RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-28 Thread Kevin Deegan
WRONG Guy Blaine Read the Bible! http://www.biblelight.net/hebrew-canon.htm "... from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias"... . What could Jesus be referring to? Well, Abel was murdered in the book of Genesis, the first book of the Bible. And Zacharias? What book is his murder

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Then according to this, Kay, John's (the Baptist) father, righteous Zacharias, was a false prophet--so were many others. Matthew 23:34-35: Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets,and wise men, and scribes, and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them ye scourge in your

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-14 Thread Slade Henson
Ummm...I think you have two different Zach's here, Blaine. Kay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 14 January, 2005 10.25 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 8:17 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement Prophets who speak lies are very apt to pull people away

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-13 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: ... the Lord told me that I was functioning as a prophet ... SLADE wrote: How clear was this message? Was it riddled with parables? Was the message clear, concise, and very much to the point? The message was very clear, but perhaps not the absolute clearest revelation

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-13 Thread Slade Henson
14.29 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-13 Thread Terry Clifton
Slade Henson wrote: I just skimmed most of this. But I'm not understanding why God would allegedly tell you something contrary to His Wordsuch as this age of this and that. Sounds like dispensationalism to mewhich is clearly NOT Scriptural. I'm not going to debate over this, but I

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-13 Thread Slade Henson
Some have it more than others. I can smell a rat from several states away, too. :) Kay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Thursday, 13 January, 2005 18.15 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-12 Thread Slade Henson
I think Scripture says the false prophet is to be killed Kay -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of ShieldsFamilySent: Tuesday, 11 January, 2005 22.59To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 7:06 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement I think Scripture says the false prophet is to be killed Kay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-12 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/12/2005 5:08:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think Scripture says the false prophet is to be killed Kay :-)

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-12 Thread David Miller
SLADE wrote: How do you KNOW you are a prophet? When I first began receiving revelation (dreams and visions), the Lord told me that I was functioning as a prophet but that I should not advertise that I was functioning in this way. He instructed me to tell others that inquired who I was that

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-12 Thread Slade Henson
e fact. It's not out of the question for proof of his prophesy. If anything, it's honorable to ask for proof. It's dishonorable to hide behind misappropriated Scripture. -- slade -Original Message-From: ShieldsFamilySent: Tuesday, 11 January, 2005 22.59Subject: RE: [TruthTa

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-12 Thread Slade Henson
-Original Message-From: David MillerSent: Wednesday, 12 January, 2005 18.45Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic MovementDAVIDM...When I first began receiving revelation (dreams and visions), the Lord told me that I was functioning as a prophet but that I should

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-11 Thread Slade Henson
-Original Message- From: David Miller Sent: Monday, 10 January, 2005 11.26 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement DAVIDM... Well, I am not one of those kinds who says, I AM A PROPHET. As I said before, I tend to be one who runs from the call when it comes (like

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
SLADE'S NEWEST RESPONSE... Your last response about the sign of Jonah is the same argument made by the ridiculous false prophet Daniel John Lee (may God not forget his iniquity). Slade, Im curiouswhy did you say that? Arent we supposed to walk in forgiveness, etc, etc? Just

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-10 Thread David Miller
Slade wrote: Here's where the problem arises. I know many who claim the prophetic gift, but never proclaim anything. I hear the declaration I AM A PROPHET as if they deserve my reverence, yet they never speak a word from the LORD. Well, I am not one of those kinds who says, I AM A PROPHET.

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-10 Thread David Miller
Slade wrote: ... there is a grace I can give since you are not a prophet ... You see, we all have Yeshua dwelling within us, and Yeshua IS the spirit of prophesy. This is so true. Prophets are not meant to be held on some ideological pedestal. They serve as examples of one aspect of

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-10 Thread David Miller
Slade wrote: Saying the Messianic Movement is of God makes no sense within the context of this message. This comment tells me that you have misunderstood my post, because without this context, what I wrote could be easily twisted. This thread began weeks ago. Following is what I wrote on

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-09 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/8/2005 7:34:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The dangerous aspects are those within the movement who emphasize shadows over reality. News flash Truth is "dangerous." The above comments, once again, have nothing to do with the actual debate

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-09 Thread Slade Henson
Unfortunately DavidM decided this was a major reason that the Messianic Movement is dangerous. I am merely quoting DavidM in this manner. Please know that in my last email, the courier font was DavidM. -- slade -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-07 Thread Slade Henson
-Original Message- From: David Miller Sent: Wednesday, 05 January, 2005 10.00 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement *slade snipped a bunch to talk about later* DAVID M I believe that a prophet who speaks in the name of the Lord must be error free

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-07 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/7/2005 2:54:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Those are the JERKS that need to be stoned, wiped from the message boards, and surgically altered to never speak or write again. LOL -- I gotta admit. John "surgically altered" LOL

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-07 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/7/2005 5:10:17 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: LOL -- I gotta admit. John "surgically altered" LOL I'm still laughing maybe a red beer or two before you write that second paragraph. I did ask David what would be an acceptable test for

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-07 Thread Slade Henson
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Wednesday, 05 January, 2005 10.00 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement DAVIDM There are many different types of prophets, both

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-05 Thread Slade Henson
My wife thinks I was cruel in this post. Let me qualify... What a terrible thing to say This means, "What!?" I am shocked that you would make such a claim! Do you believe everyone who doesn't share your beliefs are dangerous... or is it just the JEWS?? In this post, you have proven

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-05 Thread David Miller
Slade wrote: This means, What!? I am shocked that you would make such a claim! Do you believe everyone who doesn't share your beliefs are dangerous... or is it just the JEWS?? I think you very much have misunderstood my post. I testified that the Messianic movement is of God, but qualified

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-05 Thread Slade Henson
January, 2005 17.26 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement Kay, If I remember correctly, they didn't call themselves Messianic. I can't remamber what they did call themselves though. On the other hand, I don't care either! I'm just glad I only

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-05 Thread Jeff Powers
] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 10:08 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement No, they didn't call themselves Messianic. I was mistaken in my earlier post of thinking they may have. I know now what they called themselves...did a little

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Slade Henson
: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement Kay wrote: I'm also waiting for your answer as to what aspects of the Messianic Movement you feel may be dangerous are, David. The dangerous aspects are those within the movement who emphasize shadows over reality. For example, those who think

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Lance Muir
It is becoming clear that 'othodox trinitarians' are a minority on TT. Kay: Do Slade and Jeff believe as you on this? - Original Message - From: Slade Henson To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 03, 2005 19:32 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Judy Taylor
--- Original Message - From: Slade Henson To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 03, 2005 19:32 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement God is one, Scripture says so. God has many different aspects or manifestations

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Lance Muir
Jeff believe as you on this? - Original Message - From: Slade Henson To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 03, 2005 19:32 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement God is one, Scripture says so. God has ma

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Slade Henson
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Tuesday, 04 January, 2005 05.36To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement It is becoming clear that 'othodox trinitarians' are a minority on TT. Kay: Do Slade and Jeff beli

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Lance Muir
om: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Tuesday, 04 January, 2005 05.36To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement It is becoming clear that 'othodox trinitarians' are a minority on T

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Slade Henson
] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement I do believe that G_d is more 'open structured' (read theologically flexible) than most of His disciples.

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Slade Henson
Hehehehe K. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, 04 January, 2005 00.58To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic MovementIn a message dated 1/3/2005

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Judy Taylor
Tell that to the man who was out there picking up sticks on the Sabbath. On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 06:40:45 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I do believe that G_d is more 'open structured' (read theologically flexible) than most of His disciples. From: Slade Henson To:

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Lance Muir
No Judy, you tell 'em. Remember, he's got a stick in his hand. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 04, 2005 07:06 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Slade Henson
: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement Tell that to the man who was out there picking up sticks on the Sabbath. On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 06:40:45 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Slade Henson
: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement Tell that to the man who was out there picking up sticks on the Sabbath. On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 06:40:45 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I do believe that G_d is more 'open structured'

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Judy Taylor
Tue, 4 Jan 2005 07:11:58 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No Judy, you tell 'em. Remember, he's got a stick in his hand. From: Judy Taylor Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement Tell that to the man who was out there pi

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Slade Henson
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Judy TaylorSent: Tuesday, 04 January, 2005 07.25To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement What if I

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Judy Taylor
Surely he wasn't that "nutty" - I see him as someone who was lacked the fear of God [like Korah] and followed after his fleshwhich the Law was there to curb. It's human nature to want to be on top of the game or two steps ahead of everyone else so this fellow was pushing the envelope and

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Lance Muir
07:25 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement What if I don't believe that God is "open structured and theologically flexible?" even though He is unwilling for any to perish and even if His mercy does endure forever... He don't play - He sa

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Judy Taylor
I hear you Kay and I do seek to obey the Royal Law through Christ. I know you and Slade see things differently right now. I don't know your testimony but can empathize if you have experiencedcultish groups because I've been through that and have observed some of the same. Realunder

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Slade Henson
PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Judy TaylorSent: Tuesday, 04 January, 2005 07.33To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement Surely he wasn't that "nutty" - I see him as someone who was lacked the f

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Judy Taylor
with His Words. On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 07:11:58 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No Judy, you tell 'em. Remember, he's got a stick in his hand. From: Judy Taylor Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Slade Henson
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement I hear you Kay and I do seek to obey the Royal Law through Christ. I know you and Slade see things differently right now. I don't know your testimony but can empath

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Judy Taylor
Good food for thought Kay - I know there is nothing we can do about when babies decide to make an appearance but don't you think that if dad knows the birth is any day now that he could prepare? God doesn't require of us more than we can give and there was another aspect to the Sabbath for

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Slade Henson
lory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement Good food for thought Kay - I know there is nothing we can do about when babies decide to make an appearance but don't you think that if dad knows the birth is any day now that he cou

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/4/2005 4:28:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What if I don't believe that God is "open structured and theologically flexible?" even though He is unwilling for any to perish and even if His mercy does endure forever... He don't play - He says what He

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Judy Taylor
I understand about having babies and don't know if God would consider that breaking the Sabbath (though we might). However, I don't see preparing to rest one day a weektoo much to ask. Jesus did say that the Sabbath was made for man and I've heard that expounded on quite often - how we need

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Slade Henson
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement I understand about having babies and don't know if God would consider that breaking the Sabbath (though we might). However, I don't see preparing to rest one day a weektoo much to ask. Jes

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Lance Muir
@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 04, 2005 07:49 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement Teachable and unreachable must be one and the same in your economy Lance because you reject everything but trinitarian orthodoxy and give no scriptural reason why. Jesustold us

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Lance Muir
Are you putting yourself forward as a candidate, Judy? - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 04, 2005 08:15 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement I agree with that. I know of some who say...can't dance, can't drink, can't smoke, can't go to the movies...or you go to hell! And others who say...you better call Him by the RIGHT name...or you go to hell. I think some

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
Taylor Sent: Tuesday, 04 January, 2005 07.07 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement Tell that to the man who was out there picking up sticks on the Sabbath. On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 06:40:45 -0500

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Slade Henson
@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement How about the guy who got struck down for reaching out to steady the ark of the covenant? Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade HensonSent: Tuesday

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Slade Henson
: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement Keep in mind that just because something is not a salvation issue does not mean it is unimportant. Everything we allow into our lives is important, as it makes us who we are. The prudent walk

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
but don't you think that if dad knows the birth is any day now that he could prepare? Judy, that statement cracks me up as I remember in October my DIL (a week overdue) having labor pains as my son removes the back door and paints the frame and saying, Dont you think we should wait

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 9:07 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement I don't know. I guess it sucked to be him. How about Aaron's sons who brought strange fire before the Lord? Kay

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
There are a whole lot more CANS. (Ask Builder Bob) Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 9:10 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement So

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread David Miller
Kay wrote: I experienced one cultish group within the past couple of years. Was it a Messianic cult? What made it cult-like? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man.

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread David Miller
Slade wrote: What a terrible thing to say. In this post, you have proven the falseness of your prophetic claim. Why? I hope you don't think prophets are perfect in knowledge. I hope you don't think prophets are perfect communicators. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Slade Henson
@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement Kay wrote: I experienced one cultish group within the past couple of years. Was it a Messianic cult? What made it cult-like? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Slade Henson
January, 2005 12.14 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement Kay wrote: I experienced one cultish group within the past couple of years. Was it a Messianic cult? What made it cult-like? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread David Miller
Kay wrote: I would say they claimed to be Messianic. However, I would not consider them Messianic. This sounds like the kind of example I was trying to describe for you before. When I say Messianic or Messianic Movement, I am talking about those who associate themselves with that label. In

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Slade Henson
Day believers have Messianic Beliefs in their system, too. K. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Tuesday, 04 January, 2005 12.44 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Terry Clifton
ShieldsFamily wrote: Keep in mind that just because something is not a salvation issue does not mean it is unimportant. Everything we allow into our lives is important, as it makes us who we are. The prudent walk on the side of caution, realizing we have a sneaky and powerful

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread David Miller
Kay wrote: just did a little research and found both of them were Catholics. Do you mean Roman Catholics? Careful. While Roman Catholics might want to claim a pedigree to the first apostles and therefore claim these men (Tertullian and Athanasius) as being fathers in Roman Catholicism, the

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Lance Muir
Was he jumpin' G's brother? - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 04, 2005 14:14 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement Kay wrote: just did a little research and found both of them were

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Jeff Powers
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Slade Henson Sent: Tuesday, 04 January, 2005 12.21 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement I would say they claimed to be Messianic. However, I would not consider them Messianic. They are like

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Slade Henson
@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement Kay, If I remember correctly, they didn't call themselves Messianic. I can't remamber what they did call themselves though. On the other hand, I don't care either! I'm just glad I only spent a week with the wackos

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-04 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/4/2005 2:41:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey JD: I might need some counseling...or another beer! Go with the beer. Here for ya, John

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-03 Thread David Miller
Kay wrote: I'm also waiting for your answer as to what aspects of the Messianic Movement you feel may be dangerous are, David. The dangerous aspects are those within the movement who emphasize shadows over reality. For example, those who think that keeping Torah commandments that deal with

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-03 Thread Slade Henson
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Monday, 03 January, 2005 15.35 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement Kay wrote: I'm also waiting for your answer as to what aspects of the Messianic

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-03 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/3/2005 12:37:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The dangerous aspects are those within the movement who emphasize shadows over reality. For example, those who think that keeping Torah commandments that deal with shadows is the only way to be pleasing to

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-03 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/3/2005 1:26:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Denouncing trinity? I didn't know there was such a Biblical term in the first place. I think David has a problem here. If you are not denying God in Trinity by refusing to consider Christ as the Eternal

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-03 Thread Slade Henson
The Bentile Legalist? What's that mean? Bent people? Kay :) -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, 03 January, 2005 18.18To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-03 Thread Slade Henson
God is one, Scripture says so. God has many different aspects or manifestations I still haven't found any reference to trinity in Scripture. What I truly think is that some dude tried to make God more understandable to our very limited minds and taught us about the three in one. Makes

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-03 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/3/2005 4:21:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Bentile Legalist? What's that mean? Bent people? Kay :) Dang me !! Let's try Gentile Legalist. I really need to proof read more carefully. but I get excited, start typing, and BAM I have

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-03 Thread Knpraise
Kay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 03 January, 2005 18.22 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement In a message dated 1/3/2005 1:26:04 PM Pacific

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-03 Thread Slade Henson
I thought you were purposely being funny... K. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, 03 January, 2005 20.00To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-03 Thread Slade Henson
I think there's a Scripture that says not to mix beer and tea...or maybe that's tradition! :) Kay -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, 03 January, 2005 20.08To:

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-03 Thread Judy Taylor
In a message dated 1/3/2005 4:35:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:God is one, Scripture says so. God has many different aspects or manifestations I still haven't found any reference to trinity in Scripture. What I truly think is that some dude tried to make God

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-03 Thread Slade Henson
, Judy. Made me more solid in my beliefs. Kay -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Judy TaylorSent: Monday, 03 January, 2005 20.21To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-03 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/3/2005 4:21:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Bentile Legalist? What's that mean? Bent people? Kay :) Dang me !! Let's try Gentile Legalist. I really need to proof read more carefully. but

RE: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 7:00 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement In a message dated 1/3/2005 4:21:33 PM Pacific Standard

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-03 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/3/2005 5:16:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think there's a Scripture that says not to mix beer and tea...or maybe that's tradition! :) Kay You are correct, my dear. It is found in 2 Thought 10:4 next to the passage that allows for tomato juice

Re: [TruthTalk] Judaizers within the Messianic Movement

2005-01-03 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/3/2005 6:53:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dang me !! Let's try Gentile Legalist. I really need to proof read more carefully. but I get excited, start typing, and BAM I have fathered another misspelling. John Without a mother???