, I don't know when and why this happens. Restarting WE or restarting the computer does not solve the problem when the mouse keys do not work. I only noticed this strange behaviour a few days ago. I was not messking around with any settings at the time but had just started my computer. Whether the moue keys areworking or not, WE may just start parts of the screen I am not interested in. As for backing up, I don't know how to back up my C drive but I have a copy of my WE Defult folder and I have all my data files backed up. I am not very good at writing batch files, especially for Windows, so would be very glad to have your batch file which you mentioned. Thanks in advance. -Original Message- From: David Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 8:15 PM To: peter Chin ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes Your mouse keys do not work as expected? Sorry to hear that. Yet, I am afraid i do not know what exactly you mean. Is it something going on in all applications, or is it only (at least mainly) happening in some particular piece of software.? Are you aware when it all started, and if so, do you have a clue what you did just prior to this behavior taking place? Reason I am assking, is that it might point us in the direction of picking up a solution for you. In case you have made any updates, played around with some settings, or installed some extra software or apps - it might be a place to start helping you out. Could you explain, please, what it is you expect, and what does not work? It has been a known fact, that the mouse sometimes gets stuck in a position on the screen. Usually this would mean one of the corners. And why this happens might have as many answers as there are questions. Still, whenever something show up in that posistion - like some status message, for instance - WinEyes will read it out to you. That is because the screen reader is doing its job, however strange that might sound. See, the screen reader is such constructed, that it will keep an eye on your screen, and let you know whenever some info shows up, in places that you tell is of special interest. Placing your mouse, is one way of telling the screen reader to watch out for updated info. Now, if your mouse runs over and dig itself a new hole, wherever on your screen, the screen reader will track the mouse, and determine that likely you enjoy to have it chattering everything that the mouse "sniffs" in its stuck position. No, I am not trying to be jokie. This is the real fact. The big issue, and main solution, will be to have the mouse dragged loose from its stubborn place, and tell it to behave like good tiny mice are supposed to. Exactly why your mouse misbehaves, will be the thing we need to guess and play around. Are you on a desktop, or a laptop computer? If on a laptop, could it be that you accidentially are activating the touchpad when operating the computer. Some computers can turn off the touchpad, and if that is the case with yours, you might have ended up turning it back on - meaning that every time you place your hands on the laptop, you are in the risk of swiping the sensors of the pad, and the mouse will run like as if you had let the cat into the room. Solutions then, could be to make sure to deactivate the touchpad, a
