Does anyone use the fact that some of these were set to N/A by the
original Naptan import? If so, you might want to discuss changeset
19472400 with its author, which has removed a number of these.
Cheers,
Andy
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On 04/12/2013 00:52, John Firebaugh wrote:
This past weekend, the OpenStreetMap.org front page launched with a
new design.
First of all - thanks for posting here. As I mentioned in the other
thread it's always helpful to put a human face on some of the design
decisions to try and understand
Jason Ward wrote:
Extra / New Info. The OSM iD (in-browser) editor is also not showing
the Bing Hi res images (so its not just me!) Something has happened
recently. I'd be interested to here from other BNE mappers because I
am confuzzled.
Not just Australia either - someone on IRC
Christoph Hormann wrote:
... In particular from my perspective (and others have made statements
in a similar direction) the claim of an overall better usability is
somewhat doubtful at this point.
My impression (already expressed on this list) is that the new design is
significantly less
JB wrote:
Besides, now that I'm connected, but do not have a picture to illustrate myself in my profile, where/how do I click on modify ?
It certainly doesn't look like that for me. Perhaps you need to see
if someone's already logged a
to determine functionality.
Taking just one example, if I go to http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/ there's
clear and consistent feedback to the user about what every item on that
page does. If I instead go to
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SomeoneElse/history , there isn't.
It's clear
Simon Poole wrote:
I really fail to see what you believe was better about the old layout,
maybe if you could give an example?
Just 5 examples to start with:
1) On the main osm.org site, the extra space taken up by the bar at the
top and the huge welcome area at the left distracts from the
Simon Poole wrote:
As to general complaints, I don't see any way forward without making
somebody unhappy
Understood (hence my Henry Ford quote) but on that general point - can
anyone explain in what way the new site is better than the old one? I'd
love to know what I can do with the new
Matthijs Melissen wrote:
In Birmingham, all bus stops have been imported from Naptan, but
during the import, the name tag has not been set. I am considering
adding the name tag, by setting it to something like:
camelcase(naptan:Street) + ' / ' + naptan:CommonName
That way, the name tag in OSM
Frederik Ramm wrote:
I looked ad my personal nearby users list today for the first time
in a while and found only 2 people with edits in the last year, 16
people with no edits whatsoever, and the rest between over one year
ago and over five years ago.
(for the benefit of the tiny
Jonathan wrote:
I can almost see OSM splitting into two halves, one half concentrating
on the human facing side of OSM, such as map rendering, interfacing
with users and building user apps and features, and the other half
concentrating on the data side, such as editing, data structure,
Jonathan wrote:
... but are traces really that important now? They have some uses but
the bulk of sources now and going forward are from other methods?
If other methods means copying from other data sources rather than
actually going out and surveying then you're never going to get the
best
On 09/11/2013 13:14, Rob Nickerson wrote:
We are mixing up two issues here. One is as to whether historic layers
should be removed from the default menus
What exactly do you mean by the default menus here? There are no
default menus in OSM, only menus in different instances of different
Paul Norman wrote:
It's worth pointing out that iD doesn't actually have an imagery list.
It inherits its from the editor-imagery-index project at
http://osmlab.github.io/editor-imagery-index/, which is for
OpenStreetMap editing, not historical mapping or a general list of all
possible
A number of potentially problematical edits to railways have been made
in the Manchester and Leeds areas over the last day or so. It's by a new
mapper who seems to be still feeling their way a bit and people local to
those areas might want to check some of their edits.
For example in Leeds
David Fisher wrote:
(P.S. and as a local, I can confirm that no ways are actually named
Vanguard Way on the ground, at least not in the Croydon area)
Thanks for that. It's something that happens fairly regularly around my
patch too - people add the name of the long distance route to the
Andrew Hain wrote:
Is there a useful distinction between the two 1:25000 layers?
In the area that I was looking at (just south of Kirk Ireton in
Derbyshire) they appear to be different original maps, and it appears
that coverage of each layer is slightly different.
On the subject of the
Rob Nickerson wrote:
2). iD is a general purpose editor. It can be used for
OpenHistoricalMap too.
Indeed - perhaps I should have been clearer that I'm talking about the
instance in use on the OSM site used to edit the OSM map, not any other
instance which presumably could feature any
UrbanRambler1 wrote:
Hi David,
(it was me that said this, actually)
It looks like the Vanguard Way website uses OS maps, and the ways
that form part of it in OSM haven't all been surveyed for e.g.
surface, gates and stiles, and that sort of thing.
I can assure you that I walked every bit of
Just spotted this relation:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/86545
There do seem to be an awful lot of roads and footpaths called Vanguard
Way or blah / Vanguard Way in that relation. I'm guessing that
perhaps on the ground they're not really called that...
Cheers,
andy
I logged a bug with iD regarding the non-visibility of some items in the
background layer menu:
https://github.com/systemed/iD/issues/1929#issuecomment-27236976
The issue that I actually logged is actually being addressed as part of
a different bug, but another question span out of it. Of
Over the weekend I spotted that Sheffield seems to have been added twice
recently:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2510041800
and
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2494466157
as both are recent edits, I presume that both were added in good faith,
possibly almost in parallel.
Tom Chance wrote:
Hello all,
I'm trying to get this user account suspended/banned:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Quercus1/edits
For info, I've just reverted
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/18538612. See
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/18542407 for details.
Andy Mabbett wrote:
Can someone remind me of the method of fixing these en mass, please?
JOSM todo list plugin, perhaps?
https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/24052/josm-and-taginfo-how-to-easily-move-through-a-list
Cheers,
Andy
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Tom Chance wrote:
On 23 September 2013 12:22, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org
mailto:frede...@remote.org wrote:
It seems you have already repaired the most obvious damage yourself.
Of the changesets in my local area - others covered some other edits.
For info, I've just reverted
Dudley Ibbett wrote:
In Upper Hulme (Old Buxton Road and Roach Road) and on roads above
(Back of the Rocks) and below (Blackshaw Lane) there seem to be odd
changes between Unclassified and Tertiary Road tags.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/53.1444/-1.9821
I've no experience with
Hi Peter,
Thanks for replying here.
Peter Miller wrote:
So...on the basis that we should tag what is there, we see a white
sign with a black diagonal line on it then that is what we should
indicate. We do of course interpret that by putting what we believe if
the correct legal speed limit
Richard Mann wrote:
IIRC a lot of those tags were added by Chriscf, without any local
surveying
I think that you're thinking about these:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/81529513/history
(a slightly different case)
Cheers,
Andy
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OpenStreetmap HADW wrote:
The edits seem to be seriously incompetent, rather than actually
bogus, or malicious.
What they've added is mostly just untagged ways (sometimes for
buildings, sometimes perhaps fences, sometimes unclear). I'd mostly
therefore mostly agree with incompetence rather
OpenStreetmap HADW wrote:
Incidentally, is there any easy way of rendering a before image of a
change?
A couple of possibilities:
o If you're quick, the Cycle Map layer on osm.org might show the old
version. There are also many other OSM-based online maps, many of which
don't update as
Frederik Ramm wrote:
(the *ideal* but often utopian course of action being that the user
sees his mistake and fixes it himself!),
In my personal experience, mappers that are still engaged with the
project *1 normally do reply to a hello-and-welcome-but-by-the-way
message positively *2, and
On 22/09/2013 10:03, yvecai wrote:
Of course, it should be accompagnied with a large campaign of
multi-polygons fix.
... and a patch to any editors that don't create multipolygons in this
format. For example, here are three attempts at multipolygons in iD, P2
and JOSM:
A number of duplicate Metrolink stations were introduced ages ago by a
new mapper by mistake. I've (finally) got around to patching them up.
See my changesets from:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/17971069
I'm mentioning this here because local mappers may want to check on a
I've noticed that locally a number of GB:nsl_single, GB:nsl_dual,
and GB:motorway maxspeed:type values have been consolidated into
gb:national, so that that gone from nowhere to being the second
most-used value:
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/maxspeed:type#values
An example is:
malenki wrote:
Do you also look for relations?
By chance I found a MP relation with one outer not closed way -
nothing more. Before the last edit with iD it had 5 outer and 33 inner
ways: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1417720/history
Yes - a while back I noticed one example of
Tom Chance wrote:
Here's another one, this editor really ought to be fixed or removed:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/17655245
I tried using the JOSM Revert plugin, but it just downloaded the nodes
without the way.
I messaged this user offering to help fix back on 4/9 after
Tom Chance wrote:
I've seen two new users accidentally delete residential landuse areas
near me in the past fortnight:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/17695130
Presumably http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/5019651 still needs
to be restored? It should be doable with
Previously (in
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2013-August/067936.html)
I had a quick count-up of new user errors in bits of GB that I'm
familiar with for the month before iD became the default editor for most
browsers.
I've done the same again (for the period 20/8/2013 to
On 08/09/2013 13:52, SK53 wrote:
Sorry that should be White Lion, and it's 500 metres from the Mallard
That'd be
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2450483135
(walked past it yesterday)
Cheers,
Andy
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OpenStreetmap HADW wrote:
I keep coming across cases where marking the access to a way based on
primary category will imply that the way is not suitable for use on
foot. That becomes particularly interesting with barriers, as in
those cases, the sidewalk may bypass the barrier.
In that
OpenStreetmap HADW wrote:
In practice, there is only one renderer for general users
That's a statement that could provoke some discussion, I suspect.
If you have a look at the questions on help.osm.org you'll see lots of
why doesn't X do Y type questions, but it isn't always immediately
Lester Caine wrote:
If the fix for this is to manually apply the national speed limit to
every road, then OK, it's the first time anybody has suggested a fix
and I'm willing to give it a try ...
(I'll assume that's not an entirely serious suggestion - the last time
someone tried it it was
david wrote:
On 30/08/13 12:17, OpenStreetmap HADW wrote:
In practice, I doubt that new public rights of way are being created
these days, so being out of date is probably not a problem. (I'm not
sure if that applies to long distance footpaths.)
A quick read through the planning application
Steve Bennett wrote:
Hi,
Just wondering what tools you use to keep an eye on that area? I'd
love to have a better idea of what other editors are doing in my area.
For new users, it's similar to Martin, although via the map rather than
the RSS feed.
For me it's essentially:
Florian Lohoff wrote:
ANY road should be used for routing - track/service do have an
implicit access=destination and should not used for through traffic
but have no route restrictions otherwise
That may be the case where you live but I wouldn't make that assumption
worldwide. I certainly
John Firebaugh wrote:
During the last month in this area:
P2 iD JOSM Other (Wheelmap / Go Map! / POI+)
Made no newbie errors34 17 3 3
Made at least one newbie error 40 16 1 3
Made more serious errors 5 0 1 0
So 45 of 79 new
Darren Biggs wrote:
Can someone give me a place on the Map where I can see this road
shown, which I can repeat?
Specifically the Unsurfaced road dashed lines. I see many tracks, but
not one Unsurfaced road
Secondary12 Secondary road
Unsurfaced Unsurfaced road
Track Track
Byway
Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
it has been proposed to make the newly released iD v1.1 the
default editor on openstreetmap.org, meaning that if someone doesn't
explicitly chose an editor they will open iD instead of Potlatch.
In an attempt to put some numbers to to the errors made by new
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
I don't see PL1 since months in the edit tab, thought it was retired
because of 64bit node IDs. If there is a trick to still get it to use
I'd be interested because of the deleted ways function.
Get to wherever you want to edit and then:
John F. Eldredge wrote:
IP address 192.168.1.1 http://192.168.1.1 is a local, unroutable
address, meaning that it would have to be on your local LAN for you to
connect to it.
(for the benefit of those who haven't had the pleasure of dealing with
DNS and naming on Windows)
That's the
David Woolley wrote:
I don't even want to go into too much detail about the nature of the
vandalism here.
If you did want to give an example without making any specific
reference, perhaps you could perform similar vandalism (in a different
place with different names / other identifying info)
On 02/08/2013 18:05, Stefan Keller wrote:
* User puts a marker on a Google map? Then it's not usable.
Do you use foursquare? They switched to osm.
FWIW, the FourSquare application on at least one phone* displays
locations in the native Maps application, data from which is most
certainly
Brett Russell wrote:
Ok the first step is getting the OSM data. I am aware that
http://download.geofabrik.de/ provides .pbf files but for Australia it
is 145MB. Bit much of a download for a mobile phone given that I am
looking to update Tassie every week
So does anyone know where I will
Lester Caine wrote:
The problem is that directions given for major junctions tend to be
'straight on' where the ACTUAL move is to take the slip road.
FWIW, this isn't a problem I've seen (either on eTrex or Nuvi) with
Garmins using OSM data. I suspect it's down to the router rather than a
Paul Norman wrote:
It's important to remember that leisure=park doesn't apply to all parks.
I'm guessing that the second park in that sentence is used in the
North American national/state park sense whereas the one in the
original question usage sounded closer to British English usage*.
Arthur Geeson wrote:
I was chatting with my brother yesterday who walked the Robin Hood Way
last year and he sent me his gps track of the whole trip. Where/who
should I send this to be most use by others? I see there is Robin
Hood Way page but I don't know how to contribute.
I'd just upload
Someone's being adding translations of place names using:
http://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C4%85ra%C5%A1as:Jungtin%C4%97s_Karalyst%C4%97s_miestai
(which in turn references something else, according to the wikipedia page)
Apparently Place names translations are public knowledge and it can be
Dave F. wrote:
On 08/05/2013 14:37, Douglas Musaazi wrote:
Great work!! let's go ahead and use it.
I'd love to but it's very sluggish while dragging in latest FF, the
walk-through help keeps hanging the pop-ups appear over the area I
want to edit
One advantage of it being slower than P2
stephen.pete...@sky.com wrote:
Hi all
Comments please on my proposal to upload new data about Neighbourhood
Planning Areas in England. This will involve re-using parish and
electoral ward boundaries across the country.
Proposal is here
-
I notice that a section of HS2 phase 2 has popped up in OSM:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/203945312/history
Let's assume that the route of a fairly major proposed construction
project is something that ought to be in OSM (it's likely to be built,
unlike a number of wishlist
didier2020 wrote:
H
I have not analyzed the causes of these duplicates.
I delete a lot of ways and node everywhere on the planet,
also this explanation seemed necessary on this list
Would it be possible to link to the relevant changesets?
Cheers,
Andy
First of all - thanks for all the replies. I've added a link to this
thread to the map note.
David Earl wrote:
What do people think of this:
http://osm.org/go/0EQSJEoZT-- (aerial: http://binged.it/10kuDNm )
It's a couple of months since I was there, but my recollection is that
that one
I recently added this note in Lincoln:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/note/1565
There are a number of problems here. The A15 here isn't a dual
carriageway, and the roads between the southbound A15 and Pottergate
consequentially don't exist. There may well be turn restrictions into
and
I was recently in contact with a new mapper in Sheffield, and they
wondered how best to represent a local community association (i.e. not
an adminsistrative subdivision; just a bunch of people from three
adjacent streets working together). I said that I'd ask here :)
I suspect some sort of
Brett Russell wrote:
In all very frustrating as I do more complex mapping task.
One thought that springs to mind is, the next time something seems to be
going a bit wrong, perhaps try and talk to someone live in one of the
IRC channels? The main international one #osm has people in it
Henry Gomersall wrote:
That's interesting. So it seems that Mapnik _is_ rendering fences.
Who's the arbiter of what is rendered in the main map?
There's a trac subject for it, but as I understand it requests for
what gets rendered on the main map are a bit backed up right now
because the
Will Phillips wrote:
If this data can be used I only plan to use it to supplement ground
surveys where signage is missing or ambiguous. For example, there are
several urban footpaths around where I live that I know to be rights
of way but they have no sign. I would like to add designation tags
John Baker wrote:
But if there was no existing landuse tag what is the harm?
Without visiting each place and doing an on-site survey, how do you know
what the actual landuse is?
It worries me that these sort of global search-and-replaces are taking
place without any discussion
The best
Brett Russell wrote:
I am working my way around the State and noticed a few edits to tracks
that I have put in. The history function option in Polatch 2 is
annoying as it gets swamped with global changes.
That sounds like you're talking about the history tab on the main site
- it does get
stephen.pete...@sky.com wrote:
Comments please on my proposal to upload new data about Neighbourhood
Planning Areas in England. This will involve re-using parish and
electoral ward boundaries across the country.
First, perhaps you could explain the steps that you took to follow the
Clifford Snow wrote:
One of the features I'd really like to see is a way to send mapping
party announcements to people in the mapping party area. Of course
we'd need a way for people to opt out, but inviting people out to
become part of a community is a good way to engage more users.
Dave F. wrote:
I wanted to send a link to people who'd never heard of OSM that
explains the basics of what it is entails, but I couldn't find a
page with a clear, simple explanation of what crowd sourcing is that
they can contribute .
Perhaps this:
Bob Kerr wrote:
There are a number of tags which are golf=Tee instead of golf=tee. Is
there any easy way that I find out where these tags are located so
that I can correct them.
Click the XAPI link over at the right, or open Josm, install the remote
control plugin and click the JOSM
SomeoneElse wrote:
... install the remote control plugin ...
EdLoach on IRC has just informed me that it's not a plugin any more
(shows how long ago I last turned it on!).
It's part of the core functionality: preferences / thing that looks
like a TV remote at the left / enable
I've noticed that a number of the new nodes in this changeset:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/15118353
are actually duplicates of existing ones.
Can anyone think of an easy way to identify and delete the duplicates in
a systematic way (rather than, say, loading each one into
I notice that Sealand now appears in OSM twice:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/32720920
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/207889286
Perhaps we should check that the mappers concerned have done a proper
survey and not just one from the comfort of their armchairs :)
Cheers,
Andy
Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Someone has created relations for the UK parts of several
international cycle routes, such as 2793118, which is EuroVelo 2 -
part United Kingdom [sic].
It'd be nice to know what the source of this is as well. I don't
believe that I've seen EuroVelo signs in e.g.
On 17/03/2013 19:02, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote:
I would say that altering our tagging to avoid these numbers appearing
on maps or in directions is to a large extent tagging for the render /
router. The reference number *is* C616.
Maybe in these cases some way of indicating to data
Anyone likely to be in the vicinity of Crystal Palace in the near
future? There's an area that could do with a bit of tidying a little to
the west of it:
Jason Cunningham wrote:
It looks like an edit in the Dartmoor area has caused problems. A
large square chunk of heath is missing with a waterway unnaturally
running along the line of the bottom right of the square.
When did it break? Using ITO's OSM mapper it looks like there have been
Andrew wrote:
Is it any use for the API to allow soft happens at all?
I'd imagine that the API has to accept pretty much anything as it has to
deal with many languages and many character sets.
Try drawing something (anything) in http://shapecatcher.com/ - if you
ignore the miscelleous
SomeoneElse wrote:
I'm planning to remove names that I can't find evidence for
I think that it's clear from the replies to this that the general
concensus is in favour of not having these as names. I'll get on with
updating the road, in each case moving the previous name to description
Chris Hill wrote:
How did the mapper get this info? What licence is it under? FoI for
example is copyright and so still needs to be released under a
suitable licence. AFAIK local authorities are responsible for naming
roads not the DfT.
(from OSM messages from the original mapper following
Recently various sections along the A50 between Derby and Stoke have
grown names, for example here:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/202232245/history
I've driven along that section of road many times, and I don't believe
I've seen a name on any of the new sections.
According to
Vincent Pottier wrote:
Oups ! Sorry !
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/10423011
Especialy
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/39199782
that as been flatten.
I notice that this hasn't been reverted yet, but I also notice that it
does appear to be a legitimate edit by a
On 03/02/2013 12:22, David Clark wrote:
ie I have a route (The Mawson trail) that passes along a section of a
fire road, but it doesn't pass along the full length of the fire road.
How do a I select only a section of the fire road (not the full length
of it) so I can make the relationship to
Hi all,
There have been a number of changes made recently in the Slough /
Reading area that probably need someone local to have a look at them (if
this isn't already happening, of course).
Here's an example:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/186031568/history
I'm not familiar enough
Michael Kugelmann wrote:
This email for introducing the uMap project.
TL;DR: http://umap.fluv.io/ (demo site).
the name umap is not very well chosen: there is already a project
called uMap which exists since long time!
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Speedpilgrim
I don't see umap
Gregory Williams wrote:
I know that E2 exists down here in Kent. In the past couple of years a number
of new signs have been put up on the North Downs Way, which E2 follows. These
include an insert with a European flag and E2 on them.
Thanks to all who replied. It's good to know that at
Anyone familiar with Alton Towers / rollercoasters in general?
This changeset:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14382319
has merged a number of different-layered sections of Nemesis into
one. It's by a very new mapper, so I suspect that the layer changes
were accidental. It's
Christian Quest wrote:
I that case nodes are not shared by the ways, but are duplicate (same
lat/lon) and as Clay mentionned, this will ring some other alarm.. I
would move one of them a little bit to avoid it.
I can understand why you're saying this, but isn't education of remote
fixers that
Andy Mabbett wrote:
Can we solve the problem of how to do this, in OSM?
Not a direct solution to the problem, but:
My quick-and-extremely dirty approach was to search and replace problem
strings between the OSM extract download and mkgmap that creates the
Nuvi map - I think that it
Rob Nickerson wrote:
Am I doing something wrong? Is the fixer tool flagging something up
incorrectly?
In cases such as this I normally say to the other mapper that I was last
there on so-and-so date, and when I was last there it looked like X; and
ask whether perhaps he's been there more
I recently deleted a doodle in Hay-on-Wye, but after doing so noticed
that to there northwest there seem to be a cycle path and a footpath
_very_ close together:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.073537lon=-3.130221zoom=18layers=M
I guess that this could be correct, but presumably it's
Lester Caine wrote:
So probably just a case that your deletion needs rolling back.
Just to clarify - I've not deleted the duplicate footway and cycleway.
What I deleted was this:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/199683324/history
If you look at it in P1 it's an obvious untagged
The following changeset by a new mapper near Leyland appears problematical:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14536266
It doesn't appear to be malicious - it looks like it's a case of delete
everything and redraw it badly.
An example is:
Philip Barnes wrote:
I have successfully reverted the changeset.
Thanks
Now dreaming up a suitable diplomatic explanation for the new mapper.
I usually use something along the lines of
hello-and-welcome-and-by-the-way-something-appears-to-have-gone-wrong,
but in this case it's more of a
Gregory wrote:
Middlesbrough has a lot more land use are surrounding it. But it's
been done by as large areas of farmland to quickly fill in the blank
canvas, and I'm not sure it has much ground-knowledge at all.
That does highlight an issue that I find frustrating - that mapping of
Steven Horner wrote:
I have added several footpaths locally but I am often left wondering
how to tag these or how to break them into sections. I have followed
the guidelines at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines but
should I tag the footpath with the local
David Groom wrote:
Last time this was discussed on the list I think we favoured prow:ref
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2012-June/013424.html
Yes - well remembered - there are indeed lots more of those:
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=prow_ref
Cheers,
Andy
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