I have just worked out why TBv3 is crashing out so frequently.
I have recently set up a dual monitor system. When TB window(s) are
moved to the secondary monitor then the problems occur:
a) When changing the width of headers by click and drag, the header
instantly shrinks to zero width.
This
Correction: The Bat v3 crashin g out on primary monitor as well (in
dualk monitor system) with the following:
Access violation ntdll.dll
Anyone any ideas why that might be? and what ntdll.dll is?
--
Marten Gallagher
Annery Kiln Web Design
www.annerykiln.co.uk
Using The Bat! 3.0
on Windows XP
Hallo admin,
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:25:51 +0100GMT (23-9-2004, 12:25 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:
A Anyone else using dual monitors are you getting similar probs?
As it happens I'm running TB on my primary monitor, but I recall a
thread where using TB with multiple monitors was discussed.
I found this bug report:
Sometimes opening a
terminal Server client window crashes
the bat with an error in ntdll.dll
Could someone tell me what type of software would be a terminal Server
Client so that I can try some experiments?
--
Marten Gallagher
Annery Kiln Web Design
Hallo admin,
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:25:51 +0100GMT (23-9-2004, 12:25 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:
A Anyone else using dual monitors are you getting similar probs?
As it happens I'm running TB on my primary monitor, but I recall a
thread where using TB with multiple monitors was
ON Thursday, September 23, 2004, 1:56:47 PM, you wrote:
aacu I found this bug report:
aacu Sometimes opening a
aacu terminal Server client window crashes
aacu the bat with an error in ntdll.dll
aacu Could someone tell me what type of software would be a terminal Server
aacu Client so that I can
Hi,
Thursday, September 23, 2004, 12:25:51 PM, you wrote:
aacu b) Unspecified instability causing TB to quit and close down without
aacu warning with a 'MS error 'Send Now' message thing.
aacu This seems, so far, not to happen when TB is displayed on the primary
aacu monitor.
aacu Anyone else
Hello P.Johnson,
Wednesday, September 22, 2004, 11:27:22 PM, you wrote:
PJ Hello Stuart,
PJ On Wednesday, September 22, 2004, 11:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SC Wednesday, September 22, 2004, 10:41:36 AM, you wrote:
PJ How do I create a filter that sends messages to a common folder
PJ Unread?
Hello Mean,
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 00:45:09 +0530 GMT (23/09/2004, 02:15 +0700 GMT),
Mean Drake wrote:
MD Selective download filter.
MD Condition: Message size greater than 800KB
MD Action Kill.
I have one of those, with a limit of 50KB. Works fine.
MD Still doesn't work. I am an a mailing list
Hello Deborah,
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 19:56:28 -0400 GMT (23/09/2004, 06:56 +0700 GMT),
Deborah Shaw wrote:
DS Thomas Fernandez Referring to Deborah's other question: No, it is
DS not possible to pause the despatcher.
DS +
DS Am I the only one who'd find this useful?
No, I'd like it too. If
Hello Mary,
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 21:24:54 -0500 GMT (23/09/2004, 09:24 +0700 GMT),
Mary Bull wrote:
MB Even I had a problem to solve, with only two accounts. If I set one to
MB automatically periodically check mail at short intervals--say, like 8
MB minutes--and by coincidence I happen to
On 22-9 at 15:30 Mica wrote:
Hello
Well, it's enough to know that Linux is made by a scientist, for
scientists, and Windows is made... well, also by a scientist (-;, but -
for the *masses*, in order to get a raw picture of differences we are
facing.
Windows is possible to be driven by an
This appears to be a problem that existed in the early Betas, but I'm
having it now with v.3.0 -- TB! will not close.
After perusing the archives I see notes on setting IMAP servers to
disconnect (-done), issuing a command-line /EXIT (-done), and on
looking for a .IPC file (don't seem to have one
Hello Thomas!
On Thursday, September 23, 2004, 8:22 AM, you wrote:
MB Even I had a problem to solve, with only two accounts. If I set
MB one to automatically periodically check mail at short
MB intervals--say, like 8 minutes--and by coincidence I happen to
MB manually check mail on the other
Hello Simon,
Thursday, September 23, 2004, 2:43:27 PM, you wrote:
SM you can get a Linux disto called Knoppix, which boots off a CD-ROM
SM and right into a GUI without touching the hard drive - you can't
SM do that with Windows!
If we're not too far OT yet:
I think that every PC user should
Hello Simon!
On Thursday, September 23, 2004, 8:43 AM, you wrote:
MM Hence, Linux, simply, is NOT easy, and will never be. (-:
SM It IS easy, if you spend as much time learning it as you have
SM spend on Windows.
I believe you are right. I was bewildered for months and years when I
went from
Thursday, September 23, 2004, 6:43:27 AM, you wrote:
SM but that is the past, and Linux is just as user
SM friendly as Windows - it's just not a Windows clone,
SM but a different operating system where you have a free
SM choice - just like when you want to buy a car.
I've found this to be true
***^\ ._)~~
~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Tue, 21 Sep 2004,
@ @ at 18:23:11 -0400, when rich gregory wrote:
MM 05x1ca9PMAMCEkaban1ca [again a magic number, 22]
MM This eMale thinger gotta spillclicker with all sortsa kewl scwiggly red
MM lans undur everthung just to
***^\ ._)~~
~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 23 Sep 2004,
@ @ at 01:38:52 +0700, when Thomas Fernandez wrote:
I'm relieved. :-)
(-:
MM But the model is relevant. Let's
MM take this sentence:
MM Yew pookin' fun at ma littercrasy (c)
[...]
MM [EMAIL PROTECTED] [you
Mary Bull wrote:
I've been talking for months on tbot about learning Linux.
Circumstances just haven't been right. I have no doubt that I can
learn to use it, though, and I'm certainly not a scientist! :)
You might want to check out Knoppix and see how you like it. Its a
full-fledge Linux
aacu I have just worked out why TBv3 is crashing out so frequently.
aacu I have recently set up a dual monitor system. When TB window(s) are
aacu moved to the secondary monitor then the problems occur:
aacu a) When changing the width of headers by click and drag, the header
aacu instantly shrinks
Marten-
I see you're running XP, so you've already got this installed. The
older rdp client, simply called Terminal Server Client (oh, those
clever Microsoft names) didn't have some of the features of the newer
version. Some programs work with rdp, some don't. I can say, though,
that I've never
Hi Roelof,
Monday, September 20, 2004, 11:20:25 PM, you wrote:
Roelof -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Roelof Hash: SHA1
Roelof Hallo Doug,
Roelof On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:38:49 +0100GMT (20-9-2004, 20:38 +0200, where I
Roelof live), you wrote:
DW This filter stops after it flags, etc. It
Hello DZ-Jay!
On Thursday, September 23, 2004, 10:37 AM, you wrote:
MB I've been talking for months on tbot about learning Linux.
MB Circumstances just haven't been right. I have no doubt that I can
MB learn to use it, though, and I'm certainly not a scientist! :)
DJ You might want to check out
On Thu 23-Sep-04 12:13pm -0400, Doug Weller wrote:
What I hadn't noticed is that at some point I'd parked the messages, and
the filters evidently won't move parked messages. I guess that makes
sense. I'll have to wait until a post comes in from her to see what
happens.
As I had mentioned
Mary Bull wrote:
Hello DZ-Jay!
Worked my way to a U.S. place to purchase the CD, Free Software CDR,
and ordered it. Everything confirmed. Should be here in 3-5 business
days. Since I ordered it in a jewel case, total cost to me, shipping
included, $10.99.
I really wanted to have it on the CD
Hello DZ-Jay!
On Thursday, September 23, 2004, 12:38 PM, you wrote:
DJ ... just so you know, and for anybody else following this
DJ (admittedly offtopic) thread, the download is free, but then
DJ you'll need to burn it into a CD yourself, as its an ISO image.
DJ The price they charge is just for
Mary Bull wrote:
I'll report back in when I have the Knoppix CD in hand. I'm really
excited about this! :surprise: :)
Keep in mind, as with any other piece of software, that your mileage may
vary. Although I haven't had any problems with Knoppix in any of the
computers I have installed it (all
Thursday, September 23, 2004, 6:35:01 PM, you wrote:
Hello Mean,
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 00:45:09 +0530 GMT (23/09/2004, 02:15 +0700 GMT),
Mean Drake wrote:
MD Selective download filter.
MD Condition: Message size greater than 800KB
MD Action Kill.
I have one of those, with a limit of 50KB.
Hi,
Thursday, September 23, 2004, 12:25:51 PM, you wrote:
aacu b) Unspecified instability causing TB to quit and close down without
aacu warning with a 'MS error 'Send Now' message thing.
aacu This seems, so far, not to happen when TB is displayed on the primary
aacu monitor.
aacu Anyone
Hello admin,
Thursday, September 23, 2004, 12:25:51 PM, you wrote:
I have just worked out why TBv3 is crashing out so frequently.
I have recently set up a dual monitor system. When TB window(s) are
moved to the secondary monitor then the problems occur:
a) When changing the width of
Hallo DZ-Jay,
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 14:11:01 -0400GMT (23-9-2004, 20:11 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:
DJ dZ.
DJ
DJ Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
DJ http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
moderator
Hi Mary,
on Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:18:22 -0500GMT, you wrote:
DJ http://www.knoppix.org/
MB Worked my way to a U.S. place to purchase the CD, Free Software CDR,
MB and ordered it. Everything confirmed. Should be here in 3-5 business
MB days. Since I ordered it in a jewel case, total cost to me,
Hello DZ-Jay!
On Thursday, September 23, 2004, 1:11 PM, you wrote:
MB I'll report back in when I have the Knoppix CD in hand. ...
DJ Keep in mind, as with any other piece of software, that your
DJ mileage may vary. Although I haven't had any problems with Knoppix
DJ in any of the computers I
Hello Peter!
On Thursday, September 23, 2004, 1:47 PM, you wrote:
MB I really wanted to have it on the CD rather than a download, so
MB that's why I spent the money. :)
PM This is a good way to go. I can't afford much extra money, and i
PM also like it fast, so I downloaded Knoppix and burned
Peter Meyns wrote:
This is a good way to go. I can't afford much extra money, and i also
like it fast, so I downloaded Knoppix and burned the CD myself. It is
really amazing, but I didn't yet succeed in starting The Bat! from the
implemented Wine...
I've never tried this myself, but I know some
Hello Simon,
Thursday, September 23, 2004, 9:43:27 AM, you wrote:
SM This is a very popular misunderstanding, made by people who have used
SM Windows for a long time. Think about this: You have spend 5 or 10
SM years beeing a Windows expert, and knows how to do everything. Then
SM you try
I just received this message from my provider:
To use EarthLink's Authenticated SMTP (ASMTP) server to send email
from your EarthLink email address, you need to make a one-time change
to the settings in your email program. Your settings should be changed
to:
Server address:
Hello Mary,
Thursday, September 23, 2004, 1:44:22 PM, you wrote:
MB I'll report back in when I have the Knoppix CD in hand. I'm really
MB excited about this! :surprise: :)
I'm downloading it now:
ftp://ftp.cise.ufl.edu/pub/mirrors/knoppix/KNOPPIX_V3.6-2004-08-16-EN.iso
--
Best regards,
Hello Jack,
Thursday, September 23, 2004, 12:20:43 PM, you wrote:
J Does The Bat! support Earthlink's Authenticated SMTP, whatever
J that is?
Just based on what you listed in the e-mail it looks like they're only
requesting that you authenticate with your POP settings to your SMTP
server.
Check
Hallo Jack,
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 13:20:43 -0500GMT (23-9-2004, 20:20 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:
JM Server address: smtpauth.earthlink.net
JM Account ID or Username: your EarthLink email address
JM Password: your EarthLink password
JM Is there any reason why The Bat! can't handle this?
No,
***^\ ._)~~
~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 23 Sep 2004,
@ @ at 10:00:30 -0500, when Mary Bull wrote to Simon:
I've been talking for months on tbot about learning Linux.
Circumstances just haven't been right. I have no doubt that I can
learn to use it, though, and
Hello Mica!
On Thursday, September 23, 2004, 2:31 PM, you wrote:
MM Knoppix has installed copy of Wine too, so you could also try to
MM compel TB to work in this environment.
But, I may need Crossover-Office. Also. Hmm.
MM And although Knoppix has pretty good and extensive documentation, I
I am trying to relieve the load on The Bat so I can use it on my
laptop.
I am setting up Thunderbird to handle the petty personal accounts and
leaving The Bat to handle the complex filtering etc.
Problem is I don't see how to export in the right format for TBird to
import.
Goes for emails as
Hello Paul,
Thursday, September 23, 2004, 3:17:25 PM, you wrote:
PC Hello Mary,
PC Thursday, September 23, 2004, 1:44:22 PM, you wrote:
MB I'll report back in when I have the Knoppix CD in hand. I'm really
MB excited about this! :surprise: :)
PC I'm downloading it now:
PC
Hallo Jack,
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 16:06:33 -0500GMT (23-9-2004, 23:06 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:
Just another clueless ISP
JM Well, the guy that was trying to help me via chat was certainly pretty clueless,
JM and all he did was basically keep repeating that we don't support The Bat!, over
On Friday, 24 September 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
aacu Problem is I don't see how to export in the right format for
TBird to aacu import.
Thunderbird uses Unix mailbox format. What I did was export from TB!
as a Unix mailbox directly into the appropriate account folder in the
TBird profiles
Hi Tbudler,
I'm currently testing the Kaspersky Antivirus personal 5.0.
I tried to set up the Kav plug-in from within the Bat! 3, but it does
not find it.
Does someone know where I can download this plug-in ? IS it
provided with the personal version usually ? Or do we only have it
Hi List,
IF someone work with the Time Chaos PIM software in
conjunction with The Bat! could it be possible to tell me if
we can synchronize the the bat! address book and the Time and Chaos
contact list ? And if yes, how ?
--
Greetings,
Claude Renaud
Post-Joint : none.
This is driving me insane. Since upgrading to v3 of TB, it's closing
randomly and frequently without notice, even when I'm working with it.
Other times it'll be minimised and not even working - suddenly I'll
notice the mail ticker is gone, and sure enough TB has completely
unloaded itself. There's
Hello Monty!
On Thursday, September 23, 2004, 4:45 PM, you wrote:
M ... Since upgrading to v3 of TB, it's closing randomly and
M frequently without notice, even when I'm working with it. Other
M times it'll be minimised and not even working - suddenly I'll
M notice the mail ticker is gone, and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said the following on 04-09-23 16:21:
I am trying to relieve the load on The Bat so I can use it on my
laptop.
I am setting up Thunderbird to handle the petty personal accounts and
leaving The Bat to handle the complex filtering etc.
Problem is I don't see how to export in the
PC gee, it downloaded already:) all 733,499,392 bytes!!
Well this thread sparked my interest in Linux so a 45min download for
me and have now burnt to disk. I'll let you know how i get on
--
Best regards, Barry
Current version is 3.00.00
Hey, Jack,
Thursday, September 23, 2004, 2:20:43 PM, you wrote
+++
I just received this message from my provider:
To use EarthLink's Authenticated SMTP (ASMTP) server to send email
from your EarthLink email address, you need to make a one-time
change to the settings in your email
Hi Tbudler,
I know that it is a bit off-topic but I really would like to
know how to setup a Google Mail account in the Bat!
So if someone has already done this, could it give me
the way to accomplish this ?
--
Greetings,
On Friday, 24 September 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
aacu Problem is I don't see how to export in the right format for
TBird to aacu import.
Thunderbird uses Unix mailbox format. What I did was export from TB!
as a Unix mailbox directly into the appropriate account folder in the
TBird
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said the following on 04-09-23 16:21:
No problem.
Easy for you to say :-))
For email you can transfer as mailboxes Go to TOOLS |EXPORT
messages | Unix. Save and import to TB.
HBut import in TBird only allows import of local mail from
Communicator, Eudora, Outlook or
Jack, I posted the solution a three hours ago, but I haven't seen it
on the list yet. Your ASMTP thread is a duplicate of my thread, Help!
Connection Centre--can't send or receive mail. I also sent you that
thread, privately, but apparently no one got it. Here's a short
version of what I sent
Hello Monty!
On Thursday, September 23, 2004, 4:45 PM, you wrote:
M ... Since upgrading to v3 of TB, it's closing randomly and
M frequently without notice, even when I'm working with it. Other
M times it'll be minimised and not even working - suddenly I'll
M notice the mail ticker is gone, and
Hello Marten!
On Thursday, September 23, 2004, 5:42 PM, you wrote:
MB Would you consider upgrading to a beta post-release version?
aacu Absolutely blooming not. Only to find that I'll have to lose
aacu more earning time sorting out other bugs. As it is I'm doing a
aacu full back up every hour -
On Friday, 24 September 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In this directory there are a files with no extension and others
with the same name with a .msf extension.
The mailbase is in the files with no extension. I think the msf files
are TBird's indexes. I can't remember if I deleted them or
Firsly thanks to Mary for the reply. I've started using the latest
Beta and after reading the list a bit more I've removed the BayesIT
plugin (I have SpamAssassin running remotely anyway).
I will see how this goes, it already loads up much faster.
Marten - I'm also glad to see I'm not alone on
Hello, everyone.
I am evaluating The Bat! 3.0 as a more powerful, more secure
replacement for Outlook XP/2002 (under Windows XP Professional,
SP 1).
Because I send e-mail messages containing Russian/Cyrillic text,
any e-mail client upon which I decide must support Cyrillic text.
Although I realize
Hallo Jack,
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 16:01:10 -0500GMT (23-9-2004, 23:01 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:
JM Received: from sdn-ap-007neomahp0326.dialsprint.net ([63.189.1.72]
JM helo=localhost)
JM by snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1)
JM So, I still don't know
Hallo Monty,
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 23:56:49 +0100GMT (24-9-2004, 0:56 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:
M Firsly thanks to Mary for the reply. I've started using the latest
moderator
Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not
just to the person being replied to, even if
Lynn @ 2004-Sep-23 11:27:08 AM
Linux, as a possible TB 'environment' and 'in general' (was: Re: bayesit063.rar
bayesit064.rar bayesit065.rar ?) mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
There are a lot of nice features which I doubt will ever show up in
WinDoze. Multiple desktops being one of the biggies ..
At 18:34 [GMT-0500] on Thursday September 23 (actual time - 7:34am on Friday
in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote:
[snips]
JM So, I still don't know what to do, but I'm thinking of grabbing a
JM rifle and climbing a tower...
I guess it's the country you live in.
Jack Hopefully that wasn't
Hello experts,
I am trying The Bat! Home Edition 3.0. Now I found a
problem. Some
e-mails are in Chinese.
In earlier versions, the subject line could show
Chinese characters in
viewer window as well as in message list window
although in RFC-822
headers such characters as =?gb2312?B?x+8gwOs=?=
Hello Chris,
Thursday, September 23, 2004, 7:21:28 PM, you wrote:
C Download the Virtual Desktop Manager Windows XP Power Toy from
C http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx
C and you can have multiple desktops.
litestep, a desktop windows explorer shell
Hello Claude,
Thursday, September 23, 2004, 6:30:48 PM, you wrote:
CR I know that it is a bit off-topic but I really would like to
CR know how to setup a Google Mail account in the Bat!
CR So if someone has already done this, could it give me
CR
Some time around 09/23/2004 14:58:50, I think I heard Mary Bull say:
My single state, compared to your time of life! g
Anne M. reports using Cross-over with Xandros. But of course, not
through Knoppix. I'll wait to write more until I know a little more
about what I'm talking about! :crazy:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Hi Claude,
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 00:30:48 +0200 (6:30 PM here), Claude Renaud [CR]
wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
CR I know that it is a bit off-topic but I really would like to know
CR how to setup a Google Mail account in the Bat! So if someone has
Hello Barry,
PC gee, it downloaded already:) all 733,499,392 bytes!!
BJ Well this thread sparked my interest in Linux so a 45min download for
BJ me and have now burnt to disk. I'll let you know how i get on
well, this is about running TB on Linux, but we should probably continue
this thread
Paul Cartwright I had an earthlink account a while back, and TB
worked for me, no problem.
+
Right. It worked perfectly until Earthlink changed their mail settings
on 1 September. The problem is that since they don't support TB and
since the logical substitutions of new settings for old
Thursday, September 23, 2004, 2:11:58 PM, Deborah wrote:
+
Right. It worked perfectly until Earthlink changed their mail settings
on 1 September.
The problem is they don't support anything anymore. They've
outsourced tech support to idiots.
snip
After experimenting with the mail
Hello Terry,
I see this behavior regularly - 5 to 6 times a day. In my case the CC
is active and TB seems to hang on a particular account. There seems
be a pattern with multiple accounts in a single domain.
I also saw this in early versions of TB 2.x but it was corrected.
I am now back to
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