Addressbook
Hello TBBETA, I have been playing with the new addressbook following some struggles with it last week when I was trying to do a mass mailing using a template (for which I ended up having to revert to the old addressbook). The new addressbook does not have a menu from which things like Mass Mailings can be selected. From playing around, I found that the Actions button that appears if you select one or more contacts enables you to select Mass Mailing. However: - There does not appear to be a way to select all contacts in a particular addressbook. If you select an addressbook or sub-addressbook in the left hand list, the contacts appear on the right, but there is not a Select All option - each one has to be selected individually or you have to click on the first scroll to the end of the list and shift-click to select all. - The search box at the top of the list searches all addressbooks, not the one selected. - If you select a contact from addressbook, the contact details appear on the right and that addressbook's contacts appear on the left, but you cannot then go back. If you want to go back to the list of all addressbooks on the left and individual addressbook contacts on the right, you need to click the hamburger menu on the left and then select the individual addressbook again. A back button to take you back to the list again would be much easier. Overall, I think I will stick to the old addressbook for the time being. I can see the new one has potential, but it is not as functional as the old one at the moment. Finally, I did notice that the menu on the old addressbook was detached from the actual addressbook in my two-monitor setup. The addressbook window appears in the middle of screen 2, but the menu (File|Edit|View) is stuck in the top left corner of screen 2 and does not move if I drag the window to screen 1. -- Julian Using The Bat! v10.2.1 on Windows 10.0 Build 19043 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: License Agreement
Hello RS (FEDARA), On Friday, April 27, 2012, 12:38:16 PM, RS (FEDARA) wrote: It's my understanding of the Agreement that you can install it on any machine as long as you don't use both of them at the same time (ex: desktop as a main and notebook when you travel). When moving data I do export TBK from one machine and import it to a newly installed version on the other machine. Takes me an hour to move it from one machine to another but is easier than looking for messages that were already filtered out to relevant folders. Thanks, RS. I thought that was the case, but I could not remember. I used to do the same as you to move data between desktop and laptop, but have been using IMAP for 5 years now. -- Julian Using The Bat! v5.1.2 on Windows 7 6.1 Build 7600 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
The Bat! v5 Upgrade Experience
Hello TBUDL, I have been using TB! for many years (12+), but have been holding off upgrading to Version 5 because of the various problems that I have seen reported here and on TBBETA, particularly with IMAP. I have 9 IMAP accounts, including a GMail account, so I was worried about how well v5 would work. I thought that those of you who have similar concerns about v5 might be interested in the results. With the latest new version notification (5.0.30) I decided to take the plunge. I have been very pleased with the results. Everything continued to work as it should and the differences that I have found so far have been positive rather than negative. In fact, there are few obvious differences in my normal use of the software - it looks and operates almost exactly the same way. So, if you are holding off on an upgrade because you are afraid that TB! v5 will not be as good as your current version, my experience is that the upgrade is painless. If you are expecting a new look and feel to the software, then v5 is probably not for you, however! Julian -- Best regards, Julian mailto:jb_lists...@trink.co.uk Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Recipients' Addresses Suppression
On Thursday, June 11, 2009, 7:47:28 AM, Chew Yoke Lim wrote: If I have to send e-mail to the same group of people, such as members of a society of which I am a member, very often, is there a way of NOT having to insert their addresses each time I send them an e-mail, but pick up all the addresses from a distribution list I only have to create once? I think that you are looking at the Group feature in the addressbook. You will see in the addressbook dialog for individuals there is an entry for Group, so you could define a group of society members and then use the mass mailing features to send messages to all members in that Group. There is more information in the help files which is worth reading carefully as there are some choices about how groups interact with the main addressbook. Julian -- Julian Beach jul...@trink.co.uk jbli...@dial.pipex.com (List Traffic) Current version is 4.2.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
NOD Antivirus Database 3119 (20080522) Identifying TheBat as a virus
Hello TB! Users, Maybe just me (running TB on Vista), but since the update to the NOD virus signature database a short while ago, TheBat is being flagged by NOD as a virus when it accesses rundll32.exe as Probably a variant of Unknown virus. I have reported to NOD. Anyone else getting this? -- Julian Using The Bat! v4.0.24 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: NOD Antivirus Database 3119 (20080522) Identifying TheBat as a virus
On Thursday, May 22, 2008, 11:41:05 AM, A.Translator wrote: I am using NOD32 on Vista and just sent myself a message using TB! NOD didn't react, so perhaps it has been corrected. I do not have TheBat! as user-agent in my headings. Not here. It is now at Version 3120 but I have had to disable NOD to allow me to do any work. The NOD forum has lots of messages about the issue, which not only affect TB, some games, but also Adobe Acrobat and the Abobe CS3 applications. Sadly there is no response from NOD on the forums to any of the message, which hopefully means they are working hard on a solution. Julian -- Using The Bat! v4.0.24 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: NOD Antivirus Database 3119 (20080522) Identifying TheBat as a virus
On Thursday, May 22, 2008, 12:48:40 PM, A.Translator wrote: There is now. They are working on it. I also have a CS3 suite which works fine, so not all NOD users are affected. It is linked to ThreatSense, so if that is disabled then you will not experience problems. Database version 3121 is just out and solves the problems, as far as I can tell. Julian -- Using The Bat! v4.0.24 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Signatures in plain-text viewer.
On Thursday, January 10, 2008, 5:31:44 PM, Nick Dutton wrote: Am I going mad, or did TB! used to give me the option to specify the text style for signature text? It does for sure in the html viewer. Not in the plain text viewer. If you de-select Use Plain Text View in the right click menu of the Message Viewer then the signature text will be whatever is specified in Options|Preferences|Viewer/Editor|HTML/Windows Editor. I use the plain text editor, but view in Windows mode to get the text styles. Julian -- Using The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Synchronise function
On Monday, December 10, 2007, 5:40:12 PM, Chris Wilson wrote: I need to synchronise my notebook PC, which currently has a fresh Windows install but has not yet had TB! loaded, and my desktop PC which has had TB! on for years. I have read the Help file, but am still confused, sorry. Can someone run through what I need to do, over a hard wired LAN, to get a mirror copy of TB! on the notebook, and then sync the 2 daily, again over the LAN, and with it being possible either the notebook OR the PC has the more up to date e-mail and stuff within TB! at the time of synchronising? Thanks. I am using 3.99.29 under Windows 2000 I use the synchronize function between my PC and Laptop to bring my laptop up to date before I travel. For the initial install, I would do a backup on the PC and a restore onto the Laptop. You may then need to change the Account settings if you are using a different server when you are travelling. I generally only do one-way synchronisation copying new mail from my PC to my laptop. I have the PC set to delete mail on the server after 3 days, and the laptop to leave mail on the server and not delete. The means that mail that I have received when away is downloaded onto me PC. The synchronisation is fairly crude, so I prefer to avoid transferring back from my laptop to my PC. This does mean that I have sent mail on my laptop that is not on the PC, but I used MailBag Assistant to make periodic archives of both mailbases to these messages are available. The synchronisation process is crude. Specifically, it does not delete mail, so if you clear lots of mail on the PC and then synchronize it with the laptop, the corresponding mail will not be deleted. Worse, when you synchronize back to the PC, all the deleted mail will reappear on the PC. That is why I don't do it! Finally, some terminology. The first part of the synchronisation (1) is done on the machine where you want to copy mail to (the laptop). The second stage (2) is done on the PC, and the third (3) on the laptop. Allow plenty of time! I save all the synchronization files on a shared folder on my PC which my laptop has access to, and do it across the network. If you have a large capacity USB memory stick then you could use that. Hope this helps. Personally, if I were doing the synchronisation as frequently as you are planning to, I would consider other options, such as IMAP. Others will be able to help here. Julian -- Using The Bat! v3.99.29 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange Email Problems 3.99.24
On Tuesday, October 30, 2007, 9:08:45 AM, Roelof Otten wrote: No clue, but what happens when you upload a 4 MB file to something else than a mail server? Thanks for the response. I have done some more testing this morning is discovered: 1. I can upload the same file using FTP without problems 2. I can send the same message using Outlook Now going to see if the problem is caused by a combination of TB! and my router config. I sent the message successfully yesterday from the office using TB. Julian -- Using The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Strange Email Problems 3.99.24
On Wednesday, October 31, 2007, 9:47:48 AM, Julian Beach (Lists) wrote: Now going to see if the problem is caused by a combination of TB! and my router config. I sent the message successfully yesterday from the office using TB. I have tested this. It appears to be a problem with The Bat! and my Router (a D-Link DIR-655). I can send messages without problems using my DSL modem plugged directly into my laptop. It is only when the modem is connected to the router that I have problems. It is totally strange! The next test is to roll back a version or 2 of TB and see whether it is a recent problem. Julian -- Using The Bat! v3.99.24 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Strange Email Problems 3.99.24
Hello TB! Users, I am not sure that this problem is TB! related, but since it appeared since I upgraded to 3.99.24 a few weeks ago, I thought I would ask here. My DSL connection goes down when I send emails with attachments. It appears to be size related - if the message is more than around 3.9Mb then the my DSL connection is lost at that point. The send fails, and I have to wait for my router/DSL model to re-establish a connection. I am stumped by this. My ISP does not appear to have any limits in place that would cause my connection to be cut off, but my router does not tell me much other than a log entry to say that the WAN Interface is down. I have tried my ISP's email servers and my backup email servers via SMPTAUTH with the same effect. Any clues anyone? Julian -- Julian Using The Bat! v3.99.24 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronization in TB! 3.99.3 - Slow
On Wednesday, May 16, 2007, 10:44:57 PM, Andrew Diederich wrote: Hmm, maybe you actually figured out how it worked. 'Way back in 3.80.06 I tried syncing my TB! and Voyager clients using Tools Synchronize... but it only nuked things in strange and interesting ways. It is a bit challenging, as synchronisation does not mean the same in TB! as it does in, say, Laplink, where there is a transfer of files both ways. Basically, TB! copies messages that are not one the target machine (the one where you run Step A) from the source machine (the one at Step B). It is a one-way process and it only adds messages and does not delete them. The messages have to be in the same location, so you can end up with duplicates if your messages are moved by a filter on one machine and not on the other. My synch plan is as follows - an example probably helps!: 1 I want to bring my laptop up to date with messages that I have received on my PC since I last used it. I therefore start running the synch process on my laptop with Step 1 - the file is copied to a shared folder on my PC, across the network, although it would also work saving it to a usb memory stick. 2 Step 2 is run on my PC - this takes the file created in step 1 and identifies all the messages that are on the PC but not on the laptop, and copies them to the next Synch file. 3 The final step, Step 3, is run on the laptop. This copies all the messages not on the laptop (in the same account/folder) into the locations they are on the PC. That is it - all the messages on my PC are now on my laptop. There are a couple of things to note: - It is assumed that the account and folder structures are the same, and that the same filters are operating on both machines. I used to wipe my laptop message base every few months and then restore it from the PC to ensure that the folders and filters are the same, but I don't bother now. If the structures are different, you will end up with a mess! - The process is one way - Messages not in the machine on which you run step 1 are copied from the machine in Step 2. If you want to do a two-way synch you have to run Synch again, starting with the other machine at Step 1. - The process does not delete messages. If I were to spend a lot of time cleaning the message base on my laptop, and then run a synch with my laptop at Step 1, it will copy all the messages back again. the process only looks for missing messages and copies them. - It does not appear to work with filters and account settings, despite what it says. It does work with the address book however. You have to copy filters manually, or recreate them manually. I don't synch in the other direction (from Laptop to PC), as all the messages are held on the server and I download them when I am next at my PC. I hope that this helps Julian -- Using The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronization in TB! 3.99.3 - Slow
On Tuesday, May 15, 2007, 11:33:54 PM, Andrew Diederich wrote: How are you syncing between those two? For voyager I make a file backup to whatever my local computer is, in case I lose the usb drive. TB! support told be Tools Synchronize... was really for something else, and was going to be dropped. I hope it is not going to be dropped - I use it all the time! I use two computers, and I use Synchronize to ensure that the messagebase on my laptop matches the messagebase on my PC. It is usually just a one-way transfer across my network, from PC to Laptop - I use a shared folder on my PC to hold the synch files. Julian -- Using The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Synchronization in TB! 3.99.3 - Slow
Hello TB! Users, I have just installed 3.99.3 and am doing my first synchonize between my PC and Laptop with this version. It is really slow, and eats resources. Has anyone else experienced this? Previous versions have been getting faster, so this appears to be a step backwards. -- Julian Using The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments
On Wednesday, April 18, 2007, 1:00:57 PM, Henri Maussang wrote: The progress bar is complete (green) in few seconds, but the connection Center stays on. This probably means that the sending process is not completing. There are no specific size limits in TheBat!, but your ISP may apply limits to either email message sizes or attachment types. Can you send via a different ISP or via Webmail? I sometimes have this problem, but have not found a particular cause. Try opening the message again and then putting it back into the Outbox before sending. Also have a look at the log (Account|View Log or ctrl+shift+A) to see if there is an explanation. Is the email address valid? Have you sent other messages successfully to that address? Julian -- Using The Bat! v3.98.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem Getting File Associations to Stick
On Thursday, March 22, 2007, 11:55:09 AM, Bob Morris wrote: I think that you may have fixed my problem. Internet Explorer (which I rarely use) had Outlook set as the default e-mail program and contact list, even though I had the file associations set in Windows as belonging to The Bat! After resetting Internet Explorer to agree with the settings at My Computer/Tools/Folder Options/File Options my desired setting now appear to be sticking. I will keep fingers crossed - Mr Microsoft doesn't seem to want to let go of any rights without a big fight :-) . I use Outlook in the same way that you do. You will find that Outlook resets itself to be the default email programme on a regular basis - many Office updates via Microsoft Update reset the default email client, including updates of the Outlook Junk Mail list. There are instructions on stopping this happening at the following location http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=933450 but Brian Livingstone (http://windowssecrets.com/) suggests that it is easier to reset it manually. Julian -- Using The Bat! v3.98.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sorting of messages in threads
On Monday, October 2, 2006, 10:04:28 PM, Robin Anson wrote: What does ctrl-] actually do? I tried looking for the shortcut in the menus, but couldn't find it. Next unread message either in Thread, Account or another account in that order. You can view all your unread messages in turn by using Ctrl-] - it is my favourite TB! keyboard shortcut! Julian -- Using The Bat! v3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Marking Messages as SPAM in Macro
Hello TB! Users, I am using AntipamSniper to filter spam, which is fairly successful against the rising tide of vgr, pump dump and bank phishing spam messages. I report via Spamcop, so I have a common filter that forwards messages on to Spamcop. I wanted to automatically mark messages as Spam in the same filter to catch some of the ones not caught by AntispamSniper, but I cannot find a macro action for this. Any ideas? I was going to look at MyMacros, but I cannot find a working link to this. Does anyone have one? -- Julian Using The Bat! v3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [n]
On Wednesday, September 13, 2006, 11:17:16 PM, Paul Jansen wrote: How can I turn off the number in [] after the the Re when replying to messages. It seems to be messing up the threading for people not using The Bat and I would like to have the choice whether to use this facility or not. Go to Account Properties for the account(s) in question. Go down to Templates, then Reply (you may need to expand the Templates list to see this) and uncheck the checkbox second up from the bottom - Use reply numbering in subject line. Julian -- Using The Bat! v3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Ignoring URL's whilst Spellchecking
On Monday, March 20, 2006, 6:04:18 PM, Paul Meathrel wrote: One would hope so. Maybe someone else will have a bright idea! :) Is is linked to the viewer/editor you are using? I don't use the Plain Text Viewer when viewing messages, but I do use Plain Text (MicroEd) when I edit messages. Perhaps this is related in some way? My spellchecker does not check URLs. Julian -- Using The Bat! v3.65.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address AutoComplete Option Location
On Thursday, February 16, 2006, 4:29:48 PM, Roelof Otten wrote: Options - Preferences - Message header - [select your header] - Edit - 'Editing' tab Ahhh. I suppose it makes sense to put it here (its certainly more flexible), but the Help file still refers to its old location. Thanks for the pointer. Julian -- Using The Bat! v3.65.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Address AutoComplete Option Location
Hello TB! Users, Can anyone tell me where the Address AutoComplete option for the Message Window now hides. It used to appear under Options|Preferences|System, but it does not any longer. The latest version appears to have reset my original settings (Addressboook only) and I want to set it back. On the subject of this, the Autocomplete drop down list does not seem to work very intuitively. In most applications I can select the item I want by using the down arrow key to select the item I want and then use [TAB] to select it. In TB! this moves onto the next field (CC: in my case) without selecting the highlighted field. This has resulted in a few emails that have gone to the wrong person recently. Is just me, or do others feel that the process if selecting items does not follow Windows conventions? -- Julian Using The Bat! v3.65.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Synchronisation Problems
Hello TB! Users, I have been having problems with Synchronisation over the last couple of releases of TB! When I attempt stage 3 of the synchronization process, I get file errors Error Reading File - if I try several times, I will eventually get through the process, but I end up with many thousands of duplicates. In my latest attempt, one of my accounts went from 4,000 messages to 20,000 and I had to abandon the synchronisation attempt in the end. Is this just me? Being able to synchronize TB! between my desktop machine and my laptop has been very important to me, and has worked perfectly for several years. Something in the recent releases appears to have broken it. -- Julian Using The Bat! v3.65.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sending large attachments to Hotmail/Yahoo?
On Monday, October 17, 2005, 8:47:45 AM, Roelof Otten wrote: There's been a bug that split without caring about the setting of that option, I don't recall whether that was only in a beta, the way to go around that was to set the suggested size very high. It is in the release version I am using (3.51.10) - I recently had to resend a batch of 20 large emails because TB! split them all and they were rejected by the recipients' mail servers. I have now set the split size at 9000Kb. Julian -- Using The Bat! v3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: what's the cheapest way to get a TB license?
On Tuesday, August 23, 2005, 7:07:24 PM, Jurgen Haug wrote: My girlfriend used to use TB! here on my PC for her mails, but now she got herself a notebook and AFAIK she can't use my TB on that, right? She wants to switch to Opera M2 or Thunderbird and I want to keep or using TB. I thought that the TB licence allowed it to be installed on a laptop as well as a desktop machine as long as you were not using both at the same time. I cannot find the original license text to verify this, however. I need to installed the updated v3.51 on my wife's laptop (separate license) later, so I will see what the license agreement says. Julian -- Using The Bat! v3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Email Program Survey - TB! Missing
On Thursday, August 4, 2005, 3:14:41 PM, Julian Beach (Lists) wrote: The Email Essential's Newsletter is running a survey on the email software that people are using. TB! is missing from the list of options, although you can add it under Other (perhaps this will make it appear as an option if enough people name it). The votes are in. 7,147 votes were submitted in total, and the results, in summary, are: Outlook 2003 - 28% Outlook Express 6 - 15% Thunderbird - 13% The Bat! came in at 1% The votes may be more a reflection of the readership of Email Essentials - the use of Outlook 2003 (so the most recent version of Office) and the high percentage use of Thunderbird suggests that the 7,147 may not be a representative sample, although I could be wrong on that. You can read more about Email Essentials, and probably read the newsletter with the results (EE #3.14 - Reader poll results) on http://office-watch.com/email/index.asp Julian -- Julian Beach [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (List Traffic) Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Email Program Survey - TB! Missing
Hello TB! Users, The Email Essential's Newsletter is running a survey on the email software that people are using. TB! is missing from the list of options, although you can add it under Other (perhaps this will make it appear as an option if enough people name it). Details are copied below ,- [ Quote from Email Essentials Newsletter #3.13] | [...] Naturally there are many other choices like Eudora, Netscape | Messenger, Opera email, Pegasus and Incredimail (recently reviewed in | Email Essentials ). Theres others plus those used by our friends with | Macintosh computers. It would be interesting to know more about the | usage of email software, so were having the first Office Watch reader | poll the first of many we hope. | | You can take part by clicking on this link | http://office-watch.com/poll-ee-313.asp | | Weve made the poll simple and quick to complete. Just click on the | email program that you mostly use and then click on the Poll button at | the bottom of the page. `- You can get more details about Email Essentials and subscribe, if you wish, from http://office-watch.com/email/index.asp -- Julian Using The Bat! v3.5.30 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mark as read time configurable
On Saturday, November 13, 2004, 10:41:40 AM, Anthony G. Atkielski wrote: I already have the time set to zero (see attached screenshot), but there's still a pause after I open the message. I thought that zero meant never marked unread, but I could be wrong. Try blank, as this seems to mark as read immediately. You cannot send attachments to the list. Julian -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Empty Mail
On Monday, October 18, 2004, 11:44:19 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: HEY!! Anyone else reading this thread who's seen TB empty a mail on delivery? I've not seen that happen. Nobody's leaping in to say yeah, TB always does that. If somebody can support one or other side of this debate it would help. I have not seen TB empty a mail exactly, but I have problems with TB! (or something along the way that affects only TB!) changing the Part boundaries of messages so the file names do not appear correctly. For example, I got the following message which when the source is viewed shows the following boundary: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@13161 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=Draft Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 The problem is that the name should actually be Draft Cheshire Supporting People Eligibility Criteria v2.8.doc, but it gets chopped at the first space in the file name, so in the Attachment panel it appears as Draft and I have to rename it before I can open it. This only happens with one organisation, which suggests a peculiarity with their setup, but notwithstanding this, Outlook, OE and Popcorn all report the file name properly. Unfortunately I do not have an example downladed in another email client at the moment - I will test it again when one next arrives - but I recall that this content boundary only appeared to be truncated in TB!, that it is either TB! or the interaction of TB! and something else that is causing the problems. I created a bug report at the time this started affecting me: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=2043 Julian -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: More than six accounts: check fails over six
On Thursday, October 14, 2004, 11:07:10 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having got v3.0.1.33 and running POPFile I find the same problem over checking more than six email accounts occurs. I.e: TB log reports 'could not connect to mail server' for any more than six accounts being checked at the same time. Can anyone offer a way round this? I have to check all accounts individually to be sure all have been checked. Is this a problem with Popfile rather than TB? I can check 11 accounts at the same time without problems using TB! and SpamPal. Julian -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2nd REPOST: Problems with S/MIME
On Tuesday, October 5, 2004, 11:36:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, it's increasingly looking likely that I'm the only one (so far) suffering from this problem. I guess it doesn't look too hopeful I'll be able to resolve it. :( No, I tried generating a self-cert certificate and it failed for the same reason, so you are not alone. I too am using the Pro version, so maybe the problem is as you and Marck have suggested. Do you want to post a bug report and post the details here so I can support it? Julian -- Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mail aliases
On Thursday, September 30, 2004, 4:29:56 PM, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: OK. But nevertheless, the way TB! handles alias addresses could be improved IMHO. There should be an easier way to pick alias addresses (if you have many and switch them often) other than selecting a folder that has the correct identity (which sounds like a workaround to me). Try Options|Active Account in the message editor window, or right click on the account name shown in the status bar at the bottom of the message editor window. If you change the account before you enter any text into the body of the message, it will apply the new default account template/sig. Julian -- Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help! Connection Centre--can't send or receive mail
On Wednesday, September 22, 2004, 9:38:39 AM, Nick Dutton wrote: Have you tried telnet? It's always my first step when having problems like this. Or you could try something like Popcorn, which is a small email client which works with mail on the server - a bit like an advanced Message Despatcher. There used to be a freeware version which unlimited accounts (which I might be able to find and send you). It now costs USD20 and the freeware version is limited to one account. Still useful for emergencies, however. http://www.ultrafunk.com/products/popcorn/ -- Julian Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Version 3 Bug?
Hello TB! Users, I have been using version 3 (Pro) for a couple of days. Overall, it is good, particularly the new file system, and worth buying a few upgrade licences for (IMO). I have found a problem with a new filter I have created (for TBBETA). The filter is an Incoming filter, and moves incoming TBBETA messages to my mailing lists email account into the TBBETA folder. However, when a message arrives, the selected (active) folder view jumps from whatever I was reading at the time to the inbox of the JBLists account. This is OK if I am not doing anything at the time, but irritating if I am looking through another folder (in another account) when the focus moves. I have also noticed that the mail ticker flashes up very briefly when the message arrives in the account Inbox (where the ticker is enabled) and then disappears again as the message is filtered to the TBBETA folder (where the ticker is not enables. This does not happen for any other messages. Can anyone confirm these, or have I missed a setting somewhere? I have only been subscribed to TBBETA for a day, so if there were any messages before about these problems, I will have missed them. Julian -- Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Ritlabs News Bounce Messages (WAS: Re: emails are getting complicated)
On Friday, September 3, 2004, 8:53:06 AM, Tom Duda wrote: This all began when I purchased a license for The Bat! v3.0. I received in good time both expected emails, inluding the one with my registration keys. Then I received a third email telling me that because a sertain staff member was on vacation the email that I'd written to him had been forwareded to someone else. These messages are not being sent in response to any message that you have sent to the Ritlabs News mailing list. They are coming from the Ritlabs News mailing list, which you must have subscribed to when you said you wanted to be sent news and annoucements from Ritlabs. What is happening is that bounced messages to the RitLabs News mailing list address are being sent back out to the whole mailing list. This seems to be because these messages (I have had 3) are being bounced to the From: address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and not the Sender address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). You can either blame the RitLabs News mailing list setup, which probably should not be possible to reply to as the messages should only come from Ritlabs and not from members of the list, or you can blame the people who are bouncing messages back to the list address and not the bounced mail address. The evils of Out of Office replies! Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Playing with BayesIT macros
On Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 6:22:50 AM, Michael L. Wilson wrote: I have been playing with BayesIT macros to create statistics on the bottom of this email. Don't forget that Netiquette dictates that the length of the sig should be 4-5 lines maximum. The length of your sig, particularly once you have added BayesIT data, is well in excess of this. Users of TB! and the RTV may not notice this, but not everyone uses TB!, and these unfortunate people will see many lines of sig, which they will have to manually chop in replies. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Table formatting
On Monday, July 5, 2004, 7:50:39 AM, Allister Jenks wrote: My point was that Office is a less than ideal choice. But then if it works for you, I see no reason you shouldn't use it. Just be aware that Office is as much an HTML editor by design as TB!. This reminds me of the following, which was posted by Thomas on TBOT back in the mists of time: On Friday, August 2, 2002, 7:46:43 PM, Thomas F. wrote: FAQ on the web page developers' site: Q: How do I protect my work so that people cannot copy the code? A: You can't. But if you use FrontPage, nobody will *want* to copy it. Insert your favourite Office application in place of FrontPage. :-) Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I really need some practical advice - synchronising
On Thursday, July 1, 2004, 9:55:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But don't you the have emails that have been deleted from the DT but are still on the LT? That is why I occasionally restore a backup from the desktop onto the laptop, as this gets the message bases back into synch. What is a 'reserve synch' - do you mean you individually select folders for synching - i.e: just the 'Sent Mail' folders? If yes: then that's a bit of a pain for 35+ accounts. I do, but I don't have a large number of accounts (about 10) and I don't do it very often. By 'reinstall' you mean Registry entries and the 'MAIL' directory? The built-in backup routine does not include the Registry entries, so I just restore the mail folders. I suppose that I could do this by copying the mail directories (or even using Laplink). One problem is that this process usually resets the filters, so they have to be re-pointed at the correct folders again. Interesting, but how does LapLink keep track of what's been deleted so it knows to delete it from the other machine? It does not, so it will try to copy back across the messages that have been deleted from the laptop. Laplink does true synchronisation, so will copy either way depending on timestamps and its own database of synch'd files. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I really need some practical advice - synchronising
On Thursday, July 1, 2004, 8:50:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone has the energy and perspicacity to see their way through the trials and tribulations I have been through I would welcome realistic advice. I have had a look through, and I am not sure if my arrangement will help. I have a similar situation, with a Desktop PC and a Laptop. I use the laptop whilst travelling, and this can use a variety of SMTP settings depending on where I am accessing the internet from (office LAN, mobile, or home network). My current arrangement is to synchronize all messages from the desktop to the laptop whenever i go away. This ensures that i have all the messages that I send and received on my desktop machine are with me when I go away. I have set both machines to leave messages on the server for 3 days, which ensures that I get the messages to both machines, and in particular that I can leave both machines running and still collect mail on the laptop. If there are sent messages that I need to transfer from the laptop to the desktop, then I occasionally do a reserve synch of sent messages from the laptop to the desktop. I keep the desktop clear of old messages, and occasionally backup the desktop installation, and reinstall it onto the laptop, which brings the messages back into synch. This does mean I lose the laptop account settings, so I don't do it very often. I find this arrangement quite workable. It would be better to have true synchronisation (I use Laplink, but it does not sound like it works at the level of the software you use), as it would deal with deleted mail, but even Laplink struggles with this, and will attempt to recopy deleted files and folders. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: questions/suggestions for the bat...
On Sunday, June 20, 2004, 12:07:44 PM, Allie Martin wrote: X-Ray http://www.xrayapp.com/, a little utility for The Bat! has the ability to choose SMTP server to use based on your machine's IP address. Could that help? I used x-ray for this purpose on my laptop, but found that after some changes to the network at the office, which uses Exchange, the connection to the smtp server for the office was always rejected when it went via X-Ray, although it worked perfectly when I entered exactly the same information directly into TB!s smtp settings. I have since found that my ISP offers SMTPAUTH for use when not directly connected to the ISP's network, so I use this on the laptop. This is very convenient, as I can send mail via my ISP however I am connecting to the internet. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What toes this tick mean?
On Sunday, June 20, 2004, 3:28:23 PM, Alexander Gladilin wrote: There was an attachment with a picture (1KB), but it has disappeared! I mean a tick on the field message flags: there is a picture of letter with a tick at the right top corner. It means that the message has been signed using PGP MIME or SMIME. You will see a corresponding tick in the message header section of the preview pane (the far right), and you will get details of the signature if you click on this, assuming you have the relevant software (PGP) installed. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Downloading e-mail on to second computer
On Thursday, June 17, 2004, 9:34:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thebat.exe is located in The Bat subdirectoy of the program directory. (I think!) I will try your suggestions, but, unfortunately, it will have to wait as the desktop is fully dismantled due to a flood in our basement office and it (the desktop) does not have wireless capability. I expect the desktop to be back up and running in about two weeks. In the meantime, I can access TBUDL through other channels. I have installed TB! in circumstances similar to yours without problems. In my case I keep all my downloaded files in a shared folder on my PC, which is accessible to other computers (laptops) on a peer to peer network which connects through an ADSL Router. In think that given the problems you are having, I would be tempted to download the TB! installation program direct from Ritlabs to your laptop and install from there. It sounds a bit like you have copied the TB executable to the laptop, rather than the installation package, which is why you are having problems. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Import from Outlook fails
On Thursday, June 17, 2004, 12:08:39 PM, Armin Mutscheller wrote: I'm evaluating TB and would LOVE to use it as an alternative to Outlook, but for some reason I'm unable to import existing Outlook folders and messages. When I select an Outlook folder for import, TB starts working really hard and displays a progress bar. It also creates the respective folder structure in the file system, as well as in the Account pane, but when the import is complete all of these folders remain empty. The number of messages to import makes no difference. Apparently this behaviour occurs only when an MS Exchange server is present. On another system, with Outlook running as a stand-alone application, all Outlook folders are imported properly. What you could try is importing the data via Outlook Express. It is not as simple as a direct import, but the transfer between Outlook and Outlook is painless. I am not sure why there should be a problem with Exchange, but is guess the problem is that the message storage if you are using Outlook with Exchange is different, and messages and data are held on the server, rather than locally. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access Violation
On Sunday, June 13, 2004, 12:54:28 PM, Allie Martin wrote: Hmmm. This shouldn't be the case. It should open and I confirm your problem. Seems like a bug. Can anyone else confirm this. I'll bring it up on TBBETA I cannot confirm this. Double-clicking on the HTML file results in the opening warning. If I choose YES (to save the file) I can then open it in my browser (Mozilla) and it will open the message and the remote images, showing the local file location as the URL (file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/*.*/My%20Documents/Message.html). Answering NO will open the message in Mozilla and get the remote images, but shows TB's temp directory as the URL (file:///C:/DOCUME~1/*~1.***/LOCALS~1/Temp/bat/4C6370E5.html). Perhaps it is an IE problem? Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access Violation
On Sunday, June 13, 2004, 1:59:34 PM, Allie Martin wrote: Ok. Your not confirming hastened my efforts to check further. I changed my default browser from Netcaptor to Opera and it works now. Is the problem with Message.html attachments that you open directly from TB (without saving first) or do you get the same problem with messages that you have previously saved? If the latter, then it would suggest that it is a system default browser problem rather than TB! as TB! would not be involved. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Get rid of X-mailer header.
On Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 11:55:47 AM, nednieuws|charles wrote: Is there a way to do it? Yes, Options|Preferences|General and deselect Show X-Mailer Heading in Messages. This is a global setting, so affects all accounts. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: X-Ray: why?
On Friday, May 28, 2004, 8:14:25 AM, Michael L. Wilson wrote: Someone told me I should be using X-Ray if I use the Bat. I have downloaded it and configured it a little, and now I need to ask why? What does it really do for me? Anyone have any good Kludge filters to use with it? Why shuffle SMTP and POP servers? Any ideas? There are two reasons you might wish to use X-Ray. One is that is allows you to modify the headers in your email messages - it is a quite sophisticated program in this respect. The other reason is if you are using TB! on a laptop, for example, and may need to send messages through a variety of SMTP servers. In this case you tell TB that the SMTP server is Localhost (X-Ray) and X-Ray can either manually or automatically choose the SMTP server. For example, I used X-Ray to choose between a Work (Exchange), Home (DSL) and Mobile (Dial-up) SMTP server, which it did automatically depending on the IP address the laptop had been allocated. I don't do this now, as my ISP has an option of Authenticated SMTP, so I can send mail through my ISP's SMTP servers whichever network I am connected to. Hope this helps! [ps - your sig delimited is broken. It should be [dash][dash][space] Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Opening url with non-default browser
On Tuesday, May 18, 2004, 10:44:06 PM, Chris wrote: I'll have to agree with you. Now if The Bat! had a built-in browser... ...we could call it Outlook! Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with Initials in replies
On Saturday, May 15, 2004, 5:00:54 PM, rich gregory wrote: I'll not use that one! BUT I do need one like that... I also have bracketed text added to my subject line that always needs to be removed when I from reply. Is that the [2] as in Re[2]: Problem with Initials in replies? If so, you can turn this off for the account in question by going to Account Properties, then Templates|Reply and unticking Use reply numbering in the subject line. I am not sure of the purpose of this option, which seems to be turned on by default, but it quickly becomes confusing. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help! Disappearing address book.
On Friday, May 14, 2004, 9:41:24 AM, Roelof Otten wrote: The only thing I can imagine is that it's placed outside of your desktop. Have you (or somebody else on your pc) been playing with the screen resolution? Mac have a utility available called DragAnyWindow which allows off-sreen windows to be easily found and dragged back into view. There does not seem to be anything similar available for Windows, for which there seems to be an equal need! Does the Registry key HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\Address selector have anything to do with the window position? It appears to have a set of window co-ordinates. Mine are currently (in decimal) Height 362 Left 302 Separation 249 Top 250 Width 548 Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: download progress indicator
On Wednesday, May 12, 2004, 2:55:04 PM, Roelof Otten wrote: That happened to me too, while downloading a 33 MB message with 2.04.07 Don't know whether it worked with previous versions, since my messages are generally being downloaded without any human supervision. Is this linked to your anti-virus software? I get the same, but I think that the progress bar is triggered when the message is first seen by TB! but that TB! does not get the rest of the messsage from the antivirus software (in my case Norton AntiVirus 2004) until the antivirus software has downloaded the whole thing and scanned it. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.10.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I have a problem..
On Friday, April 23, 2004, 3:06:18 AM, malexander wrote: I use Second Copy too. But I have it set to do a continuous back up (well, almost) every 20 mins and that includes my message base. The problem with this is that you do not have a history to roll back to, for example, you delete some vital messages from the message base, but don't realise for 1 day. By then, your backup will have been over-written several times. I use 12-Ghosts Backup for things that I need a history of. You can set items to continuously back up, creating a copy once a minute, hour, day, week and month. This means I have a history of revisions going back as far as I want. This could be difficult with a complete message base (unless you have a *very* big hard disk), but you could do it on a particular account or folder. http://12ghosts.com/ghosts/backup.htm Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronize?
On Monday, April 19, 2004, 6:44:30 AM, Susanne wrote: Well, we now both have the same version of TB, but the synchronizing *still* doesn't work. Did the steps I described in my first mail sound correct, or am I doing something wrong there? The steps you list sound correct. There are a couple of things you could check: - Are all the accounts you want to synchronize selected? It sounds obvious, but I missed an account on a few occasions! - Synchronisation will only work between identical folder structures and it will not, as far as I know, create folders on the destination machine if they do not already exist. The same appears to go for accounts. - You need to make sure that both machines are using the same files! I spent a frustrating 1/2 hour on one occasion wondering why my new messages would not appear on the target machine until I realised that I had not connected the network cable, so the machine was using an old synchronisation file! Hope this helps. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronizing Desktop with Notebook
On Friday, March 19, 2004, 2:41:03 PM, Kevin Coates wrote: Ah, I think I understand now. So I needn't worry which machine I download mail with as long as I synchronize periodically. Thanks for the explanation. The other thing to remember to TB! synch is that it is one way each time, that is, when you run the first stage of the synch on the laptop it compares the laptop with the PC and then copies any messages on the PC but not the laptop onto the laptop, but will not copy messages not on the PC from the laptop. This means that you will have to run the synch twice to get a full synchronisation of both machines. The other thing to note is that the process only copies files, but does not delete, so if you have deleted a load of messages on the laptop, and then run a PC, they won't be deleted from the PC and could be copied back to the laptop. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.04.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Displaying the Euro Symbol
On Saturday, March 6, 2004, 9:11:28 AM, David Stone wrote: I did notice that the email from you showed the as a square with spokes on each corner which I think is alt0164 ¤. Did you generate it with alt0164, or with alt-Gr 4 which is what I used? is created with Crtl-Alt-4 and ¤ is created with alt0164. is produced by AltGr-4. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.04.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Displaying the Euro Symbol
Hello TB! Users, I get mail from a daily news email that includes currency symbols. Whilst the GBP and USD signs appear as they should, the Euro symbol always appears as a code, as below: Eircom valued at up to #8364;1.3bn after pricing Eircom, Ireland's largest telecommunications operator, set a price range of #8364;1.48 to #8364;1.75 per share for its IPO, valuing the company at up to #8364;1.26bn. Is this a problem with the email message itself, the Character Set I am viewing it in, or the font? (Of course, if the problem is with my settings, then you may see Euro symbols above, and not the code. The code is #8364; - I have added a space after the to stop it being interpreted.) Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.04.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Displaying the Euro Symbol
On Friday, March 5, 2004, 12:02:21 PM, David Stone wrote: Perhaps the original news item is written in HTML and then converted into text-only along the way. I think that the #8364; is an HTML special code like nbsp; is for non-breaking space. That is the probable answer. £ and $ are not special characters, so would not need to be shown this way. The ¤ sign appeared fine in your message, so it suggests that it is a problem with the incoming email message, rather than my settings. Thanks! Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.04.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mass mail using data from Excel
On Thursday, February 19, 2004, 9:09:07 AM, Neil wrote: So apart from import CSV into TB AB group then Run QT in TB from AB group to create email in Outbox there is no other way?? If you don't *have* to use TB!, what about other software to do this. Have a look at http://mach5-mailer.com/products/mailer/features.php There is a free version of this software, which limited the mailing to 200 messages per sessions, but that might be sufficient for you. You could also try the following, which looks like it uses the default MAPI email client: http://www.j-walk.com/ss/excel/tips/tip86.htm Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Scroll Wheel Problem
On Thursday, February 5, 2004, 9:26:06 PM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: What are the settings for those buttons? I have an MX500 too and those two buttons work as expected here... Just to add to the people without problems with a logitech mouse, I have a MX700, and this works almost perfectly with TB!, using version 9.79 of Mousewere. I can confirm what Bill has noted, and the cruise up/down buttons do not work in the preview pane, although the normal wheel does. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can I import TB into Outlook?
On Sunday, January 4, 2004, 4:28:52 AM, Steve M. Sawczyn wrote: Unfortunately, my employer has recently decided to disable pop access forcing me to use their exchange server via Outlook. Problem is, I've been using TB for my work mail for a while now and have thousands of messages which I need to refer back to from time to time. Is there a way to import TB messages into Outlook? I looked under export, but none of the file formats seem to be supported by Outlook. I use TB to directly access the Exchange Server, so I can continue to use TB to send and receive work email. I found that just adding the name of our Exchange Server in the Mail Server box in the account properties|transport worked fine with my logon details. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: no certificate button
On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, 6:32:58 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: oh, I didn't mention that I already tried to re-install the last release,2.1.03 and it still didn't make my certificate button reappear.. so it might be a beat issue, but even using a known release I don't have one. I am using Windows XP but an earlier version of TB than you are, and my certificates button appears as it should. Your sig still suggests that you are using a TB beta, so perhaps that is still the issue. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachment Name Problems
On Wednesday, November 19, 2003, 3:52:42 PM, Roelof Otten wrote: JBL ,- [ File Boundary - truncated file name] JBL | [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@11CBF JBL | Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=CRB JBL | Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 JBL `- As this is the incoming message, I don't think it's TB's fault, when looking to this I can't get any further than 'CRB' as the file name When I tested this by looking at the message source before it was downloaded, I found the full file name. It seems to be a problem with the way the TB is handling the message once received that is causing the problems. Do you have your TB mail processed by an extra tool, spam filter, whatever that's leaving Outlook's mail alone? I have tried downloading the same messages with SpamPal disabled, with the same result, so that does not seem to be the source of the problem. As I said, I am not sure how far this is TB's fault, as it is probably a badly configured server at the other end that is causing the problems, be I don't think TB should be truncating the file names, particularly when other MUAs don't. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachment Name Problems
On Tuesday, November 18, 2003, 1:44:13 PM, Gerard wrote: I am not sure it is TB! hat is causing this because the name in the section is just Daily. See below. The full name is not to be seen anywere, so how i TB! to know? I always assumed it was a problem with the sender. ,- [ ] | Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=Daily | Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 `- I thought that, but Outlook downloads the message with the full file name, so why not the TB? [pauses to check using Popcorn] The problem seems to be TB. Using Popcorn to look at the mail, I get the following headers, which include the full file name: ,- [ Output from Popcorn Mail Client ] | To: Julian Beach (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: latest draft needing footer sorting | Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:13:36 - | X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Nov 2003 09:38:13.0328 (UTC) FILETIME=[AF9ABD00:01C3ADB7] | | | Here you go Haringey Tender final.doc | [snip message text] | | | begin 600 Haringey Tender final.doc | MT,\1X*QN$`/@`#`/[_00 | MQ00`$```QP0```$```#^`+L$``\!```O00``+X$ | M``_!```P`0``,$$``#!```PP0``,0$``#8!```604``/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@8` `- This is what I get in TB: ,- [ Copy of Headers in TB ] | To: Julian Beach (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: latest draft needing footer sorting | Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:13:36 - | X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Nov 2003 09:38:13.0328 (UTC) FILETIME=[AF9ABD00:01C3ADB7] | MIME-Version: 1.0 | Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@105DF | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@105DF | |Here you go Haringey Tender final.doc | [snip body text] | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@105DF | Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=Haringey | Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 | | 0M8R4KGxGuEAPgADAP7/CQAGAAAQxQQA | EAAAxwQAAAEAAAD+ALsEAAC8BAAAvQQAAL4EAAC/BAAAwAQAAMEEAADCBAAA | wwQAAMQEAADYBAAAWQUAAP8FAAB6BgAAxgYAAFIHAAD/ `- Something is happening when TB works out the file name from the footer, and I think that the problem is related to 8 bit messages, as I see that yours has the same octet-stream content type. Does anyone else have this problem? Is there a way to force TB to send 8 bit messages so I can test? Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Marck's SpamCop filters : (
On Tuesday, November 18, 2003, 9:16:25 PM, David Boggon wrote: There are some check boxes I don't understand in the 'options' tab of the sorting office... like Check the selected message against this rule and Regular expressions, both of which are unchecked. I have problems getting the spam filter to work at times, usually because of tickbox problems. My current set up, which works, is: Rule is: [x] Active [x] Manual Only On Options sheet [x] Execute using Hot Key [x] Check Selected message against rule [ ] This rule is executed only by pressing the hot key The Check Selected option limits the filter to just the selected message(s) and the Executed Only option is to stop it running when you re-filter (I think) Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Attachment Name Problems
Hello TB! Users, I am having problems with attachments I am receiving. The attachment names are being truncated by TB at the first space in the file name so that The Full Filename.doc becomes The. The messages are fine if downloaded in Outlook - the problem only appears to affect this one organization (suggesting a misconfiguration somewhere), and only TB (which probably means that TB is handling the messages properly, and Outlook is not!). I think that this might be another Base64 problem, as the messages are encoded as Base64, whilst messages I have no problems with tend to be 7-bit. Has anyone else come across this? Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachment Name Problems
On Friday, November 14, 2003, 5:12:31 PM, Roelof Otten wrote: JBL I am having problems with attachments I am receiving. The attachment JBL names are being truncated by TB at the first space in the file name so JBL that The Full Filename.doc becomes The. Haven't seen this before. Could you post the headers of the attachment section of a faulty message? You can see those only when you're viewing the source. (Press F9) It does not tell you very much, but here it is (addresses munged)! ,- [ Message Headers ] | Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | From: xxx [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: RE: x Tender | Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:52:51 - | X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Nov 2003 13:09:03.0125 (UTC) FILETIME=[4F67D450:01C3A9E7] | X-Bayesian-Result: Clean (0) | X-Bayesian-Words: 07970 0 608348 0 7330 0 7697 0 86yd 0 9170 0 addressee 0 attached 0 | X-SpamPal: PASS | MIME-Version: 1.0 | Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@11CBF | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@11CBF `- ,- [ File Boundary - truncated file name] | [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@11CBF | Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=CRB | Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 `- As an experiment, I tried forwarding the message from Outlook to another email account, and downloaded it with TB. The files came across perfectly. This this the file boundary of the message when I shows properly in TB, after forwarding from Outlook: ,- [ File Boundary - message forwarded from Outlook (same file) ] | --=_NextPart_000_0001_01C3AAF7.A920D0D0 | Content-Type: application/msword; | name=CRB - Assessing criminal convictions V2.doc | Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 | Content-Disposition: attachment; | filename=CRB - Assessing criminal convictions V2.doc `- I am not sure what the problem is, but I wonder if it is related to it being 8 bit? I guess that is what the Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=CRB means. I suspect that it is a problem with the sender's set up, but I am not sure why it is upsetting TB! Probably something Microsoft did! Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: replies and cutlines
On Thursday, November 13, 2003, 4:40:15 PM, ken green wrote: It's pretty close. I have QTs that allow me to top or bottom post. But the problem I run into is that once the cut mark and text below is deleted from a reply, that text is gone. I guess I need to fiddle with my templates. Use the %OTEXT macro instead of %QUOTES in your reply. This quotes the full text, including the sig. I have this in my business top quoting template, as below: == Original Message === Date: %ODateEn at %OTimeLongEn From: %OFROMNAME (%OFROMADDR) Subject: %OSUBJ %otext === End of Original Message === Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why isn't the message being PGP-signed?
On Wednesday, November 12, 2003, 12:12:36 PM, Mark Partous wrote: is being appended to: %FROMADDR%- in the resulting message so that I get Mark Partous/380.50.30 instead of the expected: Mark Partous 02/380.50.30 List seems quiet today, so I will answer this: The missing line feed is due to the %- at the end of your %FROMADDR macro. The %- suppresses the line feed after the macro, so if you remove it, you will get the results you want. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Newbie here ... how does one read messages in an off-line mode?
On Thursday, November 6, 2003, 6:47:03 PM, Tony Boom wrote: Maybe they're thinking the way I am. I see no reason whatsoever to suspend auto mail collection unless it gets in the way of another application. There is no cost issue with BB. If you have no programs at all running it is still on If it does get in the way, just close it. If your working with TB! then auto mail polling can be made completely transparent other than new unread mail appearing every now and again. It needn't interrupt what your doing at the time. Maybe NTL's mail servers are more reliable than Pipex's bit short mail outages, but mail server outages, or even my ADSL connection going offline for a few minutes are some of the reasons I would like to be able to suspend mail collection for a while. It is very irritating when TB! dings (or whatever your error sound is) every few minutes when there is a problem with mail collection. I may still be working on my mail, so I don't want to close TB!, I just want it to stop trying to collect mail for a while! Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message Despatcher receive settings
On Sunday, November 2, 2003, 2:23:12 AM, Gordon Woolf wrote: When I use this to check a mail account all of the mail has the Read and Delete checkboxes checked but just a few have the Receive checkbox selected, and there does not seem to be any logical reason for what is selected and what is not. From my own use of the message despatcher, I believe that it unticks the receive box from any messages that have previously been downloaded, and left on the server. I leave all my messages on the server, and if I chose to view all messages (ctrl-Shft-f2) with the message despatcher, it will show them all, but only mark those not already downloaded for Receive. What might be happening is that you have TB set up to leave messages on the server. The ones that have Receive unticked are ones that have been downloaded, and the others are new. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HELP - Text attachment unreadable...???!!!
On Thursday, October 23, 2003, 6:06:44 PM, Anne wrote: So, the file you sent was really a compressed file and should have had the extension .zip instead of .txt at the end of the title. Any thoughts as to why/where this may be happening? My correspondent uses comcast.net as his ISP - could it be something they are doing to the attachment - perhaps as an anti-virus measure? I can't see it being my ISP (Freenetname) or the one I mailed myself would have been treated the same way. As far as I remember, the Zip file format is a version of uuencoding, so a zip utility should be able to decode a uuencoded file. This suggests that your message is changing to uuencoded format somewhere on its journey from your outbox to his inbox. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.01.3 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PATCH
On Monday, October 20, 2003, 3:51:06 AM, John Morse wrote: I will update this patch with each new version I can also make you a personalized patch, but you must send me your message and it has to be 25 characters in length (including spaces) This is good work for the people on the list, but I am a bit concerned that hacking the executable like this is probably in breach of your license agreement for TB. I have not looked at the license for TB, but most have a clause prohibiting such actions. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.01 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Woody's EMAIL Essentials?
On Friday, October 10, 2003, 12:51:09 AM, Gordon Woolf wrote: No hope for it here. In the latest issue editor Rose Vines writes: There are no good reasons for putting your reply beneath the original. First, it forces the recipient to scroll to the bottom, a waste of time. Second, if the recipient habitually replies above the original, as most people do, there's a good chance they'll fail to see your reply altogether and simply assume you hit the Send button before you started typing. You'll look dumb, then they'll look dumb. No-one will be happy. Third, your reply won't show up in the preview pane. Yes, I noticed that one, although to be fair, the overall conclusion is that your quoting style should match the needs of the recipient, not not be fixed. I have a top quoting template for use on work emails, as people like to preserve a message history at the bottom of a message, and think that I have forgotten to reply if I bottom quote. In line quoting is perfect for mailing lists, but confuses many people! I will continue to subscribe for a bit, and hopefully manage to get a mention of The Bat in the e-zine myself! Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Woody's EMAIL Essentials?
Hello TB! Users, Has anyone see Woody's Email Essentials yet? This is another free e-zine from the Woody's Office Watch stable, and all about Email. At the moment the e-zine is very Outlook and OE focussed, but they do mention other clients. Perhaps they need some comments from TBUDL about the best email client there is, as it is a pity that so many of their readers don't know about TB! You can subscribe to the weekly e-zine at http://woodyswatch.com/email/ or I can send you a copy if you ask me by PM (not to the list). The latest issue tells you about using an external program to clean subject lines and the text of messages, for those poor people who don't use TB. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Woody's EMAIL Essentials?
On Thursday, October 9, 2003, 8:55:46 PM, Bill McCarthy wrote: I use TB (both this version and the 2.x). I also need an external (X-Ray) to clean subject lines on incoming mail. Are you saying you have a way of cleaning incoming subject lines automatically? No, I think it is done via the clipboard. Looking at it more closely (http://ronbrandon.com/lukeminnie/email_cleaner.htm) is appears that is just removes '' marks and does not clean the header after all. BTW, I tried the archives and the current issue links. In both cases, I received a It's missing page :-( They are encouraging people to subscribe by not making archive copies available yet :-( Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB!, SpamPal, or POP Server?
On Thursday, October 2, 2003, 2:18:22 PM, Joseph N. wrote: JN The other problem is that SpamPal sometimes just spins and spins JN and does not ever allow downloading; the process has to be JN terminated through Windows. To answer part of my own query, it seems the culprit here might be the Bayesian plug-in, version 1.07e3. Still evaluating, though I had the same problems with the new version of the Bayesian plug-in too, and went back to the previous version of it (1.06) which works OK. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Worm filter text
On Sunday, September 28, 2003, 8:39:36 AM, Neal Laugman wrote: We do the best we can. No one else has been willing to share what they have been using and there are people like me who have a very serious problem to deal with. I think, perhaps, that many people on the list have abandoned trying to filter spam using TB filters when there are many excellent third-party spam filters available. There is so much spam around now that it takes too long to try to keep filters up to date, and as fast as I change the filters for new spam, the details change again. I use Spampal, together with the Baysian plug-in, but others use Popfile etc. They are free, do the hard work of keeping filters up to date, and therefore offer excellent value for money. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
On Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 5:40:47 AM, Vishal wrote: Ok, great. I just automatic mail checking with NO firewall installed and it still doesn't work. I'm using the eval version of 2.0.0.6. It looks like ZA wasn't to blame after all. What could be wrong? Is it something to do with the settings under Options|Network and Administration. In particular, perhaps there is a problem with the Mail Checking settings here. Try various combinations of these. As I am using an DSL connection via a router, I am using the Network Connection option, so the options are greyed out. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?
On Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 4:50:29 AM, Vishal wrote: Not yet. I'm aware of it though and someone else just brought it to my attention as well. I'll definitely keep it in mind if I can't get BlackICE to work. Thanks. I used BlackIce for a number of years, before finally ditching it in favour of Outpost. I found that there were a few problems with the processes in BlackIce that disrupted my day to day work. Application protection scanning was slow, and had a modal dialogue box that would sit on top of the screen whilst scanning and could not be dismissed. Very frustrating. Outpost v2 Pro has been excellent so far. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: some threads not sorted as threads
On Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 10:56:44 AM, Roelof Otten wrote: I suppose it's a coincidence. Threads are being shown as full threads as long as there aren't any branches split from their common root. The ZoneAlarm thread you were mentioning had lots of separate branches that kept going on. On such a thread it's more likely that you're deleting common roots than on a thread maintained by two correspondents. I checked the references on the broken threads that I have, and found that I no longer had the messages with the MID: in my message base, because they had purged. As I use a maximum limit of 200 messages for deletion purposes, and the list has been generating lots of traffic recently, I have had lots of broken threads because the earlier messages in threads are being lost. I have not (yet) seen any examples of TB! breaking threads that have references to messages that have not been deleted. YMMV, of course! Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?
On Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 2:49:12 PM, Dave Kennedy wrote: The Internet is becoming to be treated in the same manner as automobiles. I.e. I just want it to work and don't care how it works. This fits in quite well with the following bit of research: - A staggering one in seven technologically challenged employees needs help even switching their computers on and off, according to research commissioned by City Guilds. The UK vocational awarding body's study of 405 random UK financial directors revealed that, despite the fact that PCs have been around for over thirty years, getting to grips with the devices is totally beyond many British office workers. A fifth were found to struggle to save a document, more than one in five need assistance printing, while a quarter cannot understand a spreadsheet. http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/67/32742.html for the details --- Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: expanding the height of the message header field?
On Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 10:16:21 PM, Jurgen Haug wrote: here, it adds a fancy scrollbar argh I think that's a bug, can you confirm? No bug. You have the option for each header for it either to expand the header section permanently to display it, or add it to the end of the headers and put in a scrollbar to keep the header section the same size. Go to Options|Preferences|Message Headers (in the tree view) Select the header that is in the scrollable bit, and click on Edit. At the bottom of the dialogue, de-select Display in Scrollable Part of Message Pane. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Start up: The Bat balks
On Monday, September 8, 2003, 12:44:16 PM, David R. Austen wrote: Over the past few weeks, I have discovered that the only way to reliably start The Bat (1.62i) is to first start and then exit Outlook (Outlook is not used for my email.) And nearly every time I start The Bat, I see this message: A call to an OS function failed. I then hit Enter and The Bat runs normally. I run Outlook and TB (I also use Time and Chaos for work task scheduling, but have not found it to be an adequate replacement for my contacts and diary). I do not have any problems, but this message does ring a bell - it sounds a bit like Outlook and TB fighting it out over default settings, as Outlook fights a rearguard action if it is not the default client. Have a look at the Programs settings in IE (Tools|Internet Options|Programs) and then the individual defaults for Outlook and TB and see if you can find any conflicts. I always had problems with TB being the default handler for .VCF, so I leave this and MSG unticked in TB! Everything works fine without. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Start up: The Bat balks
On Monday, September 8, 2003, 2:03:05 PM, Deborah W wrote: Really? What do you find that Outlook does with your contacts diary that TC won't? The main issues are Palm synchronisation, the big issue finding something that supports Date Book Categories on the Palm, as used by DateBk5. I have tried a few programs to find something that will work, but not, as yet, succeeded. I liked Lotus Organiser, but it did not support Categories, a problem with many PIMs. I am hoping that Chapura (of Pocket Mirror fame) will write a conduit for some alternative PIMs, as they understand categories. I don't use TC as my diary because I like to keep my appointments and calendar separate from my todo list, which the TC Palm sync will not do. I was not very impressed with the address book! Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
On Monday, September 8, 2003, 4:50:12 PM, Alexander wrote: If that is so then what, in the name of everything that doesn't suck, would've been the problem to say registered before 1.50 release = high update fee while registered before 1.60 release = moderate upgrade fee and registered after 1.60 release = lower upgrade fee? Cost, I should imagine. TB is not a high cost product, and the costs of providing an upgrade procedure based on this, which would probably require considerable manual checking, would probably wipe out the profit. As I noted before, although the current upgrade policy may not be fair to recent purchasers, it does have the benefit of being cheap to operate, and therefore helps to keep the costs of the product down. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Template file?
On Monday, September 8, 2003, 4:53:04 PM, Peter Kerekes wrote: Are the templates in one or more files, if so which one? I would like to copy the file over to my BAT directory in the Notebook. When I transferred TB onto my laptop, I created a backup on the desktop machine, and restored it on the laptop. I had to make some changes to the connection properties on the laptop, because I connect differently on there, but apart from that it worked perfectly, and all my templates and filters transferred too. Account settings are in account.cfg, filters in account.srx, QTs in account.qtn, and other account templates in account.flx. If you open the files in Notepad, you can usually work out what is in them. Make sure you back up the original file on the laptop before transferring just in case it goes horribly wrong! The other way to do it is copy the text from your templates into a blank document, and transfer the document to the laptop, and then paste the text into your laptop templates. This is how I manage it for small numbers of templates. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
On Sunday, September 7, 2003, 2:14:05 PM, Mark wrote: If the current upgrade price of $17.50 goes to, for example, $25.00 (Personal/Private) while the full The Bat! v2 Personal/Private cost is $35.00, I would probably pay the $17.50 now rather than $25.00 later. You don't have to actually install V2 now if you want to wait until the first service release or two - once you have the email with the key, you can save it until you upgrade. This way you can get the lower price upgrade, but continue with version 1.x for the timebeing. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
On Sunday, September 7, 2003, 4:21:31 PM, Alexander wrote: And, I beg your pardon, I'm trying to raise something like a conscience when you call it whining. Lets get ripped off over over again, we really don't deserve any better. I don't think that there will be any winners to this argument. I see TB as representing excellent value for money, and I would happily have paid the full price for the upgrade - it is still a relatively small cost for such a high quality product, and I see my registration fee as a fair return to Ritlabs for their continued investment and development of the product. At the same time, I can see the point you and others are making. If you don't feel that TB represents such good value for money, then you would not be happy with the registration/upgrade fee. I can understand this, even if I do not share it. In the end, I don't think that Ritlabs are going to change their minds, which is their right. After all, they know how much it has cost to develop TB, how much they need to get in in registration fee income, and how much they can generate from new users. The existing user-base represents a large potential source of income, and I can see why Ritlabs would want to tap this. It might seem unfair, but perhaps that is just business ecomomics. Having said that, if TB cost $150, then I would probably be arguing with you - which just shows that it is all down to perceived value! Thinking about it, Ritlabs are probably trying to save admin costs with the current upgrade policy. A system based on the date of original registration would be very costly to administer, whereas having a fixed upgrade period makes it much easier. After the end of the initial period, everyone gets a new licence, so no need to check existing serial numbers and licence keys. If this method helps to keep the cost down, then I am all for it. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
On Sunday, September 7, 2003, 5:49:37 PM, Carsten Guthardt-Schulz wrote: I can't believe that there are people who take it for a fair option to buy the upgrade now and only start using it in a couple of months. Think about it, how ridiculous is that? If you believe that Ritlabs are a private company, and are free to do what they want, then this approach seems to be sensible, as they are not likely to change their minds! You don't have to want TB v2.x now, but if you think you will after October 2003, then it is still worth paying the $17.50 now. Perhaps the people who have upgraded to v2 and paid the reduced price registration fee are getting a discount for beta-testing the full v2 release? Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Registration woes II
On Friday, September 5, 2003, 4:23:11 PM, Marek Mikus wrote: there are only two fields in V2 registration dialog, Key and Checksum, no password is required, like in V1.x. I think I was asked for a password when I purchased the licence, but the license installed automatically when I clicked off the email with the key and checksum - very clever. Julian -- Using The Bat! v2.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Blank e-mails - again
On Monday, September 1, 2003, 1:33:19 PM, John Phillips wrote: That is a common thread with the last blank e-mails as well. Is this a bug in Bat? I tried the same as Thomas, and got a blank message. I think that it could be related to Big5, and strangely, if I select the Big5 CharSet myself [View|Character Set|Chinese Traditional (Big5)] Thomas's response to your original message becomes blank, although I can see all his other messages fine. The exported message also remains blank, so perhaps it is blank because I don't have Big5 on my PC? As a further test, I then changed the Character Set in your copied email to USASCII by editing the tb.msg file I created, and it displayed fine. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with sending attachments
On Thursday, August 28, 2003, 1:21:31 PM, Mary Cassidy wrote: The problem doesn't lie with the reserve provider, because I can send attachments with the Netscape e-mail program. I use a router with the main provider, and an external modem with the reserve one. Any idea where the problem could be with The Bat? This problem rings a bell, but I cannot remember the details. I am pretty sure that the problem is not with TB! however - I think that the problem will be with your router, possibly with any firewall settings you have in it, or in any software firewall you have. You say that you can send messages with Netscape? Is this the same message and attachment, with the router, using the same provider? The other thing that causes a sudden disconnection of your internet connection is Blaster, of course, so it could be worth checking. Sorry if this is not much help - more questions - but perhaps the answers may help someone else suggest a solution. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sender info on reply's and forwards
On Tuesday, August 5, 2003, 5:49:02 PM, Eric Santon wrote: How do I get the macros to come up? Where should I insert those into the template? If you go to the menu bar and select Account|Properties... you will be presented with a dialogue with a tree menu. Go to Templates and click on the +. You will then see the account templates. These will be used for the account folders by default, so they should contain the required macros. If they are blank, then one thing you could do is to create a new account and then copy the templates (simply by copying and pasting between the templates. It could be that you have a folder template (or perhaps an address book template, and you will find these under the properties for each folder (or address book) (the menu Folder:Properties). You can also cut and paste from another folder template, as above. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Deleted messages resurfacing when syncing
On Thursday, August 7, 2003, 2:08:39 PM, Steve M. Sawczyn wrote: Synchronizing seems to be working fine between my desktop and notebook, however, with regards to the Inbox, messages I've deleted seem to be resurfacing. Any idea why this is? Does the sync process just add mail -- what happens if I sort mail/delete mail, etc...? Synchronisation does not delete messages, but will add messages from the source machine (the installation at step 2) that are not on the destination (the installation at steps 1 and 3. If you have deleted messages on the destination (or moved them to another folder), but left them in the original locations on the source, they will be copied again, but not deleted. I tend to do synchs one way only to avoid this, and do an occasional backup of the pc installation and restore onto the laptop to match the message base and filter. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Another Q on the Worm (Blaster)
On Wednesday, August 13, 2003, 7:20:57 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: I can't run it at all, since i can for the life of me not find the system restore thing on my Win XP Pro. Where should i look for it? Cymantec said you should turn it off, but as i said i can't even find it, so i don't know if i've got it. According to Woody's Windows Watch, you should open the Task Manager and look at the Process list. If you have msblast.exe running then you are probably infected. The removal tool will remove the program from your system - ending the process will stop it until the next reboot. You can find the most recent version of Woody's Windows Watch (WWW #6.14 - Getting Blaster'd) at http://www.woodyswatch.com/windows/archtemplate.asp?6-14 which contains lots of information on Blaster and what you can do. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop
On Monday, August 4, 2003, 2:18:31 AM, Steve M. Sawczyn wrote: I'm just curious, do you not synchronize the laptop with the desktop when you return from traveling -- I'm trying to understand why you would leave mail on the server. Mainly because of the problems keeping filters up to date on both installations. The result can be that messages get into different folders on both machines, and this leads to duplicates. The other reason is a very practical one - laptops are relatively easy to loose or damage, so I would rather hold messages on the server for a few days so I can be sure that I get them on my desktop PC than depend on being able to synchronize from the Laptop. The other thing to remember with Synchronisation is that it is a one-way process - it makes the Installation A the same as Installation B, by moving messages that are not on A but are on B onto A. This means that to do a full synchronisation (matching both installations) you have to run it twice, making different machines the target and destination each time, if you see what I mean! Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with Replying
On Monday, August 4, 2003, 11:28:30 AM, Chris wrote: I'm having a problem with replying to messages in The Bat! The problem is that The Bat! will only include some of the original message in the reply - not all of the text. Is there an option to set how much of the text The Bat! includes in the reply, or is this some sort of bug? I want The Bat! to include all the text of the message I'm replying to, no matter how long it is. You don't say how you are replying, or what text is missing, but two things spring to mind: - TB! does not quote sigs in replies, so everything below the sig delimiter will be cut (-- ) - f4 only quotes the highlighted text. One way to get round the chopping of the sig is to use the %text macro in your reply template. This appears to quote the whole of the original text, including the text below the sig delimiter. If you changes the template you use for the list, don't forget you will need to manually trim your reply to get rid of the sig text, or use f4 on the text you want to reply to. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronizing between notebook and desktop
On Saturday, August 2, 2003, 10:23:38 PM, Allie Martin wrote: Filters will synchronize, as well as templates. However, basic interface configuration will not be synchronized since both systems may run at different resolutions. As a result, interface appearance settings have a high likelihood of being different. I have not found this to be the case. Synchronize will work on the message base and address books, but does not work on account settings and filters. I use synchronize regularly to keep my laptop and desktop up to date, so that I have all my messages when I travel, and ensure that I can collect mail when away (although I now use Leave Mail on Server for 2 days so I can collect mail later on the desktop machine. Every couple of months, I restore the laptop (which uses Xray to manage SMTP connections) from a backup of the Desktop installation and re-set up the accounts. In general it works well, but I do end up with duplicates, particularly because the filters don't copy. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Configure TB to run NAV 2003 in conjunction with Spampal
On Friday, August 1, 2003, 7:36:05 PM, Bareges wrote: What I can't resolve is how I incorporate the pop3.norton.antivirus that appears from my searching to be required for TB to activate AV. You don't need to. Norton scans email at the port level, so does it irrespective of the client email settings. If you send or receive mail and AntiVirus is enabled to scan mail, you will see the scan window appear. Older versions of AntiVirus required you to use AntiVirus as an email proxy, but not any longer. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
