[OSM-talk] New statistics on volume of "note" creation and closing

2015-02-26 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
In light of the discussion the volume and quality of note and fixme items, Pascal Neis has whipped up some nice long term data for notes. Hopefully corresponding data on fixme will be possible in the future. http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-notes-overview ​ --

Re: [OSM-talk] [Imports] Mechanically Cleaning Up FIXME Tags

2015-02-26 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Greg Troxel wrote: > > I think part of the objection to mechanical removal is that just because > there are a lot of particular values doesn't mean they are all junk, and > some could well have been added by hand. > > Perhaps a more limited cleanup that removes fi

Re: [OSM-talk] Mechanically Cleaning Up FIXME Tags

2015-02-26 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Here's an example semi-bulk FIXME cleanup just done. This was manual, not script based: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/29107328 Clearly this was a simple mistake (a JOSM user doing "select all" and getting nodes in addition to the ways they wanted to target). The original changeset was:

Re: [OSM-talk] Mechanically Cleaning Up FIXME Tags

2015-02-25 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Jonathan Bennett wrote: > > Actually I think you've misunderstood: > > You've said these are Junk Tags, and I think everyone has agreed with > you on that. However people have also pointed out that they are probably > attached to Junk Data. How about if I summari

Re: [OSM-talk] Mechanically Cleaning Up FIXME Tags

2015-02-25 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
fixme=yes is an interesting one socially. It's a bit like tiger:reviewed=no If there's an obvious problem, I might feel confident to fix the issue and clear the tag out. But for most nodes I might be unsure what's wrong, or not be confident I know 100% about the object. Thus the fixme=yes sits th

Re: [OSM-talk] Mechanically Cleaning Up FIXME Tags

2015-02-25 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:10 AM, SomeoneElse wrote: > On 25/02/2015 05:00, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > >> Any fixme in wide use I'm not interested in deleting. >> > > I'd strongly oppose the mechanical deletion of "low volume" fixme values. > Mappers l

Re: [OSM-talk] Mechanically Cleaning Up FIXME Tags

2015-02-24 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
It's also possible to turn some of those like "could_be_dunes_or_beach" into notes, rather than FIXME. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Mechanically Cleaning Up FIXME Tags

2015-02-24 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Any fixme in wide use I'm not interested in deleting. Get rid: fixme=check/adjust␣position␣and/or␣merge␣with␣existing␣stop␣if␣exists fixme=type_of_palm fixme=imported_to_be_checked FIXME=stream␣attribute␣data␣missing Keep: fixme=continue fixme=position fixme=resurvey fixme=dual_carriageway Speak

[OSM-talk] Mechanically Cleaning Up FIXME Tags

2015-02-24 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I'm opening a discussion about a potential mechanical edit to FIXME tags: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/fixme#values http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/FIXME#values It is apparent that a number of imports have left tens of thousands of fixme notes that have a low chance of ever getting

Re: [OSM-talk] new payment type

2015-02-24 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Greg Knisely wrote: > From a routing/driving directions perspective, I was hoping to determine > if the user needs to slow down at all where a toll exists if they use an > ETC device. > That would be a short segment of maxspeed=25mph or whatever. Open road toll

Re: [OSM-talk] Quality of OSM Notes

2015-02-21 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 7:39 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: > Greg Troxel writes: > > That said, there is a lot of junk. But I just close them if I can't > > figure them out and if I'm fairly sure I wouldn't be able to if I showed > > up. > > I agree with Greg. If the not submitter didn't put a lot o

Re: [OSM-talk] Quality of OSM Notes

2015-02-21 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > Do we have a graph of how many notes are open? It wouldn't be surprising >> to see a downward trend in the last few weeks from this change. >> >> http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-notes ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Quality of OSM Notes

2015-02-20 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 8:42 PM, Michał Brzozowski wrote: > On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 10:11 PM, Bryce Nesbitt > wrote: > > Perhaps the most frustrating type of note is one where the writer clearly > > meant to help, but there's just not > > enough information avai

Re: [OSM-talk] Warning: OSM password phishing

2015-02-20 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Sigh. Unfortunately mentioning the URL of a "bad" site can help increase the credibility and reach of the bad site. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Quality of OSM Notes

2015-02-20 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
*A challenge*: clear 50 notes, and come back to this discussion with your ideas ;-). ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Quality of OSM Notes

2015-02-20 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > > In general I think it should be easier, not harder, to create notes and > Ian's onosm is a good example of how to accomplish that. Adding artificial > friction makes no sense to me. Less notes should not be an objective, > smarter ways

Re: [OSM-talk] Quality of OSM Notes

2015-02-20 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:29 AM, Toby Murray wrote: > I believe it was Ian Dees who came up with http://onosm.org/ to address > this. It collects detailed information and then creates an actionable note > with that information. > What would it take to get "onosm" or something like that linked to

Re: [OSM-talk] Quality of OSM Notes

2015-02-19 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 11:20 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > "OSM is easy to edit" - I think that it is better to avoid false > information. OSM is not easy to edit for beginners (iD is a bit better for > start, but it is also quite hard) > A fair number of the notes in my areas were people (usu

[OSM-talk] Quality of OSM Notes

2015-02-19 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
In preparation for a project, I made a concerted effort to clear "notes" in areas I know well. There were a few gems in there, but mostly it was pretty rough going. Many open notes were not actionable: 1) Pure junk (empty, scribbles) 2) Unsolvable wishes 3) Incomplete information (with no way to

Re: [OSM-talk] "guide to vandalism” in OSM?

2015-02-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 12 February 2015 at 13:55, Marc Gemis wrote: > > > The comments were saying that vandalism is rare on OSM > Wikipedia sensibly offers this advice: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Don%27t_stuff_beans_up_your_nose Yet: http://

Re: [OSM-talk] [Imports] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far

2015-02-12 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: > Bryce, > > After reading through this thread, I just don't see this dataset as > being high enough of quality to import. > > Arguing that users will be free to move objects does not jive with the > ~10 years experience we have in OSM, and

Re: [OSM-talk] this has to stop: iD user mistakes all over the place

2015-02-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Tom MacWright wrote: > Ever since 2012, in the second commit ever, "Not breaking other people's > data" has been one of the three clearly stated public design goals of iD. > This goal does not appear to have been carried out. The iD project comes off as tone dea

Re: [OSM-talk] this has to stop: iD user mistakes all over the place

2015-02-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Tom MacWright wrote: > That ticket doesn't have a difference of opinion: it has a core developer > of iD offering to buy a cake for whoever contributes a fix. Nobody has > contributed a fix: one would be accepted if it was contributed. Plus, we'd > give that perso

Re: [OSM-talk] this has to stop: iD user mistakes all over the place

2015-02-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Tom MacWright wrote: > How is an open source project that was open source on day one, was > publicly communicated from day one, heavily explained in time-consuming > technical blog posts, has 77 contributors, and has accepted hundreds of > pull requests "tightly h

Re: [OSM-talk] this has to stop: iD user mistakes all over the place

2015-02-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Tom MacWright wrote: > Unfortunately, experience suggests that there's relatively little that a >> discussion on on the "talk" mailing list is going to be able to do here. Help >> with development or give productive feedback on the issue tracker. > > Productive fe

Re: [OSM-talk] this has to stop: iD user mistakes all over the place

2015-02-11 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I agree 100% that iD is making editing mistakes easier, out of proportion to the degree to which it makes editing by new users easier. The delete user interface is particularly fragile, encouraging the most pernicious form of damage: silent deletes. That goes for both the main map, and associated

Re: [OSM-talk] [Imports] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far

2015-02-06 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Are there any additional comments on the issue of importing (actually synchronizing) 500 bicycle repair stations? With this import OSM would become the most comprehensive database of repair station locations. To summarize: the import database is maintained by a vendor of bicycle repair stations, t

Re: [OSM-talk] [Imports] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far

2015-01-26 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Greg Troxel wrote: > > Also, if a tag isn't rendered in the default mapnik view, then those > elements are unlikely to be cleaned up (absent a special render for a > community of interest, which the cyclemap layer might be). > It's a chicken and egg situation. Wi

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: [Imports] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far

2015-01-26 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Chris Hill wrote: > > Again, that doesn't justify adding data you know are poor quality. Please > don't do that. The data in question is collected via GPS: it's of similar quality to other POI's collected via GPS. Every one I sought out to verify was readily fi

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: [Imports] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far

2015-01-26 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 11:10 AM, JB wrote: > > I have nothing against bicycle repair stations. Really. But, just in > France, how many databases do we have that are as worth as this one ? > Post offices, monuments, schools… Do we want to create some hundreds, > thousands of notes for these? 1)

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far

2015-01-26 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:13 AM, Philip Barnes wrote: > On Mon Jan 26 07:37:57 2015 GMT, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > > > >> The locations I field checked were all findable, but had positioning > errors > >> consistent with smartphone GPS units, > >> up to 30 m

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far

2015-01-25 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 1:34 PM, SomeoneElse wrote: > In this case the node seems to be a duplicate of > http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2802994130 just across the road - I'm > guessing that something went wrong when checking the nodes for import? The conflation has limits, it's true. Node h

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far

2015-01-25 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Note for rendering. There appear to be stations that are under lock and key, not even permissive: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3190431752/history that I would not want to see mapped on a general purpose map. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetm

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far

2015-01-25 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 3:09 AM, Maarten Deen wrote: > But are there a lot of these repair stations around? I know of none. We > usually have our bikes repaired in a bike shop. I made list of manufacturers of this type of station at http://guides.obviously.com/Public-Bicycle-Work-and-Repair-Stand

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far

2015-01-24 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Where do OSM cycling enthusiasts hang out : is there a mailing list or group focused on cycling features? On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 3:51 AM, Simon Poole wrote: > Bryce, where are these common? Not something I've seen here (in a wide > sense of the word). After talking to the main producers of the

Re: [OSM-talk] Galaxy SIII GPS receiver issues, and alternatives

2015-01-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 6:32 AM, Nick Whitelegg wrote: > > Has anyone encountered any problems with the GPS on the Galaxy SIII or > similar models starting to malfunction after a while? > > Mine is around 18 months old and since around Easter its ability to > connect to the satellites seems to ha

Re: [OSM-talk] MEP - pipelines

2015-01-06 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
> > While we're at it, it would be nice to have a database that allows going > from the tagged item (e.g., "fitness centre") to recommended tag. The iD editor has a nice internal feature called aliases, so a person looking to add a restroom will find the toilet preset. ___

Re: [OSM-talk] MEP - pipelines

2015-01-06 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I'm a data consumer also. And I've faced tagging proposals that would break my imports also. In general while I think the tagging / wiki voting system is pretty broken, I also believe in mass re-tagging to make data more regular. While there's a one time disruption due to re-tagging, the promise o

Re: [OSM-talk] MEP - pipelines

2015-01-05 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
> What about the maps I produce for my client? You're not likely to know about > it as it is a private project. If you make a mechanical edit that breaks my > render, should I send the bill for the changes to you rather than ask my > client to pay? (This is not hypothetical I really do have a rende

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far

2014-11-15 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 1:04 PM, colliar wrote: > > Am 15.11.2014 um 02:32 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt:> I'd like to encourage > people to map bicycle repair stations. There are only > > 18 in the database right now. Can we double that this week? > > > > http://wiki

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far

2014-11-15 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 3:51 AM, Simon Poole wrote: > Bryce, where are these common? Not something I've seen here (in a wide > sense of the word). > > Simon > They're showing up all over the United States. Every new Whole Foods Market seems to have one. They're typical on new rail trail and bike

[OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far

2014-11-14 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I'd like to encourage people to map bicycle repair stations. There are only 18 in the database right now. Can we double that this week? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbicycle_repair_station -- Separately I'm torn if it's better to map "operator=" for t

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

2014-11-12 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
To compare an alternative: A live service could look up the relationship in real time as a person clicked. Meaning you could make a map with the wikidata feature, without adding anything to OSM. Is simply using OSM as a cache for the output of a script that can be run later? _

[OSM-talk] Accessing "center" feature from Overpass XML?

2014-10-09 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I know how to use "out meta center;" in Overpass query language to get the center of a way. What's the equivalent in Overpass XML? I tried adding it to the , but I can't find documentation on and the command is rejected:

Re: [OSM-talk] How best to create a "single point of interest" online map with OSM data?

2014-10-02 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
ically how many toilets are missing from OSM :-)! Bryce Nesbitt ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] How best to create a "single point of interest" online map with OSM data?

2014-09-30 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 3:14 AM, Jóhannes Birgir Jensson wrote: > Mappa Mercia have a tutorial on this, using uMap with live data from > Overpass > http://www.mappa-mercia.org/2014/09/creating-an-always-up-to-date-map.html Thanks for this. I did try it: http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/test

Re: [OSM-talk] How best to view geometry history for a way?

2014-09-25 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 6:57 AM, Tobias Preuss < tobias.preuss+...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Did you try the OSM History Viewer? > http://osmhv.openstreetmap.de/index.jsp > Ok, but the change-set is HUGE and I'd like to just focus on way 20953890

[OSM-talk] How best to view geometry history for a way?

2014-09-25 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I'm looking for a current answer to: https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/6208/ *How to view the geometry of an older way?* Specifically I'm trying to view 2 and 3 of: http://iandees.github.io/osm-deep-history/#/way/20953890 I tried using JOSM's reversion plugin to see the old version, but co

[OSM-talk] How best to create a "single point of interest" online map with OSM data?

2014-09-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
What's the best way to create a global "single point of interest" map, with OSM? I'm thinking something like this local pay phone map: https://a.tiles.mapbox.com/v4/brycenesbitt.j82lj086/page.html?access_token=pk.eyJ1IjoiYnJ5Y2VuZXNiaXR0IiwiYSI6ImNFME9IckkifQ.Nd85HRRFP3Jy3gx8nQ3ATA#14/37.8699/-12

Re: [OSM-talk] Nexus 5 - No GPS - Fix

2014-09-15 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Had the same thing with a Nexus S: http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/77603/ Here it took screws. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Visually detect missing roads

2014-09-10 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
All contributors should keep in mind the terms of service for Google maps, OSM, and copyright laws in general. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Copyright_Easter_Eggs ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging of private roads

2014-09-07 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
How do I use and tag private roads? I don't really bother. If a road is open for travel I don't care much if it's private. If a road has a gate, then, um, at least in most cases it's off limits. The gate is a better signal for routing compared to private/public. There are too may private roads t

Re: [OSM-talk] We need a name!

2014-06-19 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Open Time Machine ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Invisible character LRM in some website values

2014-04-29 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Keepright and/or Maproulette are fine tools for crowfixing such things. Keepright is probably already picking them up, at it loads website tags and matches them to the other tags in the same OSM primitive. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Tagging natural or informal swimming holes?

2014-04-25 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 6:07 AM, Philip Barnes wrote: > Forgetting the tagging for a moment, is it not irresponsible to be > mapping and thus being seen as encouraging such activities? > > Every year when there is hot weather there are warnings not to swim in > lakes and rivers, and these are ine

Re: [OSM-talk] Flying club ?

2014-04-24 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
You're really talking here about the club *headquarters*... the place where visitor interactions take place. The club may also have other facilities (berths, hangers) that are mappable, but not where you'd direct a first time visitor. ___ talk mailing li

Re: [OSM-talk] Newbie alert

2014-03-19 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 2:53 AM, SomeoneElse wrote: > Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > >> The "entry level editor" could reasonably limit new users to "entry level >> edits". >> Messing with anything with a relation is not a first edit kind of >> activity.

Re: [OSM-talk] Newbie alert

2014-03-12 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
The "entry level editor" could reasonably limit new users to "entry level edits". Messing with anything with a relation is not a first edit kind of activity. What if the entry level editor said "hey, this is too complex, map something else and gain some experience and come back to this section". T

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-03-03 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 4:42 AM, Janko Mihelić wrote: > > 2014-03-03 13:19 GMT+01:00 moltonel 3x Combo : > >> >> The disambiguating word is "initially". I explicitly say that >> separating nodes is an improvement. I'm trying to make it clear that >> "glued vs separate" is a "good vs better" issue,

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-27 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Janko Mihelić wrote: > I think we can divide features to virtual and physical features. > > Virtual: highway centerlines, waterway centerlines, administrative > borders, industrial and residental landuse, parks > Physical: riverbanks, buildings, meadows, forests,

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-27 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Dave F. wrote: > On 26/02/2014 01:02, Mike Thompson wrote > It would be pretty silly to have a municiple boundary splitting the centre > of a road so different administrations were responsible for maintaining the > left & the right. And yet: exactly that is done

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch deprecation

2014-02-21 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I think all three major editors make it too easy to damage relations. And that starting to damage a relation (by a user) is a perfect teaching opportunity. The moment someone deletes part of a boundary relation, is the perfect teaching moment about boundary relations. _

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-21 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 1:29 PM, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: > I agree with the "matter of taste" argument insofar as I dont complain > to mappers who initially glue areas to lines. It's just data that can > be improved like any other, and if it "tastes easyer" to that mapper, > it's fine. You reall

Re: [OSM-talk] How to Tag Closed Airport

2014-01-26 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 6:04 AM, John F. Eldredge wrote: > The "when last observed" disclaimer is unnecessary. Any recorded status is > going to be "when last observed", unless you are talking about a live > broadcast. Not necessarily. A user of Walking Papers in part

Re: [OSM-talk] How to Tag Closed Airport

2014-01-25 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I favor disused=yes, perhaps with access=no and a note=. The wiki page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Disused would favor disused:aeroway=aerodrome -Byce Notes 1) Were there an "objectnote:en=" feature meant for display in map clients, this would be a good addition also. Note 2) W

[OSM-talk] Contacting wiki admins?

2014-01-18 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Where can I find the osm wiki administrators? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/About is silent on this topic. Thanks. Sorry to bother the entire list. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] Proposed (semi) mechanical edit: Toilet cleanup

2014-01-15 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Per http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edit_Policy I'm proposing to edit about 250 uses of prior toilet tagging schemes to conform to the current scheme. This is documented at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Bryce_C_Nesbitt I propose to do this by placing the old ta

[OSM-talk] Level of detail, Zoom 19. Has it decreased?

2014-01-13 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Has the detail level of the default mapnik stylesheet (zoom 19) changed recently? Increasingly I've found that when using the map I can't get the level of detail I want when zoomed to level 19 (I end up firing up josm, or turning on "Map Data" when all I really wanted was view a map). Here's an e

[OSM-talk] Taginfo for Changesets?

2013-10-24 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Is there an equivalent of taginfo for the tags in changesets? Short of that is there a search facility for changeset tags? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Deleting data

2013-10-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Russ Nelson wrote: > > As a mapper, you have mapped from third party sources and not been in > > the place physically to confirm. But you expect other mappers to have > > a different threshold for deleting these edit, why? > > Because they are not an expert. So

Re: [OSM-talk] Timezones (was: Deleting data)

2013-10-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 5:31 AM, Janko Mihelić wrote: > I don't think we really need layers, but could use editors that are >> semantically aware of things like boundaries, >> and put them in the background until needed. >> > As far as I see, if we just prevent certain ways or nodes to share nod

Re: [OSM-talk] Timezones (was: Deleting data)

2013-10-21 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Johan C wrote: > > Essentially what we need is the concept of layers. > I don't think we really need layers, but could use editors that are semantically aware of things like boundaries, and put them in the background until needed. --- Some boundaries effectivel

Re: [OSM-talk] Overpass or XAPI API servers for 60, 000 node queries?

2013-10-07 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Roland Olbricht wrote: > Dear Bryce, > > I've cross-checked the Rambler instance. I'm sorry it indeed doesn't work > on > that instance. It looks like an element on the network, most likely Nginx, > disconnects any connection if no data is sent for ten minutes. An

Re: [OSM-talk] Overpass or XAPI API servers for 60, 000 node queries?

2013-10-07 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Roland Olbricht wrote: > > Please do not use a cancel-restart strategy. This may double the load > because > not in all cases the Apache server cancels the abandoned query. > Sadly, it's all that I can get to work. I suggest the following strategy: Please prefer

[OSM-talk] How do I get XML output from JXAPI?

2013-10-06 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I'm reading http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Jxapi which kind of implies I should expect XML from jxapi. But what I get back is JSON formatted data. How can I get XML? (I'm using wget "http://jxapi.openstreetmap.org/xapi/api/0.6/way[amenity=foo]"; )

[OSM-talk] Creating a single better maintained list of XAPI/Overpass servers

2013-10-06 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Separately, there seem to be a number of slightly different lists of public XAPI/Overpass servers: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Jxapi#Overpass_API https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API/status http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pt-br:

Re: [OSM-talk] Overpass or XAPI API servers for 60, 000 node queries?

2013-10-06 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Paul Norman wrote: > http://jxapi.openstreetmap.org/xapi/api/0.6/node[amenity=drinking_water]took > about 3 minutes total. 14.5MB result. > Thanks, however no luck here: # wget http://jxapi.openstreetmap.org/xapi/api/0.6/node[amenity=drinking_water] -O drinking

Re: [OSM-talk] Overpass or XAPI API servers for 60, 000 node queries?

2013-10-06 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Per the suggestion, I dropped the query time to 200 seconds, and same result from the public servers. The query is still running after several minutes, despite the timeout value of 200 seconds. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.o

[OSM-talk] Overpass or XAPI API servers for 60,000 node queries?

2013-10-06 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I'm seeking some help in getting a 60,000 node overpass query to complete. In the past I could generally get the query to complete by running it once, cancelling it, then running it a second time (maybe the 2nd time more data was cached). Now I get either infinite timeout or a server rejection.

Re: [OSM-talk] Developing Countries Address Problem

2013-09-03 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
See also: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/reference_point ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Annoucement: Poup layer beta reworked

2013-08-29 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 6:55 AM, Jason Remillard wrote: > Hi Roland, > > I agree with your criticisms on the show data feature. However, I > think it would better (easier for people to use) to fix the issues > with show data, rather than duplicating a bunch of its functionality > in a new way. I

Re: [OSM-talk] Counting POI Additions

2013-08-26 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Matt McNabb wrote: > Is there a way in which we can easily track each individual POI addition > per team member, rather than the number of uploads? > How much trouble to do you want to go through for this? If you want it automated and detailed, it may take some s

Re: [OSM-talk] Reference set of icons ...

2013-08-25 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Lester Caine wrote: > OK I've spent most of the day playing with id trying to make it work in a > manor that works for me. I'm at the point where I'm working out how to add > missing icons to the library, and I'm having some trouble finding a > suitable reference

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-24 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 4:45 AM, Pieren wrote: > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Ben Abelshausen > wrote: > > Sometimes it almost looks like some people here are afraid of new users. > > +1 > We also have to see "deletions" as positive contributions "a priori" > when it is really fixing somethi

Re: [OSM-talk] www.openstreetmap.org messed up

2013-08-23 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Carsten Nielsen wrote: > > Den 23-08-2013 19:45, Carsten Nielsen skrev: > > Seems like most of the top menu on www.openstreetmap.org is flowing >> below the map, making it hard to klik on the Edit "label". >> >> And just as I pressed the send button, is started

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-20 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Tom MacWright wrote: > In this case and others, we should keep in mind whether P2 or JOSM have > safer or smarter behavior. Would they 'notice' that this new road segment > has meaning? Put another way: iD will never prevent all mistakes, but does > it prevent les

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-20 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > It has been claimed often that "iD damages relations". Can we somehow > substantiate that claim? > > Could anyone provide a detailed description of a non-esoteric use case > that involves > * a kind (and structure) of relation that is very

Re: [OSM-talk] iD crashing repeatedly.

2013-08-20 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
A strong bug report would list the Operating System and version, and include reports on the behavior on other comparable platforms (e.g. what happens with Chrome/IE/Opera on the same machine), and with other complex javascript applications. A browser crashing is a browser bug: nothing iD can do sh

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-19 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > --> Going off on a tangent here and leaving the scope of immediate iD > improvements - someone else has posted that a while ago in a different > discussion. Maybe we are far too obsessed with trying to make sure nothing > is ever broken in a

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-19 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:59 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > it has been proposed to make the newly released iD v1.1 the default editor > on openstreetmap.org, meaning that if someone doesn't explicitly chose an > editor they will open iD instead of Potlatch. To try and summarize key points,

Re: [OSM-talk] Endorsing properietary social platforms

2013-08-19 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 3:58 AM, Greg Troxel wrote: > I think this is a great solution to the tension between OSM not > endorsing proprietary data sites and enabling people to do what they > want to do. Moving discussion to the project in question: https://github.com/systemed/iD/issues/1706 ___

Re: [OSM-talk] New welcome page

2013-08-19 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 9:04 AM, John Firebaugh wrote: > Hi Martin, > > On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer < > dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Could we extend the basic terms on the new welcome page? >> > > The new users I talk to tell me that the number one reason they were

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-18 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 10:04 AM, John Firebaugh wrote: > iD 1.1 displays relationship memberships in the sidebar much like P2 does. > We plan to add additional functionality (e.g. highlighting routes on the > map, visual rendering of turn restrictions) in future versions, but feel > that 1.1 make

Re: [OSM-talk] Endorsing properietary social platforms (was: Making iD the default editor on osm.org)

2013-08-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
The eventual solution Google and Microsoft were forced into is: search providers are browser plugins. Switching focus to iD: there would be list of "post edit notification" plugins one could drag into place. Facebook, Twitter and G+ would be among those, along with whatever open source version you

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-17 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Tom MacWright wrote: > > Please, do not offer a delete function that prominent ! > > This has come up before. Where should this action button move? Or should > there be an alert message? How to resolve this with pro users who get angry > with how hidden or alert-m

Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

2013-08-16 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:59 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > it has been proposed to make the newly released iD v1.1 the default > editor on openstreetmap.org, meaning that if someone doesn't explicitly > chose an editor they will open iD instead of Potlatch. Given the maintenance situati

Re: [OSM-talk] Gamification and OSM (Was: Upgraded map controls)

2013-07-28 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
> > > Personally, I'd like a way to more easily scan what my friends are up > to on > > OSM. I can get a feed of their recent changesets, but even that is pretty > > well hidden. > Yes, and "scocial interaction" goes well beyond previously established "friends". I might be interesting in followi

Re: [OSM-talk] Upgraded map controls

2013-07-28 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Janko Mihelić wrote: > > I think statistics are enough for gamification. You can have lots of > badges like > > "Biggest contributor in Belgium" - most nodes in Belgium > "Road admiral of Alabama" - most roads in Alabama > "Power man of Bavaria" - biggest contri

Re: [OSM-talk] Using OpenStreetMap on a daily basis

2013-07-24 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
> > It is as if the map was meant to be made, not used: Regarding all this: A current theme in OSM development is to "make editing easier, so more people map". Without any quibble with better design or better tools: I'd rather use the output of hundreds of dedicated mappers, as opposed to the le

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-GB] New tile rendering server (Experimental)

2013-07-24 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Rob Nickerson wrote: > > Great work, and thanks to Andy for his work re-writing the rendering rules > in CartoCSS. > > I'm forwarding this to the general "talk" mailing list as I expect there > will be some not Brits who will be pleased to hear about the progress

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