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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:57:12 -0400
Mr. Moderator: This is over the top and, not necessary.
L
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From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED
Baline,
Sometimes it is right to doubt. But, when shown the evidence, even Thomas
believed. We will only know for sure when you present the facts and let me
evaluate them. The point is that if there is no real evidence, then the
scripture is most likely not related to the anecdote at all.
Dave, sorry to hear about your ER trip, but glad to hear you are back home
recuperating. Take it easy and don;t rush things. At our age we don't
recuperate like we did hen we were 19!
I can hear you now...ohh, I feel terrible...quick, get a laptop...I have to
check in wth TT! :-)
Perry
Blaine, sorry about the typo...sometimes I transpose letters
unintentionally.
Transmitters, receivers, whatever. Are you willing to admit that since
there is no real evidence, then it is possible that the Isaiah scripture is
not related to the anecdote?
Perry, AE6GQ
From: [EMAIL
that Blaine's 'belief' might be
quite true and, that your's might be quite false? I'm not attempting to be
funny!
Why not address my post concerning 'belief systems'.?
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From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 13, 2005 10
Blaine,
I will assume that your answer is no, that you are not willing to admit
that since there is no real evidence, then it is possible that the Isaiah
scripture is not related to the anecdote.
From your answer, then I will also assume that when you have no evidence
linking a
Blaine, in the Doctrine and Covenants, section 117:12 JS wrote the following
prophecy:
And again, I say unto you, I remember my servant Oliver Granger; behold,
verily I say unto him that his name shall be had in sacred remembrance from
generation to generation, forever and ever, saith the
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From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 06:20:26 -0700
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah
Lance, what I also hear is that we all choose to believe what we want to
believe, regardless of the facts, or lack thereof
Blaine,
Thanks for your spiritual insight into this prophecy. So, if I understand
this correctly, the REAL meaning of this prophecy is that Oliver Granger's
name would be remembered from generation to generation by virtue of the fact
that detractors of mormonism would point it out as false
Do you think you Grandfather is a god now, with spirit wives, and possible
the pitter-patter of little spirit feet?
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Hill Cumorah
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:15:05 EDT
In a
A question for Dave and/or Blaine...
Do the mormons believe that the golden plates used by JS to translate the
BoM are still buried in the hill in Palmyra New York they call Hill Cumorah?
Perry
--
Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you
Blaine wrote: The sealed portion has yet to be translated, but contains
the vision of all. see Isaiah. 29:11
Blaine, how do you know that Isaiah 29:11 refers to the golden plates? I
don't see the connection to the plates other than the word sealed.
Perry
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Yes, I have heard that story, but that does not relate the event to the
Isaiah passage. We still have two separate stories with no ties other than
some common words. One from scripture, one anecdotal. Do you have anything
that actually links them?
Perry
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Reply-To:
Kevin, you may disagree with the Bible versions others use, but please do
not call them Bible Perverts. One who uses a perverted translation might
better describe your position on other translations without casting
aspersions on the one that prefers, or references, other translations.
Perry
Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whoa, Blaine. Is your witness of the spirit that subjective heartburn
feelings mormons say they get? AKA, the burning in the bazoom? Do you have
any biblical references that this burning feeling is a valid
Blaine, I have no link. Maybe Dave has it. The photo was attached to Dave's
original message. If you have that just open the email and clock download
at the bottom of hte mail page (I presume you receive TT mail via your AOL
account?).
Perry
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Reply-To:
Oh, Blaine, if you took my response as serious, thinking the picture really
is of me in a clown suit, then you did not catch the gist of my jest. Dave
just forwarded some photo he got somehwere, most likely on the web, and
posted it as though it was me. I was just playing along. But, still feel
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 03:19:43 EDT
In a message dated 6/6/2005 3:28:38 PM Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whoa, Blaine. Is your witness of the spirit that subjective
Izzy, I have to vote for this book in Rev 22:18,19 applying specifically
to the Revelation. I used to try to apply it to the whole Bible (in a debate
with a mormon many years ago) , and I DO believe that the general principle
applies to the whole Bible, but in particular believe that these
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Perry Locke
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 8:39 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH
Izzy, I have to vote for this book in Rev 22:18,19 applying specifically
to the Revelation. I used to try to apply it to the whole Bible
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 09:15:28 -0400
He already answered these. James 1:5 fg/
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From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 07, 2005 09:01
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH
Blaine, there were a couple
I agree, and I think John recorded that effectively.
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Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:52:05 -0500
God knew.
-Original Message-
Also, it does not
Well, I do have to admit a slight resemblance.
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Clowning Around
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:33:54 EDT
In a message dated 6/7/2005 7:14:22 AM Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL
Blaine wrote:
Associatiing JS with other false priests, is a bad association no
matter how you look at it.
cpl
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Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you
ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org
If you do
Blaine,
First, you said associating JS with OTHER false priests...these are
YOUR words, and you imply JS was ALSO a false priest...if you had NOT wanted
to include him you should have said associating JS with false priests
(sans the other).
Second, I can only know what you WRITE, not
That's funny. The God of the Bible was not once a man and is not from the
planet Kolob, did not have a son named Satan (or Lucifer). Get serious
Blaine. I know you have been told they are the same, and that you have to
ignore the facts to maintain that belief, but the rest of us know better.
Whoa, Blaine. Is your witness of the spirit that subjective heartburn
feelings mormons say they get? AKA, the burning in the bazoom? Do you have
any biblical references that this burning feeling is a valid witness? Could
it instead possibly be the fires of hell being stoked by your resident
Actually, Izzy, it was not that long ago that Dave and I were having just
such a squabble.
Perry
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Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Exerpts
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:30:56 -0500
JD why is it that
Blaine, in your usual style, you have not answered my questions, yet expect
me to answer yours. Let me list them out for you...after you answer them,
then list yours out and I will take a stab at answering them:
1. Is your witness of the spirit that subjective heartburn feelings
mormons say
Are you so gullible that YOU believe everything that is in print? Like the
Book of Mormon, Pearl of Great Price, and the DC.
E. B. White, the author of Charlotte's Web, was born in 1899. How could the
story be a basis for what E. B. Stennhouse wrote in 1875???
Perry
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Blaine,
Where in the Bible does anyone feel the Shekinah? ...and the mormon
moses said, I felt it! I felt it! Did you feel it? Just for a moment there
I felt it!, Blaine 3:12-15, BBV.
The shekinah was a HUGE column of smoke by day, and a column of fire by
night. I guess if you were in the
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From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 06, 2005 12:36
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH
Whoa, Blaine. Is your witness of the spirit that subjective
heartburn
feelings mormons say they get? AKA, the burning in the bazoom? Do
Glad my comedic bent is entertaining to you, my friend.
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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] JS is a False Priest according to Blaine
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:16:08 EDT
Blaine: Are we having fun yet, Perry?
this 'foolishness' seriously?
- Original Message -
From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 06, 2005 12:56
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH
Blaine, in your usual style, you have not answered my questions, yet
expect
me to answer yours
:18 -0400
Now, CPL, how 'bout answering me?
.
- Original Message -
From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 06, 2005 13:59
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH
Blaine, I did not make that comment. It is from Lance. While most of use
People don't starve because there is not enough food in the world. People
starve because despotic rulers cut off supply chains to starve the people so
they will not rise up and overthrow the despots. No amount of money will fix
those types of problems...but getting rid of the depots will.
and by flame, by captivity and by spoil many days etc..
(Daniel 11:33-39) judyt
From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
People don't starve because there is not enough food in the world. People
starve because despotic rulers cut off supply chains to starve the people
so
they will not rise up
From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But the Mormon teaching Manuals say the Prophet is the ONLY man allowed to
add or subtract.
To/from his harem?
ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:You are wrong again, Blaine.
Revelations says that no one is to add or subtract from the Bible.
] Perry vs DaveH
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 14:28:19 -0700 (PDT)
ROTFL!
Burning in the BAZOOM?
Did you make that up or a typo Bosom
Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whoa, Blaine. Is your witness of the spirit that subjective heartburn
feelings mormons say they get? AKA, the burning
What? I thought Maps was the last book in the Bible, after the book of
Concordance!
From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:17:51 -0700 (PDT)
Twisting the facts
: [TruthTalk] Clowning Around
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 20:58:33 -0700
*PRODUCE THE PHOTOS OR RETRACT YOUR MISCHARACTERIZATION OF MY COUNTENANCE!
*
DAVEH: Can it be an AH attack if there are pictures to prove it,
Perry. :-D
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Third, it is an ad hominem attack
Gary, To call someone's comments a myth (even without any evidence)
expresses your unsupported opinion. But, your parenthetical comment equates
David to a false prophet. Rather than level such an ad hominem attack,
please provide exidence to support your claim or retract it.
Perry the
Lance, if you are going to state that David's citations demonstrate a
misreadng, please provide some evidence of such and allow David to respond.
Perry the Moderator
From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [Bulk]
I never use the term, and have no definition. But if I wanted one I would
see if there was a comon usage for the term. I wouldn't make up my own
definition to fit my own desires.
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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re:
Jun 2005 11:38:36 -0400
Why?
- Original Message -
From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 04, 2005 11:37
Subject: Moderator commant: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
Lance, if you are going to state that David's citations demonstrate
/webster/webster.exe?search_for_texts_web1828=priestcraft
...Will Blaine receive a forthcoming apology?
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
I never use the term, and have no definition. But if I wanted one I would
see if there was a comon usage for the term. I wouldn't make up my own
definition to fit
think other TTers have joined TT to listen to me /sermonizing?
/ Therefore Perry, is it not you who wants to use another definition in an
attempt to change the culture here?
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
When a person is steeped in a culture in which the cultural leaders
redefine words to have
of this privately?
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From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 04, 2005 11:32
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] [Bulk] Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: NIV Bible Quiz
Gary, To call someone's comments a myth (even without any evidence
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Blaine wrote: Priestcraft is, by my definition, ...
Here we go again...the mormons like to make up their own meanings for
words, to suit thier own personal perception of the world. I call this the
Queen of Hearts syndrome: Words mean exactly what I want them to
Christine, do you equate singing songs in church with worship? Are there any
other types of worship than singing songs?
Perry
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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005
John,
I have to agree. I otherwise might not agree, but I met a man who came
with his wfe to a Bible study I was in some years ago. He was raised in a
home in which his mother and father were involved in drugs from before he
was born. He would go with them to make buys, and witness them use
Izzy, I felt your post below was a bit tacky. I speak as your brother, not
as moderator.
From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Are those the only body parts you are missing, or are you holding out on
us, JD? (Sounds like a likely story to me!) Iz
--
Let your speech be always with
Of Charles Perry Locke
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 8:37 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
Izzy, I felt your post below was a bit tacky. I speak as your brother, not
as moderator.
From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Are those the only body parts
. Should you doubt this I could call BT 'up
from the dead' to so demonstrate my point. Does this 'count'?
- Original Message -
From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 01, 2005 01:03
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH
Blaine,
You have
Actually, I have a problem when I type similar to John's, in tht I
frequently transpose two letters. It is because I am not a touch-typist, I
guess. But, I do it a lot. I noticed that each of the typos that you and
Kevin pointed out are nothing more than letter transpositions. Surely you
can
Blaine,
You have to have the right jesus, or it does not count. The bible is
replete with warnings not to follow false christs...written well before JS
ever invented (or was inspired by Satan to invent) the mormon jesus. It is
that simple. You have to have the right jesus.
Perry
From:
John, I consider the following a veiled ad hominem reference:
...someone who either does not comprehend at a high level (say , similar to
a dolphin)
Giving a second option (not reading posts), which may or may not be true,
does not negate or cover the ad hominem part.
Perry
From: [EMAIL
John, you certainly are easily entertained! Perhaps you should get out a
little more!
What else can I say? Izzy opened the door, Lance only walked through it.
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Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] RE:
Is corrected edition of the Inspired Version an oxymormon?
From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of
Teaching LDS...
Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 19:08:00 -0700
Actually, John, I did not read this as a preference of one over the
other. I am sorry that you did. I read it as an effort on the part of David
to honestly relate what he has gained from Dave's being on TT.
I, too, have gained from Dave's being on TT. He (as well as Blaine and
Raymond)
] Perry vs DaveH
Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 18:58:17 -0500
Perry, please keep in mind that it was I who exposed the Mormon underwear
thingy. Izzy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Perry Locke
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 2:25 PM
To: TruthTalk
TT members,
Well, here I am again moderating TT. I am changing my style a little from
when I last was moderator. Last time I approached ad-hominem offenders in
private and discussed with them the nature of their offense. I fear that,
while I think this was effective most of the time, it may
' but maybe it'd be me. Yikes!
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From: Dave
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: May 28, 2005 13:40
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic
Method of Teac
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Dave,
The LIE I accused you
Lance,
I will not argue with you on Gary's credentials as you have stated them.
But, I have rarely seen a post of his that I have understood. People, in
general, don't think and communicate like Gary, so much of the time it
sounds to me like he is speaking a foreign language. His style of
correct
concerning the 'dreaded' DaveH (I actually don't believe you are), can't
you
just overlook it and, move on? My goodness Perry, it's turning into the
mountain/molehill thingy.
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From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: May 28
Lance, thanks for posting this very candid and informative post. It is
almost always a good exercise to see oneself as others see you.
From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: [TruthTalk] Fw: farewell to TT -- long but
] mormon angels. was: Dave
uses Socratic Met
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 07:03:36 -0500
Frequently. Guess I'll have to quit that.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Perry Locke
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 9:15 PM
To: TruthTalk
2005 09:02:54 -0400
Charles:Are you angrier at the Mormons than God is?
- Original Message -
From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: May 27, 2005 08:57
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses
Socratic Method
: There are some, you and I among them, on TT who similarly 'cling' to
that which is simply not so concerning the nature of God and His Gospel.
Would you not agree? Does one find penetrating 'that' any easier?
Lance
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From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED
be
seeing a lot of references to our Standard Works instead of just Biblical
quotes.
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Dave, do you sometimes teach mormon doctrine on TT?
From: Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pery wrote: Are you on TT to teach mormon doctrine?
DAVEH: No, Perryas I've explained
to acknowledge that you understand
that I never objected to your posting motmon doctrine or else to provide
evidence to the contrary, and that the only thing I ever objected to (from
my perspective) was your denial of your teaching mormon doctrine.
Perry
From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL
Blaine, it seems that 99 44/100 % of the DC was revealed to JS. Did he
have a general constituency that voted on whether or not what he said was
was revealed to him was truly revelation from god? How about his visions.
Was there a vote on those, too? Do you think Isaiah or Daniel or Exekiel
. That is not the point. The point
is teaching mormon doctrine when you say you aren't. You can do that without
ever referencing a single mormon text. Deepak Chopra teaches hinduism
without ever referencing any hindu texts.
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Dave,
I respect your position, and I beleive that we
-0700
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
David, and Dave,
Dave states that he is not here [on TT] to learn the truth...he is
here to learn what protestants think, and why. While not part of his
pat statement about why he is on TT, he also said that he is not here
tio convert anyone to mormonism
Izzy, I also receive a post from you occasionaly that has only a large J in
along left hand edge. Do you sometimes post a message with only a smiley
face in it?
Perry
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Subject: RE:
J --- this is how it looks to me...the letter j.
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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave
uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT
Date: Thu,
John,
I would really like to read some more of your thoughts and the results of
your research on the Kingdom, if you don't mind sharing it with us.
Perry
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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re:
stated reason for
joining TT years ago. You can believe as you wish, Perrybut if you
effectively want to post that I am lying about my reasons for being here,
then I see no particular reason to hand you the knife with which you intend
to use to carve up my faith.
Charles Perry Locke wrote
David, Dave is smarter than you are giving him credit for being. He knows
what he is doing. He is playing a word game. I have no problem with him
pushing his mormon views into the discussions here...I just want him to
acknowledge that is what he is doing. He is intentionally misinterpreting
. You can believe as you wish, Perrybut if you
effectively want to post that I am lying about my reasons for being here,
then I see no particular reason to hand you the knife with which you intend
to use to carve up my faith.
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Actually, the problem I have
David, and Dave,
Dave states that he is not here [on TT] to learn the truth...he is here
to learn what protestants think, and why. While not part of his pat
statement about why he is on TT, he also said that he is not here tio
convert anyone to mormonism or to teach mormonism.
I believe
Dave,
Christians consider angels and humans to be two distinct types of created
beings. Correct me if I am wrong, but don't mormons consider angels to be
either pre-mortal or post-mortal humans? For example, don't mormons consider
Michael (the archangel) also to have been a human at one
angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of
Teaching LDS doctrine on TT
Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 06:38:17 -0700
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Dave,
Christians consider angels and humans to be two distinct types of
created beings.
DAVEH: Yes, I understand that. Yet, it seems Paul is telling us
be the
equivalent of teaching LDS theology on TT, an activity Perry abhors.
Lance Muir wrote:
Could you not expand on 'somewhat close'?
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Dave,
Christians consider angels and humans to be two distinct types of
created beings.
DAVEH: Yes, I understand
Blaine, I drank some punch like that one itme ;-)
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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine
on TT
Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 22:18:43 EDT
In a message dated 5/23/2005
I emailed Raymond to ask him when we would see him again on TT and I don't
think he would mind me sharing wth all that he replied, I don't have time
to keep up with all of the email. I also tired of re-answering questions,
again and again, that I've already answered. I can understand his
Can you beleive it? I saw Protestantism for Dummies in Barnes and Noble
the other day. I sat down and read few sections...I wanted to know what they
believe, too! Especially info about the 2nd Great Awakening. There was some
major spiritual activity going on around that time. Many heretical
TT members,
Did you know that TT has a photo page? Most of you probably do know that,
but for those that do not, check it out at http://innglory.org. Then click
on the Photos link, then List members.
As I glanced through the pictures, and noticed a new picture or two since
the last time
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine
on TT
Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 22:15:03 -0700
DAVEH: Another leading question, Perry? Do you intend to criticize me
again for answering your question???
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Dave,
If you
DAVEH:I certainly don't have all the answers to each and every question
you or Kevin might pose...
Finally, reasonable answer.
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Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you
ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6)
Dave, you say you are not here to teach LDS doctrine, but that is exactly
what you are doing. You may not be aware of the Socratic Method of
teaching, but you are using it to teach LDS doctrine. Now, as far as I am
concerned, it is your right to try to teach whatever you think is the truth
by others.
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Dave, you say you are not here to teach LDS doctrine, but that is exactly
what you are doing. You may not be aware of the Socratic Method of
teaching, but you are using it to teach LDS doctrine. Now, as far as I am
concerned, it is your right to try to teach
: To what passages are you referring, Perry?
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Jesus also said he'd return before they've gone through all the towns of
Israel. So, did we miss it?
Carolyn, I would love to hear your answer to the question you posed above.
Can you provide a little rationale along
From: Caroline Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 09:07:49 -0500
Jesus also said he'd return before they've gone through all the towns of
Israel. So, did we miss it?
Carolyn, I would love to hear your answer to the question you posed above.
I am no authority on copying or scripture origins, but I have understood
that when biblical texts were copied, the copyists understood they were on a
mission from God, (what could be more blessed than being entrusted with
accurately copying the Holy Word of God?) and that intentionally doing
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As for the extra books --- I'm an LDS Christian; and I've read them and I
know what's in them. Why don't you read them and ask God if they are true?
Would you rather, as a non-LDS Christian, depend upon man for your
answers or God? I prefer to follow God
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Implied by the text, see--
sniP
--notice that he is 'the accuser' who is 'cast down,' and
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The Scriptures testisfy that there are only two churches---And he said
unto me: Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of
the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whose
belongeth not to the church of the Lamb
Blaine,
Yes. I was the mormon man that attcked the street preacher. That little
guy put up a heck of a fight, but he finally converted me.
Perry
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Blaine,
I was joking, of course, in that last post. You seem to have somehow
identified me as a street preacher, although I have never preached on a
street in my life. I happen to believe in what they are doing, that is,
street evangelism, and admire them for their courage in spreading the
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