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Wenn jemand etwas findet, was übersehen wurde, bitte melden...
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nicht mehr editierbar. So löblich Euer Ziel sein mag,
Ihr wärt maßgeblich dafür verantwortlich, dass La Paz für die dort
wohnenden Mapping-Anfänger ein Buch mit sieben Siegeln wird, und ebenso
jede andere Stadt, die ihr anfasst.
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Hallo,
On 18.07.19 07:58, ScubbX wrote:
> Genügt es in dem Fall, wenn dich jemand darum bittet, oder soll das
> Problem in einer Email an data@ erläutert werden?
Ich kümmere mich darum, dass das in der DWG richtig dokumentiert wird,
und führe den Revert durch.
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nichts einzuwenden.)
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ways, whereas a simple line would not.
Way separation is not about the legal aspect ("do not cross this line")
but about the physical.
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xpect a
generic link to a definition of the word "describe" or, as you put it, a
link to the tag "description" - that's not helpful here, unnecessarily
disrupts the reading flow, and even confusing when someone clicks on it.
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chen, und dann
vom eigenen Wohnzimmer aus das ganze Land beglücken möchte.
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aus einem Shapefile geladenen) amtlichen Adressen anzeigen.
OpenStreetMap ist kein Sammel- und Verteilmechanismus für amtliche Daten.
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Hi,
On 25.06.19 17:02, Sven Geggus wrote:
> Ich könnte mir eine Lösung mit "Kartendaten ©OpenStreetMap Mitwirkende"
> Aufklebern vorstellen.
Guerilla-Aufkleber-Aktion!
> P.S.: Bitte keine eigenmächigen Aktionen!
Och mönsch...
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take the measures needed to ensure compliance.
Don't just sit there and sigh "it's just how I predicted, the world is
ending and there's nothing I can do".
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g written down. If someone
posts a question and three others tell them that this was not a good
idea, they will likely learn, and everyone else who reads the exchange
will learn, too.
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nvolved will
recognize it, and those who weren't probably shouldn't waste any time
with it.
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al einen Browser starten und darin auf
einen Link klicken soll, um mich bei OSM anzumelden und die Mail zu
bestätigen? Ich kann mir nicht vorstellen, dass das von den Benutzern
akzeptiert werden würde.
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cks/2839 ist vor 8
Tagen abgelaufen. Seitdem hat er, zumindest mit diesem Account, keine
Edits hochgeladen; schauen wir mal, ob er sich mit seinen nächsten Edits
an die Anforderungen hält, und wenn ja, dann soll er in Gottes Namen
sein "Telefonbuch" pflegen.
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on and don't
participate further, and a very small number of these 620 answer all the
questions. The mailing lists have fewer people participating but those
that do are more likely to engage in a bidirectional fashion.
It would be interesting to quantify this in a more scientific manner.
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tomatic edit
for it.
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t or automated edit rules have, but I hope that
awareness about this is growing, and everyday hobbyist mappers will
start pointing out these rules to organiesed editors they encounter.
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lso found that many of the objects are bang in the middle of roads.
Which means at the very least that their location has not been visually
inspected by the uploader.
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dits/username" (where username is the OSM
user name of the account that you will be using to perform the edits -
think about this now so that you don't have to rename the page later),
and add it to Category:Automated edits log."
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k at it, the
tags will have to be "downgraded" again because whatever iD thought to
be a good idea, is not actually a good idea in Australia.
Do not blindly assume that what the iD editor suggests as an "upgrade"
is actually an improvement.
We are not saying that what you are doing i
y, while the OSMF board's cooperation might be required
for a few legal aspects, there are many potential avenues of "direct
action" that people could take to, but apparently the issue is not
*that* big for most.
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bereit, von der DWG aus großzügig alle Edits der
letzten Monate/Jahre dieses Accounts zu revertieren, wenn in der
österreichischen Community ein grober Konsens bestehen sollte, dass der
Schaden insgesamt größer als der Nutzen ist.
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than he did following the trail.
The message has some details. I wonder if there's anyone near the area,
or with knowledge of it, or contacts with knowledge, who would be
willing and able to look into this?
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Hi,
On 5/28/19 10:32, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> I think this would definitely be the healthiest and most common-sense
> approach for the community.
(with my OSMF board hat on)
I would like to make it clear that nothing of what I or any other OSMF
board member has said in this thread or any
d I think that Andy is right
in pointing out that an apology is in order -
https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/6442 - unless of course the
the iD project's Code of Conduct has some magic "does not apply to
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ead of "fuck you stinking mailing list pseudo community, I'll do
what I please and anyway my friends all like it", it can be acceptable.
AFAIK many editors for example silently drop "created-by" and didn't
hear anyone complain about that.
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Hi,
if someone writes a scientific paper and wants to reference an OSM data
set they used, what would be the correct way to do that? Typically such
mentions contain author and name of the work, and publication place and
year. Or maybe the web-like "retrieved on ..."?
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I'm realistic enough to accept that wikidata links are here to stay, but
we have to rein in the "the more the merrier" thinking with regards to
wikidata.
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DWG have received a rather detailed report about some potential
mis-naming (or missing names) of streets in Rockford IL but I think this
would be best handled by a local. Any volunteers I could forward the
issue to?
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Hi,
On 4/11/19 21:26, Roland Olbricht wrote:
> Could it have been that the file triggered an arcane bug in a gz library
> from the Java universe?
Yes, that's exactly the problem - these files decompress fine with gzip,
just not with Java.
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and still
remain 100% intellectual property of its operator?
Further, assuming that we have a system that has ingested OSM by deep
learning and we say that this means its internal database is ODbL, what
would this mean for the output later produced by the same machine?
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trägen zujubelt - müsste man dann nich auch kritisch darauf
hinweisen, dass hier der Markt verzerrt wird, weil wir eine Firma zum
Maintainer gemacht haben und so der Marktzugang für eine andere Firma,
die in eine andere Richtung ziehen will, erschwert wird?
Und wenn man zu dem Schluss käme, dass hi
Hi,
On 27.03.19 16:54, Dave F via talk wrote:
> Could a block be put on him before he causes more disruption please?
Done. You can also write to d...@osmfoundation.org directly next time if
you're specifically asking for moderator action.
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report, and (b) resident-only gates?
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recommend not to do), then you need to provide a
mechanism for individual mappers to ask the bot to keep its hands off
something ("matkoniecz:bot=no" or so).
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something that the larger community can help against.
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making community of course! About
people. Smiling faces inviting you to go out and map your neighbourhood ;)
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including OsmCha and "OSM Suspects" and other more
niche applications, and quite a few people are actually using these
services. QA used to be the domain of a few committed individuals but
meanwhile there's a proper "long tail" of QA contributors.
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ave a look at these changes and tell me if they need to be
reverted? (Or revert them yourselves if you want.)
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amp; share-alike, and left the project when we switched to ODbL.
With today's interactive options, it would indeed be possible to show
the authors of individual features when hovering ;)
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Hi,
On 01.03.19 16:04, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> Poppycock.
The rest of us are trying to have a serious conversation here. Please
adapt or leave.
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interests are represented.
The fact that the resulting sub-group of the OSMF would be quite small
is food for thought!
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t the web
site, still pointing to something completely different. But it wouldn't
exactly worsen the situtation...
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e.replace('http://', 'https://www.', 1) + '/' == new_location,
website.replace('http://www.', 'https://', 1)
== new_location,
website.replace('http://www.', 'https://', 1) + '/' == new_location)):
element['tags']['website'] = new_location
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more discussion happens before edits are made.
But I don't think that "bot or not bot" is the big question.
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if ever. Other
options exist, like creating subsidiary organiations elsewhere, or
simply stick with it.
Nonetheless, it can't hurt to know your options.
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o forward the letter if anyone is interested.
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Hi,
On 10.01.19 22:36, Andreas Vilén wrote:
> However there
> doesn't seem to be any map that covers the entire area.
I don't know what you mean. Of course OSM covers the entire area?
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can
be important to know for a rambler if they're on public or private land
because they're more likely to get shot on private land. Hope this is
not so much of a concern in the UK ;)
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Hallo,
am 23./24. Februar gibt es wieder ein Hackweekend in Karlsruhe. Details
hier auf der Wikiseite:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Karlsruhe_Hack_Weekend_February_2019
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on the icon to use.
It would be good if you could link to these discussions instead of just
claiming they were had, for the benefit of those who joined between "a
few years ago" and now.
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e tone on the Thailand forum on the international talk
mailing list is probably much less helpful than the two suggestions I
have made above.
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ibuting data to
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umspricht,
ist die Queue eh voll, und es gibt nur lange Gesichter.
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or until she sees the sign you've erected), and then she'll deliver you the
> letter. A working postcode will speed the process up but isn't absolutely
> necessary.
And then it will go into OSM, and all the firefighters use OSM nowadays
anyway because their official maps are outdated.
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ake into account that transparency *can*
occasionally mean that bullying becomes easier, and that people who
would otherwise have voted yes or no suddenly vote abstain just to keep
out of trouble.
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he verifiability of
boundaries. Even in the absence of actual marked lines, fences, or
walls, you will often find the "reflections" that you speak of if you
look a bit closer: Which government do I pay my taxes to? Which police
department is responsible for my area? Which local authority d
auf Privatgrund ein "Eingriff in das Privateigentum" sei. In Deutschland
hat das rechtlich keinen Bestand - wie ist aber die Situation in Österreich?
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anders beschwert sich nun, dass Leute
hier durch OSM zu Gesetzesverstößen animiert werden können.
Taggt man die mit access=no? informal=yes? legal=no? illegal=yes? Oder
wie ;)
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erung des Problems auf Stadtstaaten sei dem Leser zur Übung
überlassen ;)
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ved but that needs to be on a general level, and not tacking on an
"Ukraine exemption" to the rule.
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all? I've
looked around a bit and found some roads marked "ref=FS" but
these were few and far between.
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atiently explain the "on-the-ground rule" and that using this rule
has many positive effects but sometimes also means you have to do
something you don't like - then I guess people could be made to understand.
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that they are
marked as "disputed") then they can add their own boundaries to the data
set, like e.g. openstreetmap.in is doing.
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Thank you all for the helpful discussion. I have now split California in
a northern and southern part along the recommended counties. Let's see
how long it takes until the parts grow too big again!
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Hallo,
On 09.11.2018 10:44, Friedrich Volkmann wrote:
> On 09.11.2018 09:52, Frederik Ramm wrote:
>> Ich bin Mitglied des Vorstands der OSM Foundation, die diese
>> Mailingliste betreibt, und erkläre in dieser Rolle: Das Versenden von
>> wöchentlichen Erinnerungen üb
nen ihre
Beschwerde schriftlich richten an:
OpenStreetMap Foundation
St John’s Innovation Centre
Cowley Road
Cambridge
CB4 0WS
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r Ansicht nach diese Entität "OSM", die etwas "zu tun
gedenkt" und Auskunft über diese von ihr gehegten Pläne geben kann?
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nd importing *that* diff.
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ut from underneath the Netherlands and
France (especially as there will be some overlap so combining the two
files can be difficult).
I'm open to suggestions on this. I would guess the Dutch and the French
are rather relaxed about the Saint Martin/Sint Maarten split but who
knows, maybe it'
elgium, at least
that's how things look like at the moment... who knows what data imports
are in the works ;)
I'll start a different thread about the Caribbean.
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other, if
you're very unlucky, the update happens somewhere in between and then
you get 6 old and 7 new files, but you can protect yourself against that
by using the file names that end with a time spec
(drenthe-181106.osm.pbf instead of drenthe-latest.osm.pbf).
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but I hope that's not too bad.
Please let me know if you spot any problems!
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ssen).
Wenn es ein Gesetz gibt, dass sagt, dass Du Deinen Namen ans Geschäft
schreiben musst, dann könnte man ja sagen, es besteht ein berechtigtes
öffentliches Interesse daran, dass jeder weiss, dass Du der Inhaber
bist. Nichts anderes drückt so ein Gesetzt ja aus, oder?
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13:58, Tod Fitch wrote:
> In any case, I assume a good description of the extract boundaries will
> be provided
Heh, I had hoped that by asking here, I'll be able to find a
self-explaining split where everyone knows immediately from the name
what's in it. Apparently not so easy ;)
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lapping areas, it would be *possible* to have
them if it matches what people expect to find. I could do
SoCal+NorCal+Bay Area, or the 6 Californias plus Bay Area, or whatever.
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ch ein paar weitere)
kenntlich gemacht werden.
> Meine ganz persönliche Meinung dazu ist, dass das Persönlichkeitsrecht
> des in dem Fall rechtlich zu mappenden Firmeninhabers stärker als die
> Verpflichtung aus dem Handelsregister ist, denn Persönlichkeitsrechte
> sind im Grundge
would not hurt if I simply implement the future
boundaries on the download server right now. Which of the provinces are
due to change?
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. is there a demand for this?
3. what would be a sensible way to split California - in 58 counties, or
maybe just go with SoCal and NorCal for now?
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Ich bin aber nicht sicher, ob das
haltbar ist, und die Internet-Recherche nach allem, was mit Datenschutz
und Privatspähre zu tun hat, ist leider inzwischen fast unmöglich
geworden ;)
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I hope he will explain himself here. I will also consider reverting some
of the most unusual contributions in so far as I can determine them
algorithmically.
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ware that allows specialist contributions in
niche areas - can be a valuable addition to the OSM editing landscape,
so in general I think it sounds like a good idea!
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part of Portgual. This means we'd have to
start which claims are serious and which are just for old times' sake ;)
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be interesting to develop a tagging scheme that lets us
not only record "this border is disputed" but also "this is the extent
of country X according to country Y", which we currently don't have.
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ja angemerkt und das war der Grund, warum ich diese Ergänzung
vorgeschlagen hatte.
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te das also nur dann weiter verfolgen, wenn man verhindern
möchte, dass es zu einer Einigung kommt.
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nn dann jemand kommt und das schön entklebt, ist das ok.
4. Du kannst niemals einen entklebten Wald entlang einer Straße wieder
verkleben.
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en.
Ich hab mal ins Blaue geschossen mit einem Entwurf:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Frederik_Ramm/Fl%C3%A4chenverklebung
sowas in der Art könnte man ja mal fertigschreiben und dann abstimmen
und dann hat die leidige Diskussion vielleicht ein Ende...
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of the ways"
A number of people have complained in the past
http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=698649
but many of the issues seem to be present still.
Before I ask him to fix this -- are any of the behaviours / mapping
techniques outlined above somehow usual in Canada?
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Fre
quot; ausgesprochenen Spass zu bereiten.
Mittelfristig wäre es gut, wenn wir in dieser Sache zu einem Konsens im
Projekt oder zumindest mal in Deutschland kommen könnten. So schwer kann
das doch nicht sein?
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