Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-02 Thread shaun everiss
hmmm do it anyway. Ok I can't prommise any donations but I am part admin of a podcast site, I can submit material for inclusion, I can probably promote the project heck could even get my own section basedon that project if I wished at least I think I can. At 06:32 a.m. 3/03/2010, you wrote: >thi

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-02 Thread shaun everiss
r nice new technologies they don't >>officially support. >> >> >> >>-Original Message- >>From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of >>Doug Langley >>Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 10:12 >>To: talk2 >

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-02 Thread shaun everiss
d wow, DJ Patty, haven't heard from you in *ages. I was wondering what >>>>>had happened to you. Good to see you're still around. >>>>> >>>>>Amanda >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>-Original

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-02 Thread Doug Langley
this is something I've been pondering for the last 2 weeks after a conversation with onj the Asterisk pbx uses a bounty system to get stuff done. So, basically you take donations for 3-9 months, then offer the money to developers to complete the project. and the project that I invision is an ope

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-02 Thread Onj
them. And wow, DJ Patty, haven't heard from you in *ages. I was wondering what had happened to you. Good to see you're still around. Amanda -----Original Message- From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Dj Paddy Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 17:35

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-02 Thread Stephen Clower
virtual machines and all these other nice new technologies they don't officially support. -Original Message- From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Doug Langley Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 10:12 To: talk2 Subject: Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-02 Thread Brandon Hicks
oting for them. And wow, DJ Patty, haven't heard from you in *ages. I was wondering what had happened to you. Good to see you're still around. Amanda -Original Message- From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Dj Paddy Sent: Monday, March

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-02 Thread Doug Langley
takes this as rooting for them. And wow, DJ Patty, haven't heard from you in *ages. I was wondering what had happened to you. Good to see you're still around. Amanda -Original Message- From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Dj Paddy Sent: Mo

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-02 Thread Brandon Hicks
Dj Paddy Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 17:35 To: talk2 Subject: RE: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest Guys just displaying understandable anger over loss of access. Barry -Original Message- From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Hicks S

RE: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-02 Thread Amanda Rush
louis.com] On Behalf Of Doug Langley Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 10:12 To: talk2 Subject: Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest Also, the WFA concept of free life time upgrades also put a nail in its coffin. Wheres the insentive for Vodaphone to develop a program which wont bring them

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-02 Thread Doug Langley
Original Message- From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Dj Paddy Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 17:35 To: talk2 Subject: RE: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest Guys just displaying understandable anger over loss of access. Barry -Original Message- From:

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-02 Thread Doug Langley
i...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Dj Paddy Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 17:35 To: talk2 Subject: RE: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest Guys just displaying understandable anger over loss of access. Barry -Original Message- From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.

RE: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-02 Thread Amanda Rush
d from you in *ages. I was wondering what had happened to you. Good to see you're still around. Amanda -Original Message- From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Dj Paddy Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 17:35 To: talk2 Subject: RE: The Talk2 List F

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-01 Thread shaun everiss
I must reluctantly aggree with simbian on that one. yeah its simple and works but it does look like a dos program from 1996. At any rate this wayfinder thing is supposed to go either nokia or vodaphone internal so we have gps subsystems that come with the phone. now as long as they use the same th

RE: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-01 Thread Dj Paddy
Guys just displaying understandable anger over loss of access. Barry -Original Message- From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Hicks Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 8:45 PM To: talk2 Subject: Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest Agreed

RE: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-01 Thread Dj Paddy
Exactly, the guys just being passionate to orgs who claim to fight on our behalf, Barry. -Original Message- From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Onj Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 8:40 PM To: talk2 Subject: Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-01 Thread Doug Langley
and, symbian is changing the UI to a better GUI which is visually appealing and doesnt look like a dos app from 1996. Tthe problem with this new GUI is its very lacking in the accessibility department. and will probably take screen reader venders several years to redesign things to work with th

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-01 Thread Stephen Clower
It's open source, but to release it that way, Nokia had to remove a lot of closed-source components that are critical to the platform itself. If you compiled and installed what's on the internet right now, you'd end up with a brick. Steve On 3/1/2010 5:11 PM, shaun everiss wrote: hmph. thoug

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-01 Thread shaun everiss
hmph. thought symbian was opensource. oh well what exactly will we all use after all that goes away. not that I care much there will probably be for the forseeable future old phones mine still works. I suppose we will have to use all the broken windows and simlinux systems then. android looks pro

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-01 Thread Stephen Clower
Given what's out there right now, it can't be done. Platforms are very, very different, and a lot of what products like Orca or NVDA need to operate aren't present on handsets. Android is based on Linux, by the way. A screen reader is in the works, and while it's not very useful now, it may be

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-01 Thread shaun everiss
hmph. well I myself think simbian rocks. win mobile, well from what I hear it crashes like no one's business. On that note wander why no one has designed something around a linux distro, ubuntu, maybe nvda and something else. could probably work to. and you could run linux apps on your mobile. At

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-01 Thread Stephen Clower
I suspect everyone on that list has already signed. He needs to get the word out through additional channels without trying to guilt trip the reader into signing it. Frankly though, I don't think there will be much luck. A telecomm company that has hundreds of thousands of customers doesn't car

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-01 Thread Brandon Hicks
Agreed. This message speaks of childish tantrums. Even the Freedom Scientific petition didn't get much over a thousand signatures, if even that. This one's not going to get much more. I thought about it until I got to about the third line of the message. Brandon Stephen Clower wrote: So... he

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-01 Thread Onj
you're not head of a large blindy organisation, though. And though I agree with your standpoint, to a point, if I ask you, will you sign instead? I'm asking as someone who, unless Loadstone really decides to do something useful, will have no GPS undder his platform. You have Mobile Geo and yo

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-01 Thread Daniel R
Agreed Steve. Maybe if he was nicer, and asked kindly, i would have considered it. Luckily you posted, because right to the delete button I was going. On 3/1/10, Stephen Clower wrote: > So... he wants more signatures, but the only way he feels he can get > them is to insult everybody? I won't si

Re: The Talk2 List Fw: [access] WFA User Protest

2010-03-01 Thread Stephen Clower
So... he wants more signatures, but the only way he feels he can get them is to insult everybody? I won't sign now simply because of the author's attitude, despite his good intentions. Steve On 3/1/2010 2:12 PM, Onj wrote: I haven't seen a message on this list for months. Why not let the con