Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit, Soul, and Body

2004-10-30 Thread Judy Taylor
What was so exciting about Lance's comment and what did he teach you other than to totally disregard the intent of the author? The verse in Ezekiel that Lance drags out - which he claims impliesthe earth is flat is speaking about the land, country, district, county. Give me a break. If I

Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit, Soul, and Body

2004-10-30 Thread Lance Muir
'wresting the Scripture' Some do it regularly. Some don't. Some 'get it' while others don't.. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: October 30, 2004 03:12 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit, Soul, and Body

Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit, Soul, and Body

2004-10-29 Thread Judy Taylor
Dosen't take much to excite some people. Do you study the scriptures just so that you can argue Slade? Judyt On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:59:27 -0400 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: LANCE That's a great argument! I never thought of that before.

RE: [TruthTalk] Spirit, Soul, and Body

2004-10-29 Thread Slade Henson
21.06Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit, Soul, and Body Dosen't take much to excite some people. Do you study the scriptures just so that you can argue Slade? Judyt On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:59:27 -0400 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-18 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 7/14/2004 8:23:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is it OK if I submit a few scriptures for consideration . Question is are we spiritual beings or are we souls with bodies? I Co 15:46-48; Ro 7:23 John

Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-15 Thread ttxpress
asceticismis self-absorbed On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 09:53:22 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..Jesus did tell us to 'deny ourselves, take up our cross, and follow Him' - so what exactly is SELF?

Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-15 Thread Judy Taylor
You havedescribed what IYO self does rather than defining what self is? So what exactly is SELF as you see it? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] asceticismis self-absorbed On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 09:53:22 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..Jesus did tell us to 'deny ourselves, take up

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-15 Thread ttxpress
"I've been walking forty miles of bad roadIf the bible is right, the world will explodeI've been trying to get as far away from myself as I canSome things are too hot to touchThe human mind can only stand so muchYou can't win with a losing hand" http://bobdylan.com/songs/thingshave.html --

Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-14 Thread Dave
Hey g..have you ever heard the term, skin the cat? Perhaps you should take Izzy up on her invitation.! :-D ShieldsFamily wrote: G, you havent partied until youve partied with Iz! J G -- ~~~ Dave

RE: PROBABLE SPAM Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-14 Thread Slade Henson
:23To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: PROBABLE SPAM Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 21:24:18 -0500 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this proves the point

Re: PROBABLE SPAM Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-14 Thread Lance Muir
with her dauther (?) eating ice cream, the street party. From: Slade Henson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 14, 2004 05:52 Subject: RE: PROBABLE SPAM Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul Guys, can I interject? We are to deny self -- we are to throw off the lustful shackles

RE: PROBABLE SPAM Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 3:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: PROBABLE SPAM Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul Guys, can I interject? We are to deny self -- we are to throw off the lustful shackles of the world. We are to dance

Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-14 Thread Terry Clifton
Judy Taylor wrote: Bless you Laura, Is it OK if I submita few scriptures forconsideration . Question is are we spiritual beings or are wesouls withbodies? Scripture teaches us that "God is a Spirit" John 4:24 - so how was Adam made in His Image aside from being createda

Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-14 Thread LaurHamm
My responses are in red. Laura In a message dated 7/14/2004 10:23:04 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Scripture teaches us that "God is a Spirit" John 4:24 - so how was Adam made in His Image aside from being createda spiritual being? God put His spirit in him

Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-14 Thread Terry Clifton
Judy Taylor wrote: "John Gray, a circuit-riding preacher, never failed to thank God for something, no matter how bad the times or how severe the trial One day when Gray had had to battle through wind and sleet to his preaching appointment at a distant village chapel, the small

RE: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-14 Thread Slade Henson
I appreciate your candidness, Terry. Here's another perspective... In the midst of persecution, Reb Tevye once said, "Thank you, G-d, for making us Your chosen people... but it would be nice if You'd choose someone else once in a while." -- slade -Original Message-From:

RE: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
; also very good. I recommend them to anyone who hasnt seen them. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 4:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul Judy Taylor wrote: John Gray

Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 7/13/2004 12:34:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do you mean? What do you want? Your style has improved but I am not so sure that clarity of purpose has followed suite. Ditto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Splain please. JDs

Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 7/13/2004 2:39:37 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do any of you have a problem with the following? We are saved by grace through faith (Ephesians 2:8) The engrafted Word is able to save your/our soul (James 1:21) (obedience to it that is) Faith comes by

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 7/13/2004 7:20:19 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We think 'reality' through 'concepts'. True, but there is a reality. J

Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-13 Thread ttxpress
yousound like 'a worried man with a worried mind' (quoting a line of b dylan:)...like Iz and Judy freaked you out or something... ftr,reading the text carefully, there's no reference to 'works', whatever that is; it indicates that your original question is rooted in (their)confusion--the

Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-13 Thread ttxpress
here's scientific bias at work in religion--another confusingretrojectionthatcollides withinductive bible study On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 22:11:03 -0700 Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: sodium by itself is quite different than chloride..

Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-13 Thread ElisabethBrown
What do you mean? What do you want? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 2:20 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul here's scientific bias at work in religion--another

Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-13 Thread ElisabethBrown
Best wishes! Customer SupportWorkmiracle - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 8:08 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul by whom? On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 10:17:35 -0700

Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-13 Thread Judy Taylor
Who is confused Gary? I can not recall ever discussing "works" here or promoting asceticism either - must all bea figment of your own imagination but this does pertain to the subject at hand. Satan loves to get hold of our conceptual thinking and since the fall mankind has been more than

Re: Fw: Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-13 Thread ttxpress
so do you On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 05:47:03 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Satan loves to get hold of our conceptual thinking..

Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-13 Thread Dave
DAVEH: And an errant comment on my part at that, G. As I was trying to go to sleep last night, it occurred to me that I should have said chlorine instead of chloride! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: here's scientific bias at work in religion--another confusingretrojectionthatcollides

RE: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
and follow Me. Gary, Your argument is not with me or Judy or anyone else. Your argument is with Jesus. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 12:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

RE: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
Matt 13:3 And He spoke many things to them in parables. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 12:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul here's scientific bias at work

Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-13 Thread LaurHamm
I have been thinking about this thread and in my opinion, we are born with a body and have a soul which represents life.I guess we could say we are a soul to be correct. We receive the HS when we are saved. Then when we die the soul goes to be with the Lord. Do we even need the spirit

Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-13 Thread ttxpress
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 12:04 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul yousound like 'a worried man with a worried mind' (quoting a line of b dylan:)...like Iz and

Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-13 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this proves the point--such zeal for asceticism totally eclipsesthe Gospel === If this is true, can you explain how that happens, and who makes that decision? Terry

Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-13 Thread ttxpress
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 21:24:18 -0500 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this proves the point--such zeal for asceticism totally eclipsesthe Gospel ===If this is true, can you

Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-13 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 21:24:18 -0500 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this proves the point--such zeal for asceticism totally eclipsesthe Gospel

RE: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
G, you havent partied until youve partied with Iz! J Example, as far as Izzy's concerned,denying one's self (e.g.) a week of wedding partying in Cana and renouncing asceticism to follow JC are identical NT theologies (..think about it:) G

RE: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
Terry, we are not to have a party spirit ie: worldy partying. But we are to have a blast with friends and family, and totally enjoy Gods bountiful blessings! (a time for every purpose under heaven) Izzy === We are followers.

RE: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
g. how do you do it? Iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 9:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul laying aside one's self as JC commandedis not possible in asceticism

RE: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
Tell it to Jesus. J Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 7:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul this proves the point--such zeal for asceticism totally eclipsesthe

Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-13 Thread ttxpress
ED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul laying aside one's self ||as JC commanded||is not possible in asceticism On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 22:22:33 -0500 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We are followers...commanded to deny self...

RE: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-12 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Judy, welcome back. Not only does the scripture separate spirit and soul, but while you were gone the question arose as to whether or not there are two flavors of salvation...a salvation of the spirit, based on faith, which leads to eternal life, and a salvation of the soul, based on works,

RE: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
Judy, hope your ears are hanging correctly. Great thoughtsI never thought about the word saying it divides the soul and spirit! Why would it want to do that Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 8:15

RE: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
Perry, did you try this website; it comes up as not available for me. Perhaps just temporary? Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Perry Locke Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 8:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk

Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-12 Thread Terry Clifton
Judy Taylor wrote: Hello again TT'ers, After two weeks of "Do your ears hang low" and a camping trip with two of the grandchildren, I looked in the archives to see if there was any

RE: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-12 Thread Charles Perry Locke
DaveH, why do you think body + spirit = soul? The scripture speaks as though they are three separate things: 1 Thessalonians 5:23. Also see Hebrews 4:12 which refers to the dividing of the soul and the spirit. Also, Peter refers to the salvation of the soul. -- Let your speech be

RE: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-12 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Izzy, try this: www.lampbroadcast.org ... I put a com on it out of habit habit. Please let me know what you think of this article. From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 11:10:26 -0500

Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-12 Thread ttxpress
by whom? On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 10:17:35 -0700 "Charles Perry Locke" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:a salvation of the soul, based on works,

Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-12 Thread Charles Perry Locke
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 18:08:06 -0600 by whom? On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 10:17:35 -0700 Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: a salvation of the soul, based on works, -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may

Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-12 Thread ttxpress
you initiallyinquired about salvation of the soul by 'works'--how isAp. Paul's thought/context below related to the bias in your theoretical issue/s? On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 18:08:33 -0700 "Charles Perry Locke" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:["]the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it

Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-12 Thread Charles Perry Locke
, as is evident from v 15b: ...but he himself shall be saved... perry From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 19:32:31 -0600 you initially inquired about salvation of the soul by 'works'--how is Ap. Paul's

Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-12 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 7/12/2004 6:08:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1 Cor 3:13-15 - Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 14 If any man's work

Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-12 Thread Dave
Charles Perry Locke wrote: DaveH, why do you think body + spirit = soul? DAVEH: It is strictly based on my LDS background. I did not know that some Christians have a similar belief though, and have found it very interesting. The scripture speaks as though they are three separate things: 1

Re: [TruthTalk] Spirit/Soul

2004-07-12 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 7/12/2004 10:24:08 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judy Taylor wrote: Hello again TT'ers, After two weeks of "Do your ears hang low" and a camping trip with two of the grandchildren, I looked in the archives to see if there was any interesting adult type