Hi Kevin--
Kevin: The WHOLE Mormon argument is you are missing something.
Raymond: I disagree, our position centers around Jesus Christ restoring His Church and gospel to the Earth in the Latter-days. "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of
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Blaine: Kevin, WHY do you write all this voluminous stuff? Do you really think I or anyone else has time to read it? I read your short to-the-point messages, but . . . with time being of the essence, I could not possibly read all this, much less reply to it. Former
Bothoms wrote:
Hi DaveH--
Thanks for the welcome. I'm for peaceful discussion, too. I am
prepared to defend, though, if I have to. It's my hope to share and
realized common ground with many in this group. They may not see eye
to eye with me on everything, but if we can agree on some things
Hello Terry--
It's good to receive your post. Let me assure you that I do not believe in compromise. Compromise means I win a little and lose a little, also you win a little and lose a little. I believe in win/win situations. I do believe in common ground, though. Finding what we have in common,
Hello, Raymond. Welcome to Truth Talk. I have not yet had time to write a
response to your lengthy post below, but will get to it when I have time.
Perry Locke
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DAVEH: A..you must be young and much more full of energy
than this old Mormon boy!
If you think/hope you will get some respect for your views in TT,
good luck! For some, respect is not high on the priority list here.
Looking forward to more of your posts :-)
Welcome to TT Raymond--and hold onto your hat! Izzy
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BLAINE: Amen, Raymond
He posts it because the Word of the Lord has the power to save the
lost--even you. Izzy
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DAVEH: I do hope you are not implying Kevin would want to steal it,
Izzy!!! ;-)
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Welcome to TT Raymond--and hold onto your hat! Izzy
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If you wish to receive
things I find
to hell it will be
because they rejected the real Jesus and His real Word in preference to the fictional
lies of JS.
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Dont hold your breath, Raymond!
LOL!!! Izzy
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dead?
Hi DaveH--
Thanks for the welcome. I'm
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Hi DaveH--
Thanks for the welcome. I'm for peaceful discussion, too. I am prepared to defend, though, if I have to. It's my hope to share and realized common
Common ground: We're all human!
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dead?
Hi Izzy--
Don't worry, I'm still breathing. So,
should I take it that you
: [TruthTalk] Baptism 4 dead?
Hi Izzy--
Don't worry, I'm still breathing. So, should I take it that you don't believe that we can find common ground. Come'on, let's give it a try.
--RaymondShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dont hold your breath, Raymond! LOL!!! Izzy
From: [EMAIL
The WHOLE Mormon argument is you are missing something.
You need further revelation your Bible is incomplete, in error and lacking in the truth
You have the Bible BUT do you have the Book of Mormon? (Like the recent TV add)
You need Joe Smith
You need the priesthood
You need the Temple
etc.
So
How about answering the questions
ACCORDING to COLOSIANS 2:
Have you recieved Christ? What exactly doesrecieving Himmean, Dave?
What does the text mean when it says "you being DEAD"?
Have you been buried with him in baptism?
Have you risen with him thru THE FAITH?
What is this Blotting out of
You asked where I live: New Mexico
As for respect -- I think it depends upon how much of the gospel is truly in there lives. We'll see.Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DAVEH: A..you must be young and much more full of energy than this old Mormon boy! If you think/hope you will
@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Baptism 4 dead?BLAINE: Amen, Raymond, Amen. We needed some new blood on TT. These guysbeen gangin' up on poor little ol' DaveH and me. (:--"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer ever
Terry: If not for the street preachers who take the trouble on TT and elsewhere to teach the truth, I would not have known just how screwed up your religion was. Who would have ever imagined holy skivvies? With pictures yet!
Raymond: There are outer garments worn in the temple and under garments
Bothoms wrote:
Raymond: There are outer garments worn in the temple and under
garments worn daily. There are no pictures on them. These garments
are sacred to us because they remind us of the covenants which we make
with the Lord in His temples.
Holey skivvies with masonic emblems on them...the square and the compass.
Tools of the craft.
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Terry
Holey skivvies with masonic emblems on them...the square and the compass.
Tools of the craft.
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Terry
H... It's clear that you are in attack mode. But I would have you know that there major difference between masonic rituals and LDS temple ceremony. Although, you wouldn't know that would you. The teachings in the temple have nothing to do with 'Tools of the craft.' You've been reading to much
Terry--
Somenon-LDS Christiansinsist that these things are secret. They are not secret -- otherwise, why would I be willing to discuss these things. But you must understand that these things are of a highly sacred nature; therefore, I will not discuss them in detail. As to the 'designs' that you
, Raymond. Welcome to Truth Talk. I have not yet had time to write a response to your lengthy post below, but will get to it when I have time.Perry LockeFrom: Bothoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Baptism 4 dead?Dat
Bothoms wrote:
Terry--
Some non-LDS Christians insist that these things are secret. They are
not secret -- otherwise, why would I be willing to discuss these
things. But you must understand that these things are of a highly
sacred nature; therefore, I will not discuss them in detail. As to
Terry--
I can understand you viewpoint, but please realize thatIbelieve these teachings to be trueotherwise they would have no part in my life. I do appreciate your concern for my spiritual well being. I also have concern for your spiritual well being. If you think that I'm in error, I'm willing
Bothoms wrote:
Terry--
I can understand you viewpoint, but please realize that I believe
these teachings to be true otherwise they would have no part in my
life. I do appreciate your concern for my spiritual well being. I
also have concern for your spiritual well being. If you think that
Terry--
When it comes to the beliefs of my Church (what you call Mormonism), what is your biggest grievence? and why?
--RaymondTerry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bothoms wrote: Terry-- I can understand you viewpoint, but please realize that I believe these teachings to be true otherwise they
You dont have to be human to be
breathing. Izzy
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Laance--
Hey, that's
I cant say that I respect your
beliefs, Raymondonly your right to have them. Izzy
I also ask that you, at least respect my beliefs, even if you choose to
disagree.
--Raymond
That's what I meant.ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I cant say that I respect your beliefs, Raymondonly your right to have them. Izzy
I also ask that you, at least respect my beliefs, even if you choose to disagree.
--Raymond
Bothoms wrote:
Terry--
When it comes to the beliefs of my Church (what you call
Mormonism), what is your biggest grievence? and why?
--Raymond
Several things really. I guess the most troublesome is that you
believe that Jesus and Satan are or were brothers. I do not understand
why
But I would have you know that there major difference between masonic rituals and LDS temple ceremony.
What are these Major differences? There would seem to be many similarities.
Aprons
symbols
handshakes
secrets (sacred in Mormon lingo)
oaths
and on on onBothoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Perry: Like baptism for the dead. man-to-god. Secret names, grips, tokens,
and penalties. Dave, have you ever given any
Perry: Like baptism for the dead. man-to-god. Secret names, grips, tokens, and penalties. Dave, have you ever given any of the freemason, I mean mormon death signs? Dragging you thumb across your throat, chest, or abdomen, indicating what you agree will be done to you if you reveal what you
, or get puffed up about any of it. So
I guess I dont understand your question. Im glad you are here,
however, DaveH. Izzy
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BLAINE: Amen, Raymond, Amen. We needed some new blood on TT. These guys been
gangin' up on poor little ol' DaveH and me. (:
Perry: Like baptism for the dead. man-to-god. Secret names, grips, tokens, and
penalties. Dave, have you ever given any of the freemason, I mean mormon
Hi Blaine--
It's good to be posting with you again. We make a good team. I also look forward to reading DaveH's posts. Are the three of us the only LDS here?
--Raymond"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BLAINE: Amen, Raymond, Amen. We needed some new blood on TT. These guys been gangin'
Christians do not follow cunningly devised fables, LDS do.
Nice exposition of such fables, such shows the great chasm between Christiuanity and mormonism.
Blaine you might want to put it in your own words instead of just cut N paste"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BLAINE: Amen,
Hi Kevin--
I'm an LDS Christian and I do not follow 'cunningly devised fables.' I would appreciate it if you explain yourself further. Do you think this is the difference between LDS Christians and non-LDS Christians? What 'cunningly devised fables' are you referring to? I would point out that
Blaine: Yes. Just three that post, although I believe there are others who
read the posts but are seldom active. DaveH has been here forever. He's a
pro. I have been here twice or so, sometimes get too busy to handle all the
volume. There are some very sincere Christians here, but
Blaine: Yes. Just three that post, although I believe there are others who
read the posts but are seldom active. DaveH has been here forever. He's a
pro. I have been here twice or so, sometimes get too busy to handle all the
volume. There are some very sincere Christians here, but
Hello Raymond"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Blaine: Yes. Just three that post, although I believe there are others who read the posts but are seldom active. DaveH has been here forever. He's a pro. I have been here twice or so, sometimes get too busy to handle all the volume. There
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Blaine, FYI you are not one who is in a position to determine who is/isn't a
Christian, since you aren't one. Therefore, I, being
Terry wrote:
I have read this verse many times, but evidently I
cannot grasp it as well as Izzy and Dave H.
What would constitute evidence of things we cannot
see?
There is physical sight and spiritual sight. Faith is spiritual sight.
Therefore, faith is evidence of reality that not
David Miller wrote about the thief on the cross:
How do you know that he was not baptized before
he was crucified, much like some of the men on
death row today?
Kevin wrote:
If he was Baptised before accepting Jesus,
what then was he Baptised into?
My point is that perhaps he had accepted
John 5:24, "Verily, verily, I say onto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life."
Who has eternal life in this verse?
What exactly tells you John 3 WATER=BAPTISM
Do you always
The BIBLE IS CLEAR SALVATION IS BY FAITH"That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life" John 3:15-16.
"He that believeth on him
Titus 3:5-6 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he SAVED us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; THAT BEING JUSTIFIED BY HIS GRACE...
What is this washing is it
The discussion is:
Is Baptism a REQUIREMENT for entrance into Heaven?
What is your answer?David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David Miller wrote about the thief on the cross: How do you know that he was not baptized before he was crucified, much like some of the men on death row today?Kevin
Oh, No!!! Like ants at a picnic!!! :-) Izzy
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-it would be fun to have a bunch of dedicated MORMONS on with Dave Hansen
and myself!!!
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how you ought to answer every man.
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BLAINE: As I have said many times before, Kevin has his own religion, which
is not Christian. He selects obscure passages that justify his vanity. Hey
Kevin, why did Jesus insist on being baptized
Is the word ALL used in the absolute sense here?
Col 2:3 In whom are hid ALL the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth ALL the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perry wrote: Doesn't 'ALL' always mean 'ALL'?The word "all" has a range of
DAVEH: I understand your dislike of JS and LDS theology, Izzy. But I
don't understand your reluctance to discuss Christian theology. Why
belong to TT if you don't want to discuss such things?
As for me discussing LDS stuffthat's not why I'm here.
Everybody seems to think that is what I
From: Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DAVEH: Perry, you need to wipe the fog off your crystal ball. Your mind
reading abilities are as foggy as your logical thinking relating to the ALL
discussion. :-)
Contrary to your belief, I don't need any wiggle room at all to feel
comfortable with
Dave,
It is not what we have in common that is the problem...it is what we do
NOT have in common.
DAVEH: So you have no interest in discussing theology in an effort to see
what we might believe in common?
Cpl: Not Really. I have an interest in exposing the error called mormonism.
DAVEH: To
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DAVEH: Do you want to discuss theology,
Izzy?ShieldsFamily wrote:
DaveH, Im just
wondering something. What if you were given absolute proof that
J.Smith was a fraud? Would you still choose to believe in Mormonism?
Izzy
DAVEH: Humility?
It is Bible!
Col 2 Speaking of Jesus Christ:
In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words. ... As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: ... Beware lest any man spoil
that J.Smith was a fraud? Would you still choose to believe in Mormonism? Izzy
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DAVEH: Humility?Kevin Deegan wrote:
I
So DaveH please tells us the virtues of finding the things we have in common.Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DAVEH: Do you want to discuss theology, Izzy?ShieldsFamily wrote:
DaveH, Im just wondering something. What if you were given absolute proof that J.Smith was a fraud? Would
Wherefore, because that ye have a Bible ye need not suppose that it contains ALL MY WORDS; neither need ye suppose that I have not caused more to be written.
Enticing words?
Come here I have candy kid, try some.Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DAVEH: Perry, you need to wipe the fog off your
What is this Mormon preoccupation with finding all the things we have in common?
Why would one want to find; lets say, for example, all the things they have in common with the devil?
So what then; after we find what we have in common?Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
DaveH If you want to discuss Theology why do you cast all these dispersions against Perry character?
Even if he was a ANGRY, ANTI, ATTACKING, with Internal HANG UPS, type person as you paint the picture, what exactly about that picture, proves Mormonism true?
Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No. But I would like to know your
answer. Izzy
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DAVEH: Do you want to discuss theology, Izzy
wondering something. What if you were given absolute proof that J.the Christ was a fraud? Would you still choose to believe in Christianity?
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DAVEH: Do you want
Of course not. (duh.)
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LindaS, I'm just wondering something. What if you
were given
But Kermie, you miss the point do you not? -Miss
piggie
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Deegan
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LANCE says LindaS, I'm just wondering
something
Would a Mormon not answer YOUR QUESTION regarding
JS in the same irrational fashion? Duh indeed!
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Of course
DAVEH: Casting dispersions against Perry? Don't think so,
Kevin. I'm just helping Perry understand how he comes across to me.
If you think I've cast a single dispersion against Perry, please define
dispersion and then give me one example where I've dispersed
himso to speak.
As for
DAVEH: I very much appreciate your response to each question I asked,
Perry. Though I respectfully disagree with some of your conclusions, at
least you didn't dodge my question.Thank you.
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Dave,
It is not what we have in common that is the problem...it is what we
Of Dave Hansen
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05, 2005 10:16
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DAVEH: Do you want to discuss
theology, Izzy?
ShieldsFamily wrote:
DaveH,
Im just wondering something. What if you were given absolute proof
that J.Smith was a fraud
Lance, you have missed the point that
DaveH has failed to answer my question. Izzy
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DAVEH: I like your answer, Izzy.Of course not.
(duh.)
BTW.I am curious---why do you not
want to discuss theology?
ShieldsFamily wrote:
No. But I would like to know your
And, if Joseph was a prophet and, if he was visited
by an angel, and, if LDS is the recovery of the one true church?
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I read his response. HE DID ANSWER THE
QUESTION.
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Lance, you have
missed the point that DaveH
give me one example where I've dispersed him
You claim he is ANGRY, an ANTI, he is ATTACKING, with Internal HANG UPS
DAVEH: Do you feel compelled to attack other religions as you do the LDS Church?
DAVEH:Referring to you as an anti-Mormon would have no political or social consequences on TT. I
go to Paradise if he wasn't baptized? Izzy
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Blaine, FYI you are not one who is in a position
be not judged (rashly), in other words; or, Judgement is mine, saith
the Lord.
--
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Blaine
Blaine: Just for the record, so as to answer the question, what is faith, I
reply the following:
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not
seen
Now, I have a question for Debbie and TT's in general: The stance taken by
many on TT has been that the Bible
is another question that was
never answered by any who wereparty to the conversation.
Debbie
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DAVEH: Ponder those passages, Kevin, and consider their context. Do
you really think they each mean that all things revealed by God are in
the Bible? It does not even make sense to think such, since the Bible
didn't exist at the time they said such things. Furthermore, from a
logical
DAVEH: Owhat an interesting response, Perry! I must say
that I do find it rather curious that you would rather take a more
vigorous new tack against my beliefs rather than discuss issues of
theology common to both of us. May I ask what has prompted you to take
on this agenda with
DaveH wrote:
Do you believe the Bible contains all things
pertaining to the gospel, Kevin?
Kevin wrote:
I believe the Scriptures which say:
Acts 20:20 And how I kept back nothing that
was profitable unto you, but have shewed you,
and have taught you publickly, and from house
to house
Kevin wrote:
The thief on the cross in Luke 23:39-43
Was not baptised.
Why do you and Izzy ASSUME that the criminal on the cross had never been
baptized?
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
--
Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know
how you ought
My quest continues. If any of you real Christians on TT see any other evidence that Satan is the mind and power behind JS and mormonism, please let me know so I can research it and add it to my growing list of evidence of Satan's grimy signature on the good, but deceived, people of the mormon lie.
Jude Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
The use of the Greek word [hapax] carries the meaning of "once only
Perry wrote:
Doesn't 'ALL' always mean 'ALL'?
The word all has a range of meaning and often is not used in an absolute
strict sense in the Greek Scriptures. Consider the following passage:
Acts 10:38
(38) How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power:
who went about
DAVEHAnd, do you consider yourself to be anti-Mormon?
Interesting question for Perry. That propmpts one for DAVEH. Do you consider yourself to be ANTI Bible ANTI Christian?Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DAVEH: Owhat an interesting response, Perry! I must say that I do find it
Blaine wrote:
God is just, as well as merciful, and only He can
make judgements regards these cases that fall
outside the Christian view. As a Mormon Christian,
I believe God has told us some things that apply
to us, but many of his judgements he reserves to Himself.
It sounds to me like
I have not come short in any thing I am COMPLETE in Jesus Christ Col 2
I have recieved the FAITH once deliveredDavid Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DaveH wrote: Do you believe the Bible contains all things pertaining to the gospel, Kevin?Kevin wrote: I believe the Scriptures which say: Acts 20:20
The Romans probably did not allow him to come down off the cross and attend a baptismDavid Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kevin wrote: The thief on the cross in Luke 23:39-43 Was not baptised.Why do you and Izzy ASSUME that the criminal on the cross had never been baptized?Peace be with you.David
So you believe that Joe Smith has further revelation of the faith for believers?David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perry wrote: Doesn't 'ALL' always mean 'ALL'?The word "all" has a range of meaning and often is not used in an absolute strict sense in the Greek Scriptures. Consider the following
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Dave,
Between Kevin's response, and the response I made to David some time
ago (which you quoted in your response), my position should be clear
and I don't think there is any more that I can add. If you were to
accept my and Kevin's position, that 'ALL' really means
Kevin wrote:
I have not come short in any thing I am
COMPLETE in Jesus Christ Col 2
I have recieved the FAITH once delivered
Who is saying that you have come short in something? I'm not sure what this
comment has to do with my comments concerning your passages showing that
much ministry
Kevin wrote:
So you believe that Joe Smith has further
revelation of the faith for believers?
No, but not because God cannot or does not reveal knowledge to people, but
because having studied the man, I conclude that he was a fraud. For one
thing, he lied about being able to translate the
Kevin wrote:
The Romans probably did not allow him to come
down off the cross and attend a baptism
How do you know that he was not baptized before he was crucified, much like
someof the men on death row today?
Peace be with you.David Miller.
Just off the top of my head I would say that he hadn't
received John's baptism of repentance because if he
had in fact repented from the heart then he would not be in the situation he
found himself in at Calvary. If he had been present at the sermon
on the Mount when Jesus introduced His
Hebrews 11:1
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11:21 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] baptism
Here is another question that was never answered by
any who wereparty
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] baptism
Kevin wrote:
The thief on the cross in Luke 23:39-43
Was not baptised.
Why do you and Izzy ASSUME that the criminal on the cross had never been
baptized?
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
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