So even satan and osama bin laden are in
Christ in your opinion? iz
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IF it were the same
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So, no scripture. Thanks for the
admission. Outer space? John 3:21 He
who
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writes:
So even satan and
osama bin laden are in Christ in your opinion?
iz
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-- in Him (see Eph 1.10).
Bill
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So even satan and
osama bin laden are in Christ in your opinion?
iz
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Excuse me but isn't it pantheism when God and the
creation are one and the same?
Our God is transcendent, that is, above and apart
from the Creation. Only the New
Creation
I fixed a typo.
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Col 1.16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and
that are on earth, visible and invisible
udy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:54:01 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death
There is scripture JD, Izzy may not have had time right now to find it.
Jesus spells it out for us in John 3:31:
"He
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 02:22:23 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As I see it, they didn't. "Death" in Genesis only refers to physical death.
I cannot think of anything that book that conflicts with that statement.JD
jt: I can JD - Look at the "mystery of godliness" in the 2nd Adam (1 Timothy
lol-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 11:49:15 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death
Butwe know Kevin don't we that interpretation is not the same as
"translation"
I cannot think of anything that book that conflicts with that statement.JD
Well.
That settles it then.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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As I see it, they didn't. "Death" in Genesis only refers to physical death.
I cannot think of
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Col 1.16
For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth,
visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or
powers. All things were created
Izzy asks Do you have a
biblical term that expresses mans spiritual condition
prior to receiving Christ as Savior and Lord?
Okay, I willaddress your question and then try
to summarize my position. I chose not to answer your question for the following
reason: implicit in your wording
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JD, I give you scripture (You must be born again, for example) and then you tell me it doesn?t count because there was a better translation meaning another thin
That would be the word "dead" or the phrase " dead already" -- kind of like your discussion with Bill at this point.
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I prefer "you're right again, John" to "that settlesit," but I will take what I can get.
Jed-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 20:15:00 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual dea
JD writes:
II Co 5:10 (perhaps) makes it clear that what we call "spiritual death"
includes man in total - and it is for this reason that even his deeds done
IN THE BODY will be considered - if he has rejected
the reconciliation offered to him (IMO). Disciples of Christ are not so
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On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:52:00 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:1. No one is talking about corpse or cadaver.
jt: Your friend has spoken of both in the past JD, you must have overlooked it.
Ask him. Let's put some money on it Jud
There is a ton ofscripture ont his one, Judy, but it is late and I need my beauty sleep.
JD-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 02:01:28 -0400Subject: [TruthTalk] Spiritual Death
JD writes:
II Co 5:10 (perhaps
Well then get back to me when you are beautified JD and
we can talk about it :)
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There is a ton ofscripture ont his one, Judy, but it is late and I
need my beauty sleep. JDFrom: Judy
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: [TruthTalk] Spiritual Death
Well then get back to me when you are beautified JD and we can talk about it :)
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 02:24:21 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There is a ton ofscripture ont his one, Judy, but it is late and I need my beauty sleep. JDFrom: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED
The same Bill who wrote:
"I also know that I am not as good a
communicator as I want to be and ought to be, and so I keep trying to better my
skills in that area and admit in the meantime my deficiencies."
Now writes:
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Satan comes as an angel of light deceiving
with miracles also.
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I do
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As I see it, they didn't. "Death" in Genesis only refers to
physical death.
I cannot think of anything that book that conflicts with that
statement.JD
jt: I can JD - Look at the "mystery of godliness" in
the 2nd Adam (1 Timothy
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I’m glad you agree
Blaine. I await your born again
experience with anticipation.
izzy
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Iâm glad you agree Blaine. I await your
Bill in Black
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Satan comes as an angel of light deceiving with miracles also.
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Bill in Black
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Footnotes in the New King James and NASV show born "from above"
to be a viable translation and my Brown/Comfort Greek interlinear
English translation actually uses "born from above" rather than "born
again."
JD
Nice, base your eternal destiny on a footnote.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual deathDate: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 19:50:13 -0400Footnotes in the New King James and NASV show born "from above" to be a viable
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Nice, base your eternal destiny on a footnote.
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Well, what do you know. Billy T is right again!!
JD-Original Message-From: Charles Perry Locke cpl2602@hotmail.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 19:02:22 -0700Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death
I couldn't help but to whip out
Click here: Press Release - Death Threats from Muslims Students
Yes, if you believe
JSmith I'd have a hard time believing you. iz
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Spiritual death
Blainerb--Since I don't fully
BT:As
it pertains to the question of "regeneration" and being "born again," the
church, and especially the "rivalist" (Revivalist)
Yikes! thanks, no offence intended. Perhaps this was one
of those Freudian slips :)
Iz:Yup, probably. :-)
BT:The
One or two more things to consider in this ongoing
thread about "spiritual death" - Since some believe this
term to be unscriptural and/or metaphoric in nature - should we first run it by
some theologians to make sure we have it right? The answer is NO!
It is totally unprofitable to take
Judy Taylor wrote:
One or two more things to consider in this
ongoing thread about "spiritual death" - Since
some believe this term to be unscriptural and/or metaphoric in nature -
should we first run it by some theologians to make sure we have it
right? The answer is NO! It is
ory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 06:31:07 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death
One or two more things to consider in this ongoing thread about "spiritual death" - Since some believe this term to be unscriptural and/or metaphoric in nature - should we fi
Im glad you agree Blaine. I await your born again experience
with anticipation. izzy
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Neither was the word perichoresis
or trinity or a thousand other terms. Does that mean Bill
never uses them? iz
2. Bill's
point is that spiritual death is a term not found in the Bible
although such wording was available to the various authors.
JD
Bill,
When I ask what difference does it make if I understand this or not? I
am asking relative to salvation. Does my knowing what spiritual death is
or is not affect the thou shalt be saved part?
The answer is no. There are many who have and will live and die without
ever hearing the
In a message dated 7/26/2005 8:51:11 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
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Do I miss the point? The body, soul, mind and
spirit are so integral to each other as to be without
separation. If we are alive , we are alive in
total. If we are dead, we are dead in
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:52:00 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
1. No one is talking about corpse or cadaver.
jt: Your friend has spoken of both in the past JD,
you must have overlooked it.
2. Bill's point is that
"spiritual death" is a term not found in the Bible although
Amen, Perry. Even little children are saved. iz
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Bill,
When I ask what
Blainerb: What I hear Kevin saying is
that hewants to eat, drink and be merry, but still be saved.He
wants to have his cake and eat it too. His doctrinethat all who
confess Christ go to heaven basically means there is no hell for Christians,
just for others who did not confess Christ,
In a message dated 7/27/2005 8:54:23 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
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I’m glad you agree
Blaine.
I await your born again experience with anticipation.
izzy
That happened, as I remember it, when some of my relatives
gathered together one night and recounted
Please tell me, though, if you can
the answer to my question: How
is one regenerated if one was not dead in the first place? Thanks for your patience. izzy
I
will do that, Izzy, as best I can, but I would like to first address something
else you said, and then use that as a segue into a
Miracles or occultism?
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In a message dated 7/27/2005 8:54:23 A.M.
Mountain
Izzy is red:
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Please tell me, though, if you can the answer to my
question: How is one
What I hear Kevin saying is that hewants to eat, drink and be merry, but still be saved.
I guess you better listen more closely.
This traditional Christian faith is not just narrow, but extremely so.The samepsychology was what led to Black slaves beingdefined as soulless, to Jews beingscapegoated,
Youmay have something here -- I don't know .But thanks for your input.
Jd-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 10:49:07 EDTSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death
In a message dated 7/26/2005 8:51:11 P.M. Mountain Standard
A very thoughtful post, Perry. And much ofit very agreeable.
JD-Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:34:34 -0500Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death
Amen, Perry. Even little children are saved. iz
: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death
Miracles or occultism?
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In a message dated 7/27/2005 8:54:23 A.M. Mountain
This traditional Christian faith is not just narrow, but extremely so.
Don't you just hate those Narrow Minded Christians?
Who was it that said?
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because
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Neither was the word ?perichoresis? or ?trinity? or a thousand other terms. Does that mean Bill never uses them
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:52:00 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
1. No one is talking about corpse or cadaver.
jt: Your friend has spoken of both in the past JD, you must have overlooked it.
Ask him. Let's put some money on it Judy. No one is talking about cadaver's. but monologue if you
Where in scripture do we pray Jesus into our lives???
JD-Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:47:26 -0500Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death
Izzy is red:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL
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From:
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1. No one is talking about corpse or cadaver.
sage -
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On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:52:00 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:1. No
one is talking about corpse or cadaver.
jt: Your friend has spoken of both in the past JD, you
must have overlooked it.
Ask him. Let's put some money on it Judy. No one is
talking about cadaver's. but monologue if you
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 23:13:18 -0600 "Bill Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mar 12.30 'And you shall love the LORD your God with all your
heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.'
This is the first commandment.
I told Izzy that I thought there
Now you and Bill are contradicting each other JD.
Why not just allow God's Word to do the defining. If you
would
rather call it "dead in trespass and sin" we can do
that, but it is still a death that is in another dimension (other
than
physical that is). jt
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 01:11:52
jt: You have added the requirement of being born again
to the mix Bill when this is impossible under the Law. However, God is a
covenant God andppl who lived under the Old
Covenant or even before that who worshipped and served him with what was
available to them (like Job) He
Please don't be offended then if I point out that "two
deaths" is no more of a Biblical term than "spiritual death"
your objection to which began this thread. IMO
your definitionis veryconfusing because a person who is
dead
in sin and trespasses is still able to function
mentally as well
Neither - Bill is the one asking for a tutor. He
is concerned for the wrong person.
Talk with him. jt
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Who is your choice, Judy - me or G?
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Would someone else
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Now you and Bill are contradicting each other JD. Why not just allow God's Word to do the defining. If you would
rather call it "dead in trespass and sin" we can do that, but it is still a death that is in another dimension
od to be their Father (the "Lord's Prayer"), He was, in fact, preaching the reconciliation of all things unto Hi
mself in the body of His flesh.
JD -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 26 J
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Impossible under the law? Whatdoes this
mean?
It means that thePromise of the Father
who does the work and the sealing was not sent until after the death
burial and resurrection of Christ.
Jesus was sent as
:
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Taylor
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Mar 12.30 'And
Are you Perry? I didn't think so.
bill
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jt: You have added
were dead. The cross stands as that which gave them
life. Bill
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I have not one time claimed that Jesus' st
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I have not one time claimed that Jesus'
statement pertained to physically de
is your confusion, Judy -- not mine. If you are so base as to draw that
conclusion, how are you competent to draw any conclusions?
Bill
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Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Bill, the reason they arent serving
God with their mind, body, soul is because they are spiritually separated from
Him (deadnot physically but spiritually!). Izzy
I told
Izzy that I thought there was aspiritual element included in Jesus'
statement: Follow me, and let the
the help you can give her, but please don't digress. That
only adds further confusion to the discussion.
Bill
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Bill,
Spiritual death is as much a reality as is
physical death. Do you agree? (Please answer.)
It means spiritual separation from Godhell
bound. Jesus just called it dead. Would you prefer that we call
people dead like Jesus did, rather than clarifying which type of death we are
Would you like it better if I said Dead
to the things of God??? iz
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Bill, the reason
Izzy in red:
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Bill, the reason they arent serving
God with their mind, body, soul
ed Him"
The cross stands as that which gave them life. Bill
jt: The cross always represents death.
judyt
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eldsFamily
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Bill, the reason
they arent serving God with their mind, body, soul is because they are
spiritually separated from
Bill you also wrote:
Neither of you seem to "get it" that "spiritual death" is not biblicallanguage; it is a doctrine which speaks
to biblical concepts; it is asynthesis, a
conclusion. You have picked up on the language of thisdoctrine, but
the concepts that it represents are treated
Got pay ??? -Original Message-From: Bill Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 09:45:31 -0600Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death
The prison is in lock-down today -- some kind of weapons violation; hence no one goes in and no one comes out
Bill wrote The cross stands as that which gave them life.
jt: The cross always represents death. judyt
He died that we might live..that's life as opposed to death
He has reconciled all things unto Himself -- and in Him is the word, LIFE and
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Bill,
Spiritual death is as
much a reality as is physical death. Do you agree? (Please
, 2005 10:22
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Would you like it
better if I said Dead to the things of God???
iz
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Izzy in
red:
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Bill you also wrote:
Neither of you seem to "get it" that "spiritual death" is not biblicallanguage; it is a doctrine which speaks
to biblical concepts; it is asynthesis, a
conclusion. You have picked up on the lang
] Spiritual
death
Got pay ??? -Original
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The prison is in lock-down today -- some
kind of weapons
I'll correct some typos below.
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On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:12:33 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bill wrote The cross stands as that
which gave them life.
jt: The cross
always represents death. judyt
jd writes:
He died that we might
live..that's life as opposed to death
He has
Bill writes:
This term is either an unbiblical doctrine(cf. as set forth in the Augustinian/Calvinist position) or it is metaphorical language and as such it is representative of something else, which may be real (cf.
this has been your position).In reality, and this is my position, it is
Please do not respond to the comments I make to
other people, Judy. I will show the same courtesy to you.
Bill
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 2:46
PM
Subject: [TruthTalk] Spiritual
Death
her people, Judy. I will show the same courtesy to you.
Bill
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 2:46
PM
Subject: [TruthTalk] Spiritual
Death
Bill writes:
mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 15:44:06 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual death
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:12:33 -0400 knpraise@aol.com writes:
Bill wrote The cross stands as that which gave them life.
jt: The cross always represents death. judyt
jd write
: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 3:02
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spiritual
Death
If you don't want a public response Bill then you
will need to write to them off-line.
I will show the same courtesy when I desire
privacy. judyt
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:53:45 -0600 "Bill Taylor&qu
There is a whole spirit realm out there that probably 90% of professing christendom is ignorant about
Well, at least you admit just how out of step you are in this discussion between Bill and , and, I have forgotten. JD
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 17:09:28 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Again, I am just amazed that you
would argue this point with BT.
I know of absolutely no on who would correct
BT on this : "the cross stands as that which gave them life."
. Life as a result of the cross??? You want "evidence"
jt: The jury is out on that JD
We will see who is left standing and who Jesus calls an
overcomer at the end. judyt
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 17:26:27 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There is a whole
spirit realm out there that probably 90% of professing christendom is ignorant
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 17:09:28 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Again, I am just amazed that you would argue this point with BT. I know of absolutely no on who would correct BT on this : "the cross stands as that which gave them life." . Life as a result of the cross??? You want "evidence" of
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 17:09:28 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Again, I am just amazed that
you would argue this point with BT. I know of absolutely no on who would correct BT on this : "the cross stands as that which
gave them life." . Life as a result of the cross???
You
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