Glenn, What a sad commentary. Izzy
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Glenn to Izzy- I
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Your attitude might be falling back to
treating the New Testament and the commandments as law. Based upon some
of
your other comments, you might be looking too much at works as having
efficacy for justification.
David M,
That is a strange
Laura,
The cross is an offense to those who are
perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
Izzy
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Glenn,
I am well aware of the grace of God. What
I want is more of His holiness. I do not consider that to be spiritual pride,
just obedience. When you call your brother, David Miller, a Pharisee for his
stance that is very discouraging to me! To me a Pharisee is someone who goes
around
David Miller wrote:
When I teach holiness,
it is not connected with salvation, but invariably, those who emphasize
grace think that I tie it to salvation through implication.
I do teach that anyone who believes in Jesus needs to receive Jesus as
Lord
of their life. I don't say that people
Hi David,
Yes it does help, and thanks for your time. However, it remains NOT an
easy issue to understand because there is apparently no black and white
answer--too fuzzy for such as me!
I can only say that I appreciate your constant insistence on living
without sin, because you are the only
David,
I have searched for this previous email, but couldn't find it. Would it
be too much trouble for you to provide it again?
Izzy
Did you read the little book
that John Wesley wrote on this? I provided a link to it in a previous
e-mail.
--
Let your speech be always with grace,
What significance do you think this find has for us as Christians, if
any? I wish it could be proved that this was the actual, physical
brother of Jesus--at least that would put an end to all this Virgin Mary
worship, wouldn't it?
Izzy
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Glenn,
Which sin, exactly, is it that you do not
believe that you can avoid committing?
Izzy
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Are these the steps you have used that
didnt work? ROTFL. Ive used them, too. They are very
helpful. J
Izzy
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Laura,
All of the cults who reject Christs
atoning Blood also reject the cross (like Jehovahs Witness and LDS). The
cross is an affront to satan, and to those who are deceived by satan. It
is the cross the defeats their lies. Its just that simple.
Roman Catholics keep Christ on the
Glenn wrote:
Sounds like Satan has the power over you. I
don't believe he does over me.
Glenn,
Doesnt satan have power over us when we
sin?
Izzy
Why not?
Izzy
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Glenn again - No
Glenn
wrote:
Sounds like Satan has
Izzy asks: If we are
drawn away by our own lusts; doesnt satan tempt us in the first place, or not?
Or else how do we know which sins are a response to satans temptation, and
which arent?
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You cannot be a REAL Christian WITHOUT a cross. Anyone who despises the
cross, despises Jesus. Anyone with a take it or leave it attitude
towards the cross has never had his sins washed away by the power of the
Blood shed upon that sign of the price HE paid. The cross the FULCRUM
upon which our
I consider this to be crude humor. When Jesus gives us a sanctified
sense of humor, smut doesn't seem funny anymore. But we have a much
better sense of humor overall. Maybe because we can laugh at ourselves;
and that provides plenty of material in itself! :-) Izzy
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Excuse me, but the questions on that website were a bit overwhelming.
Why don't you cut the trivial pursuit and tell us what's the bottom
line? Are you saying the Arabs have a right to hate the Jews? Are you
saying the Arabs are innocent in the WTC attack?
Izzy
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Blainer) Wowsers!! It is just that simple,
so I guess I must not be
able to understand simple things.
Izzy
says: God has chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise;
..the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
will be judged.
Jesus
did not always give a straight answer to explain what He could see.
There
were reasons for this.
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principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the
darkness
of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high
[places].
Love,
Marlin
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Okay, Marlin, I am also a bit INTENSE at times; especially when
defending people or principles I love. (But I'm not as bad at Glenn!!!)
:-) You sound like a person who has a lot to offer TruthTalk; so don't
let us wild women scare you off.
Izzy
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Okay, GlennI dont remember Sanballet.
Was this something that happened a thousand years ago? How old do you think I
am, anyway? Izzy
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Isnt it intolerant and politically
incorrect to erect walls? J (At least according to the Damocrats!) Be sure to vote!!! Izzy
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Always looking for inspiring
stories to demonstrate the power of prayer, The Presidential Prayer Team shares
this amazing story in the news today. Please pass it on to inspire others.
50 Christian truckers got
together to pray to pray that somehow the sniper terrorizing the Washington,
How about anyone who
Jesus would vote for? Izzy
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Who do
Glenn, You are really trying to step on my
Last Nerve! Izzy
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Glenn,
You are just trying to provoke me to sin,
thereby proving that you are not the only sinner out there. LOL! I dont
think I dare go where angels fear to tread! But, you can let it be on the
record that I only refer to them as Damocrats.
Surely someone out theremaybe Marlinis
up
Glenn, You are very welcome, my friend. Actually,
perhaps I should start a professional resume service, since I bring out the
best in everyone. J The Iz
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Hey, Marlin:
Do you believe the anti-christ is at work on the earth today? (I
wouldn't doubt it!) If so, can you give us a hint who you think it is?
Do you think the mark of the beast will be implanted computer chips,
like we put in our pets? I've been wondering about all of this...
Izzy
Glenn,
Are you a member of the Wallbuilders
organization? The one that teaches our nations Christian heritage? Or what the
heck are you talking about???
Izzy
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I knew there was something I liked about
you, Glenn!
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not
that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an
antichrist.
Love,
Marlin
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Hey, Marlin:
Do you believe the anti
Marlin,
Scary. So you think it is our SSN, and not a computer chip? Or both?
I'll do the websearch.
Izzy
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and an
antichrist.
Love,
Marlin
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Hey, Marlin:
Do you believe the anti-christ is at work on the earth today? (I
wouldn't doubt
I had seen this discussed on Foxnet cable TV by Bill O'Rielly. Very
scary. A definite sign of the end times, if that is the way we will be
marked to be able to buy and sell.
Izzy
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Wow, Marlin--the websearch on 666 was amazing! So much information; it's
overwhelming to delve into. Very thought provoking. It would take a very
long time to sift through it all, as you seem to have done. It just
confirms what I already felt--that Jesus' return is coming SO soon!
What do you
Psalms 21:13
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Izzy, please give Bible for your
Glenn,
Okay, D.A. (which FYI, from now on refers
to Devils Advocate): If you must make me spell it out, I
am very happy that the control of the Senate by the evil (ie: abortion and
perversion promoting) Damocrats has been recovered by the God-fearing
Republicans. I am glad that our
Marlin,
I did not ask you the question below about
Christmasthat came from Glenn. I find your comments very interesting. I
can also see the value of not getting caught up on what are now secular
holidays. The Jews have many God ordained holidays. Do you think Christians
have any?
Glenn,
Christmas is not in the Bible. Sometimes
it is not what the Bible says, but what it does not say. Personally I celebrate
Christmas, but you cant accuse Marlin of being unbiblical if he does not want
to.
Izzy
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Marlin,
I think it was from both.
Izzy
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Marlin
The Declaration of
Independence,was it from heaven, or of men?
There are no connecting dots between the
republicrats/democrans, and our true King.
--Marln
Izzy
says: This may be true. But when one party celebrates homosexuality and
infanticide and burdensome taxation of families, while the other party stands
for the opposite, which one do
Laura,
What do you mean by respect? What
scripture are you referring to? If you mean obeying the laws I agree. If you
mean looking up to someone who is desecrating the Oval Office with his
adulterous perversions, lies constantly, refers to the Secret Servicemen who
protect him and his
Exactly right! Izzy
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Why do think God allowed Bill Clinton in office? Could
Glenn wrote:
HE COMES ACROSS WITH PIOUS ARROGANCE.
Izzy says: And you dont
Glenn,
Im so glad that David Miller is making
such progress with you! J
Izzy
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Excuse me, Glenn, but
where did Marlin say he was not able to get along with other Christians? Once
again you are inferring and judging unlovinglynot believing the best
about someone, but first assuming the worst. (Violation of I Cor 13.) I love
you too much to infer from your comments
Glenn,
Where in the BIBLE, BIBLE, BIBLE,
does it say you have to celebrate Christmas? If you want to
attack someone, you should find something worthy of attack. And just because
one or another cult doesnt celebrate Christmas does not mean that Marlin
is a member of a cult. It takes more
Glenn,
Marlin also told you Why he doesnt currently worship
with anyone; and it was not for the ugly reason that you assumed. The Amish
only gather for their worship every other week. So what? We are not to harshly
judge our fellow believers; if we disagree or see a sin we are to gently
P.S. No I dont judge
Christians by what days they choose to worship or celebrate the Lord on, for
the reason of the scriptures I already gave you more than once. Izzy
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On a good day I do both. Izzy
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Do you worship with Christians on Saturday or just
Glenn,
See my previous post for scriptures
regarding judging your brethren. Marlin never said it was a sin to celebrate
Christmas; you just jumped to that conclusion. Why dont you ask him,
instead of judging what you think he means when he says he doesnt
believe in Christmas? My comment
Title: Message
Laura,
I
think you have missed David's point entirely. Marlin is convicted to honor the
SABBATH, as scripture clearly tells us to do. So what if he lives in an area
where there is no Sabbath-worshipping fellowship What if it takes a great
deal of planning to get a group
Title: Message
Glenn,
You
are the one bringing up "doctrine of origins", (which by the way is not in the
Bible);Marlin never did. This is theology terminology psychobabble
thatcertain people like to use to confuse the issue when they can't come
up with scripture to defend their point of
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Laura,
Thanks
for giving him that. And if he is led to worship on the Sabbath, isn't it
obvious to you that he is not going to worship on Sunday
instead?
Izzy
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Laura,
You
don't have to worship-every-Sunday-in-church to worship. As I said, the Amish
worship as a church group every other Sunday. Some folks don't have a church
nearby, so they worship at home. Some folks are too ill to leave their homes;
does that mean they "don't
Glenn,
You teased Blainer for running off.youd
better not do it now! J
Izzy
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Glenn,
Lets all just kiss and make up! J
Hugs,
Izzy
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I'm not leaving TT. I
Glenn,
Pretty bizarre stuff. BTW, are you a
veteran? I have a son who is an Air Force Academy graduate and F-15 pilot, who
is now training new pilots. We are very proud of his service to our country; as
well as all veterans. My Dad was a WWII sailor. Thank God for those who have
fought
Glenn,
Do you personally not believe in musical
instruments in church?
Izzy
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Glenn, I think you are right on in this
statement. Izzy
I believe if it's not in the Bible then I am
free to do it or not do it.
Hi Michael D,
You could start with the 10 Commandments
in Exodus 20:8-11:
Remember the Sabbath day to keep it
holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the 7th day
is a Sabbath of the Lord your God; in it you shall not do any work, you or your
son or your daughter,
Michael
D: Thanx Izzy for the scriptures. Have you ever considered though that the OT sabbath
was a type/shadow of a different rest in the NT.
Izzy: I
certainly agree with this point, although I do not think the NT negates the OT.
I think the NT fulfilled the OT by showing a
Oh, shucks! My computer blocked your
attachment. I will have my Beloved get it fixed tonight so I can see it. You
are really stirring up Big Trouble, Glenn. Be warned: We have THREE
grandchildren!!!
PS Im sure looking like you must be
a blessing. J
Izzy
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Michael
D: Thanx Izzy for the scriptures. Have you ever considered though that the OT
sabbath was a type/shadow of a different rest in the NT.
Izzy: I certainly
Glenn,
I just sent you a direct email regarding
sending that photo to me directlyso give me a break and stay nice, at
least for a little while!!! I know it is hard! (Also WONDERFUL!)
Also, it would be really nice if you would
stop making me pull out my Bible to read your scriptures,
Laura, If it is a bridge,
then there is no change from obeying Gods commandments in the OT and NT.
If we stop obeying, then it is a wall. Izzy
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Glenn, No more than I should kill
murderers; this is a function of the government. A theocracy was a government
under Gods rules. We dont live under Gods rules; we live under the laws of
the USA. I am not going to argue about this silly point anymore. Enough of
your hyperbole! (Kiss!
Laura, You are welcome to
that opinion, but the Bible says the 7th day; Sabbath; Saturday. Period.
If changing Gods commandment to whatever day you prefer doesnt
bother you, thats up to you, and your business. But dont say it
doesnt matter to me. Izzy
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Dearest Glenn,
I agree with Marlins answers which
you have already read on his last couple of posts to answer Acts 20:7.
How do you refute that? How also do you refute the Catholics own claim
that THEY were they ones who changed our worship day from Sat to Sun
I agree that we
Glenn,
I replied at 8:24 am today.
Izzy (not Lizzy)
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Glenn, You seem to be getting a bit testy
hereremember: sweetness and kindness! Izzy
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Glenn,
You still dont understand that I am
not seeking justification through obeying the Sabbath commandment. Do you think
I am lying? Do you know my motives better than I do?
Izzy
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Hi Glenn,
I think I understand where you are coming
from, as far as not being under bondage. You apparently were beaten down
by legalistic attitudes in the past, and rightfully are wiser and more cautious
because of it. You are right that we are free from that!
However, in keeping
Glenn,
Did you read the passages that David
Miller recommended from John Wesley? http://gbgm-umc.org/umhistory/wesley/perfect.html
I have been reading them, and plan to read them together with my Beloved
Sweetie. Here is one excerpt:
The sea is an
excellent figure of the fullness of
Michael D: Izzy, do you hope to
achieve by seeting yourself to obey the ten commandments? What
do you hope to achieve by obeying the other nine? Or dont
you believe they exist anymore, either? Izzy
Also, If I may add... Keeping
your Sabbath is something you must do because
Laura,
Of course it is slanted; it was written
with great contempt by the Catholic church, poking insults at Protestants. Why?
Because the very folks who left the CC to cling to scripture only
have never lived by scripture only when it comes to obeying the
Sabbath commandment. The
David,
I think you are getting confused about the following statement:
In March 1893, the International Religious Liberty
Association PRINTED THESE RESOLUTIONS IN A TRACT entitled Appeal and
Remonstrance. On RECEIPT OF ONE OF THESE, THE EDITOR of the Catholic
Mirror
of Baltimore, Maryland,
Dear Laura, the Practical
One,
I dont think that being in the
majority is necessarily an indication of correctness. (Wide is the road,
and broad is the way that leads to destruction; and many there are upon it.My
translation).
I would not say that anyone who does not
honor the
Glenn, Actually I think thats what
they called them in the articleI didnt know the difference
because I never heard of them before. Izzy
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Glenn, This seemed to me to be a very fair
statement. It seems that you are back to your old tricks. I cant hear
you when you are screaming..Izzy
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Laura; sorryno!
That was just the tail end of a previous post that tagged along. J Izzy
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Glenn, I wish you wouldnt
be so bashful about how you really feel! J Izzy
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David, I found this thru the Profusion search engine (under Council of
Laodicea):
http://reluctant-messenger.com/council-of-laodicea.htm
Izzy
What you don't seem to appreciate here is that meeting on Sunday and
changing the Sabbath to Sunday are two completely different things. If
the
Roman
So, Laura, which of the
four views mentioned do you hold? Izzy
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David,
Regardless, I think we have established that:
(1)It was common for Christians to honor the Sabbath well past the New
Testament; and
(2) That the CC (or some official church) began early on to persecute
those who did so. And since the CC had the ugly habit of burning people
who didn't
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Some people are in no church because they are difficult to
get along with.
There
are people who need their butt kicked out of the church
Glenn,
I
hope your little
Obviously
this must mean that Glenn is from now on going to behave in a gentle, kind, and
patient manner! Izzy
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Glenn, One should not base their beliefs
on anyones commentaries; which are as biased as the writers. Izzy
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that Marlin is a 7th Day Adventist? Izzy
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Thanks Marlin. Ive noticed that
TruthTalk is back to its Mormon discussionsyawn. It was a lot
more fun when we were mixing it up. Linda
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Laura,
I did not mean to imply that you
are confusedjust making a point about the voices we choose to listen to.
I had never heard anyone teach about the pros and cons of Sabbath vs
Sunday worship. That is why it is strange that I just began to keep the
Sabbath. I just heard the Holy
Glenn,
I agree with you completely that the NT
goes far beyond obeying the OT. But how do you go beyond (as in more fully) obeying the OT,
without obeying the OT?
I also agree that most Christians believe
in obedience. They just dont obey. Most are complete hypocrites
who choose
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Mu point exactly Marlin has made me feel like my view
point is leading me to hell.
Laura,
I will let Marlin speak for himself about
that. Perhaps he just thinks
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Glenn - I do not obey a
single thing in the Old Testament if it is not repeated in the New
Testament. Nada. Zilch. As I am pointed out, the Old Testament
Sabbath commandment is
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Salvation is not
obtained by obedience. Salvation is by grace through faith. Salvation
IS NOT OF WORKS. Eph. 2:8-9. Obedience to the OT Sabbath has
NOTHING to do with going to
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I
believe in obedience as much as you, but I also believe my Christian life goes
far beyond just obedience. It's a matter of the heart.
The difference between
you and me
Halleluia! (I really
think we agree on many things!!!) Izzy
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The Israelites didn't work 5 days a week at an outside job. My
point is that apparently you are free on M-F to do the things that many
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Trust me My family does take care of me - both my phsical and
my church families I am just fine and have a nice home. You are very blessed!
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