DAVEH: Hey KevinGive Raymond his hat back ;-)
Bothoms wrote:
Thanks for the welcome, Izzy.
Hey, where's my hat...
ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Welcome
to TT Raymond--and hold onto your hat! Izzy
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DAVEH: Welcome to TT, Raymond! TT has a lot of nice folks here,
despite a few of them occasionally sharing their sincere negative
thoughts regarding LDS theology. If you want to gang up to do battle
with other TTers, you might want to count me out, as I prefer to avoid
conflicts whenever
Hi DaveH--
Thanks for the welcome. I'm for peaceful discussion, too. I am prepared to defend, though, if I have to. It's my hope to share and realized common ground with many in this group. They may not see eye to eye with me on everything, but if we can agree on some things and respect one
Bothoms wrote:
Hi DaveH--
Thanks for the welcome. I'm for peaceful discussion, too. I am
prepared to defend, though, if I have to. It's my hope to share and
realized common ground with many in this group. They may not see eye
to eye with me on everything, but if we can agree on some things
Hello Terry--
It's good to receive your post. Let me assure you that I do not believe in compromise. Compromise means I win a little and lose a little, also you win a little and lose a little. I believe in win/win situations. I do believe in common ground, though. Finding what we have in common,
Hello, Raymond. Welcome to Truth Talk. I have not yet had time to write a
response to your lengthy post below, but will get to it when I have time.
Perry Locke
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DAVEH: A..you must be young and much more full of energy
than this old Mormon boy!
If you think/hope you will get some respect for your views in TT,
good luck! For some, respect is not high on the priority list here.
Looking forward to more of your posts :-)
Welcome to TT Raymond--and hold onto your hat! Izzy
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BLAINE: Amen, Raymond
DAVEH: I do hope you are not implying Kevin would want to steal it,
Izzy!!! ;-)
ShieldsFamily wrote:
Welcome to TT Raymond--and hold onto your hat! Izzy
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If you wish to receive
things I find
Dont hold your breath, Raymond!
LOL!!! Izzy
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Hi DaveH--
Thanks for the welcome. I'm
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Hi DaveH--
Thanks for the welcome. I'm for peaceful discussion, too. I am prepared to defend, though, if I have to. It's my hope to share and realized common
Common ground: We're all human!
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dead?
Hi Izzy--
Don't worry, I'm still breathing. So,
should I take it that you
: [TruthTalk] Baptism 4 dead?
Hi Izzy--
Don't worry, I'm still breathing. So, should I take it that you don't believe that we can find common ground. Come'on, let's give it a try.
--RaymondShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dont hold your breath, Raymond! LOL!!! Izzy
From: [EMAIL
You asked where I live: New Mexico
As for respect -- I think it depends upon how much of the gospel is truly in there lives. We'll see.Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DAVEH: A..you must be young and much more full of energy than this old Mormon boy! If you think/hope you will
@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Baptism 4 dead?BLAINE: Amen, Raymond, Amen. We needed some new blood on TT. These guysbeen gangin' up on poor little ol' DaveH and me. (:--"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer ever
, Raymond. Welcome to Truth Talk. I have not yet had time to write a response to your lengthy post below, but will get to it when I have time.Perry LockeFrom: Bothoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Baptism 4 dead?Dat
You dont have to be human to be
breathing. Izzy
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Laance--
Hey, that's
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Perry: Like baptism for the dead. man-to-god. Secret names, grips, tokens,
and penalties. Dave, have you ever given any
Perry: Like baptism for the dead. man-to-god. Secret names, grips, tokens, and penalties. Dave, have you ever given any of the freemason, I mean mormon death signs? Dragging you thumb across your throat, chest, or abdomen, indicating what you agree will be done to you if you reveal what you
BLAINE: Amen, Raymond, Amen. We needed some new blood on TT. These guys been
gangin' up on poor little ol' DaveH and me. (:
Perry: Like baptism for the dead. man-to-god. Secret names, grips, tokens, and
penalties. Dave, have you ever given any of the freemason, I mean mormon
Hi Blaine--
It's good to be posting with you again. We make a good team. I also look forward to reading DaveH's posts. Are the three of us the only LDS here?
--Raymond"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BLAINE: Amen, Raymond, Amen. We needed some new blood on TT. These guys been gangin'
Christians do not follow cunningly devised fables, LDS do.
Nice exposition of such fables, such shows the great chasm between Christiuanity and mormonism.
Blaine you might want to put it in your own words instead of just cut N paste"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BLAINE: Amen,
Hi Kevin--
I'm an LDS Christian and I do not follow 'cunningly devised fables.' I would appreciate it if you explain yourself further. Do you think this is the difference between LDS Christians and non-LDS Christians? What 'cunningly devised fables' are you referring to? I would point out that
Blaine: Yes. Just three that post, although I believe there are others who
read the posts but are seldom active. DaveH has been here forever. He's a
pro. I have been here twice or so, sometimes get too busy to handle all the
volume. There are some very sincere Christians here, but
Blaine: Yes. Just three that post, although I believe there are others who
read the posts but are seldom active. DaveH has been here forever. He's a
pro. I have been here twice or so, sometimes get too busy to handle all the
volume. There are some very sincere Christians here, but
Hello Raymond"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Blaine: Yes. Just three that post, although I believe there are others who read the posts but are seldom active. DaveH has been here forever. He's a pro. I have been here twice or so, sometimes get too busy to handle all the volume. There
I know it is foriegn for LDS to testify of what God is DOing for them,
Fast testimony meetings are just a buch of LDS repeating the memorized Mantra of:
I know Joeseph Smith was a prophet
I know the Church is true
I know the BoM is true .
Doesn't God ever do anything exciting in your life?
DAVEH: You're forgetting that I'm a tired old Mormon boy, Kevin. Too
much excitement in my life can be risky. About all the excitement I
can handle anymore is watching the O'REILLY FACTOR every day, and
reading your TT posts. How close to the edge to you expect me to
get? :-D
Kevin Deegan
DAVEH:
Salvation experience? What is that?
Please explain.
Being saved from sin and from this world system. When a person is born from
above, born of the spirit and not just of the water, he experiences an
internal change. The burden of sin is lifted from him. Guilt is gone. He
feels as
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DAVEH: Have you ever attended an LDS service, Kevin? Perhaps you
should try attending one of our Fast Testimony meetings sometime.
They are usually held the first Sunday of each month.
I'm probably not as spiritual as many TTers
I guess that'd be a resounding but, diplomatic
NO.
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DAVEH: ??? I'm not sure I understand your
But Dave; the question is what is Jesus doing in your life right now??Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DAVEH: Have you ever attended an LDS service, Kevin? Perhaps youshould try attending one of our Fast Testimony meetings sometime.They are usually held the first Sunday of each month.
DAVEH: Did you expect me to answer any other way?
Lance Muir wrote:
I guess that'd be a resounding but,
diplomatic NO.
DAVEH: ??? I'm not sure I understand your question, Lance. Since I
believe LDS theology has much to offer that is not available elsewhere,
I see the
DAVEH: His love and grace are not sufficient for you, Kevin? I'm
pretty
happy (thankful might be a better way of saying it) with all he has
given me
including my family and the gospel. I even enjoy my TT
friendsmaybe
he wants me to be here as well.
Kevin Deegan wrote:
But Dave;
DAVEH: Have you ever attended an LDS service, Kevin? Perhaps you
should try attending one of our Fast Testimony meetings sometime.
They are usually held the first Sunday of each month.
I'm probably not as spiritual as many TTers. I think of Jesus as my
Elder Brother, who has shown me
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DAVEH: Have you ever attended an LDS service, Kevin? Perhaps you
should try attending one of our Fast Testimony meetings sometime.
They are usually held the first Sunday of each month.
I'm probably
David Miller wrote:
DAVEH wrote:
... while the resurrection was the point of Paul's discussion...
it was not the point of my posts on TT.
I understand that, but when you ask what Paul meant
DAVEH: I didn't ask what Paul meant.
and who these people
were,
DAVEH:
DAVEH: Oooopsmy apologies, DavidM and other
TTers. I just sent this before I competed it.sorry! I guess I
inadvertently hit SEND when I intended to click on SPELL CHECK. I am
too short on time now to finish it, but will try to get back to it
again next week.
Dave Hansen wrote:
DAVEH: I don't know if you've been reading all my posts lately DavidM,
but while the resurrection was the point of Paul's discussion...it was
not the point of my posts on TT.
As I see it, many Christians today believe that baptism is not a
necessary component of salvationwhereas I view
From: Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DAVEH: ... There are quite a few Bible passages that reveal more than
their obvious message. As do parables, many convey more than one message.
And when looked at from an oblique angle, I believe much can be learned
from looking beyond the explicit text.
DAVEH wrote:
... while the resurrection was the point of Paul's discussion...
it was not the point of my posts on TT.
I understand that, but when you ask what Paul meant and who these people
were, it is important to consider why Paul brought up this point about a
group of people who baptized
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DAVEH: You are losing me on this one, Kevin. Vs 3 says..
y*e should earnestly contend for the faith
Perry wrote:
Yes, I am aware of John MacArthur's biases.
Did you consider Zodhiates' position relative
to the translation of Hapax? He also indicates
that Hapax is used in a couple of different senses,
but specifically references Jude 3 as being one
of the instances similar to the
.
Perry
From: Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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DAVEH: While the gospel was delivered *once for all*, I don't interpret
that to mean *once AND for all
4: For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord." Perry
From: Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Trut
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Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:29:38 -0400
Perry wrote:
The NASB gives a clearer rendition of hapax
(clarifying, not reinterpreting) since hapax is
an aorist passive, indicating that the action
occurred once and will never occur again.
I am not a greek scholar; this description comes
DAVEH: No, KevinI don't. Wouldn't one expect supernatural events
to happen to those who are close to the Lord, and the veil is thin?
FWIWThose participating in Temple work do
not seek a conjuration of spirits, nor do they meet the definition
below you offered for necromancy.
Let me
DAVEH: I fail to see how your below definition of necromancy relates
to what PP said, Kevin.
necromancy
noun [U]
the practice of claiming to communicate
with the dead in order to discover what is going to happen in the
future, or black magic (= magic used for bad purposes)
Kevin wrote:
DAVEH: Where you going with this, Kevin? Are you suggesting Jesus
borrowed the baptismal rite from pagans??? Or do you think the below
mentioned pagans derived their baptismal beliefs from Primitive
Christianity?
Kevin wrote:
DAVEH: What ppl, Judy?
Do you know to whom Paul was referring?
DAVEH: You are losing me on this one, Kevin. Vs 3 says..
ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once
delivered unto the saints.
...in the KJV. What version are you using to get once for all?
Alsodo you think there was no further revelation from God after
Jude
Not goimg anywhere. You asked who (read Pagans just north of then city where Paul issued the letter) practised such.Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DAVEH: Where you going with this, Kevin? Are you suggesting Jesus borrowed the baptismal rite from pagans??? Or do you think the below mentioned
DaveH wrote:
Does it seem strange to you that he would use
the bizarre practices of a (presumably) forbidden
practice to teach a Christian principle?
The resurrection is not just a Christian principle. It is a principle found
in many religions. If I lived in ancient Egypt and was speaking
for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our
only Sovereign and Lord.
Perry
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Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 00:13:48 -0700
DAVEH: You are losing me on this one
DAVEH: Yes, I understand that many societies and religions believed in
an afterlife. That's not the point that makes this discussion
pertinentbut rather baptism. How many other non Christian
religions practice baptism would be a more interesting question to
consider. So how do you weigh
Perry wrote:
The NASB gives a clearer rendition of hapax
(clarifying, not reinterpreting) since hapax is
an aorist passive, indicating that the action
occurred once and will never occur again.
I am not a greek scholar; this description comes
from John MacArthur.
You really have to be
DAVEH:
Yes, I understand that many societies and religions
believed in an afterlife. That's not the point that
makes this discussion pertinentbut rather baptism.
Back up, Dave. Read the context of the passage. The resurrection is
EXACTLY the point that makes this discussion pertinent.
It is "one of the leading fundamental truths of Mormonism" (see quote)
Communing with the DEAD IN THE TEMPLE!Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DAVEH: How does that tie in to baptism for the dead, Kevin?Kevin Deegan wrote:
I think "hear from the dead" would qualify as communication!
Thus it is
So you have no problem with supernatural appearances inside the temple?
necromancy, n. conjuration of the spirits of the dead for purposes of magically revealing the future or influencing the course of events (Merriam Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, Tenth Edition)
Is the effort made for
Bizzare and unlawful.
It was practised by THOSE outside of the faith.
It is forbidden as practised by the LDS
The Bible is clear NO Communuion with the DEAD!
To change a LDS quote, it should be:
The living should NOT hear from the deadDave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DAVEH: Kevin, do you think
1 Co. Chapter 15: Verses 1,2,3,9,10,11,12,14,15,17,19 Contains FIRST Person pronouns, "we" "our" "you" "your" "ye", Paul is speaking to his Christian audience about things that pertain to them.
1 Co 15:29 Else what shall THEY do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why
Where then is the EVIDENCE that the people of the BoM KNEW of or practised baptism, let alone PROXY Baptism?
The Book of Mormon teaches baptism is a covenant for mortal life. Mosiah 18:13 And when he had said these words, the Spirit of the Lord was upon him, and he said, Helam, I baptize thee,
The Bible tells us to avoid foolish genealogical work.1 Tim 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.Titus 3:9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law;
DAVEH: What ppl, Judy? Do you know to whom Paul was referring?
Paul used Pagan authorities to teach and contrast as in the Pagan poet he quoted on Mars Hill. Just north of Corinth was a city named Eleusis. This was the location of a Pagan religion where baptism in the sea was practiced to
DAVEH: LOL.I guess your below revelation was the last
revelation intended specifically for you, Kevin! ;-)
Kevin Deegan wrote:
BLAINE It is ON-GOING REVELATION that Kevin does not
believe in. His theme is, as always, that revelation ceased with the
apostles' deaths. Can you or Kevin
DAVEH: Kevin, do you think baptism for the dead struck Paul as bizarre?
Kevin Deegan wrote:
CMON Blaine screw your head on right.
That is exactly what it is called Communication, that the living
should hear from the dead
Proxy baptism for dead folks, does not strike you as bizzarre?
--
Judy Taylor wrote:
Hi Blaine: The scripture that comes to
mindis Isaiah 8:20 which (to paraphrase) says that doctrine can not
conflict with what has already been revealed in the law and the
prophets - baptizing for the dead certainly isn't part of that. Paul
was referring (1Cor
DAVEH: HmmmIs that really your answer to my specific
question, Kevin? If so, I do not understand how your answer relates to
Paul. I would prefer to think you simply went off on a tangent in
your explanation, rather than trying to dodge my question. Would you
be so kind as to
It is Necromancy that is bizzareDave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DAVEH: HmmmIs that really your answer to my specific question, Kevin? If so, I do not understand how your answer relates to Paul. I would prefer to think you simply went off on a tangent in your explanation, rather than
DAVEH: Ah..Thank you for your specific answer to my question,
Kevin. I apologize for responding in a parallel post tonight
requesting clarification on your answer.
Soyou think Paul thought it to be bizarre behavior. Does it
seem strange to you that he would use the bizarre
I think "hear from the dead" would qualify as communication!
Thus it is Necromancy.
Apostle Parley Pratt "An important point is gained, a victory won, and a countless host of opposing powers vanquished, on one of the leading fundamental truths of Mormonism. That the living may hear from the dead.
DAVEH: How does that tie in to baptism for the dead, Kevin?
Kevin Deegan wrote:
I think "hear from the dead" would qualify as communication!
Thus it is Necromancy.
Apostle Parley Pratt "An important point is
gained, a victory won, and a countless host of opposing powers
vanquished,
DAVEH: You must define it differently than the dictionary I use..
necromancy
noun [U]
the practice of claiming to communicate with the dead in order to
discover what is going to happen in the future, or black magic (= magic
used for bad purposes)
..How does the above definition
NECROMANCY BAPTISM is essential for the faith?
C'MON Blaine
1 Co. Chapter 15: Verses 1,2,3,9,10,11,12,14,15,17,19 Contains FIRST Person pronouns, "we" "our" "you" "your" "ye", Paul is speaking to his Christian audience about things that
pertain to them.
1 Co 15:29 Else what shall THEY do which
Kevin, can you believe it? It's Blaine who has
been reading Augustine on the side and now here he is trying
to make a doctrine out of one scripture..
:-)
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 04:47:20 -0700 (PDT) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
NECROMANCY BAPTISM is essential for the faith?
C'MON
Judy wrote:
Kevin, can you believe it? It's Blaine who has been reading Augustine on the
side and now here he is trying
to make a doctrine out of one scripture.. :-)
BLAINE: I like your little smilie, Judy. That means you are trying to be
nice, huh? (:) But seriously, it is a
In what verse was Nicodemus born of water???
ANSWER: _
Was Jesus trying to trick us? Why did he not say whoever is baptised will not perish
JN 3:15-16 whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only
BLAINE It is ON-GOING REVELATION that Kevin does not believe in. His theme is, as always, that revelation ceased with the apostles' deaths. Can you or Kevin furnish me with any scripture that substantiates this false--VERY false--doctrine?
I just got a revelation that revelation has ceased"[EMAIL
BLAINE: Where did Kevin get such a fancy--and inappropriate--word? This
word--necromancy--refers to communicating with the DEAD. Notice the emphasis
on the word, DEAD.
Joseph Smith's doctrine of baptism for the dead did not come from the single
passage in 1 Corinthians 15:29. The
BLAINE: Where did Kevin get such a fancy--and inappropriate--word? This word--necromancy--refers to communicating with the DEAD. Notice the emphasis on the word, "DEAD."
CMON Blaine screw your head on right.
That is exactly what it is called Communication, "that the living should hear from the
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BLAIN wrote: Now, who is trying to make a doctrine from a single scripture?
Kevin, maybe? The doctrine of Baptism, and it's being necessary for
one's salvation, is made clear--very clear--in various places. None more
clearly though than when the Lord
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BLAINE: It is ON-GOING REVELATION that Kevin does not believe in. His
theme is, as always, that revelation ceased with the apostles' deaths. Can
you or Kevin furnish me with any scripture that substantiates this
false--VERY false--doctrine?
Blaine,
"For he is not a man that he should repent"
obviously refers to his being above mortal need to repent--does not say anything
about what he looks like.
"God is not a man, that he should lie," Again, this
is just saying God does not share mortal bad habits, such as lying. Says
nada about
Blaine, when you quote scripture or extra-biblical works, please give the reference.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]What about Revelation
1: 13-16? Here we see an actual descriptiuon ofthe glorified
resurrected Christ, as he appeared to John the BelovedApostle, on the Isle
of Patmos. He had a voice, he had hair, he hadpaps, he wore clothing,
he had hands, he had feet., etc. Does
Sorry Blaine, but God did not say One of the things I am is a spirit. He
also did not say,I am a man with a spirit. In Fact, if you will turn to
1st. Samuel,15:29, you will find God making it very clear that He is not a
man. If that leaves any doubt, you might also look at Numbers, 23:19.
Terry
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 05:51:16 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Was it a ceremony, in the Temple?
A Temple sealing to a man? I thought they stopped those years ago.
Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DAVEH: Forgive me for jumping into this discussion, Kevin. I don't
have a
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:41:42 -0600 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
See John 4:24. God is a Spirit.
Terry
**BlaineRB: Terry, I am also a spirit. Just as you are too. This has
nothing to say about what else we are--our bodies are the temples of our
spirit selves. As Jesus said,
Not Just a man--but definitely man-like in form. See below:
Genesis 1:26-27
26. And God said, Let us make man in our own image, after our likeness
27. So God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He
him, male and female created he them.
The living Christ is a glorified man,
See John 4:24. God is a Spirit.
Terry
Not Just a man--but definitely man-like in form. See below:
Genesis 1:26-27
26. And God said, Let us make man in our own image, after our likeness
27. So God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He
him, male and female created
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Not
Just a man--but definitely man-like in form. See below:
Judy: God is Spirit so Genesis 1:26,27 does
notrefer to a physical
form;when Jesus said "If you have seen me you
have seen the Father"
he was also making referenceto the 'Spiritual'
since He walked in a
DAVEH: Forgive me for jumping into this discussion, Kevin.
I don't have a lot of time, but just wanted you to know that I am sealed
to my son, and do not find it a problem. Furthermore, I'm sealed
to my father (as well as mother, and my daughter). When I get to
heaven, I expect being sealed to
Hi Blaine, you write:
I have been impressed with your thoughts, always expressed with a grain of
charity.
SEX? Well, I can't recall where they said anything about it in
the Bible.
Judy: You don't remember the Saducees asking Jesus
about what would happen if
seven men (brothers) all
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton
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Dead part of gospel?
Terry, can you tell us how your wife prevailed with
you? (She probably just dazzled you with her beauty!) Izzy
Blaine:
I was not talking about your comment concerning sex within
marriage. I always have been and continue to be an avid proponent and
participant of that very practice.
I was referring to your looking at your God and creator as
just a man. Wake up! Some day soon you will
Was it a ceremony, in the Temple?A Temple sealing to a man? I thought they stopped those years ago.
Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DAVEH: Forgive me for jumping into this discussion, Kevin. I don't have a lot of time, but just wanted you to know that I am sealed to my son, and do not find it a
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Was it a ceremony, in the Temple?
DAVEH: Yes.it was in the Temple.
(I assume you are asking me this question about my comment below.)
A Temple sealing to a man?
DAVEH: To my father, and to my son.
I thought they stopped those years ago.
Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
ShieldsFamily wrote:
Oh,
DaveHdont go!!! Thered be nothing left of me but whiskers!!! Izzy
DAVEH:
You'd still have your cheshire smile, Izzy! G>
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Izzy wrote:
Oh, DaveHdont go!!! Thered be nothing left of me but whiskers!!! Izzy
Dean writes:
DaveH -Please Go-Hurry and leave-Don't leave mad just leave. We
will find something else to talk about :-)
DAVEH: Aww schucks, Dean. I detect a hint of brotherly love
there...
DAVEH: Do you think hopeless guys like me should not be admitted
to TT? Or, are you OK with folks who think differently posting regularly?
Terry wrote:
Heaven forbid! You need a good influence in
your life, and Dean and I would get very bored very soon with no
one but Izzy to pick on.
Terry
Brother Dean:
A man I used to go on visitation with years ago gave me some excellent advice. He said, "You have to expect lost people to act like lost people".
I now offer that advice to you. Don't see them as refusing to do what they need to do, or what you want them to do.
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